The mythical "ideal partner" (?)

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  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    Based on your quote, there’s no reason to feel sorry for the typical 30 year old woman getting ignored by 30 year old men. The 30 year old woman would likely reject the 30 year old man, instead focusing her efforts on 33-37 year old men. A good looking 30 year old woman without kids is still going to have plenty of options, especially online. Her inbox will still be full, and all she’ll have to do is pick the best one of many options. That would at least be the common perception amongst men.

    Age is the biggest advantage a woman has when it comes to selecting her life partner. I cannot even begin to describe how much of an advantage a 22 year old has over a 35 year old woman in the dating game. It's just another one of those pesky biological preferences that us men have.

    However, this is why I have zero sympathy for older women who say men are ageist and only want to date younger women. In my experience, women who have this attitude either squandered their youth by dating jerks with no future or just didn't focus on dating at time of their life. Either way, they essentially wasting some of the best years of their lives. Before everyone jumps on me, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

    But, I look at my female friends and most of them had many opportunities to date when they were younger. Most could have been out with a different guy every night of the week. Knowing this, a lot of them became incredibly jaded and picky and wouldn't give most decent guys the time of day. As the years go on, the men get fewer and fewer. Until one day, they go months and months without getting much male attention.

    Then I have the (dis)pleasure of listening to them complain about how all men only go for younger women. Unreal.

    I will agree with you to a point, and accept myself as an exception. I understand the truly single, never married men going after younger women. That's to be expected and I rarely talk with men that don't have kids unless they pursue me.

    My issue is when divorced dads my age (mid-30s) would rather go for women in their 20s because they're more fun and don't have the baggage. But, really why is my baggage any different than his? If I up my age range to 40-43, they don't want a commitment because my kids are young.

    That said...there are exceptions to this as well....
  • 4themoney
    4themoney Posts: 797 Member
    what's interesting, sad even maybe, is that the male physical ideal naturally occurs ( often) in teenage girls........ which is why there are guys that go after teenage girls.

    they are just finishing up puberty, everything is tight, and perky, and right where it should be. if they haven't had sex yet, or started pills, things might be even "better". once you have sex your body can change. once you start the pill, your body can change.

    then you're not as desirable. often when you get pregnant your body becomes even less desirable because your hips have widened and your breast might lose some perkiness.......

    so, really the ideal is a girl that is not yet even legal, or might be legal but you can't even go have a drink with them..... combine that with the fact that most guys want women to be relatively hair free "down there"........ which is why i won't give guys that are focused on things like " the ideal woman/ physique, etc." the time of day. it kinda makes me feel sick. i would prefer a man that actually likes the body of a women, and not a girl.

    some women naturally look like teenage girls for the rest of their lives, but others are made to feel like THAT is what we should all look like. and women work damn hard to obtain it, and maintain it if they ever get there.......... i like the ladies that realize they don't need to look like that :-)
  • 4themoney
    4themoney Posts: 797 Member
    i've tried dating various age groups, with our without kids, divorced, never married, etc. i've met a lot of guys that want to "just have fun." and none that are really all that interested in a relationship. i've just come to expect it now. and once they realize that i'm not gonna just have sex with them, they walk away, disappear, etc. and i'm ok with that too.

    i want to buy a "farm" that is for sale by my house. i think i need to just put myself into my kids and projects and work. i try and get males to understand WHY it's kinda depressing to know that i'm good enough for sex, but not good enough for an actual relationship. i think they think that because they want to have sex with me, i must be honored or flattered or something. i usually say thanks, but i'm not the girl for you then. i might be flattered, but i'm not honored and i'm not interested.

    it could be my age, it could be my kids, i don't know. and i'm past the point of really even caring :-) it just is what it is.......
    I will agree with you to a point, and accept myself as an exception. I understand the truly single, never married men going after younger women. That's to be expected and I rarely talk with men that don't have kids unless they pursue me.

    My issue is when divorced dads my age (mid-30s) would rather go for women in their 20s because they're more fun and don't have the baggage. But, really why is my baggage any different than his? If I up my age range to 40-43, they don't want a commitment because my kids are young.

