Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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Friday friday friday!!!!
I'm waiting on a pt appointment, contemplating lunch. I think I've just about talked myself out of a poor choice between a burger and a beer or a sandwich and a cookie or four. .... Hehe.
I had Starbucks for breakfast, so if i can make a responsible choice while my belly is happy, i may avoid the cathartic food choice.
How everyone else coming along today?
@shanaber i wanted to compare the muscle loss in our legs.
I had a lean loss of 1.1lbs on the left, 0.3 on the right.
The left also had an additional 1lb loss of fat. The right was 0.3 lb fat loss. My left, i feel, is not "normal" and an indication of nerve irritation/ regeneration/firing/muscle engagement.
Anyway, i figured with age, some LBM loss is inevitable. I'm going to do better with some strength exercises for now, watch the over training/running which may not be allowing recovery? Maybe make sure i have some BCAA's 2-3 times a week. Wonder what insight you've made in your matter?
I did gain muscle every where else. More than a pound in my core and a pound in my glutes. So something is going right. So i dont think its an issue of lack of protein and calories, which i expect an overall LBM loss.0 -
It's Friday and payday and rest day so the plan is to go out for lunch (with my husband). We already had Tim Hortons for breakfast. Good thing I'm planning to walk tonight.
Tomorrow I have to do a long run in the morning and then family stuff so I think I'll meal plan on my walk tonight and actually make a shopping list. I'm trying to cut back on meat. In theory also refined carbs, but in practice I had a lot of (white) bread this week!
I'm not feeling terribly stressed or anxious right now which means good food choices should be easier as long as there's no runger. I gained back 2 lbs this week but that's fair as I think most of the 6 lbs I lost last week was water. Still trending down over the past 4 weeks.2 -
@shanaber. I had a theory on the muscle loss.
If through training the larger fast twitch muscle fibers are converted to smaller slow twitch muscles, in my mind this could account for what appears to be the loss of lean muscle. Idk of course. Just a thought. I may Google it later and see if there is anything to it.0 -
@elise4270 - I have struggled with understanding at the detail level how you build LMM. Here are my stats:
Overall LMM stayed pretty much the same (0.2lb reduction)
Overall BFM went down 1.7lbs
BFM was unchanged in my arms but went down 1lb in my trunk and the rest in my legs (0.2 in my right leg and 0.5 in my left)
LMM went down a tiny bit in my arms and trunk but 0.5 in my left leg and 0.3 in my right
I do tend to be more injury prone in my left leg but my right has all the foot and ankle instability so the difference between the two may be related to my form as a result of that.
I have thought about BCAA's but this is a challenge for me because I want to make changes that will last and I am not sure if you build as a result of the BCAAs if that muscle is sustainable. So for now I am just sticking with the nutritionist's recommendations because they seem to be (slowly) working.
I don't think I ever had any fast twitch muscles to convert to slow twitch
I did read an interesting article about why (some) fit people/runners still get winded going up stairs for example. It has to do with not having the fast twitch muscles!
https://www.runnersworld.com/health-injuries/a22548432/shortness-of-breath-climbing-stairs/1 -
Well, I’m closing my aug with lots of high calorie days.
Just today I had a huge tuna salad 200 calories that was very healthy then I ate 4 frozen Mavis in pieces. Oh so delicious 500 cal min right there.
1large bag of cheese Doritos maybe another 500 cal but I’m not feeling guilt for what ever reason. Guess it’s the stress.
I just checked myself in hue in the over night st the hospital do they can monitor my heart while I sleep. Too bad it wasn’t last night. My chest felt bad heart going crazy. Couple of times gasping for air. Barely slept 3 hours last night. Dead tired. Now, watch I’ll sleep like a baby and try won’t catch and figure out what they should. Grr
Lights out at 2209 wake up call at 0500. Lovely.2 -
I didn't give in to the burger, beer or the cookies today while in Dallas for my last pt appointment.
Instead i walked, then had Halo for dinner 😊
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Well finally home and showered. I just hate knowing the bacteria you drag with you leaving the hospital or dr office. Yuk!
