TDEE - What is it and why you should not eat below your BMR
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There is no way I can eat 2263 cals or even 1923cals/day. I have a hard time eating 1700 that MFP says. I'm good if I can eat 1200. I can't eat a lot of peanuts or cashews and such as they make me swell.
There is no such thing as can't:-) It is amazing the things that you can put together to hit your numbers....think about the things you like to eat and other things that have a bit more fat that you put to the side...you can take in 120 cals by consuming a whole tbls of coconut oil...it is excellent for you and MCT oil that has many benefits...Olive oil the same cals... One dose of either in the morning is 120 cals...
There are sooo many more calorie dense foods you can eat to get them in. Seems like many have started a great list here. There are some other great threads as well on it.0 -
There is no way I can eat 2263 cals or even 1923cals/day. I have a hard time eating 1700 that MFP says. I'm good if I can eat 1200. I can't eat a lot of peanuts or cashews and such as they make me swell.
There is no such thing as can't:-) It is amazing the things that you can put together to hit your numbers....think about the things you like to eat and other things that have a bit more fat that you put to the side...you can take in 120 cals by consuming a whole tbls of coconut oil...it is excellent for you and MCT oil that has many benefits...Olive oil the same cals... One dose of either in the morning is 120 cals...
There are sooo many more calorie dense foods you can eat to get them in. Seems like many have started a great list here. There are some other great threads as well on it.
Yes you are correct there is no can't.......I tell that to my kids all the time!
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There is no way I can eat 2263 cals or even 1923cals/day. I have a hard time eating 1700 that MFP says. I'm good if I can eat 1200. I can't eat a lot of peanuts or cashews and such as they make me swell.
There is no such thing as can't:-) It is amazing the things that you can put together to hit your numbers....think about the things you like to eat and other things that have a bit more fat that you put to the side...you can take in 120 cals by consuming a whole tbls of coconut oil...it is excellent for you and MCT oil that has many benefits...Olive oil the same cals... One dose of either in the morning is 120 cals...
There are sooo many more calorie dense foods you can eat to get them in. Seems like many have started a great list here. There are some other great threads as well on it.
Yes you are correct there is no can't.......I tell that to my kids all the time!
Are you saying to down some oil?
In my beginning with eating more...it was HARD...I had to think of some new ways to provide good healthy calories...one of the things that I didn't get enough of was good FATS...so I sure did...I would in the morning take a tbls of coconut oil, then drink something or eat something right behind it. One a day eats up 120 cals...I don't do that anymore because I am used to eating, so I am back to finding ways to get volume because I tend to want to eat more than my cut...lol!0 -
My TDEE 1975. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1677)...
My BMR is 1443.
So 1677 is my calorie goal on days that I don't work out?
And on days that I do workout 1975 is my calorie goal?
Also, do I set my carbs to 40% protein to 30% and fat to 30%?
