Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @shanaber I'm not getting a new car. I like mine. I have the heated seats and steering wheel. But none of the other features. 😪 My comfort zone is less than 25k, used, pre-owned certified kinda stuff. I'm just whining about it. If i cried to dh about just having to have this 45k car, he'd do it. Haha! So, meh, i dont like it. I dont want it. Its ugly. Smells wierd, too fancy. ....amd it take 10 seconds for someone to ding it. That sound convincing? Haha! I can wait a few more years for all the standard pampered options.

    But he is pulling the trigger on the Hawaii trip/run for Dennis in January. (I hate traveling though).
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    what is it about hot food that is so satisfying?

    nope, cold yogurt, cheese and fruit just don't ever hit the spot. I am now forced to put on some veggies in the IP because I just have to have some hot food.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.

    I think everyone is different in their carb tolerances. 10-12g carbs/day is pretty low, especially if exercise is involved. I'd have to wonder how your salt intake is and if that's more of an issue or meds even.

    No matter how low my carbs are, hormones can still pack on the water weight, especially if you have chronic inflammation and or pain. Seems just impossible to lose with a chronic injury. I think it causes the cortisol and other hormones to go wonky.

    If I'm running 4-5 days a week, ~15-20 mpw. I can hit 100g/day and still test positive for ketones in my urine. Are you getting any exercise? Swimming maybe?

    My personal suggestions? If your not already, Eat real food for your carbs. Eliminate any/all refined products. Add all the veggies you can stand. Maybe have a dexa scan to gauge your body composition, so you can pin point what works, what doesn't.

    Be patient. Take care of that back. Use the recovery time to dial in your diet. Accept that you may gain some weight, but it shouldn't be hard to lose once you can add more activity and are pain free.

    Good luck!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @travelling_lots - ^^^ what @elise4270 said. Everyone is different but I don't get the water bloat if I am eating natural carbs like sweet potatoes, veggies, fruit, even quinoa or brown rice. But add in too much bread or other refined carbs and there it goes. Also could you do a recombinant bike at the gym or swimming or some other cardio that won't hurt your back? I wouldn't expect during your recovery period that you would be able to lose weight but if you can get in a little workout it may help to keep you from gaining anything especially if you dial in your diet like Elise mentioned.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @travelling_lots With carbs that low you are going to retain some whenever you increase carbs due to the increased glycogen storage. For fat loss you need a calorie deficit regardless of how many carbs you are eating.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    So how is everyone doing this week? I raised my calorie goal to 1500 plus exercise a few weeks ago and now that my race is done I've been under but within 100 net calories of goal every day this week. Super stressed but I've been channeling it into other stuff.

    I signed up for a full marathon for next summer and I guess I'm still in the honeymoon excitement stage since I know I need to lose weight to be successful. Hopefully I can keep this drive going!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    So how is everyone doing this week? I raised my calorie goal to 1500 plus exercise a few weeks ago and now that my race is done I've been under but within 100 net calories of goal every day this week. Super stressed but I've been channeling it into other stuff.

    I signed up for a full marathon for next summer and I guess I'm still in the honeymoon excitement stage since I know I need to lose weight to be successful. Hopefully I can keep this drive going!

    Girl. You. Are. A. Beast. 😍

    I think I'm one of those runners that cant get out of my head long enough to run a few miles without feeling like every run is a failure. It is hot still. I am rebuilding, but i cant seem to get out of my head.

    I'd love to be able to target a marathon, but not in the summer 🔥. Maybe next fall? My mind also needs training.

    I cooked acorn squash with red onion and baby portabello mushrooms, olive oil and salt. Mmm. Not bad at all!
    Dh went to Sam's (no Costco) and got roast, and kombucha. I need to fix one tomorrow i guess, probably with taters and onion. Ooh i still have that red cabbage. For German red cabbage. Maybe i can get dh to fry some taters and onion. Not sure what happened to my green apples... Dd cleaned the kitchen and threw out everything... Glad she cleaned. But dang i hate shopping and throwing away food.

  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.

    I think everyone is different in their carb tolerances. 10-12g carbs/day is pretty low, especially if exercise is involved. I'd have to wonder how your salt intake is and if that's more of an issue or meds even.