In new pjs 8am but I'm still going to take a nap hopefully for two hours. Weather is beautiful to start the month. Then I'll head to the treadmill for my jog on it. Yippie!
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Oh yeah, I totally blew my calories yesterday. And I didn't even weigh myself this morning! Ah well. September is another month. Not long ago we used to go out 2-3 times a week, so 1-2 times a month is a pretty good improvement.1
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@Elise4270 - Great choices! Hope the PT appointment went well.
We had our last Hollywood Bowl concert for the season. DH smoked 3 racks of ribs and we took that with salad. Our friends brought some wonderful cheeses with different jams and crackers for appetizers and another brought roasted potatoes. Then cheesecake for dessert during intermission. Drank too much wine but it was over about 7 hours. So glad I got a good run in yesterday to at least help with some of those calories!
Today resting and watching the first of the college football games!1 -
I'm not convinced I've had any vegetables or fruit today. Probably should grocery shop tomorrow. I also ate too much yesterday but some of that was boredom. It was rainy so I didn't walk much after dinner - I find that kills my boredom nicely and prevents boredom eating.
I ran a lot today so calories not an issue, anyway.1 -
@shanaber That food sounds amazing!
@MegaMooseEsq In addition to the bored grazing last night I went out for breakfast and lunch and had takeout for dinner. Haven't done that in a long time either! I do think indulging occasionally is very good for the soul.3 -
I have pms. Haha!
Made a giant sour cream pancake on top of some bacon. Now i want another, but know I'm inviting a migraine with 2 pieces of bacon already. Mmm. I like mine with only butter. Dh says thats not normal (uh thank you). Anyone else only do butter? That maple syrup is nasty.
I'm hoping to run off those carbs tomorrow... After church... In the heat...
I've embraced slow, stop for water, even a banana, and dont fret the demanding "Run!" prompt by garmin. A happy run keeps the funk at bay.
I did try to eat a few green apples to thwart the pms hunger. But they tasted awful.2 -
@Elise4270 - the only thing I like maple syrup for is to dip my bacon in
I do like fresh strawberries on my pancakes and waffles or pecans... love them with butter and pecans!
Are you anywhere near Stillwater? My hometown college football team is playing there next week. We were going to go but decided to drive to Oregon instead.
@sarahthes - I keep thinking about the cheeses we had and wishing I had some at home. Probably better we don't but they were so good. One was a cambozola (blue cheese and brie) paired with fig jelly and/or fresh figs. OMG I think I will be dreaming about it.
Meal plans for the weekend? (US has a long weekend) We are having spaghetti tonight, leftover ribs tomorrow night and bbq burgers on Monday. Tuesday we head off for a road trip to Oregon - Tillamook Creamery is on our list of places to visit!!2 -
Man, Tillamook dairy products are one of the things I love about visiting my in-laws. Or used to. They don't eat dairy fat anymore. But man, marionberry ice cream....0
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Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
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@sarahthes - I will let you know if they have the marionberry ice cream since it is well past the season for them! I am also looking forward to the cheese!b Love Tillamook extra sharp cheddar! I am pretty sure I could live on dairy - cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese and ice cream!
@Elise4270 - Yes - OSU... I had to look because they have played both OSU and Oklahoma and I couldn't remember which it was. We follow Boise State (blue football field if you follow college ball). We are driving to Boise in November to see a game. Good excuse for me to visit because I love it there and there is some amazing running areas. I am thinking I may need to find a race to go to there too
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@sarahthes - I will let you know if they have the marionberry ice cream since it is well past the season for them! I am also looking forward to the cheese!b Love Tillamook extra sharp cheddar! I am pretty sure I could live on dairy - cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese and ice cream!
@Elise4270 - Yes - OSU... I had to look because they have played both OSU and Oklahoma and I couldn't remember which it was. We follow Boise State (blue football field if you follow college ball). We are driving to Boise in November to see a game. Good excuse for me to visit because I love it there and there is some amazing running areas. I am thinking I may need to find a race to go to there too
@shanaber @ceciliaslater told us about the Jenks half. Its flat and small. Good place to PR /AG when you need one. Haha! Its put on by some nice folks too.
