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@Restart4m4 - welcome!! You've got a great start already losing 50 lbs, that's fantastic!
@Beeps - that totally sucks! I can't believe they weren't up front about that from the beginning. If you're in a position where you can give some "constructive" feedback, I definitely would!0 -
Welcome, restart....I think incorporating weight-lifting RIGHT NOW is an EXCELLENT thing to do!! Changing things up is VERY important for changing your body composition and I think you will REALLY like heavy-lifting!
jen - I'm not even going to bother....I'll take my rage out at the gym! I just learned (a little more) about the company I work for and, it's pretty disheartening. I used to participate in a little "fitness club" group that we had here, at lunch. We'd walk outside for 30 minutes (in the spring/summer), or do "jump-and-pump" for 30 minutes, or try yoga, sometimes zumba or dance. It was great!
That little group kind of fell apart when I decided to dedicate my lunch-hours to heavy-lifting at the gym. (They still go walking outside, when they can...) But, the ROOM where this MLM scam takes place is the ROOM where we used to do our fitness piece!! So, it seems PRETTY BACKWARD to me.0 -
Hi MFPs, I just started weightlifting last nite and was wondering how do I account for calories?
Under "cardio" section there is a "weight lifting" one. But it's pretty unrealistic... 120 calories burned for 40 minutes of weight lifting?!!
I hate that! I'm currently not logging anything in terms of calories for the workouts because I'm worried about over estimating my burn. But I agree that it seems like it should be more. Especially for the circuit type work like NROLFW. I'm saving for a HRM. :happy:
@Restart4m4 - Glad to have you!
@Beeps - That would piss me off too. Good for you for walking out! You keep doing what you're doing, and when you get better results than the others you can smile (graciously, lol) and SHOW them what's what.0 -
Beeps: that sounds incredibly frustrating but think you handled it really well. And of course getting cut will be the best revenge.
Welcome new people and welcome back Restart.
Logging the workouts: I'm just putting it under circuit training to equal around 200 calories because based on the book that's how much more I need to eat on days I lift.
In other news, really loving eating at maintenance and not at a deficit. think there might be something to this for me as clothes are feeling looser and scale is holding steady and showed tiny loss today after big meal and sodium load yesterday so think there might secretly be a bigger loss under that. Time will tell. So uh yeah the scale never made it to garage. sorry. But I'm not obsessing about it because all signs are pointing in the right direction. Boy Stage 7 is brutal. This 4 sets of 15 is crazy hard. some I could only do sets of 10 today.
Anyway, keep us posted everyone on your progress and how you're enjoying the program. I feel like it has really been a great fit for me. Tried to take some pics of my arms and back today but couldn't get any good ones by myself but trust me they look totally different than they used to.0 -
kcfaber - I cannot believe you are almost DONE! good for you....now, get your husband to take a picture of your FABULOUS physique!! Inquiring minds want to know....
Like kcfaber, I just log my weight-training at 211 calories per hour (given my weight). And, I'm not eating those exercise calories back, at this point in time. It gives me a *very* small deficit and I'm not sure where I am on the scale.
(Although, this weekend is END OF MONTH PROGRESS REPORT for my fitness challenges. Photos - YIKES! I will be REALLY glad when I am *welcoming* of these progress reports, rather than *dreading* them....which I think will be about 3 months from now.)0 -
Quick question, need opinions. I started Monday and my plan is to lift M-W-F and run T-Th. So I did the first workout Monday and I ran 7 miles today (normal run for me). My quads and glutes are screaming mad at me. Should I rest up tomorrow and do workout 2 on Friday or go ahead with workout 2 tomorrow cause it's a different muscle group. Ty!0
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I have all my high school aquiantances trying to get me on Body by Vi lol. They know i was a huge Beachbody person so they been trying to convert me. I'm guessing one of the execs wife peddles VI. In my opinion what ever works for people. I do my research and I do what I feel is best for me.0
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I started monday as well. My legs and butt hurt like crazy too! I think I am still going to get after it again tomorrow.0
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tunes, if it has been 48-hours since your last heavy-lift, then, yes, I'd give it a go. If your muscles are still too sore, one more day of rest is also a good solution - you'll know when you hit the gym tomorrow.