    That said...there are exceptions to this as well....
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member
    i've tried dating various age groups, with our without kids, divorced, never married, etc. i've met a lot of guys that want to "just have fun." and none that are really all that interested in a relationship. i've just come to expect it now. and once they realize that i'm not gonna just have sex with them, they walk away, disappear, etc. and i'm ok with that too.

    i want to buy a "farm" that is for sale by my house. i think i need to just put myself into my kids and projects and work. i try and get males to understand WHY it's kinda depressing to know that i'm good enough for sex, but not good enough for an actual relationship. i think they think that because they want to have sex with me, i must be honored or flattered or something. i usually say thanks, but i'm not the girl for you then. i might be flattered, but i'm not honored and i'm not interested.

    it could be my age, it could be my kids, i don't know. and i'm past the point of really even caring :-) it just is what it is.......
    I will agree with you to a point, and accept myself as an exception. I understand the truly single, never married men going after younger women. That's to be expected and I rarely talk with men that don't have kids unless they pursue me.

    My issue is when divorced dads my age (mid-30s) would rather go for women in their 20s because they're more fun and don't have the baggage. But, really why is my baggage any different than his? If I up my age range to 40-43, they don't want a commitment because my kids are young.

    That said...there are exceptions to this as well....

    OK, someone needs to hear a truthful male opinion. I put all women into three separate categories: women I want absolutely nothing to do with, women I want to have sex with, and women I want a relationship with (and have sex with).

    Sounds like you are falling into the "women I want to have sex with" category more often than not. This could be due to many factors. Maybe it's your kids, maybe they are holding out for someone hotter, maybe they genuinely dislike your personality but still want to have sex with you, who knows..?
  • 4themoney
    4themoney Posts: 797 Member
    oh i already know that. that's not news to me :-) i am blunt, and i ask point blank questions. i have no problem asking men questions that might seem sensitive in nature.

    the interesting thing, these same guys won't leave me alone. i don't have sex with them. but, they keep coming back. the longest any of them go without contacting me, cuz i don't contact them, is about 2 weeks...... LOL!!! there is not booty calling because well, we don't "booty call." it's all very interesting.

    since i don't need a man, i don't worry about it. i can get myself off more and faster than any guy out there, and i figure out how to do most things without a man around. i used to be mildly hurt by the fact that guys want to have sex with me. but, now, i really don't care. i just tell them straight up, it's not gonna happen, like EVER.......... :-)
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    OK, someone needs to hear a truthful male opinion. I put all women into three separate categories: women I want absolutely nothing to do with, women I want to have sex with, and women I want a relationship with (and have sex with).

    Women have these categories as well, but there's also a "(wo)men I want to be around but not have sex with" (Platonic).
  • 4themoney
    4themoney Posts: 797 Member
    yup yup!! there are plenty of guys out there that i will only be friends with. and then there are guys that i want to have sex with. i will never be the FWB type because if we are friends and i see you as "just a friend" i will never be able to have sex with you......

    aquarius women are weird when it comes to these things. i can be very detached when it comes to sex, but once you're in the friend zone i will never be able to be intimate with you. it just won't ever happen. this is where my three strikes rule comes into play a lot......

    Women have these categories as well, but there's also a "(wo)men I want to be around but not have sex with" (Platonic).
  • pa_jorg
    pa_jorg Posts: 4,404 Member
    Many (not all) men go for younger women, but I find very few women who get hung up on a partner's age unless it is significantly different from their own. So, why do men assume women want the same things they want (i.e. the guy wants younger, so the woman MUST want older...)? Huh?

    Guys learn very early on that being the older one helps out. You don't forget when you are 18-19 and your 18-19 female peers are going after 21-25 year olds.

    that's because most 18/19 year old guys are dumb a$$es. unfortunately for a variety of reasons guys tend to emotionally and socially mature later than girls

    Thats because the guys over 21 will buy you alcohol. DUH!