    No matter how low my carbs are, hormones can still pack on the water weight, especially if you have chronic inflammation and or pain. Seems just impossible to lose with a chronic injury. I think it causes the cortisol and other hormones to go wonky.

    If I'm running 4-5 days a week, ~15-20 mpw. I can hit 100g/day and still test positive for ketones in my urine. Are you getting any exercise? Swimming maybe?

    My personal suggestions? If your not already, Eat real food for your carbs. Eliminate any/all refined products. Add all the veggies you can stand. Maybe have a dexa scan to gauge your body composition, so you can pin point what works, what doesn't.

    Be patient. Take care of that back. Use the recovery time to dial in your diet. Accept that you may gain some weight, but it shouldn't be hard to lose once you can add more activity and are pain free.

    Good luck!

    ---
    Well I have sedentary job, and now I'm starting to walk between 5-8 km daily. I'm at 1450 cal a day. I did buy keton strips. Anything under 15 g do carbs I'm good. Or else nil. I'll keep checking now that I'm walking daily.

    I haven't eaten sugar for over a year. That's nit stevia. No breads, pasta or starchy veg either.im gluten free. Have limited to strawberries and any time type of berries for fruit. I'm careful with nuts.

    Salt only when I have my salads. I'll keep an eye and see how much I'm really having since I love to munch on feta cheese at night too.

    Meds. Yes that could be an issue. Checked with pharmacy and said 10% weight gain as minimum.

    Hormones? well, it's the stress from gaining all this weight. Catch 22 I guess.

    Thanks for replying. Made me evaluate things a bit more.


  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the feed back. A lot of good things to check and address
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    @travelling_lots Are you already fat adapted? If not, this 3 months with reduced exercise is a good time to do that without so much impact to training performance. Since it takes 2-3 months for the changes to happen, I would say this lines up perfectly. I would suggest, though, that you need more electrolytes if you are eating low carb or keto. Don't limit the salt, potassium, or magnesium.
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    edited August 2018
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.

    I think everyone is different in their carb tolerances. 10-12g carbs/day is pretty low, especially if exercise is involved. I'd have to wonder how your salt intake is and if that's more of an issue or meds even.

    No matter how low my carbs are, hormones can still pack on the water weight, especially if you have chronic inflammation and or pain. Seems just impossible to lose with a chronic injury. I think it causes the cortisol and other hormones to go wonky.

    If I'm running 4-5 days a week, ~15-20 mpw. I can hit 100g/day and still test positive for ketones in my urine. Are you getting any exercise? Swimming maybe?

    My personal suggestions? If your not already, Eat real food for your carbs. Eliminate any/all refined products. Add all the veggies you can stand. Maybe have a dexa scan to gauge your body composition, so you can pin point what works, what doesn't.

    Be patient. Take care of that back. Use the recovery time to dial in your diet. Accept that you may gain some weight, but it shouldn't be hard to lose once you can add more activity and are pain free.

    Good luck!

    ---
    Well I have sedentary job, and now I'm starting to walk between 5-8 km daily. I'm at 1450 cal a day. I did buy keton strips. Anything under 15 g do carbs I'm good. Or else nil. I'll keep checking now that I'm walking daily.

    I haven't eaten sugar for over a year. That's nit stevia. No breads, pasta or starchy veg either.im gluten free. Have limited to strawberries and any time type of berries for fruit. I'm careful with nuts.

    Salt only when I have my salads. I'll keep an eye and see how much I'm really having since I love to munch on feta cheese at night too.

    Meds. Yes that could be an issue. Checked with pharmacy and said 10% weight gain as minimum.

    Hormones? well, it's the stress from gaining all this weight. Catch 22 I guess.

    Thanks for replying. Made me evaluate things a bit more.


    Unless I misunderstood, I think that @Elise4270 is suggesting that your salt intake is too low, not too high. Salt gets maligned because it's so prevalent in the modern diet and certainly can contribute to health issues, but it is absolutely possible to go too far in the other direction and that can effect your health too, especially if you're exercising regularly. Unless your doctor has told you to watch your sodium levels, you really do not need to worry about eating too much salt, especially with a diet as strict as yours sounds.

