Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    So I was pleasantly surprised last night with our friends who tend to eat rather unhealthily. They brought a tomato, mozzarella and hearts of palm salad as well as a fresh kale and cabbage salad both of which were delicious. The pulled pork was very bland but now I want to try making it in the IP to see what I can come up with.
    Also knowing that I have mentioned the Hollywood Bowl a few times I thought I would post a short little video from our concert past night. It was the annual Tchaikovsky concert with fireworks.
    1812 Overture with fireworks (sorry no video)zzd66j2458sq.jpg
    Yes that is the USC marching band. Not sure why but they always perform at this concertz5ue6l8dnmva.jpg
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Tchaikovsky! awww. love it!

    "WoW" on the friends! I wonder if they enjoyed the dish, something they'll continue to have? You are a great inspiration!

    I have a work trip planned with a colleague in October. He eats horribly. Chicken nuggets, fries, beer, cheese sticks.... of course, don't get me wrong, I like that stuff. But a trip? nah, I wanna hit some nicer places to eat and have something that is not everyday and wont throw my "do better" off, especially when traveling. I am secretly hoping that he wont make the trip. haha! c'mon. think of all the great food and running i can do without traveling with a toddler. haha!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @elise4270 - is this the same guy you had to travel with last time? Ugh... I hope not! At least maybe you can hit up places with foods he likes at lunch (hopefully with and option for you too) and go somewhere nicer for dinner?
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @elise4270 - is this the same guy you had to travel with last time? Ugh... I hope not! At least maybe you can hit up places with foods he likes at lunch (hopefully with and option for you too) and go somewhere nicer for dinner?

    Yes same guy.

    You are right though, with a bit of planning, I bet i can find balance. Maybe I really want to eat toddler food... : :#
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    I need some help here. Completely confused. How do I read this?
    What exactly have I burned for calories?
    Should I even bother clicking on garmin neg adjustment?

    Cardiovascular
    Walking. , 8 kph (7.5 min per km) 447
    Garmin Connect calorie adjustment -239
    TOTALS: 208

    I think the negative adjustment is so you don’t get double credit for the run and the steps, since the run number includes the steps, so your calories burned is 208. I use an Apple Watch and negative adjustments have worked out fine, even if they are confusing sometimes.
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    Thank you, yes. That would make sense.

    Tonight I didn't set my watch for the walk. It was actually dissapointing seeing the step count was 13205 but burned energy on mfp shows 39. :-(
    I rather set my watch see the calories burned in that walk ( showing effort) then the negative count can subtract I think I like that better. More so now that you explained it. :-)
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    @MegaMooseEsq thank you again.
    Since You explained how the negative factor works. It was demoralizing. Felt like I did nothing.
    I disabled it and not wearing my garmin unless I'm exercising.
    That way it's an accurate count for that activity and I feel better too.
    Today I did two events this morning on the treadmill 305 cal and this afternoon walking in the forest 448 cal.
    Not counting steps anymore. It felt unproductive.
    I'm happy with my 2 activities burning 756 cal today.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I may have developed a cookie habit. Thank goodness its cookies from Panera bread 2 hours away. I go back Friday, unless i feel like cancelling my last pt visit out of spite. Then not again until January. Think i should have the cookie craving under control by then.


    How's everyone doing, starting the week off with self respecting choices that aren't a giant lemon cookie?
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    There is a cookie place I love in Seattle by where my daughter used to live. It is near sort of where she works now but not where she lives. Last time I was there I dropped her off at work and then ran some errands that just happened to take me by the cookie place. I have 2 big ginger cookies in my freezer :)
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I think I've been under eating. I'm really bad at guesstimating calories for whole foods and I'm pretty sure I overestimate and then under eat. Dropped 6 lbs last week some of which was water but now I'm fighting hunger pangs and mild nausea from not eating enough. Time to start weighing fruits and avocados again I guess. And meat. I'm always way off on meat. I tend to underestimate things like ice cream and cake. But I'm not eating much of that right now so it's not balancing out in the long run.
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    I think I've been under eating. I'm really bad at guesstimating calories for whole foods and I'm pretty sure I overestimate and then under eat. Dropped 6 lbs last week some of which was water but now I'm fighting hunger pangs and mild nausea from not eating enough. Time to start weighing fruits and avocados again I guess. And meat. I'm always way off on meat. I tend to underestimate things like ice cream and cake. But I'm not eating much of that right now so it's not balancing out in the long run.

    Oof, that's obnoxious. I hate being hungry! It definitely sounds like at least a few days of weighing would help. I'm sloppy about weighing most fruits and veggies, but more dense stuff like avocados and meat definitely get weighed.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @sarahthes no chance of pregnancy?
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @sarahthes no chance of pregnancy?

