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Grumble grumble grumble.
My back started acting wonky during this morning's workout. I've done so well so far preventing further injury, and I work hard on form, even going lighter on weight just to protect my back. (I have an old herniated L4/L5, some degeneration, and some very mild scoliosis.). I am MAD. Flat out, plain old MAD. It isn't bad, but I am feeling it want to catch. I cut out my last set of RDLs, which I do in place of regular deadlifts. I also had to drop the reverse lunges and did planks instead of the ab stuff.
Yesterday was my first day of physical therapy for my hip.
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NO panic, allowed, jnh. None.
suelegal - the numbers I posted were comparing end-of-June measurements to end-of-July measurements. Period. I do have my measurements from end-of-Dec (when I started NROL4W), and I can go and compare what has happened over that 7 month period, if you'd like.
I can say this....I am down 2 lbs. from Dec. to now. That is *it*. NROL4W is NOT a "weight-loss program". If what you seek is lost weight, this is NOT the program for you - I promise! (Unless, of course, you are overweight/obese to begin with, or were a non-exerciser to begin with....then I think there might be some weight loss along the way, too.)
This is a program about "changing your shape".
My shape HAS changed. That is seriously obvious in the pictures I have taken of myself. I have chosen not to post them on mfp....but, maybe I will once the Dec/11 - Dec/12 period has passed. We shall see!
No Beeps, I was trying to remember when you said you'd measured the last time, that's all hun. The program is seriously about changing shape! Mine has already and I'm not even finished Stage 1! I hope the flabby stuff firms up, cuz I really don't like that stuff, but I'm really afraid it won't.
I was to do S1 7A this morning but I was out with the girls last night and got home late, so I opted for the extra hour of sleep. Glad I did, too, I would have been grumpypants on 5 hrs of sleep! I'll do 7A tomorrow. Maybe that will give hubs the time to get the bench etal moved out.0 -
Jess, I hope that back of yours eases! You ARE too young for that stuff!0
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Ladies - back away from the scales!!!! :laugh: Honestly though, it is frustrating to have the scale not move where you want it, but just remember why you are doing this in the first place. It's about changing your body.
Jess - Hope your back gets better soon. Getting older really does suck! My hips and knees are constantly cracking and popping and making all kinds of great noises (this is especially great in a quiet yoga room). Thankfully I don't have any injuries, but arthritis and degenerative discs run in the family so I'm hoping that lifting will help keep everything together.
Sue - there have been many mornings over the last couple months that I have chosen sleep over a workout. It's definitely worth it in my book.0 -
Sue, the winner of the 6-month-ladies challenge (Jan - June) that I participated in - on JP Fitness Forum, is 57. She looked "normal" (to me) when she started in January....maybe fleshy around the middle. By June, she looked ROCK HARD and, standing sideways, her waist was maybe 2" thick....not kidding. So, I have NO doubt that you will tighten up EVERYTHING, now that you are focused and determined.
I did my 9th Stage 7 work-out. 3 more and I am DONE with NROL4W.0 -
Only ONE more BWM to do!
That's all.0 -
Only ONE more BWM to do!
That's all.
You are SOOOOO lucky! I still have 2 in this stage, and 4 more the next time around. Good for you!0 -
Hey Ladies,
I just wanted to share some awesome news: I did my first ever body weight chin up last week! I've been so excited that every chance I get, I walk outside, grab a tree limb, and do another one. I definitely credit this ability due to this program and the strength gains in my back.
Also, yesterday, I said "I'm going to try a pull up" (I.e. palms facing away instead of towards my face). And guess what, I did it! Pull ups and chin ups have been huge goals of mine since forever. The only two goals I have left are 1.5 body weight deadlift and body weight squat. I feel confident that I'm moving in the right direction.
HUZZAH!!!0 -
Wow!! That's stupendous! I so hope to follow in your footsteps!0
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Hey Ladies!
CTA! That is the most awesomest story ever. Both pullup and chinup! GO YOU. I was able to do pullups when I did p90x, but it's been soooo long it seems very much beyond me. I hope I can get those suckers back, because nothing sexies up the back like those bad mamajamas!
Beeps, I'm excited for you! 3 more! 3 more!
...i probably have like 100 bwms left. I don't even want to look. Miserable things. Delightful things. Oi. I can't decide.
I'm a little chagrined about squats these days as I saw a woman who.. probably weighed 135 nailing 245lb squats. Her warmup is literally laughing at my 1 rep max.
I couldn't remember what I was missing in my workout (didn't bring a sheet, just my notebook), so I did squats (I was missing the arm up, arm down squat, so not too shabby. I probably blocked that awkward thing out) I also did regular bench instead of DB incline because the gym was busy as bejesus.