I had a LOT more DOMS in the beginning than I do, now....although at the beginning of each successive Stage, I seem to suffer DOMS (a LOT) again.0 -
I started monday as well. My legs and butt hurt like crazy too! I think I am still going to get after it again tomorrow.
Mine too!!!! I was happy when I woke up sore this morning though, I knew that meant I did it right! Looks like Workout B is more upper body stuff, so our glutes & quads will get a break! Looking forward to tomorrow's workout!! 0 -
Ty
Feel free to add me, especial those that started Monday!!0 -
Beeps - I give you credit for staying through the whole presentation! I probably would have just walked out...
I'm actually still feeling quite sore in my hamstrings & glutes from Monday's damn body matrix in Stage 3 ... Probably didnt help that my boxing class yesterday involved a LOT more squats than normal... I love it though! Havent felt sore in awhile so it feels good to know I'm making some progress. I will definitely be lifting today though - if my muscles are too sore or I feel too uncomfortable doing some of the lifts I may just make some modifications as I go.
I just want to add... Welcome to all the new members! :flowerforyou:0 -
I'm still sore but i'm gonna go lift today. Just still debating if i'm going to clean the house or lift first lol0
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I had a LOT more DOMS in the beginning than I do, now....although at the beginning of each successive Stage, I seem to suffer DOMS (a LOT) again.
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once I got the hang of the prone jack-knifes, I liked them too - too bad they don't appear, again, in the NROL4W series!
Not so! You can choose them, or go for the full pikes on the ball, as one of your hip flexion choices in Stage 5. I did 'em Monday night!0 -
once I got the hang of the prone jack-knifes, I liked them too - too bad they don't appear, again, in the NROL4W series!
Not so! You can choose them, or go for the full pikes on the ball, as one of your hip flexion choices in Stage 5. I did 'em Monday night!
Or... I do them in stage 2 instead of swiss ball crunches. I just find them a far better ab workout!0 -
Hmmmm, jarrett, I didn't realize that the prone jacknife could be swapped back in. (I should have realized this.) For my Stage 3 work-out B, I had my personal trainer design some abs for me to do, because I find the ones in that work-out B-O-R-I-N-G (really?? 90 seconds of "prone cobra"?? unnecessary imho.)
I'm doing my second-to-last Stage 3A work-out. So, the body matrix is on tap. I think now that I've convinced myself I have to go MUCH deeper in lunges/squats when I'm doing the "jump" portaion, I won't be able to finish the body matrix. I'll be too sore - too pooped. I am permitting myself to get in 4 on each side (lunge jumps) and 4 squat jumps. And then I'll work my way back up to 12/24.
Actually, because Good Friday is a holiday, I won't be able to start Stage 4 then (when I am scheduled to start it on my calendar), so I'll probably just do a repeat of Stage 3A on that day....an extra day of the body matrix - woo hoo hoo!!!0 -
Went and did my workout. I think i'm in love with this!! Sore as heck but in love! lol0
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Hmmmm, jarrett, I didn't realize that the prone jacknife could be swapped back in. (I should have realized this.) For my Stage 3 work-out B, I had my personal trainer design some abs for me to do, because I find the ones in that work-out B-O-R-I-N-G (really?? 90 seconds of "prone cobra"?? unnecessary imho.)
Yep...it gives the page numbers for hip flexion exercises, and the ball jacknife is by itself on the backside of the page...easy to overlook. There are only 4 reps on Stage 5, so I did the pikes. Oh, mama!
I don't like the ball crunches, either. I do v-ups, double reps, passing the swiss ball hands to feet and back. Oh, and the cobras? 120 seconds in Stage 5!0 -
Just got home from the gym - Day 2, Stage 1, Workout B. Great workout!!!! I need to watch some videos because I felt like my deadlifts were awkward looking lol. Not totally sure I was doing them correctly. Not really a huge fan of lunges (I should say me knees weren't, lol). Overall though, I feel awesome!