    I know it's obnoxious advice, but to the extent you can, you may want to try and relax a little. You've seen the effect stress has on your body. Losing weight doesn't need to be super stressful or require a massively complex diet, and water weight fluctuations are a fact of life. Plus your body needs calories to heal! You can do this if you're patient and consistent. Good luck!
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.

    I think everyone is different in their carb tolerances. 10-12g carbs/day is pretty low, especially if exercise is involved. I'd have to wonder how your salt intake is and if that's more of an issue or meds even.

    No matter how low my carbs are, hormones can still pack on the water weight, especially if you have chronic inflammation and or pain. Seems just impossible to lose with a chronic injury. I think it causes the cortisol and other hormones to go wonky.

    If I'm running 4-5 days a week, ~15-20 mpw. I can hit 100g/day and still test positive for ketones in my urine. Are you getting any exercise? Swimming maybe?

    My personal suggestions? If your not already, Eat real food for your carbs. Eliminate any/all refined products. Add all the veggies you can stand. Maybe have a dexa scan to gauge your body composition, so you can pin point what works, what doesn't.

    Be patient. Take care of that back. Use the recovery time to dial in your diet. Accept that you may gain some weight, but it shouldn't be hard to lose once you can add more activity and are pain free.

    Good luck!

    ---
    Well I have sedentary job, and now I'm starting to walk between 5-8 km daily. I'm at 1450 cal a day. I did buy keton strips. Anything under 15 g do carbs I'm good. Or else nil. I'll keep checking now that I'm walking daily.

    I haven't eaten sugar for over a year. That's nit stevia. No breads, pasta or starchy veg either.im gluten free. Have limited to strawberries and any time type of berries for fruit. I'm careful with nuts.

    Salt only when I have my salads. I'll keep an eye and see how much I'm really having since I love to munch on feta cheese at night too.

    Meds. Yes that could be an issue. Checked with pharmacy and said 10% weight gain as minimum.

    Hormones? well, it's the stress from gaining all this weight. Catch 22 I guess.

    Thanks for replying. Made me evaluate things a bit more.


    Unless I misunderstood, I think that @Elise4270 is suggesting that your salt intake is too low, not too high. Salt gets maligned because it's so prevalent in the modern diet and certainly can contribute to health issues, but it is absolutely possible to go too far in the other direction and that can effect your health too, especially if you're exercising regularly. Unless your doctor has told you to watch your sodium levels, you really do not need to worry about eating too much salt, especially with a diet as strict as yours sounds.

    I know it's obnoxious advice, but to the extent you can, you may want to try and relax a little. You've seen the effect stress has on your body. Losing weight doesn't need to be super stressful or require a massively complex diet, and water weight fluctuations are a fact of life. Plus your body needs calories to heal! You can do this if you're patient and consistent. Good luck!

    Yes, active people need more salt. Also, low carbers need more salt.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited August 2018
    If you're sneaking in some carbs, salt is horrible with water weight.

    Eliminate the carbs and, OMG salt is a non-issue. I can eat the saltiest things now and not feel immediately dehydrated.

    DH ran 10 miles in the heat the other day, i kept nagging NUUN NUUN NUUN. He just dumped salt (potassium and sodium) in water and chugged it. Said it set him right immediatly. Hes not quite fat addapted. He still eats work crap. Er cupcakes. Haha! As i have 5, yes five Panera bread cookies in front me. Know how many ima eat?

    Anyway. My mention of salt, is just mearly that it could be a culprit. @traveling_lots. Were just brainstorming, hoping any thing we think of helps.

    ETA Because I'm traveling today. And dont think of everything at once haha. Have you thought about looking into those lipotropic supplements. I just started them and they seem to help with the fat metabolism. I think I've been able to up my calories without my weight going crazy I'm trying to figure out my calories. But it does seem to help. It might be something you want to look into I don't really know much about them.
    My problem is I start to have some room to add a few calories, and I go by 5 Panera Bread cookies. Haha! Back to driving
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Hi new here.
    I'm also concerned about my carb intake. I've been playing around with different percentages. And seems if I'm at 10-12g carbs I'm good but if I have more. Well the more carbs I eat the more water I retain. It's not funny I can gain upto 5 lbs of water in one day. If I cut down on the carbs water weight comes off. Been like a Yoyo with it. But no fat lose at all. Any suggestions ?
    Grew up running track, never cared about carbs. Recovering from back injury has made me really keep an eye on this. Physiotherapist says I'll be three months before I can run, I'll be happy with jogging. Signed up here to start looking at tips.