I occasionally watch college ball, or even nfl. We dumped cable and have 3 local channels so.... Not much ball to catch here. Im not okie native, so I'm for anyone playing the Oklahoma teams. I was the same was in Texas, but ive come to feel that more as home, especially with TCU and Baylor.0 -
travelling_lots wrote: »Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
I got ya beat. After my buttery, bacon pancake... Dh came home and handed me a box of cheesecake. Yuck. It wasnt even the good New York style. I ate a dumb piece of Snickers cheesecake... Have not even looked at the calories yet. Started this morning. Now crampy, headach. And i gott go run all this bloat off. Like a bloaty goat. Haha! La la la la la la... (Emporers new grove). *No touchy*. Im wierd.2 -
Ug, it's been a weird weekend. We basically decided to buy a house, figured out financing, submitted a bid, and found out we didn't get it in maybe a week? So after a very hung over morning yesterday I've been desperately trying to make up hours last night and today. I don't think I'm going to make my target, but I'm giving it a go. The husband ran off to play D&D with friends all night so I made plans to have sushi with my ex tomorrow. Is no big thing, we're all friends. He was in our wedding party along with one of my husband's exes, even. In any case, no fun BBQ or anything, just work work and work. And sushi. And a long run tonight which is probably going to be pretty sticky and possibly more hilly than I'm used to, but I have my new water belt to try out, so that will be fun.
I'm guessing that the conversation isn't about Stillwater, MN given all the Oregon references? That would be a long drive!1 -
@MegaMooseEsq - The conversation was about Stillwater, Ok. 😊 My husband wanted to go there to watch Boise State (my hometown team) play OSU next weekend. Instead we decided to drive up to Oregon next week and go to Boise in November for a game. I am looking forward to lots of running in some new places next week as well as exploring places along the coast and Tillamook cheese and ice cream 😋 (Will need to run to make up for all of those calories)!2
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travelling_lots wrote: »Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
I got ya beat. After my buttery, bacon pancake... Dh came home and handed me a box of cheesecake. Yuck. It wasnt even the good New York style. I ate a dumb piece of Snickers cheesecake... Have not even looked at the calories yet. Started this morning. Now crampy, headach. And i gott go run all this bloat off. Like a bloaty goat. Haha! La la la la la la... (Emporers new grove). *No touchy*. Im wierd.
Bloated. I woke up to bloated. Had finished off the cheese plate platter from the other night plus 2 homemade strawberry double cream cones tummy is distended and I’m swollen all over I guess too much salt :-(
Skipping hike this morning. Have to see what to do about later today. I feel as big as a house now.
Hope you feel better, I hate goos side effects:-(
@MegaMooseEsq I think it’s the full moon affect or something we seem to be aiming st eating not so right things. Funny part was I wasn’t really into my food yet I finished it all. Blew diary count in the process and feel so yucky now from it :-(
I really hope this goes away for us soon.
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travelling_lots wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
I got ya beat. After my buttery, bacon pancake... Dh came home and handed me a box of cheesecake. Yuck. It wasnt even the good New York style. I ate a dumb piece of Snickers cheesecake... Have not even looked at the calories yet. Started this morning. Now crampy, headach. And i gott go run all this bloat off. Like a bloaty goat. Haha! La la la la la la... (Emporers new grove). *No touchy*. Im wierd.
Bloated. I woke up to bloated. Had finished off the cheese plate platter from the other night plus 2 homemade strawberry double cream cones tummy is distended and I’m swollen all over I guess too much salt :-(
Skipping hike this morning. Have to see what to do about later today. I feel as big as a house now.
Hope you feel better, I hate goos side effects:-(
@MegaMooseEsq I think it’s the full moon affect or something we seem to be aiming st eating not so right things. Funny part was I wasn’t really into my food yet I finished it all. Blew diary count in the process and feel so yucky now from it :-(
I really hope this goes away for us soon.
Hugs. I'm all for taking things in moderation, taking care of yourself, and treating each day like a new day. Maybe next time you'll remember not to eat the whole platter.