I decided to just up my calories on lift days, rather than using my HRM to log calories. I still wear it, but only to keep track of my rest periods. We'll see how doing this works out for me. I've been manually changing my daily calories each day, which seems to work out fine for me so far.
Hope everyone is doing well - I am so glad to be doing this, enjoying it so far!!! :happy:0 -
Oh dear. I have a problem, and would appreciate some thoughts if anybody has time.
We live out in the country, and there is a gym in a nearby town, but it really isn't very good. I bought a barbell, dumbbells and a swiss ball, and I've just finished stage 1 (now on AMRAPs). I was balancing the barbell on kitchen chairs for squats, but it wasn't very stable. We have a large, L-shaped living room, and I have been using the 'round-the-corner' end for working out. For my birthday, my SO has bought me a pair of squat stands, which do the job but they are bigger than we expected, and completely dominate the room now. I suddenly feel very depressed about what is happening to my home - I am very visually oriented, and the sight of all the equipment is really upsetting me. The weights etc were relatively easy to hide away, but the squat stands are just massive and are the final straw somehow. We do not have another room to use (and no basement, no garage), so I am completely stuck. I am very into the program - this isn't any kind of excuse for stopping, in case you were wondering!
Should I just try hard to get used to the equipment, or sell it all (and lose money) or what?!0 -
@MissMaggie:
Is it a closed L? Can you set up some attractive Japanese privacy screens or a curtain?
I'm blessed to have a room that I can devote to lifting. It was a family rec room, and I occasionally suffer pangs of conscience that I have selfishly taken it over. Then, I realized that this is my life now. I never intended to just finish the program; I will lift for life.
If the program will be it for you, just muddle through as best you can...maybe urns of Pampas(?) grass to cover the stands, lol?? But if you plan to do this for a long time, you may need to think about finding or creating a more permanent home for your activity. Or, at worst, revamping the way you think about the appearance of your equipment. A toilet isn't exactly aesthetically pleasing, but most people have one or more, just the same!0 -
I think you are enjoying this program TOO much to quit, missmaggie. Plus, if you quit, then what?? Once you know that heavy-lifting is the right choice, how can you go back to anything else (in good conscience)??
I am very glad I don't work out at home....and maybe this is an insane suggestion....but, can you set yourself up in your yard?? Maybe put a tarp over your things when you aren't working out?? At least for the next 6 months you might be able to get your work-out in the outdoors???
Like you, I wouldn't like the "visual impact" of equipment in my living room - so I TOTALLY get where you are coming from!!
Are there any other lifters in your neighbourhood that you could go to their house and work on their equipment (for a small fee, of course)??0 -
Thanks so much for those suggestions - I really appreciate you taking the time. I do intend to do this in the long term, not just to the end of the program, so quitting isn't an option - it's just a case of where I do it. Privacy screens are feasible, but honestly - my heart sinks when I even contemplate it.
Outdoors would be too, too embarrassing, as we have a lot of houses overlooking our garden (plus it is a beautiful garden overlooked by french windows, so visually it would be even worse!). I don't even know anyone else in the area, as we haven't lived here long, but I doubt anyone has their own gym - most houses are as small as ours.
I can only think of two other things; get rid of the bed in the spare room (which means nowhere for friends and family to sleep when they visit!), or sell the stuff, hurt my SO's feelings in the process, and join the gym. Oh, one more - win the lottery and buy a mansion with its own gym. Hey, I like that one!0 -
Thanks so much for those suggestions - I really appreciate you taking the time. I do intend to do this in the long term, not just to the end of the program, so quitting isn't an option - it's just a case of where I do it. Privacy screens are feasible, but honestly - my heart sinks when I even contemplate it.