    Very, very unlikely... 2 kinds of birth control plus hasn't been long enough since last period to have symptoms even if something got thru - the calendar thing I use says I just ovulated.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I may have developed a cookie habit. Thank goodness its cookies from Panera bread 2 hours away. I go back Friday, unless i feel like cancelling my last pt visit out of spite. Then not again until January. Think i should have the cookie craving under control by then.


    How's everyone doing, starting the week off with self respecting choices that aren't a giant lemon cookie?
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    Well, remember my comment before. Its all or nothing.? I'm not disciplined to have just a cookie, which do love. Just don't buy.
    WELL,
    I do keep raisins for my pancakes in the cupboard. Sadly have to say, I had the whole container of raisins. Equivalent of one cup. Didn't even add it to the diary because I know that's probably my carbs for the next two weeks. :-(

    Just thought I should be honest with you guys. Even if it's not in the food diary.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Hmm - is In'n'Out more self respecting than a big cookie? That was dinner last night. Today I am doing better but probably not eating enough. I have everything logged including dinner in a couple of hours and am still under 1400 calories and should be closer to 1900. I got out late to run so my pre-run snack became breakfast. Maybe I will have that cookie after agility class or an orange (probably a better choice).
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @shanaber In and Out... Eh, lets just chalk that on up to a life balance necessity. Never had one, but on the list. I think Fuddruckers is still my favorite burger joint chain. Although weve had some other good ones. Lubbock had a good one... Red and blue or something. And another in, idk where.. dh cant remember either. Poo.

    @sarahthes Sounds like you are poised to make a great change.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    We used to love Fuddruckers but there aren't any near us any more. I like In'n'Out better than Five Guys but for a really great burger I like Umami. Not sure where all they are located but they are more of a gastropub restaurant and not so much fast food. My husband loves In'n'Out though so we go once in a while. I get mine with double meat, no cheese or sauce so it is just a pretty basic burger. I would rather just have a burger with lots of meat.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Deconstructed burrito for supper today... black beans over rice with shredded lettuce/cilantro/lime juice on one side, corn on the other side, and topped with cheese, yogurt, avocado and salsa... Yum! And there will be leftovers for daaaays.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Deconstructed burrito for supper today... black beans over rice with shredded lettuce/cilantro/lime juice on one side, corn on the other side, and topped with cheese, yogurt, avocado and salsa... Yum! And there will be leftovers for daaaays.

    Mmm! Yum yum!

    I just put a roast and onion in the ip, (I eat a lot of roast, huh?).

    Probably cook the red cabbage with green apples in the drippings when its done.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @sarahthes - we are having something similar with salsa chicken that I made in the IP. It has become one of my favorite meals!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I may have developed a cookie habit. Thank goodness its cookies from Panera bread 2 hours away. I go back Friday, unless i feel like cancelling my last pt visit out of spite. Then not again until January. Think i should have the cookie craving under control by then.


    How's everyone doing, starting the week off with self respecting choices that aren't a giant lemon cookie?
    ----
    Well, remember my comment before. Its all or nothing.? I'm not disciplined to have just a cookie, which do love. Just don't buy.
    WELL,
    I do keep raisins for my pancakes in the cupboard. Sadly have to say, I had the whole container of raisins. Equivalent of one cup. Didn't even add it to the diary because I know that's probably my carbs for the next two weeks. :-(

    Just thought I should be honest with you guys. Even if it's not in the food diary.

    Put it in your diary. When you hit a loss, gain, frumpy streak or an on top of the world streak, you'll want to know how you diet faired. ;)

    Not many people eat a perfect diet, don't worry about making it look perfect. And I'm sure you'd only be doing yourself a disjustice by not logging it. Those carbs may get you to a point that you notice a difference.

    We just learn to find balance.

    Years ago i ate no less than 4 pecan pies during the month of November. So many calories i didn't have room for much else. That spilled over into December, we ate cobbler, coconut oil brownies amd more pie. Every poor choice limited my good choices. Anyhow. Documenting where you've been is a good idea.
    Raisins are close enough to real food in my book to not feel guilty over.

