Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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So after the terrible run on Tues. that I was unable to finish, I've lost a bit of the bloat and have another run scheduled for tonight. All the signs for that spontaneous 10 lb. weight gain indicate that it was related to glycogen gain and water weight along with it. I did not eat so many carbs as to explain that, but there was some bratwurst that didn't exactly say how many carbs were in it. It did have ingredients listed, which included corn chips/tortillas and oatmeal (these were chili cheese bratwurst). I won't ever eat those again.
Anyway, I really could feel better once the last of the water bloat is gone... but I will still have an extra ~15 lbs. of fat to lose. Once again, I'm trying to balance and decide whether to focus on weight loss or focus on training. I've not been successful doing both simultaneously. Originally, I was going to wait on losing fat until after racing season is over (Dec.), but I fear I'm going to be too slow this year as a result of being too fat. Simultaneously, I know there is too little time to lose as much as I need to lose before races I'm signed up for already. Ugh.... maybe doing IF on non-running days is an option.2 -
@midwesterner85 Can you train and do a slight cut in calories? Like 150-250 per day? That's my current plan is a 250 calorie cut and making sure I get in 2-3 days of strength training on top of running.
I won't be able to get to the weight I want before my marathon training starts but I am hoping to be down some and hopefully balance training and weight loss (or maintain).2 -
@midwesterner85 I agree with @RunsOnEspresso Maybe find a happy medium in your calories. I've seen some heavier folks kill the HM, so I'd suspect that if you concentrate on training and getting stronger, it'll help you lose come the off season, and you'll have made progress towards the running goals.
And something about weight lifting (gain muscle mode) definitely triggers the body to lose fat.
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@RunsOnEspresso and @Elise4270 I've got my calories set for a small deficit, but often go way over my calories. something I've noticed is that I often just have coffee for breakfast. That works well for awhile, as it suppresses appetite. But then by dinner, I'm super hangry and eat 2 days worth of calories in a single meal. This is 1 of the reasons why I'm trying to give up coffee.
As to weight lifting, I had been doing that 3 days / week, but haven't yet this week at all because of the bloat and fatigue. It is going to rain tonight, so maybe I'll just get my run in on the treadmill and then lift weights afterwards.1 -
Food food food!
Do today's meals support your goal?
I'm not hungry again. But ate breakfast. Lunch? Salad, if I eat.
I'm still fighting this hip tightness. Really wanted to try to run my minute 15x today. We'll see.
Din din? No clue.
I'm living dangerously with no food plans. Oh, I have avocados. I could eat that.0 -
Food food food!
Do today's meals support your goal?
I've got a 2 day low sodium challenge so today's meals are all fairly low in sodium. Which should address some of this water retention I've got going on too.
Trying to eat lower calorie today so I can enjoy birthday cake tomorrow.
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Good morning folks.
Do today's meals support my goal: Probably not
Love the talk going on here. Glad I am not the only one struggling. I am not in a training cycle right now, more of a base recalibrating..but it is just as tough to lose weight it seems. I have a small deficit right now on LoseIt but I am still starving. The addition of a whey protein just before bed is really helping though. I follow Meb on Twitter and now that he is retired, he talks about how many treats even he had to skip when he was training that he can have now
Yesterday I was a bit over on my goals but I got ton of protein in. I was still hungry though a lot. I guess that was ok though b/c it was my rest day.
Today is going to be tricky. I didn't sleep well again last night and snoozed through my morning run, so I need to make that up tonight. This morning all I wanted in the world was salt. I had a to-go container of fried rice from the weekend that I needed to eat. I was planning on having half, but damn it was good LOL. My tongue feels like a salted slug right now. I am going to lunch with friends to a Mexican food truck who is famous for their 12 inch deep fried flautas...O.M.G. I am hoping I can get a taco instead...but dang those flautas are good. Maybe hubby can shift his dinner plans tomorrow so I can just skip it.
Scale didn't move today but pants fit ok.1 -
@midwesterner85 Have you tried having some protein in the mornings? I know timing is such a personal thing. For me, I have to have a decent amount of protein for breakfast (and less carbs) or I will be starving in an hour.