Outdoors would be too, too embarrassing, as we have a lot of houses overlooking our garden (plus it is a beautiful garden that we see from the kitchen and living area through french windows, so visually it would be even worse!). I don't even know anyone else in the area, as we haven't lived here long, but I doubt anyone has their own gym - most houses are as small as ours.
I can only think of two other things; get rid of the bed in the spare room (which means nowhere for friends and family to sleep when they visit!), or sell the stuff, hurt my SO's feelings in the process, and join the gym. Oh, one more - win the lottery and buy a mansion with its own gym. Hey, I like that one!0 -
Just got home from the gym - Day 2, Stage 1, Workout B. Great workout!!!! I need to watch some videos because I felt like my deadlifts were awkward looking lol. Not totally sure I was doing them correctly. Not really a huge fan of lunges (I should say me knees weren't, lol). Overall though, I feel awesome!
I decided to just up my calories on lift days, rather than using my HRM to log calories. I still wear it, but only to keep track of my rest periods. We'll see how doing this works out for me. I've been manually changing my daily calories each day, which seems to work out fine for me so far.
Hope everyone is doing well - I am so glad to be doing this, enjoying it so far!!! :happy:
I did WO B, stage 1 today for the first time, too! Oh my gosh, it kicked my butt! I don't know what my deal was today, but I thought I was going to get sick. I don't normally get like that. I had trouble getting all the reps in on the deadlifts and lunges, too. I felt like such a weakling!
Both days I've done the workouts I have felt like I was hit by a truck by mid-afternoon. (I workout in the morning.). Someone, please tell me this gets better. I just want to go to bed now.0 -
I did WO B, stage 1 today for the first time, too! Oh my gosh, it kicked my butt! I don't know what my deal was today, but I thought I was going to get sick. I don't normally get like that. I had trouble getting all the reps in on the deadlifts and lunges, too. I felt like such a weakling!
Both days I've done the workouts I have felt like I was hit by a truck by mid-afternoon. (I workout in the morning.). Someone, please tell me this gets better. I just want to go to bed now.
Sounds like you are giving it a great effort!
The first stage is conditioning. These are maybe new moves, or the first time you've done them with really challenging weights. You should feel somewhat depleted after a workout, but not destroyed. If you are totally blown-out, shaking and sick, back off on the intensity a little and focus on perfect form. And make sure you are getting some good protein shortly after! I like a protein shake, and whole grain toast with peanut butter to restore my energy.
Don't get discouraged. Your body is well-equipped to handle what you are asking of it. You may need to tweak your nutrition, or modify some moves at first. We all did. Even after some time in the program, we all have had "off" days; stress, TOM, illness, what-have-you. Hang in there!0 -
missmaggie - I like the "win the lottery" suggestion....
jessica - I echo what jarrett said.
I actually think "sleeping better" is one of the MOST excellent things about weight-training!! Stress release!! Power!! STRENGTH!!
My goodness, I could go on-and-on....lost inches!! smaller clothing sizes!! long-term health benefits!! anti-frailty!!0 -
Hi All! I just started Stage 1 on Monday and thought that I did not push myself hard enough, until I tried to do my regular 10K run on Tuesday and could not make it up the hill. My legs are killing me today and I am feeling it a bit in my abs too. I am both excited and nervous for tonight's workout.
My main concern at this point is the fact that I have a 10k race on Saturday and two more (4.2mi and 5K) races in April that I have already paid for. I am not going to stop or postpone this though. I just have to be ok if I do not improve on my PR in these upcoming races.0 -
I can only think of two other things; get rid of the bed in the spare room (which means nowhere for friends and family to sleep when they visit!), or sell the stuff, hurt my SO's feelings in the process, and join the gym. Oh, one more - win the lottery and buy a mansion with its own gym. Hey, I like that one!
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MissMaggie--I'd have a hard time with squat racks in my living room, too. Could you put them in the spare room, in place of the bed--and get a good-quality air mattress or two for your guests? Maybe you could push the weight equipment to one end of the room when you have visitors? It makes more sense to me to truly use and enjoy the rooms you have--all the time--instead of keeping them for occasional visitors....0