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I have to say, Holy crow!! MFP had me consuming 1440 calories per day and eating back my exercise points. When I caculated my TDEE it was 2440. That means I should be eating around 2100 or so calories not including my exercise calories! I am in shock!!! No wonder I have been hovering in the same range. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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I have to say, Holy crow!! MFP had me consuming 1440 calories per day and eating back my exercise points. When I caculated my TDEE it was 2440. That means I should be eating around 2100 or so calories not including my exercise calories! I am in shock!!! No wonder I have been hovering in the same range. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your TDEE has your exercise calories factored in, so just eat the 2100 and continue the workouts you entered when you calculated your TDEE. Even on rest days, I've been told, you need to eat your number of 2100, everyday!!!!0 -
All this math is making my brain hurt... I wish I was joking... :explode:
I went to fitnessfrog.com and got my BMR and TDEE's... BMR is 1695 and TDEE is 2331. There is NO WAY I can up my calorie intake to 1695 (from 1400). I have a hard enough time eating even 1300 cals per day, if I don't exercise. If I eat 1400 without exercise, I feel like I ate entirely too much. Even when I exercise, I still keep it real close to 1400, MAYBE 200 over. I have no clue what to do here. I'm so frustrated. I've been eating better since December (cut out fast food and soda's -I would eat fast food sometimes 3-4x per week, now it's maybe 3x per month, if that much-, and eat when I'm hungry and not just for the sake of eating, and drink about 50 oz of water per day). I also roller skate at least 2hrs per week, sometimes up to 4hrs. I have a fitbit which shows that I'm burning cals, walking, climbing stairs, 'exercising' without actually exercising. I also walk about 4 miles per week, sometimes more if I can. I know it's not a lot, but compared to before December, this is a HUGE change in my lifestyle. Since I've made all these changes, my weight hasn't gone anywhere. When I ate fast food and drank nothing but soda, ate candy bars, and didn't even consider exercising, I was at 160 lbs (I'm 207 right now). What gives? I can understand the fact that THEN I was eating more calories (which makes sense in the 'eat more, weigh less' idea) but it wasn't healthy food... Does this make ANY sense? Because it sure doesn't to me............................ ::head/wall::0 -
So, I lost enough weight to refigure it all...
My BMR is now at 1685
So, I set my calorie goal to 2000. (My TDEE is still up in 2500+ somewhere)
I'm also doing a workout plan that I got from nerdfitness.com
Lots of weights, bodyweight exercises, kettlebells, and cool nerdy stuff...
Today, though, I feel bloated. I think it's "that time"... sigh.0 -
All this math is making my brain hurt... I wish I was joking... :explode:
I went to fitnessfrog.com and got my BMR and TDEE's... BMR is 1695 and TDEE is 2331. There is NO WAY I can up my calorie intake to 1695 (from 1400). I have a hard enough time eating even 1300 cals per day, if I don't exercise. If I eat 1400 without exercise, I feel like I ate entirely too much. Even when I exercise, I still keep it real close to 1400, MAYBE 200 over. I have no clue what to do here. I'm so frustrated. I've been eating better since December (cut out fast food and soda's -I would eat fast food sometimes 3-4x per week, now it's maybe 3x per month, if that much-, and eat when I'm hungry and not just for the sake of eating, and drink about 50 oz of water per day). I also roller skate at least 2hrs per week, sometimes up to 4hrs. I have a fitbit which shows that I'm burning cals, walking, climbing stairs, 'exercising' without actually exercising. I also walk about 4 miles per week, sometimes more if I can. I know it's not a lot, but compared to before December, this is a HUGE change in my lifestyle. Since I've made all these changes, my weight hasn't gone anywhere. When I ate fast food and drank nothing but soda, ate candy bars, and didn't even consider exercising, I was at 160 lbs (I'm 207 right now). What gives? I can understand the fact that THEN I was eating more calories (which makes sense in the 'eat more, weigh less' idea) but it wasn't healthy food... Does this make ANY sense? Because it sure doesn't to me............................ ::head/wall::
Hey lady, I have some news...you are not to eat 1695, you must eat your TDEE - 15%...so that is a bit over 2000...please use a calculator...
Yep, if you want to lose weight, get your body to trust you, you have to fuel it while maintaining a smaller deficit. I know it sounds crazy, I know you THINK you can't eat that much...but neither did I. Since nothing else worked, guess what???? I learned to eat and now enjoy it. When you eat, you can't fathom how you EVER survived on any less. Your body becomes a well fueled calorie burning machine.0 -
My TDEE 1975. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1677)...
My BMR is 1443.
So 1677 is my calorie goal on days that I don't work out?
And on days that I do workout 1975 is my calorie goal?
Also, do I set my carbs to 40% protein to 30% and fat to 30%?
Thanks for creating this post.