    Definitely share with us the poor choices with the good choices. We all indulge. Just here to get one another pointed back in the right direction.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Thank you. I've been going through some high stress. I'll write it up.
    Was told to go see another specialist for a second opinion since I'm not healing as fast as they want. Reason I ate all those raisins. Saw the specialist today. Only yo be told your really messed up. ( not ok we are going to be busy or something) your really messed up.
    This evaluation to be fully done will be more than one session and we're at 11/2 hrs already. He does believe there should be no issues in getting back into running, but there are things that need to be addressed now, or I may find that short lived.
    So now I'm to deal with him twice a week and (and very happy about this) gave me load of exercises to do at home twice a day. Which I was happy.
    But the fact that it's what the other physio thought I'm ok then out if the blue let's get a second opinion.
    It stressed me out, all emotions went through me. So I had an ex neighbour over for dinner just to have nice company fir dinner. So I made a nice meal to close this ugly day. I'm just dead tired from all this crap of rehabilitation I want my recovery over.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @travelling_lots - hang in there! We have pretty much all been in your shoes to some level with recovery from injury or surgery. @elise4270 could write a book on how to be patient, stay engaged in our discussions and be supportive all while sitting on the couch frustrated that she is unable to run and waiting for her recovery to be done, to get the ok to get back out there only to discover it still hurts or something new hurts.... and another surgery is needed.

    I do hope your new doctor gets you a plan for moving forward so you know what is required and how long you can expect it to take,
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    Thank you. I've been going through some high stress. I'll write it up.
    Was told to go see another specialist for a second opinion since I'm not healing as fast as they want. Reason I ate all those raisins. Saw the specialist today. Only yo be told your really messed up. ( not ok we are going to be busy or something) your really messed up.
    This evaluation to be fully done will be more than one session and we're at 11/2 hrs already. He does believe there should be no issues in getting back into running, but there are things that need to be addressed now, or I may find that short lived.
    So now I'm to deal with him twice a week and (and very happy about this) gave me load of exercises to do at home twice a day. Which I was happy.
    But the fact that it's what the other physio thought I'm ok then out if the blue let's get a second opinion.
    It stressed me out, all emotions went through me. So I had an ex neighbour over for dinner just to have nice company fir dinner. So I made a nice meal to close this ugly day. I'm just dead tired from all this crap of rehabilitation I want my recovery over.

    That sounds rough - I'm glad you were able to have a nice dinner with a friend! Don't forget that your body needs energy to heal, food is where that energy comes from, and carbs are the most easily accessible calories, so of course you body will be craving them during a recovery period. I know you're trying to keep the carbs low, but in the grand universe of "things I ate an entire box of", you could get a lot carbier than raisins. *hugs*
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @travelling_lots - hang in there! We have pretty much all been in your shoes to some level with recovery from injury or surgery. @elise4270 could write a book on how to be patient, stay engaged in our discussions and be supportive all while sitting on the couch frustrated that she is unable to run and waiting for her recovery to be done, to get the ok to get back out there only to discover it still hurts or something new hurts.... and another surgery is needed.

    I do hope your new doctor gets you a plan for moving forward so you know what is required and how long you can expect it to take,

    Ugh. I'm scared from the ongoing ordeal. I may update my profile to include my struggle to run journey. Lack the emotional where with all to stir that pot today.

    @travelling_lots Best advice i had from my PCP was, "Tough shlt. This is your life". My hip surgeon said i was "a mess". Messes get cleaned up. Just accept the power you have over your life and use it wisely. You'll get down, you'll feel emotionally beat up but you'll come out the other side with a story to tell and wisdom to share.
    Youll be busy with that PT. But no reason to not fill some mental void. That brain needs a break from the worry and all consuming anguish of injury. Pick up a musical instrument, indulge in a new language... take a class, anything you normally wouldn't be up for, tackle it.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @travelling_lots - hang in there! We have pretty much all been in your shoes to some level with recovery from injury or surgery. @elise4270 could write a book on how to be patient, stay engaged in our discussions and be supportive all while sitting on the couch frustrated that she is unable to run and waiting for her recovery to be done, to get the ok to get back out there only to discover it still hurts or something new hurts.... and another surgery is needed.

    I do hope your new doctor gets you a plan for moving forward so you know what is required and how long you can expect it to take,

    @shanaber thank you,
    I know your right, and I should be thankful it's not worse. I think what gets to me is I've put all my energy to work and recovery and dating on the back burner thinking ok let's get through this and feel good then date. Now, I feel great more time needed for recovery, so what now re-evaluate my thoughts on dating. I love being single but I don't want to let the opportunity pass by like I have been so far. I just didn't want to be a burden to anyone either. Maybe I'm making a big issue out of nothing :-(.
    But I'm sad, I'm trying to deal with my life one way and I keep hitting walls.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Thank you. I've been going through some high stress. I'll write it up.
    Was told to go see another specialist for a second opinion since I'm not healing as fast as they want. Reason I ate all those raisins. Saw the specialist today. Only yo be told your really messed up. ( not ok we are going to be busy or something) your really messed up.
    This evaluation to be fully done will be more than one session and we're at 11/2 hrs already. He does believe there should be no issues in getting back into running, but there are things that need to be addressed now, or I may find that short lived.
    So now I'm to deal with him twice a week and (and very happy about this) gave me load of exercises to do at home twice a day. Which I was happy.
    But the fact that it's what the other physio thought I'm ok then out if the blue let's get a second opinion.
    It stressed me out, all emotions went through me. So I had an ex neighbour over for dinner just to have nice company fir dinner. So I made a nice meal to close this ugly day. I'm just dead tired from all this crap of rehabilitation I want my recovery over.

