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  • So I'm officially lost. I have reread the whole part about the stages and still can't figure out what I'm supposed to do tomorrow.
    I'm stuck and the spreadsheets won't link for me. Keeps telling me it's a fake app site :grumble: Too many numbers. I'm close to tears, this is frustrating. I have never felt so dumb :sad:

    Where are you stuck?

    What is my workout for tomorrow ( Stage 1 WOA) ... so far from what I understand its something like this....
    squats 1x 15
    push ups 1x 15

    seated row 1x 15
    squats 1x 15

    push ups 1x 15
    seated row 1x 15

    squats 1x 12
    push ups 1 x 12

    seated row 1x 12
    squats 1x 12

    push ups 1x 12

    I don't know. I feel like its not right. My brain is not working well right now ...
  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    Here ya go, 1st workout A:

    A
    Squat 2 sets of 15
    B
    15 push ups
    15 rows
    15 push ups
    15 rows
    C
    15 Steps ups (each side)
    8 prone jacknives
    15 step ups (each side)
    8 prone jacknives

    If you want to send me your email address by personal message, I can send you the clean exell files.
  • deninevi
    deninevi Posts: 934 Member
    Stage 1 goes like this:
    If you work out 3 days a week, let's say M,W,F: first week you do M-A, W-B, F-A. Second week you do M-B, W-A,F-B. And you go like this until the end.

    Work out A 1:
    Squat- set 1, 15 reps , rest 60 sec

    Squat-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Push up-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Seated Row-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Push up- set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Seated Row-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Step up-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Prone jackknife-set 1, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    Step up-set 2, 15 sets, rest 60 sec

    Prone jackknife-set 2, 8 reps, rest 60 sec.

    For Workout A2 you go the same way, A3 and A4-12 reps, A5 and A6-10 reps, A7 and A8-8 reps. The Jackknife goes, 8, 10, 12, 15 reps only.

    For Workout B1:

    Deadlift- set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Deadlift-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    DB Shoulder Press-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Wide-grip Lat Pulldown-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    DB SHoulder Press-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Wide-grip Lat Pulldown-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Lunge-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Swiss-ball Crunch-set 1, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    Lunge-set2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Swiss-ball Crunch-set 2, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    You follow the reps for B the same way as A wokrouts.

    Stage 1: you do 8 A workouts and 8 B workouts, so that makes 16 workouts total. If you do them 3 times a week, you will be done in 5 and 1/2 weeks. If you do them 2 times a week, you will be done in 8 weeks. Plus at the end there are 2 special work outs- one A and one B, so that will give you a half week or a week more.

    I hope this helps you! It was hard for me to figure out too, I never lifted before this program. Good luck!
  • Meggles63
    Meggles63 Posts: 916 Member
    Hi! I'll be finishing up Stage 1 this week (yay!) and plan on taking a week off prior to starting Stage 2. I'm also doing C25K and have my first race scheduled for April 14th. That is the week I should be starting Stage 2. I'm really nervous about all this and am considering extending Stage 1 an additional week and taking my rest week from lifting the same week as my race. What do you think? Am I just being silly worrying that starting the new Stage will make me more exhausted, etc. in addition to my nerves for running? Should I just plow on through? Any suggestions will be happily considered! Thanks ~ Meg
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    I'm putting a BIG CONGRATULATIONS out there for my friend, lauriebgood...she squatted her BODY WEIGHT (155 lb?) TODAY!!

    I'm going to presume that is a back-squat and she did 5 reps!!

    And, yes, she began NROL4W the first week of January, I think. She has grown VERY strong in a VERY short period of time....

    I am SO PROUD OF YOU, LAURIE!!

    WOW! Way to go Laurie. I can't wait toge there!!
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    I'll also be finishing stage 1 this week and it's a little bitter sweet. On the bright side I'm looking forward to my week without lifting to do some spring clean, painting and fun cardio classes. (It'll be my SPring break)
  • Stage 1 goes like this:
    If you work out 3 days a week, let's say M,W,F: first week you do M-A, W-B, F-A. Second week you do M-B, W-A,F-B. And you go like this until the end.

    Work out A 1:
    Squat- set 1, 15 reps , rest 60 sec

    Squat-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Push up-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Seated Row-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Push up- set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Seated Row-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec.

    Step up-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Prone jackknife-set 1, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    Step up-set 2, 15 sets, rest 60 sec

    Prone jackknife-set 2, 8 reps, rest 60 sec.