Recalculate your tdee using MODERATE...eat that minus 15% EVERY SINGLE DAY...on workout days, ONLY eat more IF you are under BMR...eat to NET at least BMR:-)0 -
I have to say, Holy crow!! MFP had me consuming 1440 calories per day and eating back my exercise points. When I caculated my TDEE it was 2440. That means I should be eating around 2100 or so calories not including my exercise calories! I am in shock!!! No wonder I have been hovering in the same range. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TDEE includes your exercise cals...so just subtract 15% and eat that every single day. If you burn high one day, then make sure to at least net BMR0 -
I have done the calculations and this is the result:
BMR- 1666
TDEE- 2206
TDEE-15%-- 1867
I have been eating 1500 since Feb and have lost 10lbs. I am working out (cardio and circuit training?) 3-5 days a week.
I 'eat back' 3/4 of my exercise. Since starting to work out, I do feel better. But increasing my caloric intake scares me to death.
I do have another 50lbs to lose.
Do you suggest just jumping into eating the calories or slowly adding them into your diet?
I use the macros 40/30/30
And what do i enter into MFP or do i ignore what it says at the bottom of my food diary? Or do i manually increase my daily goal? Do I ignore the fact that I will be 'over' my cals?
Can you look over this and tell me what you think/ Thanks0 -
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I have done the calculations and this is the result:
BMR- 1666
TDEE- 2206
TDEE-15%-- 1867
I have been eating 1500 since Feb and have lost 10lbs. I am working out (cardio and circuit training?) 3-5 days a week.
I 'eat back' 3/4 of my exercise. Since starting to work out, I do feel better. But increasing my caloric intake scares me to death.
I do have another 50lbs to lose.
Do you suggest just jumping into eating the calories or slowly adding them into your diet?
I use the macros 40/30/30
And what do i enter into MFP or do i ignore what it says at the bottom of my food diary? Or do i manually increase my daily goal? Do I ignore the fact that I will be 'over' my cals?
Can you look over this and tell me what you think/ Thanks
Eat your cut value everyday. Change mfp to reflect cut, add your exercise but ignore the total cals. Make sure to hit your prot and fat macros daily and when you workout check your homepage net cals to be sure you over at or over bmr.0 -
My TDEE 1975. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1677)...
My BMR is 1442.
So 1677 is my calorie goal on days that I don't work out?
And on days that I do workout 1975 is my calorie goal?
Also, do I set my carbs to 40% protein to 30% and fat to 30%?
Thanks for creating this post.
Recalculate your tdee using MODERATE...eat that minus 15% EVERY SINGLE DAY...on workout days, ONLY eat more IF you are under BMR...eat to NET at least BMR:-)
This is my new calculation using MODERATE:
TDEE 2235. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1899 to round it up 1900)...
So I need to eat 1900 every single day.
If I excercise eat 2235 on that day?
What do you mean by net? I see it on some of the other posts but not really sure how to comprehend it.
"on workout days, ONLY eat more IF you are under BMR...eat to NET at least BMR"
Thanks again because I've been trying to understand this thing for 2 months...
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Hi, I've just joined your group. I have recently been increasing my calories and have used the Fat2fit radio calculations so hope it's still ok to join in
That has me eating at my goal weight allowance of between 1800 & 2000 calories a day depending if I want to trust myself with the activity levels. I've just this week increased to 1800 a day.
I've used the fitnessfrog calculators and my figures on there are
BMR 1357
TDEE 2103 (moderate)
so TDEE - 15% = 1787
So it look like the figures are more or less the same)
I'm going to stick at 1800 for a week or two and see how it goes - only eating back exercise calories is I fall below 1357 net.
I have to tell you I'm in week 11 of MFPing and since the first 3 weeks at 1200 I feel so so so much better. Less crabby and I hope nice to live with! I feel better health wise, I'm losing weight slowly but surely, my skin is better (no breakouts in the last few weeks) and I'm not bloating and in pain in the week leading up to 'that' time of the month. So woop woop!0 -
Bumping to read when I get more time. I got the Fat2Fit book and I'm in the process of reading it now.