    I think everyone is different in their carb tolerances. 10-12g carbs/day is pretty low, especially if exercise is involved. I'd have to wonder how your salt intake is and if that's more of an issue or meds even.

    No matter how low my carbs are, hormones can still pack on the water weight, especially if you have chronic inflammation and or pain. Seems just impossible to lose with a chronic injury. I think it causes the cortisol and other hormones to go wonky.

    If I'm running 4-5 days a week, ~15-20 mpw. I can hit 100g/day and still test positive for ketones in my urine. Are you getting any exercise? Swimming maybe?

    My personal suggestions? If your not already, Eat real food for your carbs. Eliminate any/all refined products. Add all the veggies you can stand. Maybe have a dexa scan to gauge your body composition, so you can pin point what works, what doesn't.

    Be patient. Take care of that back. Use the recovery time to dial in your diet. Accept that you may gain some weight, but it shouldn't be hard to lose once you can add more activity and are pain free.

    Good luck!

    ---
    Well I have sedentary job, and now I'm starting to walk between 5-8 km daily. I'm at 1450 cal a day. I did buy keton strips. Anything under 15 g do carbs I'm good. Or else nil. I'll keep checking now that I'm walking daily.

    I haven't eaten sugar for over a year. That's nit stevia. No breads, pasta or starchy veg either.im gluten free. Have limited to strawberries and any time type of berries for fruit. I'm careful with nuts.

    Salt only when I have my salads. I'll keep an eye and see how much I'm really having since I love to munch on feta cheese at night too.

    Meds. Yes that could be an issue. Checked with pharmacy and said 10% weight gain as minimum.

    Hormones? well, it's the stress from gaining all this weight. Catch 22 I guess.

    Thanks for replying. Made me evaluate things a bit more.


    Unless I misunderstood, I think that @Elise4270 is suggesting that your salt intake is too low, not too high. Salt gets maligned because it's so prevalent in the modern diet and certainly can contribute to health issues, but it is absolutely possible to go too far in the other direction and that can effect your health too, especially if you're exercising regularly. Unless your doctor has told you to watch your sodium levels, you really do not need to worry about eating too much salt, especially with a diet as strict as yours sounds.

    I know it's obnoxious advice, but to the extent you can, you may want to try and relax a little. You've seen the effect stress has on your body. Losing weight doesn't need to be super stressful or require a massively complex diet, and water weight fluctuations are a fact of life. Plus your body needs calories to heal! You can do this if you're patient and consistent. Good luck!

    ---
    Oh.... thank you. Yes I miss read. Ok then I'm good then except those days that I eat too many carbs with the same salt intake. Thank you!
    I will be more diligent on it.

    I never take any advise as obnoxious. So feel free to keep advising, Im actually thankful you guys share your knowledge.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    edited August 2018
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    If you're sneaking in some carbs, salt is horrible with water weight.

    Eliminate the carbs and, OMG salt is a non-issue. I can eat the saltiest things now and not feel immediately dehydrated.

    DH ran 10 miles in the heat the other day, i kept nagging NUUN NUUN NUUN. He just dumped salt (potassium and sodium) in water and chugged it. Said it set him right immediatly. Hes not quite fat addapted. He still eats work crap. Er cupcakes. Haha! As i have 5, yes five Panera bread cookies in front me. Know how many ima eat?

    Anyway. My mention of salt, is just mearly that it could be a culprit. @traveling_lots. Were just brainstorming, hoping any thing we think of helps.

    ETA Because I'm traveling today. And dont think of everything at once haha. Have you thought about looking into those lipotropic supplements. I just started them and they seem to help with the fat metabolism. I think I've been able to up my calories without my weight going crazy I'm trying to figure out my calories. But it does seem to help. It might be something you want to look into I don't really know much about them.
    My problem is I start to have some room to add a few calories, and I go by 5 Panera Bread cookies. Haha! Back to driving
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    If you're sneaking in some carbs, salt is horrible with water weight.