Got a squat PR, but it doesn't seem so awesome when I realize that my new 6 rep is that woman's bodyweight. Urrrrgh.0 -
FunBun, it just goes to show you lifting doesn't make you huge, if a little thing can lift that much! Also- build up to it. Progs like stronglifts have you increasing squats by 2kg each time, 3 times a week, it's totally possible!
I found the 48kg and 53kg categories of the women's lifting in the olympics a bit humbling, with their warm up weights for overhead stuff being more than my deadlift....
ctacoronti- that is some unexpected awesomeness! I think we all hope to suddenly do that soon.
I'm supposed to do WO3 of my 2nd run thru of stage 7 tonight, but there's so much olympics on it's messing with my sched, and i'm staying up too late. I'll probably do it tomorrow pm when i have more time. Cycling in front of the TV is a good alternative!
I'm am confused by my body composition progress, I am not much changed in weight, maybe 1 or 2 lbs down (this is good, maintenance) and I know i have more muscle, so it stands to reason that I have less fat- not really seeing it. Can't wait to take some pics and measurements in a couple of weeks and get an independent view.0 -
Hey Ladies,
I just wanted to share some awesome news: I did my first ever body weight chin up last week! I've been so excited that every chance I get, I walk outside, grab a tree limb, and do another one. I definitely credit this ability due to this program and the strength gains in my back.
Also, yesterday, I said "I'm going to try a pull up" (I.e. palms facing away instead of towards my face). And guess what, I did it! Pull ups and chin ups have been huge goals of mine since forever. The only two goals I have left are 1.5 body weight deadlift and body weight squat. I feel confident that I'm moving in the right direction.
HUZZAH!!!
High five lady! That's beast mode!0 -
I am such a happy camper! I did squats today in my very own SQUAT RACK!!! WOOHOO!!!! I stayed at 50 cuz man after doing them the other way, this is very awkward! But I know I will bump up faster now! I am so excited! FunBun, I'm just ignoring what you said about that little woman and presuming she's been lifting for her entire life! I will get there, well I want to get there and that's the first step right?
Jen I know I'm way behind you but I sort of feel the same way. Everyone says wow you look grea etc (and I LOVE it)t and I know my body is changing - I'm much stronger and generally more energetic. But I see all that fat that still lays at my waist, arms and my thighs, even my calves. It's so hard to be patient! I keep reminding myself that it took me 25 years to grow all that lovely fatty flab, it's not going to turn to muscle overnight. :sigh:
So I was looking ahead to Stage 2, and reaslized I'm already doing HIIT. I just need to increase the time I do it. I start out every workout with 10 min on the bike. And here I was all freaked out about it. So do you do HIIT on the same days you lift? Seems to me it would be more beneficial to do it on off days but not sure if that's his intent.
Beeps, here me cheering you on to the finish line!! Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
Hope you all have a spectacular Friday and weekend!0 -
Wow, some GREAT news on the thread, today!
Congrats on the pull-ups/chin-ups to CTA.
TheFunBun, if you use petite-musclehead for inspiration, it's a good thing. You are WELL on your way, believe me!
Jen - olympics are messing wih my schedule, too.
sue - if you are *already* getting compliments from people, and you are still in Stage 1, I say HOO-RAY, because something is already working really, really well for you. Keep it up and it's cool to do HIIT throughout (I did) NROL4W.0 -
So I was looking ahead to Stage 2, and reaslized I'm already doing HIIT. I just need to increase the time I do it. I start out every workout with 10 min on the bike. And here I was all freaked out about it. So do you do HIIT on the same days you lift? Seems to me it would be more beneficial to do it on off days but not sure if that's his intent.
Yep, optimum is right after you lift, if you have it in you. I'm not sure of the science, but it seems more beneificial to do it like that and have a day off following. Of course life happens and most of the time I ran out of time and did it the next day, but for fitness there are some solid arguments for HIIT right after lifting.
Good score on the squat rack!0 -
I am puny ladies (tom) and barely have the energy to type.
Hopefully, next week I'll be back to my crazy encouraging self.0 -
So I was looking ahead to Stage 2, and reaslized I'm already doing HIIT. I just need to increase the time I do it. I start out every workout with 10 min on the bike. And here I was all freaked out about it. So do you do HIIT on the same days you lift? Seems to me it would be more beneficial to do it on off days but not sure if that's his intent.
Yep, optimum is right after you lift, if you have it in you. I'm not sure of the science, but it seems more beneificial to do it like that and have a day off following. Of course life happens and most of the time I ran out of time and did it the next day, but for fitness there are some solid arguments for HIIT right after lifting.