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Hi,
I had to come on again this week and thank everyone for the support. I am still unable to train due to injury, although now i have been told i might need to see a podiatrist rather than just a physio. Last week i mentioned i had been eating 1900 cals approx a day and i was a little surprised when i lost .5lb without training at all.
Well this week I am sorta stunned, i felt that i had lost weight, just by my clothes, but when i checked my weight today i had lost 2lbs! i nearly fell off the scales, i checked on 2 sets just to be sure!
So thanks for the great advice of not changing the amount and sticking with it, it really worked! What surprised me the most is yes i have lost weight, but it's fat i have lost because my muscle mass has actually increased by .3% and the fat % has decreased.
Not sure how, the closest i got to weights was to move em out the way whilst i cleaned!
SO i am going to allow myself a little treat today upto 300cals extra, i did that last sunday, those 10 minstrels and 2 glasses of wine really out the spot!
I am off to plan my cheat meal, Thanks 0 -
Hi,
I had to come on again this week and thank everyone for the support. I am still unable to train due to injury, although now i have been told i might need to see a podiatrist rather than just a physio. Last week i mentioned i had been eating 1900 cals approx a day and i was a little surprised when i lost .5lb without training at all.
Well this week I am sorta stunned, i felt that i had lost weight, just by my clothes, but when i checked my weight today i had lost 2lbs! i nearly fell off the scales, i checked on 2 sets just to be sure!
So thanks for the great advice of not changing the amount and sticking with it, it really worked! What surprised me the most is yes i have lost weight, but it's fat i have lost because my muscle mass has actually increased by .3% and the fat % has decreased.
Not sure how, the closest i got to weights was to move em out the way whilst i cleaned!
SO i am going to allow myself a little treat today upto 300cals extra, i did that last sunday, those 10 minstrels and 2 glasses of wine really out the spot!
I am off to plan my cheat meal, Thanks
You gave me a good chuckle, glad you didn't fall off the scale we need you all healed up:-) That is just awesome.0 -
My TDEE 1975. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1677)...
My BMR is 1442.
So 1677 is my calorie goal on days that I don't work out?
And on days that I do workout 1975 is my calorie goal?
Also, do I set my carbs to 40% protein to 30% and fat to 30%?
Thanks for creating this post.
Recalculate your tdee using MODERATE...eat that minus 15% EVERY SINGLE DAY...on workout days, ONLY eat more IF you are under BMR...eat to NET at least BMR:-)
This is my new calculation using MODERATE:
TDEE 2235. Subtract 15% (you get a cut of 1899 to round it up 1900)...
So I need to eat 1900 every single day.
If I excercise eat 2235 on that day?
What do you mean by net? I see it on some of the other posts but not really sure how to comprehend it.
"on workout days, ONLY eat more IF you are under BMR...eat to NET at least BMR"
Thanks again because I've been trying to understand this thing for 2 months...
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Ok eat 1900 everyday and only if you burn more than 450 do you eat the excess above 450. See when you burn 4500 you will be at a net calorie of your bmr, so a burn of 600 means your 150 below your bmr, so to get you back to net bmr you would need to eat the 150.0 -
Thanks for posting this, really interesting.
So, if my cut figure is 1803, and BMR 1611, just eat 1803 each day and never net less than 1611? That easy?0 -
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Thanks for posting this, really interesting.
So, if my cut figure is 1803, and BMR 1611, just eat 1803 each day and never net less than 1611? That easy?
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Thanks for posting this, really interesting.
So, if my cut figure is 1803, and BMR 1611, just eat 1803 each day and never net less than 1611? That easy?
You got it!
Thanks so much, I'll give it a go! 0 -
Hi, could someone please check my workings out for me (thank you so much). Still trying to get my head around eating more.....
I'm 37years (female)
height 5 '2
weight 160 pounds/72kg
I worked out:
BMR 1456
TDEE 2002
TDEE - 15% = 1700
Soooooooo I eat 1700 on non workout days, and on workout days around my BMR. Sorry I have read so many posts on this thread I've got myself confused.
Thank you so much for your help.0
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