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  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
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    I hope you find the answers you are looking for….hang in there…
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,643 Member
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    I do hope you find answers Alexandra! :heart:
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,247 Member
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    Athijade wrote: »
    rhaiin wrote: »
    Has anyone else tried Joyn yet? Its a website with free workout videos for people that are overweight/have mobility issues/etc. I like that the trainers are closer to my size and the videos are more targeted for my fitness abilities. I'm really out of shape and I can never keep up with traditional fitness trainers.

    I had not heard of this but just looked them up. It looks really cool! I have been looking for workouts designed for people more my size and ability. Going to try some of these for sure. The mindfulness boxing stands out as something I may like.

    Gonna update on this.

    I actually really am liking this site. They have a very wide variety of workouts. I have done boxing, dance, and some basic stretching so far (dealing with some back issues so been keeping it easy). I feel good after the workouts... and I don't feel like a failure like I do with some other videos where I can't keep up or can't do a move as shown.

    I also like that they have a good selection of seated workouts. When my back, hip, or knee flare up, it's nice that I can still get some movement in without too much stress on them.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,247 Member
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    So I am thinking of doing something odd.

    I want to log what I eat this week but without thought of my deficit. Just try and listen to my body, eat what I want, but log it. I think seeing what I eat "normally" might help me in the long run because I will be able to pinpoint problem areas. Then, when I go back into a deficit next week, I will know where I can cut things out and where I ran into issues. Like eating after dinner or mindless snacking. Can I use this week to really focus on those habits and start to heal them? Obviously it will take more then a week to heal those problems, but I think that may be the step I need to take before I can be successful in losing weight.

    Any thoughts?
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
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    If this works for you, I think it is a great idea…if I did this, it would be very difficult for me ….I know my problem area is sweets….eating mindfully, I would eat sweets until I was full!…
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,247 Member
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    I should also mention that I am starting to feel anxiety about food again and beginning to have the intrusive negative thoughts when it comes to "good and bad" or punishing myself for eating something. So I need to break that NOW before it becomes really bad and unhealthy.
  • eliezalot
    eliezalot Posts: 620 Member
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    Athijade wrote: »
    So I am thinking of doing something odd.

    I want to log what I eat this week but without thought of my deficit. Just try and listen to my body, eat what I want, but log it. I think seeing what I eat "normally" might help me in the long run because I will be able to pinpoint problem areas. Then, when I go back into a deficit next week, I will know where I can cut things out and where I ran into issues. Like eating after dinner or mindless snacking. Can I use this week to really focus on those habits and start to heal them? Obviously it will take more then a week to heal those problems, but I think that may be the step I need to take before I can be successful in losing weight.

    Any thoughts?

    I think that is a great idea. Eat what you need, what feels good, what you want, and then tweak where needed. As you of course know, there is no need to force yourself to eat "good" food, or punish yourself for eating "bad" food. And if this helps you break out of mentally categorizing food like that, then I think you should go for it! Make sure you take care of yourself - that can be a slippery slope, so it is great you recognized and are addressing it early on!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,632 Member
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    @Athijade - you are being very responsible. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry when I read your second explanatory post. Been right there the past few days and I wish I had switched things up a bit before I hit that point.

    Maybe it doesn't matter when we address red flags - just so long as we do.

    Keep us posted. Please. Share how this is feeling for you so we can garner a bit of wisdom along the way.

    I'm thinking this sounds like "mindful" eating with some support. Logging can act like a brace on a questionable joint...hopefully just helping it not go completely out of place.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,247 Member
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    I'm thinking this sounds like "mindful" eating with some support. Logging can act like a brace on a questionable joint...hopefully just helping it not go completely out of place.

    That is sort of what I am hoping for.

    When I started with my current therapist, one of the things we discussed was the negative thoughts I had around food like the ones I mentioned in my second post. At the time I was way undereating because I was being so picky about what I could have because of evil calories. I was having full blown meltdowns and panic attacks at home and in stores because I JUST wanted a pizza or a candy bar. Just one... but I couldn't because those were "bad".

    Her suggestion was intuitive eating or mindful eating, but I was too scared to do it. Not count calories?!? Oh dear oh no!!

    I am thinking this may be a nice balance to hopefully help the mental aspect without letting myself get totally out of control. By tracking I will be mindful about what I eat and what impact those foods and those amounts have on me mentally and physically. It will give me data that I don't have.

    Honestly, this may be a more then 1 week thing. It may be a couple weeks or at least until I see my therapist again. But my hope is that once I can see the things I am looking for, that I can then slowly reduce the calories without ended up in a bad place again. It's an experiment. I can't end up in a worse place then I am now.

    I will be sure to keep everyone posted. I am not going anywhere. The community here has helped me through a few dark patches and I am forever grateful.

  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
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    Please keep us updated because we do care about you!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,643 Member
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    Are these thoughts coming in after large or long periods of deficits, or are they un-related? Plan sounds like a good experiment for the circumstances!
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,247 Member
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    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Are these thoughts coming in after large or long periods of deficits, or are they un-related? Plan sounds like a good experiment for the circumstances!

    They come after I have been in a deficit for a period of time. I will do great for a few weeks or a month, then I start getting the food anxiety once that honeymoon period is over. I know it is tied to having to restrict my calories and it is taking that into hyper focus and to an extreme.

    I see my therapist on Monday and will talk to her about this. See what she wants me to do.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,643 Member
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    Without being AT ALL ANYTHING of a "specialist", it does seem not unknown for large/extended deficits to exacerbate food ideation (and possibly to trigger or re-resurface dormant ED). I realize that it doesn't necessarily appear to help with weight loss... but a maintenance break may reset some of this depending on how hard it's hitting.

    Take care.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,632 Member
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    Just read this article about hydration. I'm sure there are better ones out there - but this came across my screen and I learned some things!

    Thought I would share the link:

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210802-is-water-always-the-best-choice-on-a-hot-day
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
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    Sorry you are going thru this…on some level we all have issues with food…always here for you and please keep us updated on your progress!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,632 Member
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    Another sideroad in the food journey. Hope this approach brings you some calm, @Athijade. Glad you are sticking around - keep us updated about how this approach feels.