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  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    Good for you, Athijade!

    I went up to 10 minutes rowing last night and it actually brought crazy relief to my knee. I think the mcl sprain is pretty well healed now - but there seems to be something weird going on inside. I'm thinking meniscus bits are floating around. Sometimes I can't straighten my leg, sometimes I can't bend it, it changes in a blink. Last night I really hobbled/limped to the rowing machine - rowed moderately - struggled off (it is way down there!) and could suddenly walk. It was tender, but I didn't have to limp. Today is still much better. Fingers crossed that whatever is floating around dissolves/breaks down soon.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    It definitely sounds from your description that you have cartilage floating inside OK Google I am leery to hear of that in conjunction with adjustment by a chiropractor which I seem to recall you mentioning as that was how my own cartridge was fully shattered with no possibility of saving the big pieces when surgery was eventually done so that it was just sucked out in total given that it was in little pieces .

    of course when I did my knee surgery arthroscopic procedures were still a new thing I do not know if a bit shy of 40 years later that would still be considered the caseπŸ€”πŸ€ͺ
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    I booked an appointment with doctor today...I know the cartilage has been ripped up for awhile, but am worried that it is going to go the way of yours if I ignore this. These days (in the past 2/3 years) they are much more interested in stitching the meniscus together! Finally! From what I've read even if you are nearing 60 - so long as the arthritis isn't too bad. Mine is there, but not bad (yet).

    I had surgery on my left knee just about exactly 3 years ago - wonderful surgeon saved that meniscus and cleaned up some bone overgrowth resulting from a meniscus medial root/MCL tear. Sounds suspiciously similar. I so wish that fellow was still around - but he packed his bags and left town :(
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    edited February 2023
    Well.... at least you're not too far from the center of the universe if you need to find alternative surgeons!!! :wink:

    Go Leafs! :lol:
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    I was thinking of how lucky I was on that front - pretty sure my shoulder surgeon does knees too. And he does take care of the Leafs !
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    18 minutes on the rowing machine today! Woohoo. Demon knee still problematic for walking - but it doesn't mind rowing :)
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    keep good form and row your boat!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    I'm trying! Between the shoulder (which will be forever imperfect) and the knee and my propensity for injury I'm a little terrified :)
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    So excited with this whole rowing thing. I'm sticking to 20 minutes but upping the intensity. Today for the first time in I don't know how long I achieved 26 minutes at the "cardio" heart rate! woohoo! My knees are a bit too mucked up to do that if I'm doing anything on my feet - but rowing works :)

    Plus another 136 minutes in the "fat burn" zone. It was a very good exercise day. Though I don't seem to get anywhere :)
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    edited February 2023
    I meant that I don't seem to get anywhere geographically when I'm rowing! I do feel like I'm getting somewhere physically. Feeling very much stronger after a month (???) of rowing - especially coming of of 5 weeks of extremely limited walking (hobbing).

    Are you back to hitting the gym, Yooly? What are you doing there?
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    I'll have to give rowing a try sometime! The one time i tried it I could definitely feel how lack of technique could be a real problem.

    I have an IRL friend who is a bit younger by a dozen years and an interesting story... he lost weight to impress the girl(s) and was at a reduced weight for a couple of years, long enough for it to be obvious that he was not entering an immediate rebound.

    That was one of the very few non immediate rebound real life data points I had where the possibility of successful longer term weight reduction showed through... even though he had regained it all before I started losing weight myself.

    But then he saw me losing weight. And a couple of years in started up again. And signed up with a local (on water) rowing club. Where he has gotten to be quite involved. And continues to be as slim or slimmer than myself... and multiple times stronger...
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    edited February 2023
    It is a serious exercise! I'm not really the type to join a group - but when I was telling a tiny, 75-year-old Asian friend about this rowing machine she was determined that we should go join a Dragon Boat team :) That is an entirely different animal though - they raise there arms overhead. My shoulder - probably neither should not just the screwed together one - isn't up to that motion!