    First, Mesha & Ruth both have valid reasons for to explain this behavior.
    Second, DM, you are talking about the way teenage girls impact how men deal with women...apples and oranges my friend. So because teenager girls want to be part of the in-crowd and hang with older guys, you assume that is true into adulthood? Personally I don't think that is the case and any man who ONLY looks for younger women will be missing out on a lot of amazing women due to something really superficial like a birthday.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I "squandered" my best chances of getting a good husband by focusing on my health, career, imagination, issues, balance, cooking skills, understanding sports, traveling, pissing off an entire religious network, moving all over the country practicing being stable in an unstable situation, forming and keeping a budget and sense of self instead of being boy crazy and trying beg a man to give me a goddamn ring so I can change my status to married on facebook. I regret this daily. When Im standing naked in front of a smoking hot man close-ish to my age, all he sees is my age... which is a huge turn off for him... I mean... there's so much wrong with me or else I'd already be married. The same goes for the other 3 and a half million single chicks in NYC.
  • DMZ_1
    DMZ_1 Posts: 2,889 Member
    Many (not all) men go for younger women, but I find very few women who get hung up on a partner's age unless it is significantly different from their own. So, why do men assume women want the same things they want (i.e. the guy wants younger, so the woman MUST want older...)? Huh?

    Guys learn very early on that being the older one helps out. You don't forget when you are 18-19 and your 18-19 female peers are going after 21-25 year olds.

    that's because most 18/19 year old guys are dumb a$$es. unfortunately for a variety of reasons guys tend to emotionally and socially mature later than girls

    Thats because the guys over 21 will buy you alcohol. DUH!

    First, Mesha & Ruth both have valid reasons for to explain this behavior.
    Second, DM, you are talking about the way teenage girls impact how men deal with women...apples and oranges my friend. So because teenager girls want to be part of the in-crowd and hang with older guys, you assume that is true into adulthood? Personally I don't think that is the case and any man who ONLY looks for younger women will be missing out on a lot of amazing women due to something really superficial like a birthday.

    One word: precedent. Behaviors in the early years set the precedent going forward. Guys learn early on that there's a female preference for older men. If we are smart, we adapt to what women want based on behavior. Behavior is who they typically hook up with and stay with. Usually that's the older guy. That's playing the percentages and that's a wise course of action.

    A lot of guys are put off by taller women on account of precedent as well. There's a well known precedent that tall women want even taller guys. This is another thing that is usually discovered early in life. Guys of equivalent heights know that playing the percentages means that a shorter woman is going to perceive them better, so it is better to focus efforts on significantly shorter women.
  • pa_jorg
    pa_jorg Posts: 4,404 Member
    Many (not all) men go for younger women, but I find very few women who get hung up on a partner's age unless it is significantly different from their own. So, why do men assume women want the same things they want (i.e. the guy wants younger, so the woman MUST want older...)? Huh?

    Guys learn very early on that being the older one helps out. You don't forget when you are 18-19 and your 18-19 female peers are going after 21-25 year olds.

    that's because most 18/19 year old guys are dumb a$$es. unfortunately for a variety of reasons guys tend to emotionally and socially mature later than girls

    Thats because the guys over 21 will buy you alcohol. DUH!

    First, Mesha & Ruth both have valid reasons for to explain this behavior.
    Second, DM, you are talking about the way teenage girls impact how men deal with women...apples and oranges my friend. So because teenager girls want to be part of the in-crowd and hang with older guys, you assume that is true into adulthood? Personally I don't think that is the case and any man who ONLY looks for younger women will be missing out on a lot of amazing women due to something really superficial like a birthday.

    One word: precedent. Behaviors in the early years set the precedent going forward. Guys learn early on that there's a female preference for older men. If we are smart, we adapt to what women want based on behavior. Behavior is who they typically hook up with and stay with. Usually that's the older guy. That's playing the percentages and that's a wise course of action.

    A lot of guys are put off by taller women on account of precedent as well. There's a well known precedent that tall women want even taller guys. This is another thing that is usually discovered early in life. Guys of equivalent heights know that playing the percentages means that a shorter woman is going to perceive them better, so it is better to focus efforts on significantly shorter women.