Good score on the squat rack!
Yes, right after lifting is best -- not that I did it after lifting the entire length of Stage 4 but the next day is a million times better than nothing!
Manic - it's great being a female sometimes, huh?
I'm in the middle of my rest week and it's been great!!!!!!!!!!0 -
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it's fantastic ! Awesome! Amazing!
UGH! One thing for sure, being a female means I am always right so I'll take a few days of blahs
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My back is feeling better today. I'll do my workout, although I might make some extra modifications just to be safe.
I've been thumbing thru Rachel's book and the NROL4A book, trying to decide what to do next. I want to lose these blasted 10lbs. I also am feeling really discouraged about my body. Not just the extra fat, but my capabilities. :-/0 -
Workout done with a few modifications. Only one more workout and I'm on to stage 5!0
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Is anyone else totally lost in a maze of olympics? I'm feeling like all i do is sleep/work/eat/watch olympics!! At work I have the live text running from BBC with all the updates, and at home it's on my tv all the time. My workouts are now in front of the tv!
My husband has probably given up on me, luckily we're working different shifts. Poor fella. He's tried to get into it, but just not that interested...
In other news, I'm halfway thru my 2nd go at stage 7, fewer reps, more weight for me.
Keep lifting, gals.0 -
Jessica, I logged on here to say I received my NROL4Abs today . That will be my next program and then on to Rachel's book. I feel ya, I need to lose 15 pounds of fat.
yay! Jen and I will have company over in the stage 5 thread. I have 3 more workouts in stage 5.0 -
Jen-- that's about all I've done, too. The Olympics are really messing with my sleep, too! I'm staying up later than I need to be.
Mary-- I haven't decided what I want to do next. I have both books next to me right now. I need to read thru them. I am leaning toward the abs book. But whatever I pick, it needs to be something that will be safe for and helpful for my back.0 -
I skimmed through NR abs book and not impressed. Seems like I will need to add considerable amount of cardio to the program.
I am a little confused. Does anyone know if I do A and B workout in each phase 6 -8 times EACH or a total of 6-8 workouts per phase?0 -
http://muscleevo.net/how-deep-should-you-squat/
Pretty good article on squat form. Don't have time to read thru everything now so will be back later.0 -
http://muscleevo.net/how-deep-should-you-squat/
Pretty good article on squat form. Don't have time to read thru everything now so will be back later.
Interesting. I'll be sure to check my back arch in the mirror! Not sure I agree that squatting above parallel is still good, other sources claim this will create knee imbalances due to using front muscles (quads) more than back (butt/hammies). I tend to aim for parallel or just below. Can't seem to manage A2G (even with lower weight) without losing form.0 -
http://muscleevo.net/how-deep-should-you-squat/
Pretty good article on squat form. Don't have time to read thru everything now so will be back later.
Thank you for posting that link. I'm struggling with my squat form right now. If I try to go A2G I also lose form. I'm only on Stage 1 but I was upping my squat weights until I realized that I wasn't going deep enough and my form was not very good. I have dropped the weights back, but just in time for the workouts to go up to 3 sets which is still hard! LOL!0 -
Thanks for the article Jennie.
I had my husband video tape my dead lifts the other day to improve my form b/c I was afraid my form was what hurt my back last week. Def. helps to see your self I hope to the do the same w/my squats tomorrow (even if I have to ask someone else at the gym to do it for me...gasp!!) 0 -
I pulled up Rachel Cosgrove's website to see if there was a discussion forum. There is, but you have to pay for a membership. It's like, $90+ a month. :frown: Sigh. I was hoping to find a group somewhere to talk to people who have actually done her program.0
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Is anyone else totally lost in a maze of olympics? I'm feeling like all i do is sleep/work/eat/watch olympics!! At work I have the live text running from BBC with all the updates, and at home it's on my tv all the time. My workouts are now in front of the tv!
Grrr. I wish. I've tried to watch it online, but it seems like there aren't enough hours in the day. I just want to watch lady powerlifting.. and maybe some beach volleyball so I can complain about my glutes.
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As far as squat flexibility, I think most of us women have the ability to keep good spinal posture while going A2G. My husband is always told how flexible he is in his army PT, but aside from touching his toes, he looks ridiculously stiff to me. If most men think he's flexible, I bet those suckers are holding onto their quads while doing hamstring stretches. Articles like that are probably written for men like that.
....how is the Rachel Cosgrove book, though?
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Also, I'm not fazed about the petite lifter anymore. I keep thinking, if that tiny little thing can lift 245, my AMAZON sized self will probably be squatting cars before the end of next year. One quarter at a time, though. I'll be ECSTATIC if I can make 200 lbs by this year.0
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