    For Workout A2 you go the same way, A3 and A4-12 reps, A5 and A6-10 reps, A7 and A8-8 reps. The Jackknife goes, 8, 10, 12, 15 reps only.

    For Workout B1:

    Deadlift- set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Deadlift-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    DB Shoulder Press-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Wide-grip Lat Pulldown-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    DB SHoulder Press-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Wide-grip Lat Pulldown-set 2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Lunge-set 1, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Swiss-ball Crunch-set 1, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    Lunge-set2, 15 reps, rest 60 sec

    Swiss-ball Crunch-set 2, 8 reps, rest 60 sec

    You follow the reps for B the same way as A wokrouts.

    Stage 1: you do 8 A workouts and 8 B workouts, so that makes 16 workouts total. If you do them 3 times a week, you will be done in 5 and 1/2 weeks. If you do them 2 times a week, you will be done in 8 weeks. Plus at the end there are 2 special work outs- one A and one B, so that will give you a half week or a week more.

    I hope this helps you! It was hard for me to figure out too, I never lifted before this program. Good luck!

    Thank you so much :bigsmile:
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    Meggle, if it were me, I would time my weight-lifting break to coincide with my C25 run. So, I think doing one extra week of Stage 1 (with the lowest reps and highest weights being the ACTUAL work-outs I would choose from Stage 1), and then doing your brutal cardio week, and THEN head right into Stage 2 once your cardio is done.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    I made it through my heavy cardio session, yesterday. And, I learned something about my body....it has been 5 weeks since I have done step-aerobics. And, I was pretty worried about my stamina, actually. As it turned out, my heart and lungs were FINE....but, truly, my legs had nothing left to give by about 40 minutes into it. They were VERY tired and sore from the weight-training the day before. So, it was my LEGS that gave out. Interesting!

    Anyway, all that pounding took its toll on my stupid right foot....and, I was doing a pretty good limp the remainder of yesterday. My upper back/shoulder were fine until I went to bed....and then it throbbed all night long.

    :(

    Now I'm upright, again, and it all feels better-ish. I'm going to the gym just to get in some light cardio and TONS of stretching.

    And, for the next few weeks/months, I'm going to work on my nutrition-plan. It went off the rails when I went to Hawaii and it really hasn't gotten back into appropriate form. All my fault. So, I'm going to get back at it. I *do* feel better when I eat better - this I know.

    PS - my first "challenge" will be NOT to late-night snack as I head into "mad men" premiere this evening....
  • silvernswan
    silvernswan Posts: 28 Member
    awww, Beeps, I hope all your sore spots get less sore soon!!
  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    PS - my first "challenge" will be NOT to late-night snack as I head into "mad men" premiere this evening....

    MAD MEN!!!!!!!! So jealous....
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Beeps sorry only really caught up with other blogs. You sound in a worse state that me. Ice and stretching is the way, be very careful with the weights though, sounds like a muscle pull but don't want to tear it!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    For sure it's a muscle pull. For sure I don't want to tear it. I am being careful. But I am not ceasing any activities....just modifying if I feel "pain" doing something.

    I was exhausted, last night, and slept until about 5 am....when the throbbing started up. So, that's an improvement!

    Today is weight-training - yay!
  • barefoot76
    barefoot76 Posts: 314 Member
    Morning, everyone!

    The scale is still not moving, but I'm less and less worried about it because the changes in the mirror are so inspiring! My arms are slow to catch up, but my legs and stomach are really looking good.

    I've been eating clean the last week, too, so I feel good about that, but I sure would like to get a lot leaner and I'm trying to figure out how to drop the fat. I keep telling myself that this is a journey not a race, and I see from many of the photos on Bodybuilding.com how it took 1-3 years for some of those women to look the way they do. So, I'm trying to be patient!

    I'm also having a hard time not spending all my time at the gym on cardio since my oldest son got me into reading "The Hunger Games" and I figured out I could read while on the elliptical, LOL!!!
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    OMG - I loved the Hunger Games... I could not put it down... SOOOO good. Can't wait to see the movie!!!

    I moved from doing HIIT on the treadmill today to actually running in my gym - 1 min hard, 2 min easy. WOW - so much more work then on the treadmill... I am FEELING my workout today!! Did my last 2A today!! Yikes... the dreaded body weight matrix next week!!!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    Good news for you, barefoot...opposite story for me. My stomach and legs/glutes are really NOT responding as well as I would have liked. And, I'll blame it on the nutrition-piece (not the work-out piece) - I accept responsibility and will be pushing myself harder, to eat cleaner, in April, May and June.