    Eliminate the carbs and, OMG salt is a non-issue. I can eat the saltiest things now and not feel immediately dehydrated.

    DH ran 10 miles in the heat the other day, i kept nagging NUUN NUUN NUUN. He just dumped salt (potassium and sodium) in water and chugged it. Said it set him right immediatly. Hes not quite fat addapted. He still eats work crap. Er cupcakes. Haha! As i have 5, yes five Panera bread cookies in front me. Know how many ima eat?

    Anyway. My mention of salt, is just mearly that it could be a culprit. @traveling_lots. Were just brainstorming, hoping any thing we think of helps.

    ETA Because I'm traveling today. And dont think of everything at once haha. Have you thought about looking into those lipotropic supplements. I just started them and they seem to help with the fat metabolism. I think I've been able to up my calories without my weight going crazy I'm trying to figure out my calories. But it does seem to help. It might be something you want to look into I don't really know much about them.
    My problem is I start to have some room to add a few calories, and I go by 5 Panera Bread cookies. Haha! Back to driving

    ---
    Thank you!
    I'll keep better track of my salt when I'm over doing my carbs. I'm trying from here forward to be at 5% of carbs. Which I'm still exceeding. I'm learning as I go.
    I know we're brain storming, but I'm really thankful you guys share your knowledge hopefully at some point I hope something will work.

    I'm going to google the lipotropic supplements. Never heard of them.
    Your travelling? Driving?
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Have to add I just signed up at the gym. I did a bit of cardio on the elliptical using the glide movement get my legs stronger too.
    I'm also trying to walk every evening min of 5 km. I'm using my garmin which it's set to running in 10 and ones but I only walk for now even if it logs as a run. It's something I hope I'll get back to.
    You guys are my motivation right now. My mentors!
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    @travelling_lots Are you already fat adapted? If not, this 3 months with reduced exercise is a good time to do that without so much impact to training performance. Since it takes 2-3 months for the changes to happen, I would say this lines up perfectly. I would suggest, though, that you need more electrolytes if you are eating low carb or keto. Don't limit the salt, potassium, or magnesium.

    ---
    Please excuse my ignorance here. But what do you mean by fat adapted?
    I just started walking daily aug 1 st this month.
    I just signed up for the gym today as well which I plan to do during the day, while I still go out for evening walks with a min of 5 km.
    I only have salt in my salads. I looove salads. Oh end I snack a lot in feta cheese at night about two oz of that there is more salt on that.
    I am taking 50 mg of potassium supplements. Magnesium i upped it to 750 mg daily.
    Just got protein shake as well two days ago to get plenty of protein without the extra carbs.
    I'm also taking all the vitamins and minerals just because of the keto diet for these three months just in case I lack nutrition in some way.
    Any suggestion on the above?
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Have to add I just signed up at the gym. I did a bit of cardio on the elliptical using the glide movement get my legs stronger too.
    I'm also trying to walk every evening min of 5 km. I'm using my garmin which it's set to running in 10 and ones but I only walk for now even if it logs as a run. It's something I hope I'll get back to.
    You guys are my motivation right now. My mentors!

    Glad you can glean a few nuggets of information from us. That's what were here for.

    We support the runner, no matter the diet, from cookie monster to carnivore 👍

    I had to fetch my car from the dealership a few hours away. Nothing better than getting a mile towards work and that phone call to come get it. Sure work missed me. Not.
    Good news there though.
    1) i didnt buy a new expensive car.
    2) all was warranty work that would have cost more than 6000USD. I don't know... Dealerships. Do they ever tell you the truth? Was it just "so glad you bought the extended warranty. We're encouraging you to do so NEXT time too". Or did it realy and truely save me 6000, minus 50 bucks deductable and two days off work, but no rental fee?

    Home. 2 cookies down. Dog fence fixed. I noticed yesterday that a neighbor runner with her little dog ran past and my sweet dog ran out to them and rolled her dog then ran back. Just a "hiiiiii fellow doggie".... 😟 Yup. Got on fixing that buried fence. Hope she runs today. My dog is gonna be shocked ⚡🐶😈🙈🙉🙊😁
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @travelling_lots Are you already fat adapted? If not, this 3 months with reduced exercise is a good time to do that without so much impact to training performance. Since it takes 2-3 months for the changes to happen, I would say this lines up perfectly. I would suggest, though, that you need more electrolytes if you are eating low carb or keto. Don't limit the salt, potassium, or magnesium.