    I just wish people were more open and accepting of others and not rush to a stereotype so quickly. Again, I get we all have preferences, but to base what a woman will do on a teenage brain doesn't help any of us move forward if that makes sense. And this could also be said in reverse of a woman assuming something of a man...just going off your initial post in how I phrased this.
  • dbrightwell1270
    dbrightwell1270 Posts: 1,732 Member
    The more I see other's expectations, the less picky I think I am. I've spent a great deal of time not really knowing what I was looking for. I wen so long without any dates that I had no idea what I liked/wanted. It sort of baffles me to see some of the lists/criteria/expectations/whatever you want to call it that some people have. I think my list is simple in comparison:

    Between 35ish perhaps a little younger and 44 perhaps a little older. Any younger seems to be either immature, too much of a party girl, and/or has young kids and doesn't have time to date. Any older seems to just look old to me (no offense to any ladies in here older than that).

    Is capable of holding an intelligent conversation.

    Is able to be spontaneous and a bit of a goof.

    Has any issues with an ex-husband reasonably well resolved.

    Has time to date more than once every two weeks when the ex has the kids.

    understands (can tolerate) my sarcasm and sense of humor.

    is somewhat physically active.

    legs/butt/breast look nice in a pair of jeans/shirt. Do not read this as rail thin or pin up girl hot. It just means that she is not obese to the point that she has problems sitting in chairs with arm rests, fat rolls that are visible when dressed in every day attire, or boobs that sag excessively.

    likes to get out of the house but isn't a party girl who needs to be out late drinking every night.

    likes to have sex on a regular basis and doesn't have a lot of hang ups/insecurities that makes her want me to constantly prove myself or make it feel like I have to beg for it.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I've spent a great deal of time not really knowing what I was looking for. I went so long without any dates that I had no idea what I liked/wanted

    Between 35ish perhaps a little younger and 44 perhaps a little older. Any younger seems to be either immature, too much of a party girl, and/or has young kids and doesn't have time to date. Any older seems to just look old to me (no offense to any ladies in here older than that).

    According to the logic on this board, you wasted too much time not being in a relationship in your early twenties and are now required to settle for women between 30 and 50 (instead of choosing from the prime meats under thirty) and pretend like its your first choice LOLOL
  • DMZ_1
    DMZ_1 Posts: 2,889 Member
    Age is the biggest advantage a woman has when it comes to selecting her life partner. I cannot even begin to describe how much of an advantage a 22 year old has over a 35 year old woman in the dating game. It's just another one of those pesky biological preferences that us men have.

    However, this is why I have zero sympathy for older women who say men are ageist and only want to date younger women. In my experience, women who have this attitude either squandered their youth by dating jerks with no future or just didn't focus on dating at time of their life. Either way, they essentially wasting some of the best years of their lives. Before everyone jumps on me, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

    But, I look at my female friends and most of them had many opportunities to date when they were younger. Most could have been out with a different guy every night of the week. Knowing this, a lot of them became incredibly jaded and picky and wouldn't give most decent guys the time of day. As the years go on, the men get fewer and fewer. Until one day, they go months and months without getting much male attention.

    Then I have the (dis)pleasure of listening to them complain about how all men only go for younger women. Unreal.

    Agree.

    The blog that got shared around last week had a good post on this topic. (http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2012/01/dont-let-guy-waste-your-most-eligible.html )

    I am typically going out with and dating women around 25. These women at peak, and they know it.

    I think, as does the author of the post I'm linking to, that the best mates are found earlier than later. Staying single too long is detrimental (for both men and women) but the male curve is more forgiving. The incentive for men to commit earlier is to get someone at peak, and before the dating pool thins too much.
  • dbrightwell1270
    dbrightwell1270 Posts: 1,732 Member
    I've spent a great deal of time not really knowing what I was looking for. I went so long without any dates that I had no idea what I liked/wanted

    Between 35ish perhaps a little younger and 44 perhaps a little older. Any younger seems to be either immature, too much of a party girl, and/or has young kids and doesn't have time to date. Any older seems to just look old to me (no offense to any ladies in here older than that).