    But yes - you should try it! I have a slightly modified technique so that it doesn't irritate my easily annoyed lumbar vertebrae - and so far so good. No pain anywhere and I've been slowly building up intensity :)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    Congratulations on the rowing! I go to the gym 3 times a week. I do 30 minutes on the treadmill usually at 3mph with incline. The another couple miles on a stationary bike - 15-20 minutes. I finish off with another 30-45 minutes of weights. I like to go early morning before I can talk myself out of it.
    When I started losing weight during covid, gyms were closed. So I worked up to walking 3-4 miles three or four times a week. I really loved being outside. But the hip issues got bad and I had to take a break. Started back in the gym last fall. I can monitor speed and intensity better there and it’s easier on old bones.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    plus do you know how often I end up SLIPPING with results up to and including landing on my butt??!?!?!?!

    the out of door thing has DANGERS
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    Yooly - you truly are an inspiration. Wow.

    Definitely safe in a controlled environment - don't want to get a bruise on your behind!! (or worse)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    Yup - safer indoors in the gym. Temperatures and humidity is controlled unlike the outdoors. Handy potty and lockers.
    I walked outside very early in the morning during covid. It was still dark but plenty of creatures running about. Deer, tarantulas, armadillos, foxes - I think the rattlesnakes were asleep.
    I did wear a hole in my thick soled walking shoes. That should have been a clue that I was overdoing it. But I was determined to the point of causing myself injury. Dumb!
    Older and wiser - this year anyway!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    Such different environments we live in. Early morning walks here would have me encountering humans in the lowest condition - so I aimed for mid morning. I love walking outside...still able to physically...I hope....when this knee gets figured out.
    Maybe no more dancing until I'm closer to goal weight. That was my DUMB move. Seems obvious now. Very very dumb to gain a pile of weight really quickly and then dance madly in a mosh pit for a couple of hours :(
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    But armadillos! Would love to come across one of them :) (I think?? are they as benign as they appear?)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    edited February 2023
    Unfortunately because armadillos are nocturnal, they are often encountered dead in the road in the day time. But at night they run about freely. They do root around and dig holes to hide, so not too popular with homeowners.
    Otherwise armadillos are kind of funny little animals. Surprisingly they are a carrier for human leprosy! I forgot to mention the horned toads and large lizards that run about too. They’re benign though.

    So the gym this morning was safe and climate controlled but lacked creature excitement.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    Well the outdoor dangers are not only for humans

    If it wasn't sad it would be funny. I mean seriously.

    My dog had I'm running down the trail at full speed and I didn't actually manage to make the turn and I slipped which means that I face planted and without snow in the ground did a complete slide forward on my side and face downhill for a while until my momentum was exhausted over dirt leaves and gravel.

    It's both sad but incredibly funny she doesn't seem to be particularly hurt though she does seem to have calmed down a bit so maybe she will be feeling it....πŸ˜¬πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    I mean she's down to one working fall paw so what does she expect?!?
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    Hope you’re not too badly hurt PAV! Or the dog. Perhaps an obedience course for the dog? Or a dog walk on level ground? Doggy tranquilizers?
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    Why would I be hurt? She's the one who took the slide!!!

    Oh, I see: no, my DOG had AN "I'm running down the trail at full speed and didn't manage to make the turn moment".... I was typing with frozen mitten paws and didn't make it clear enough!

    All this happened to DOG. NOT PAV!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    Doggy tranquilizers might be good before a dog walk!!! But what would be the fun and danger factor of level ground?!?!?!

    Wasn't this where the whole discussion started about the reduction in variability and danger when using indoor facilities?
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    Glad you’re okay. Sorry about the dog though. Training or tranquilizers for sure - before both of you get hurt!

    Off to the gym this morning. Added some time and difficulty in small increments. Time to up the game a bit.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    Only she fell? Not you?
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    I saw that clarified when I went to the next page. Glad you are both okay...but some degree of danger does add a nice spice to life :)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,298 Member
    Being 75 is dangerous enough! Every day is a crap shoot.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    lol..."some" degree of danger is spice - too much is a bit more like a sledghammer! You are an inspiration, Yooly. Thank you for keeping me (us) on my toes :)
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    edited February 2023
    Contemplating above boot snow plus slight injuries that already exist and walking in above boot snow and not liking where that's going!

    To be specific the slight injuries (which mean shorter strides and avoiding pushing off as hard with the left side for me) are pre-existing to yesterday's dog slide and may have to do with generic slipping and sliding dangers when trekking over slippery ground...
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,771 Member
    Above boot snow walking is RISKY. Maybe you need a couple more pups, a sled and a harness :)