    ---
    Please excuse my ignorance here. But what do you mean by fat adapted?
    I just started walking daily aug 1 st this month.
    I just signed up for the gym today as well which I plan to do during the day, while I still go out for evening walks with a min of 5 km.
    I only have salt in my salads. I looove salads. Oh end I snack a lot in feta cheese at night about two oz of that there is more salt on that.
    I am taking 50 mg of potassium supplements. Magnesium i upped it to 750 mg daily.
    Just got protein shake as well two days ago to get plenty of protein without the extra carbs.
    I'm also taking all the vitamins and minerals just because of the keto diet for these three months just in case I lack nutrition in some way.
    Any suggestion on the above?

    @midwesterner85 You got that one, right? Hes the expert.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Have to add I just signed up at the gym. I did a bit of cardio on the elliptical using the glide movement get my legs stronger too.
    I'm also trying to walk every evening min of 5 km. I'm using my garmin which it's set to running in 10 and ones but I only walk for now even if it logs as a run. It's something I hope I'll get back to.
    You guys are my motivation right now. My mentors!

    Glad you can glean a few nuggets of information from us. That's what were here for.

    We support the runner, no matter the diet, from cookie monster to carnivore 👍

    I had to fetch my car from the dealership a few hours away. Nothing better than getting a mile towards work and that phone call to come get it. Sure work missed me. Not.
    Good news there though.
    1) i didnt buy a new expensive car.
    2) all was warranty work that would have cost more than 6000USD. I don't know... Dealerships. Do they ever tell you the truth? Was it just "so glad you bought the extended warranty. We're encouraging you to do so NEXT time too". Or did it realy and truely save me 6000, minus 50 bucks deductable and two days off work, but no rental fee?

    Home. 2 cookies down. Dog fence fixed. I noticed yesterday that a neighbor runner with her little dog ran past and my sweet dog ran out to them and rolled her dog then ran back. Just a "hiiiiii fellow doggie".... 😟 Yup. Got on fixing that buried fence. Hope she runs today. My dog is gonna be shocked ⚡🐶😈🙈🙉🙊😁

    -- I think that's pretty good. I'm in canada by the way. Here we have warranty for 3 years or up to certain amount of clicks then you can add the extra warranty to that but we pay no deductible. It all depends on the type and dealer too. So, I think it was worth it that would have been a huge bill ouch! Unless it's recalls then it's covered no matter what the year.

    Ah yes, I too love cookies, just got a recipe for low carb chocolate chips. Haven't tried them yet. Also got a waffle/ pancake recipe low carb which I tried and very tasty with coconut flour.

    I'm visual so I've been checking out recipes and that fills me up. Lol for now.

  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    @Elise4270 what site was it, for running challenges but I can click the walking for now?
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @Elise4270 what site was it, for running challenges but I can click the walking for now?

    Sure you can count walking. Just pop in, introduce yourself a bit and let the magic happen haha! In a

    Beetlejuice like voice "Ehehehehe mmmm we got another one y'all" (i really should get out more- i think my brain craves more stimulation, and i get nutty. Cuz its definitely not a sugar high, from cookies.)

    I dont have the link directly to the group... Bet someone will share it. Ive forgotten my password, again. That i just reset 2-3 days ago... But if you go to challenges, August 2018 Monthly running challenge, i believe you'll find us. We have a few Canadians already. @sarahthes is one of em, eh?
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @Elise4270 what site was it, for running challenges but I can click the walking for now?

    Sure you can count walking. Just pop in, introduce yourself a bit and let the magic happen haha! In a

    Beetlejuice like voice "Ehehehehe mmmm we got another one y'all" (i really should get out more- i think my brain craves more stimulation, and i get nutty. Cuz its definitely not a sugar high, from cookies.)