If I skip breakfast I get shaky and faint feeling but I know others who can't eat breakfast. So crazy how different we all are about meals/food.0 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »@midwesterner85 Have you tried having some protein in the mornings? I know timing is such a personal thing. For me, I have to have a decent amount of protein for breakfast (and less carbs) or I will be starving in an hour.
If I skip breakfast I get shaky and faint feeling but I know others who can't eat breakfast. So crazy how different we all are about meals/food.
I'm not really a morning person, so I wake up just in the nick of time to shower, dress, and get to work. There is no time for food... but I do spend <1 min. pouring coffee to take with me (machine is on timer, so no other work in the morning).0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »@midwesterner85 Have you tried having some protein in the mornings? I know timing is such a personal thing. For me, I have to have a decent amount of protein for breakfast (and less carbs) or I will be starving in an hour.
If I skip breakfast I get shaky and faint feeling but I know others who can't eat breakfast. So crazy how different we all are about meals/food.
I'm not really a morning person, so I wake up just in the nick of time to shower, dress, and get to work. There is no time for food... but I do spend <1 min. pouring coffee to take with me (machine is on timer, so no other work in the morning).
I make mine at work. Lol0 -
Sometimes I need coffee in order to be able to make coffee. My husband often makes the first cup for me...2
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@midwesterner85 I'm not a breakfast eater either. I will however, make a stop at Starbucks if I get out the door early for those low carb (ish, 9g) egg bites. Not hungry- just yummy indulgence.
I also keep a protein shake or two in my running bag in case I get stuck at work and miss lunch or have a doc appointment (orthodontist usually) that cuts in to lunch time or any other reason I can't grab lunch. Sometimes, I have it about 10am when I've gotten my day lined out and have time to sit for a break. They are low carb, just 1g, 30 g protein. Maybe an early protein snack would help take the edge off?0 -
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I have lost the battle today. My rational? I shouldn't be this hungry 2 days before a race. Well it sounded good in my head anyway, and I didn't mention to myself it was only a 5k. I doubt I was really that hungry anyway LOL.
But lunch was the giant pork carnita flauta. I tried to piece the ingredients together for calories...i think I got most of it except I don't know how much "oil" to add for the deep fried part...I said 2 tbs (250 cals) extra. All in all I guess 950 cals. Mmmmm so good and I am not hungry anymore...well after I also had a snickers. I hope I don't need dinner tonight. If I do, it will be a protein shake as I am also over on calories by nearly 400.
A run tonight sounds horrible too, my bad nights sleep is creeping up on me with the help of the fat and sugar bomb I ate. Maybe I will move it to tomorrow morning.0 -
@CMorning99 When I am trying to talk myself out of running I go and put my running clothes on anyway. I've almost never regretted a run
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So... when I am on plan... yes, coffee in the morning... never hungry first thing in the morning, but end up starving by like 9-9:30 ish... so started doing protein shake about then... when I’m off plan it’s that plus all the stuff I want if I don’t have the protein shake.0
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RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
I have a Keurig and a French Press. I have been known to forget to put a mug under the Keurig. More than once.1 -
I am so sad guys! I love quinoa but my body has decided I can no longer have it.
It started with just the Kirkland quinoa but today I went to a gluten-free place and had a bowl with quinoa and about an hour later same issue. 3 -
@RunsOnEspresso That sucks. That is how my body feels about bananas now. I can only eat them if they are cooked or really ripe, and I definitely can't eat them on their own.0
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@sarahthes oh man! That stinks too, especially since bananas are so prevalent at races and stuff.0
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@shanaber Was it you that mentioned a protein powder earlier in the thread?I am trying to use up the one I have and try a different brand. I remember the one talked about sounded like one I could try but I didn't write down the brand!0
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Hubby is our coffee-maker-in-charge and he pretty much knows it needs to be ready ASAP or else I'm not responsible for what happens. Just regular brewed coffee most of the time. I'd love a Nespresso machine, but I have such a hard time with using pods.
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These are the pods I buy. Very little plastic, and it is one of the ones that supposedly breaks down quickly in the environment. Even the bags they come in are compostable.
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »Hubby is our coffee-maker-in-charge and he pretty much knows it needs to be ready ASAP or else I'm not responsible for what happens. Just regular brewed coffee most of the time. I'd love a Nespresso machine, but I have such a hard time with using pods.