    As each week goes by, I find it easier and easier NOT to be focused on cardio. I only feel GUILTY when I see all my old friends at the gym still sweating on the machines. Then, again, it isn't like they are looking at my physique saying, "omg - you did THAT in 3 months??" It's more like, "I hope, in 6 months, someone can see a change..."

    And, I don't think I've been doing the lunge-jumps and squat-jumps like they are SUPPOSED to be done, in the body matrix. There are NO good pictures (in NROL4W) of this sequence. But, I just asked one of my mfp friends and she DOES put her back knee on the ground in her lunge jumps and she DOES go below parallel in her squat jumps....and she's in her last 8 weeks of training for a body-building fitness competition. So, she *knows*. Well, hell, I haven't been going that DEEP during the JUMP phase. Mostly because I'm sure I could NOT get through the body matrix if I did.

    And now that I know better, I'll have to try better. And, have no excuses. I don't have the body matrix, again, until Wednesday, but I think I'm not going to like it, at all, this week.

    :sad:
  • NancyNiles
    NancyNiles Posts: 145 Member
    Hello ladies! A new MFP friend recommended this group. I just got a copy of NROL4W two days ago. I'm still reading it and assessing how much I can incorporate into my life right now.

    Physically, I'm obese, so I need to tailor the plan to what I can realistically do now and add more in as I progress.

    Nutritionally, I have a family that will go all out rebellion on my *kitten* if I change their diet any more than I already have. They're being really good about the healthy foods and low-cal substitutions, etc. But any more and they'll start picketing in my kitchen, lol.

    So I'm maintaining the status quo (crappy *kitten* dieting and circuit weight training) until I finish reading enough to start making some changes. My goal is to worry less about how many calories I burn at the gym and focus on building the muscle I need to burn more the other 23 hours a day.

    A little about me: I'm 39, SAHM, hubby is a truck driver so I pretty much run things around here. I had a thyroidectomy a year ago after a tumor was found. Before that I gained 80 lbs in about a year or so due to a non-functioning thyroid. I'd hoped once I started on HRT the weight would come off on its own, but no such luck. I've always hovered around the 200 lb mark my entire life, even in HS. But now I'm 273 (after a 16 lb loss) and having to lose that weight the old fashioned way. It sucks, LOL.
    Anywho, nice to meet y'all. Feel free to add me if you like :) I don't have many lifter friends... most of my girlfriends are all cardiohaulics who subsist on the minimum 1,200 calories, so they don't really understand what I'm trying to do. Any extra support is always appreciated and returned :)
  • krissypea79
    krissypea79 Posts: 362 Member
    Hey ladies!! I am new to the group, and just completed my first workout of Stage 1!!! I am very excited to be doing this program. I had a GREAT workout - my heart really got pumping!! My HRM had me up in the 160's, especially during the prone jacknifes! love those!! :smile:

    Glad to be here!

    ~Kristin
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    Welcome aboard, nniles and Kristin!

    once I got the hang of the prone jack-knifes, I liked them too - too bad they don't appear, again, in the NROL4W series!

    nniles, can you prepare a meal for your family, but a separate (healthier) meal for yourself?? That's what I do now-a-days....well, that's what I do on the weekends. During the week, my nanny cooks - but she has strict instructions that, no matter what ELSE she is cooking, for me, it is baked fish filets and steamed vegetables. And, she complies. Nobody minds.
  • NancyNiles
    NancyNiles Posts: 145 Member
    Sorry, guess I should have mentioned my name is Nancy. Thanks for the welcome!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    I'll call you Nancy this time....but, in truth, these boards move SO fast that I rely on the "handles" to try and address people. It's CRAZY how many members have shown up in recent times.

    (I joined in fall and there was probably 200 members then....)
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    i have a feeling that i'm going to start stalling since i'm eating at a deficit. hopefully by the time that happens i'll be able to do a few chinups unassisted.
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    I'm doing a 250 deficit too, but it doesn't really work for me. It gives me too much room to eat bad. When I had fewer daily calories I had to be way more careful.

    Welcome Nancy and Kristin.
  • Shyloh1
    Shyloh1 Posts: 422 Member
    Started Stage 4 last night.

    The only thing that sucked for me is that when I upped my weights for doing the Step ups...my left hand got tired and had a hard time holding onto the dumbbell. I'll try again on Friday with the higher weight.

    Other than that,it went pretty good!