    That sounds rough - I'm glad you were able to have a nice dinner with a friend! Don't forget that your body needs energy to heal, food is where that energy comes from, and carbs are the most easily accessible calories, so of course you body will be craving them during a recovery period. I know you're trying to keep the carbs low, but in the grand universe of "things I ate an entire box of", you could get a lot carbier than raisins. *hugs*

    ---
    Thanks and you are right carbs are good.
    I was so happy she came over, it's the same meal I make once a month but tasted better. Talking and laughing made a difference. I didn't even think of the amount of carbs I was eating. I really enjoyed a non guilty dinner. Amazing the difference good company makes. Was actually thinking having friends over for dinner once a month good excuse for catch up and enjoy a good carb day.
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    shanaber wrote: »
    @travelling_lots - hang in there! We have pretty much all been in your shoes to some level with recovery from injury or surgery. @elise4270 could write a book on how to be patient, stay engaged in our discussions and be supportive all while sitting on the couch frustrated that she is unable to run and waiting for her recovery to be done, to get the ok to get back out there only to discover it still hurts or something new hurts.... and another surgery is needed.

    I do hope your new doctor gets you a plan for moving forward so you know what is required and how long you can expect it to take,

    Ugh. I'm scared from the ongoing ordeal. I may update my profile to include my struggle to run journey. Lack the emotional where with all to stir that pot today.

    @travelling_lots Best advice i had from my PCP was, "Tough shlt. This is your life". My hip surgeon said i was "a mess". Messes get cleaned up. Just accept the power you have over your life and use it wisely. You'll get down, you'll feel emotionally beat up but you'll come out the other side with a story to tell and wisdom to share.
    Youll be busy with that PT. But no reason to not fill some mental void. That brain needs a break from the worry and all consuming anguish of injury. Pick up a musical instrument, indulge in a new language... take a class, anything you normally wouldn't be up for, tackle it.

    ---
    I think that's a fantastic idea to update your profile with your struggle to run journey. I think it would make a difference to people like me that needs to be reminded, it could be worse and others have been worse and are surviving or have survived an ordeal.

    I like your PCP. Talks like my dad did when he was around. Made a difference in many areas of my life. Man, you brought a flood of good memories saying that. Thank you!
    I needed a good nudge.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @travelling_lots - maybe now that you are feeling a bit better you can and should start dating some at least whatever you are feeling up to. Having some fun more often is just what you need to get you in the right mindset to get through the additional recovery time. It might also keep you from focusing on what you can't do yet. Kinda like @Elise4270's suggestion of learning a musical instrument (she took up violin :smiley:) or a new language (and German!!). Or find a new show on Netflix to binge watch!
  • travelling_lots
    travelling_lots Posts: 377 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @travelling_lots - maybe now that you are feeling a bit better you can and should start dating some at least whatever you are feeling up to. Having some fun more often is just what you need to get you in the right mindset to get through the additional recovery time. It might also keep you from focusing on what you can't do yet. Kinda like @Elise4270's suggestion of learning a musical instrument (she took up violin :smiley:) or a new language (and German!!). Or find a new show on Netflix to binge watch!

    --
    Thanks, Elise did wow! instrument too hard,language no one to practice with. The Netflix...now that is a good one. I can do that while doing stretches.

    They found a tear. On my flexor and extensor of my right arm. In a movable brace now. Not been able to use it the past two months so, been extreamly hard to even walk. I love sketching and reading. But can't hold a book turn page now. Reading online now. Ultrasound result just got yesterday :-(
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    shanaber In and Out... Eh, lets just chalk that on up to a life balance necessity. Never had one, but on the list. I think Fuddruckers is still my favorite burger joint chain. Although weve had some other good ones. Lubbock had a good one... Red and blue or something. And another in, idk where.. dh cant remember either. Poo.

    @sarahthes Sounds like you are poised to make a great change.

    @sarahthes dh interrupted me in this post. I figured the thought i was forming would comeback to me. But it never did. All i could think about was how much i could eat with those 6 pounds worth of calories! Sorry. I hope it proves to be an opportunity for you to take charge of your foods and use the "excess" for good. ;)