Cheese is a definite favorite of mine, for sure! Maybe a light walk instead of a hike? 1 -
Started off my day with a carb fest... now I need to get moving (rest day, so a long walk is in order) and eat a bunch of veg & protein for lunch & supper today ... groceries first though.1
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I bought potatoes, yams, 3 kinds of squash, mushrooms, onions, and enough broth to feed an army. Time to make winter veg stew! Got some ground sausage to use for protein.
They also had canned and dried pulses on sale so I got half a dozen cans of black beans and chickpeas, 2 kinds of dried lentils and some sort of barley. I feel like thick soup is also in our future.
Tomorrow my oldest starts grade 1. Neither of us are looking forward to figuring out lunches for the pickiest kid on the planet! I got a small (8-10 oz I think?) thermos as I see a lot of pasta in his future. And I bought fake peanut butter. It says it's made with soybeans. The good news is he loves fruits & veg - I am more worried about protein.2 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
I got ya beat. After my buttery, bacon pancake... Dh came home and handed me a box of cheesecake. Yuck. It wasnt even the good New York style. I ate a dumb piece of Snickers cheesecake... Have not even looked at the calories yet. Started this morning. Now crampy, headach. And i gott go run all this bloat off. Like a bloaty goat. Haha! La la la la la la... (Emporers new grove). *No touchy*. Im wierd.
Bloated. I woke up to bloated. Had finished off the cheese plate platter from the other night plus 2 homemade strawberry double cream cones tummy is distended and I’m swollen all over I guess too much salt :-(
Skipping hike this morning. Have to see what to do about later today. I feel as big as a house now.
Hope you feel better, I hate goos side effects:-(
@MegaMooseEsq I think it’s the full moon affect or something we seem to be aiming st eating not so right things. Funny part was I wasn’t really into my food yet I finished it all. Blew diary count in the process and feel so yucky now from it :-(
I really hope this goes away for us soon.
Hugs. I'm all for taking things in moderation, taking care of yourself, and treating each day like a new day. Maybe next time you'll remember not to eat the whole platter. Cheese is a definite favorite of mine, for sure! Maybe a light walk instead of a hike?
Thanks, I know what you mean I normally keep it to 2-3 oz of feta cheese a day. But my goodness it was assorted cheese plate all my favourites and I love cheese more than chocolates. Oh couldn’t be helped. Still remember how it tasted .
I know it’s bad. :-( .....it’s my only weakness .
But yes, your right. Just seasoned my lamb chop and made a fresh mozzarella,tomato and basil salad for dinner. It’s in the fridge marinating.
It’s 34degrees outside I’m beat. Napping for a bit, mopping my floors and going for a long walk. It’s to be 28 degrees by 1900-7 I hope.
Now you know I can relate to you with bloating. It’s horrible !
Have you heard of sena leaf?
Well I cheat in these extreme situations.
Sena works as a laxative if you take too much. I buy it in tea bags.
one tea bag for two cups and drink Next morning no bloating. I always do that but I had no sena tea last night.
Feel better the next day and can fit in my clothes. You do urinate a lot during the night. But if you take too much you get diarrhea.
It dehydrates and need to drink ultralights the next day. I drink lots of coconut water. Also it’s not good to use all the time. I use it maybe twice a year when I do things like over eating cheese. :-)
But unfortunately it doesn’t make the calories dissolve.
I hope your feeling better.
Is there anything you do to help it out?
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I bought potatoes, yams, 3 kinds of squash, mushrooms, onions, and enough broth to feed an army. Time to make winter veg stew! Got some ground sausage to use for protein.
They also had canned and dried pulses on sale so I got half a dozen cans of black beans and chickpeas, 2 kinds of dried lentils and some sort of barley. I feel like thick soup is also in our future.
Tomorrow my oldest starts grade 1. Neither of us are looking forward to figuring out lunches for the pickiest kid on the planet! I got a small (8-10 oz I think?) thermos as I see a lot of pasta in his future. And I bought fake peanut butter. It says it's made with soybeans. The good news is he loves fruits & veg - I am more worried about protein.