    According to the logic on this board, you wasted too much time not being in a relationship in your early twenties and are now required to settle for women between 30 and 50 (instead of choosing from the prime meats under thirty) and pretend like its your first choice LOLOL

    Well F-me. I hate my life.

    FWIW, I weighed over 400 pounds most of my late 20's up until I was 39 or I probably would have gone after a girl in her 20s (at the younger end of that spectrum). Even by the age of 32 though, I was spending time on college campuses and my only thought was these girls are fun to look at but damn are they clueless, shallow, and/or petty.
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    i've tried dating various age groups, with our without kids, divorced, never married, etc. i've met a lot of guys that want to "just have fun." and none that are really all that interested in a relationship. i've just come to expect it now. and once they realize that i'm not gonna just have sex with them, they walk away, disappear, etc. and i'm ok with that too.

    i want to buy a "farm" that is for sale by my house. i think i need to just put myself into my kids and projects and work. i try and get males to understand WHY it's kinda depressing to know that i'm good enough for sex, but not good enough for an actual relationship. i think they think that because they want to have sex with me, i must be honored or flattered or something. i usually say thanks, but i'm not the girl for you then. i might be flattered, but i'm not honored and i'm not interested.

    it could be my age, it could be my kids, i don't know. and i'm past the point of really even caring :-) it just is what it is.......
    I will agree with you to a point, and accept myself as an exception. I understand the truly single, never married men going after younger women. That's to be expected and I rarely talk with men that don't have kids unless they pursue me.

    My issue is when divorced dads my age (mid-30s) would rather go for women in their 20s because they're more fun and don't have the baggage. But, really why is my baggage any different than his? If I up my age range to 40-43, they don't want a commitment because my kids are young.

    That said...there are exceptions to this as well....

    OK, someone needs to hear a truthful male opinion. I put all women into three separate categories: women I want absolutely nothing to do with, women I want to have sex with, and women I want a relationship with (and have sex with).

    Sounds like you are falling into the "women I want to have sex with" category more often than not. This could be due to many factors. Maybe it's your kids, maybe they are holding out for someone hotter, maybe they genuinely dislike your personality but still want to have sex with you, who knows..?

    Luckily, there are exceptions to this as I am talking to a great man now. Yes, I have had quite a few men that would have preferred being FWB vs a relationship. I'm not interested in that kind of relationship, so I passed on them quickly. As to my personality.....ouch. All I can say to that is thanks for the input.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member

    First, Mesha & Ruth both have valid reasons for to explain this behavior.
    Second, DM, you are talking about the way teenage girls impact how men deal with women...apples and oranges my friend. So because teenager girls want to be part of the in-crowd and hang with older guys, you assume that is true into adulthood? Personally I don't think that is the case and any man who ONLY looks for younger women will be missing out on a lot of amazing women due to something really superficial like a birthday.

    One word: precedent. Behaviors in the early years set the precedent going forward. Guys learn early on that there's a female preference for older men. If we are smart, we adapt to what women want based on behavior. Behavior is who they typically hook up with and stay with. Usually that's the older guy. That's playing the percentages and that's a wise course of action.

    Boys will never stop shoving a finger up their butt, refusing to wash their hands before leaving the bathroom, picking their boogers and eating them, dropping bugs in your food and pretending to like you cause its hilarious entertainment for them and their homeboys later. This and all the atrocious mean spirited things that teenaged boys used to do while learning from trial and error how to transition into adulthood - WILL NEVER STOP. They will NEVER mature. They will NEVER understand social expectations. They will NEVER become self-aware. THIS IS A FACT.

    BECAUSE:
    Behaviors in the early years set the precedent going forward.

    ALSO
    A lot of guys are put off by taller women on account of precedent as well. There's a well known precedent that tall women want even taller guys. This is another thing that is usually discovered early in life. Guys of equivalent heights know that playing the percentages means that a shorter woman is going to perceive them better, so it is better to focus efforts on significantly shorter women.