    Welcome to the new ladies!:smile:
  • shesquats
    shesquats Posts: 91 Member
    Hi MFPs, I just started weightlifting last nite and was wondering how do I account for calories? :smile:
  • emyback68
    emyback68 Posts: 89
    Good morning ladies! I am back after about 1 month of return to cardio and no weights. I dislocated my shoulder on about my sixth workout in this program : I did not have the clip on tight enough on the barbell while doing extensions on the bench and the weight slipped on one side and pulled my arm back and right out of the socket. It is still a little sore, but feels strong enough to give this another go. Started over last Thursday. Plan is just to move a little more slowly, starting with lighter weights and only doing twice a week. Oh, and using even lighter weights on my injured side, especially for things like dumbbell shoulder presses! (Only used 5 pounds today!).

    And . . . I put away my scale yesterday! I really want to focus on changing the way my body looks rather than changing the number on the scale.

    So has anyone else tried to do this program while recovering from an injury like this? I am just trying to listen to my body and not overdo it (and not get too down on myself about getting injured . . . again. In December I got a stress fracture in my foot. Seems like one thing after another slowing me down!)

    Anyway, just glad to be back!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    I've got an injury right now, emy, and I'm still forging ahead. Like you said, be mindful of any movement that "aggravates" the injury....but, for example, if it's your shoulder that is the problem, you should still be able to do lunges, squats, deadlifts, etc. - and any lower body items. So, keeping THOSE muscles working is GREAT!

    I have had lower-back injuries on-and-off for about 7 years - so I'm always VERY conscious about my back. And, with NROL4W, I simply am working on getting the form right, and lifting heavier as I get better with my form.

    It's a marathon - not a sprint. So, you'll do fine with this program. Remember, it is progress, not perfection, that is going to matter.

    Wouldn't hurt to consider paying a personal trainer to walk you through modifications to any of the exercises that would exacerbate your injury.

    Oh, and welcome back!
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    Hi MFPs, I just started weightlifting last nite and was wondering how do I account for calories? :smile:

    Under "cardio" section there is a "weight lifting" one. But it's pretty unrealistic... 120 calories burned for 40 minutes of weight lifting?!!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,151 Member
    So, I go to the "meet-and-greet" luncheon today, at work. As I normally work-out at lunch, I sacrificed my work-out to attend this meet-and-greet BECAUSE it was hyped (via e-mail from our President's Exec Assistant!) as a "corporate challenge fitness challenge".

    I arrive to be greeted by 3 x overly made-up plastic-looking women from a local spa. Holding cups with a "sample" of a shake (meal replacement).

    I then sit down with about 30 other women from my office and am treated to a 20-minute presentation on "Bodies by Vi" - some meal replacement program - AND, get this - a MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING SCHEME!!

    O.M.G.

    I was sooooooooooooooooooo pissed off, I cannot even tell you. At the end of the 20-minutes, I asked, very politely, but clearly, if the 'corporate fitness challenge' only applied to persons who were purchasing their products. And, the presenters said, "yes".



    Sooooooooooo, somehow it is "okay" for my employer to permit MLM scams to come into our office location and preach to stupid working women?? Moreover, instead of the 30-women saying, "hell, no, we can draw up our own fitness challenge to participate in - we don't need these damn meal-replacement schticks", nope, like lambs to the slaughter they lined up to PAY MONEY to these scammers.



    I walked out. I have a high enough position in the company I would have thought that would have demonstrated some kind of "leadership". But, nope. It didn't.

    So, now, I hate my employer for ALLOWING solicitations like this into my building. I HATE the Exec Assis who is NOW making $$ OFF HER CO-WORKERS by bringing in this b.s. product. And, I HATE my co-workers for being the fools that they are.

    Worst of all, I have NO "corporate fitness challenge" to participate in to help me with "accountability" (in real life). Dammit.
  • Hello everyone!

    I had planned to start Stage 1 of this program yesterday but I just found out I'm going to be traveling for 8 of the next 14 days. So now I'll be starting (hopefully) the second week of April. I was so glad to find this group and to see all the discussions going on! I definitely think this will be a great resource for me once I get started.

    A little about me: I'm a 25 year old woman that's been obese/morbidly obese for most of my life. Since last June and I have lost about 50 lbs just by dieting. I'm hoping that by starting this now, when I'm still very obese, that I can get good habits and have good muscle strength as I get smaller. I've done weight lifting programs with trainers before but they were all usually pretty light weight. I'll be really interested to see how "heavy" weights work on me!