Your winter stew idea sounds lovely. And more appealing with the sassausage for protein. I never made one. But if you have a nice recipe for it and love to share. I’d love to try it.0 -
travelling_lots wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »Let's not talk calories. Because I think ate so much today, it will take a week to burn.
I got ya beat. After my buttery, bacon pancake... Dh came home and handed me a box of cheesecake. Yuck. It wasnt even the good New York style. I ate a dumb piece of Snickers cheesecake... Have not even looked at the calories yet. Started this morning. Now crampy, headach. And i gott go run all this bloat off. Like a bloaty goat. Haha! La la la la la la... (Emporers new grove). *No touchy*. Im wierd.
Bloated. I woke up to bloated. Had finished off the cheese plate platter from the other night plus 2 homemade strawberry double cream cones tummy is distended and I’m swollen all over I guess too much salt :-(
Skipping hike this morning. Have to see what to do about later today. I feel as big as a house now.
Hope you feel better, I hate goos side effects:-(
@MegaMooseEsq I think it’s the full moon affect or something we seem to be aiming st eating not so right things. Funny part was I wasn’t really into my food yet I finished it all. Blew diary count in the process and feel so yucky now from it :-(
I really hope this goes away for us soon.
Hugs. I'm all for taking things in moderation, taking care of yourself, and treating each day like a new day. Maybe next time you'll remember not to eat the whole platter. Cheese is a definite favorite of mine, for sure! Maybe a light walk instead of a hike?
Thanks, I know what you mean I normally keep it to 2-3 oz of feta cheese a day. But my goodness it was assorted cheese plate all my favourites and I love cheese more than chocolates. Oh couldn’t be helped. Still remember how it tasted .
I know it’s bad. :-( .....it’s my only weakness .
But yes, your right. Just seasoned my lamb chop and made a fresh mozzarella,tomato and basil salad for dinner. It’s in the fridge marinating.
It’s 34degrees outside I’m beat. Napping for a bit, mopping my floors and going for a long walk. It’s to be 28 degrees by 1900-7 I hope.
Now you know I can relate to you with bloating. It’s horrible !
Have you heard of sena leaf?
Well I cheat in these extreme situations.
Sena works as a laxative if you take too much. I buy it in tea bags.
one tea bag for two cups and drink Next morning no bloating. I always do that but I had no sena tea last night.
Feel better the next day and can fit in my clothes. You do urinate a lot during the night. But if you take too much you get diarrhea.
It dehydrates and need to drink ultralights the next day. I drink lots of coconut water. Also it’s not good to use all the time. I use it maybe twice a year when I do things like over eating cheese. :-)
But unfortunately it doesn’t make the calories dissolve.
I hope your feeling better.
Is there anything you do to help it out?
Oh, I was hungover, not bloated. No cure for that but time and rest - I was fine yesterday after being a slug all day Saturday. Fortunately I’ve actually never experienced anything like the kind of bloating you describe - it sounds miserable! ETA: looks like @Elise4270 is the bloaty-goat. 1 -
travelling_lots wrote: »I bought potatoes, yams, 3 kinds of squash, mushrooms, onions, and enough broth to feed an army. Time to make winter veg stew! Got some ground sausage to use for protein.
They also had canned and dried pulses on sale so I got half a dozen cans of black beans and chickpeas, 2 kinds of dried lentils and some sort of barley. I feel like thick soup is also in our future.
Tomorrow my oldest starts grade 1. Neither of us are looking forward to figuring out lunches for the pickiest kid on the planet! I got a small (8-10 oz I think?) thermos as I see a lot of pasta in his future. And I bought fake peanut butter. It says it's made with soybeans. The good news is he loves fruits & veg - I am more worried about protein.
Your winter stew idea sounds lovely. And more appealing with the sassausage for protein. I never made one. But if you have a nice recipe for it and love to share. I’d love to try it.
No recipe, I mostly just throw things together until it tastes right! For the squash stew I will maybe leave out the yam (have it in another dish) so it's not too sweet.1 -
Running in the heat or finding a way to sweat out that water and burn those carbs helps with any bloat.
Then come home and have some good choices.
I'm not looking forward to the shorter daylight hours, but do love some winter soups!2