    I dont have the link directly to the group... Bet someone will share it. Ive forgotten my password, again. That i just reset 2-3 days ago... But if you go to challenges, August 2018 Monthly running challenge, i believe you'll find us. We have a few Canadians already. @sarahthes is one of em, eh?
    -- ah, thanks I did I think two days ago. That brought me here. :-)
  • iamworthy14
    iamworthy14 Posts: 413 Member
    new to this group.....not new to running been my passion for past 10 years...long distance don't like to run fast : I had lost 20lbs but now gained it back trying to lose it again. I seem to binge eat and I think its a mix of not eating enuff and PMDD ick every month. I love running but feeling so heavy lately its frustrating. I have a desk job now still try to run 4-6 most days how do you find the right calories to run yet lose lbs??
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @travelling_lots Are you already fat adapted? If not, this 3 months with reduced exercise is a good time to do that without so much impact to training performance. Since it takes 2-3 months for the changes to happen, I would say this lines up perfectly. I would suggest, though, that you need more electrolytes if you are eating low carb or keto. Don't limit the salt, potassium, or magnesium.

    ---
    Please excuse my ignorance here. But what do you mean by fat adapted?
    I just started walking daily aug 1 st this month.
    I just signed up for the gym today as well which I plan to do during the day, while I still go out for evening walks with a min of 5 km.
    I only have salt in my salads. I looove salads. Oh end I snack a lot in feta cheese at night about two oz of that there is more salt on that.
    I am taking 50 mg of potassium supplements. Magnesium i upped it to 750 mg daily.
    Just got protein shake as well two days ago to get plenty of protein without the extra carbs.
    I'm also taking all the vitamins and minerals just because of the keto diet for these three months just in case I lack nutrition in some way.
    Any suggestion on the above?

    @midwesterner85 You got that one, right? Hes the expert.

    LOL Not exactly an expert, but decently aware.

    @travelling_lots Fat adapted is a term used to describe someone who has undergone changes to improve efficiency of using fat for energy. These changes happen in several phases and take 2-3 months to complete. If you have eaten a ketogenic diet for 3+ months, then you have become fat adapted.

    The end result of fat adaptation is that your muscles can directly oxidize fat at a high exertion level. The typical SAD consumer can only rely on fat oxidation up to about 55% of their VO2 max (65% if an elite athlete). I'm fat adapted and have estimated through various measurements that I'm oxidizing fat up to about 80% of my VO2 max.

    Another interesting effect that was recently discovered is that fat adapted individuals store new glygocen in muscles rather than their liver - at a 6:1 ratio. A SAD eater would store new glycogen at a 1:1 ratio in muscles:liver.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    new to this group.....not new to running been my passion for past 10 years...long distance don't like to run fast : I had lost 20lbs but now gained it back trying to lose it again. I seem to binge eat and I think its a mix of not eating enuff and PMDD ick every month. I love running but feeling so heavy lately its frustrating. I have a desk job now still try to run 4-6 most days how do you find the right calories to run yet lose lbs??

    Million dollar question right there.
    The answer, unfortunately comes in pennies.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited August 2018
    @midwesterner85 =expert

    Great info btw. Id havd sounded like one of those squid-billies er what ever they are.
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    edited August 2018
    new to this group.....not new to running been my passion for past 10 years...long distance don't like to run fast : I had lost 20lbs but now gained it back trying to lose it again. I seem to binge eat and I think its a mix of not eating enuff and PMDD ick every month. I love running but feeling so heavy lately its frustrating. I have a desk job now still try to run 4-6 most days how do you find the right calories to run yet lose lbs??

    The only thing that has worked for me is diligent tracking and patience. Not everyone needs the first, but I think the second is pretty universally necessary. I started running seriously this spring and started gaining weight at the same time even though I was tracking (I lost about 50 pounds in 2017-18) because I was just so HUNGRY after longer or harder runs. It's taken a while and maybe 10 pounds to figure out how to fuel and run and still be in a deficit, but I figured it out eventually. I know you can too!

    ETA: You may be onto something with the idea that your binging is related to not eating enough. I've found it easier to maintain a smaller deficit so I can eat more from day to day than trying to white knuckle it through a big deficit. The slower you lose the more you can eat, but of course, the longer it takes. That was part of why I got into working out and eventually running - I wanted goals to focus on other than weight loss!