My dad has a reusable one for his kuerig. He uses regular ground coffee in it. I thought I wanted a keurig until I realized how one carafe isn't quite enough for me. LOL2 -
@CMorning99 When I am trying to talk myself out of running I go and put my running clothes on anyway. I've almost never regretted a run.
This definitely works for me. It so wierd. If you can just treat those no productive thoughts like they are a child:
"okay I know you don't wanna run, and that's ok. But let's put our shoes on". Shoes go on. "See that wasn't so hard". "Wanna go get ice cream" ""oh we're at the park for a run before ice cream" "oh now you don't want ice cream because you had a good time at the park today?" It craziness. I swear I have an exceptionally high level of self parenting that goes on. I'd be a shrinks dream (if they ever find me). Hahahaha!
DS and I also would do "no excuses" month. The little voice was ignored and you had to go to the gym 3 days a week.
Am I the only nut?3 -
Good morning all.
Well, yesterday didn't turn out as bad as I thought it was. I wasn't hungry for dinner and just had a few bites. I did go out for my run, did no expectations and walked part of it, stopped to stretch. Did what felt good.
Today is another rest day. I need to reorganize my runs to spread out the rest days a bit more. I bought a breakfast burrito from a fundraiser outside the office. I was told it was veggie...it was egg and mushrooms...tons of massive slimy mushrooms...I threw it away. Now what...maybe donuts will show up. If they do, I will have a protein shake for lunch...if not, I will order something.
Tomorrow is the 5K. I have been looking at my paces and it seems if I want to get faster quicker, I need to work up to nearly double my weekly mileage. I knew that...was in denial. Coach said I am running like a recreational runner right now...I think that is coach speak for lazy LOL. So once I have my paces from tomorrow...we will be increasing the weekly mileage. I am not sure how much I can handle with my morning run time limit.
I hope everyone has a great weekend. I just hope to keep the food in check!...and run fast 0 -
I have to have coffee too 1st thing in the morning. We bought a Breville with a built in grinder. It is the best coffee maker we have had in a while. I set it all up the night before and my husband just hits the button in the morning when he gets up.
I was never a breakfast eater and would often not eat anything until lunchtime but when I started this whole adventure and working with a trainer the 1st thing he had me do was eat something (100 cals minimum) as soon as I got up and then every 3 hours. (@sarahthes - I take synthroid too and switched to taking it in the evenings. My doctor said it was better to take it before bed anyway so it worked out for me) I started having just 1/2 a protein bar, it was all I could manage. Now I typically have my entire protein bar early and then toast with PB before I run. If it isn't too late after my run I may get in a small breakfast or not and just eat lunch. I always have a snack mid-afternoon (if I am strength training I will have something on the way like celery or apple and PB or a couple of tangerines and something with protein on the way home, cheese or protein bar) and then dinner and nothing after that.
@RunsOnEspresso - that sucks about the quinoa! I love quinoa for everything - salads, breakfast, etc... in fact this reminds me I need to make some! Also yes I was the one who mentioned the protein powder. It is called Tera's Whey and you might be able to find it at Target if you just want to try it in a smaller package. I did that then bout 2 bigger bags of it from Costco (Vanilla and Dark Chocolate). I really like it and it blends well into everything - I have even been putting it in my coffee Here's the link - https://simplyteras.com/our-products/ The ones I got are the Organic versions and they are also gluten free.
Does anyone have a good recipe for baked chicken - I am looking for something different to do with it - getting kind of bored with our standards...
I posted this in the monthly running challenge but since @CMorning99 isn't over there (you should join us there too for running motivation!) I will repost it here...
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@shanaber I like to bake chicken in salsa (about 35-40 ish minutes at 350) then top with cheese and bake or broil for 5ish minutes. I would make rice or quinoa and then top it with the chicken and then grab a bag of frozen veggies for a side. I can be a very lazy chef.
Thanks! I am going to write the name of that down this time so I don't forget. The dark chocolate sounds delicious (and I'm finishing a vanilla right now).1 -
Today was not a good food day calorically except the food was delicious. And that's all I'm gonna say about that, other than Swiss chocolate Reese peanut butter cup ice cream cake. I regret nothing.2