    Sorry- I think you meant to write

    "There's a well known precedent that men want significant others that are shorter than they are, so women have been taught to only be attracted to men that are taller than them and it is this way around because it was only in the last 50 years where women could even conceive of being allowed to choose their significant other. Men have always chosen and therefore it was they who set all precedents in dating."

    Also - because guys who are 5'8" say effed up sht when a tall girl crawls on top during sex, like "OMG Go easy on me, Im just a little guy" and you lose your lady boner and want to go cry cause short guys never miss an opportunity to call you huge.

    Edited to fix quotes
  • poncho33
    poncho33 Posts: 1,511
    Yoovie, you are so hot I would grow a penis just by being around you.

    lol... I think this should get comment of the day!!
  • _JR_
    _JR_ Posts: 830 Member

    Luckily, there are exceptions to this as I am talking to a great man now. Yes, I have had quite a few men that would have preferred being FWB vs a relationship. I'm not interested in that kind of relationship, so I passed on them quickly. As to my personality.....ouch. All I can say to that is thanks for the input.

    WHAT?!?!?! I thought I was the ONLY ONE!!! :noway: :grumble:


















    :tongue:
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
    Even by the age of 32 though, I was spending time on college campuses and my only thought was these girls are fun to look at but damn are they clueless, shallow, and/or petty.

    I just graduated college and I tell ya a lot of the stuff I did then but look at now, I'm just like WTF I was weird. I had so much fun but it was very immature at times. No way could I date a college student and I'm 22. It's just such a different mindset.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I've spent a great deal of time not really knowing what I was looking for. I went so long without any dates that I had no idea what I liked/wanted

    Between 35ish perhaps a little younger and 44 perhaps a little older. Any younger seems to be either immature, too much of a party girl, and/or has young kids and doesn't have time to date. Any older seems to just look old to me (no offense to any ladies in here older than that).

    According to the logic on this board, you wasted too much time not being in a relationship in your early twenties and are now required to settle for women between 30 and 50 (instead of choosing from the prime meats under thirty) and pretend like its your first choice LOLOL

    Well F-me. I hate my life.

    FWIW, I weighed over 400 pounds most of my late 20's up until I was 39 or I probably would have gone after a girl in her 20s (at the younger end of that spectrum). Even by the age of 32 though, I was spending time on college campuses and my only thought was these girls are fun to look at but damn are they clueless, shallow, and/or petty.

    I spent my early twenties relearning how to walk and recovering from being smeared across a highway. I spent the second half of my twenties losing the 100+ pounds I put on and trying to get my life back. Before I knew what happened, I was 30. So I lose forever. I missed my chance and should give up.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Age is the biggest advantage a woman has when it comes to selecting her life partner. I cannot even begin to describe how much of an advantage a 22 year old has over a 35 year old woman in the dating game. It's just another one of those pesky biological preferences that us men have.

    However, this is why I have zero sympathy for older women who say men are ageist and only want to date younger women. In my experience, women who have this attitude either squandered their youth by dating jerks with no future or just didn't focus on dating at time of their life. Either way, they essentially wasting some of the best years of their lives. Before everyone jumps on me, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

    But, I look at my female friends and most of them had many opportunities to date when they were younger. Most could have been out with a different guy every night of the week. Knowing this, a lot of them became incredibly jaded and picky and wouldn't give most decent guys the time of day. As the years go on, the men get fewer and fewer. Until one day, they go months and months without getting much male attention.

    Then I have the (dis)pleasure of listening to them complain about how all men only go for younger women. Unreal.

    Agree.

    The blog that got shared around last week had a good post on this topic. (http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2012/01/dont-let-guy-waste-your-most-eligible.html )

    I am typically going out with and dating women around 25. These women at peak, and they know it.

    I think, as does the author of the post I'm linking to, that the best mates are found earlier than later. Staying single too long is detrimental (for both men and women) but the male curve is more forgiving. The incentive for men to commit earlier is to get someone at peak, and before the dating pool thins too much.

    Divorce rates would disagree with you. Statistically people that marry before the age of 27 end up divorced far more than people that wait until their late twenties.

    Also, anyone that has peaked at 25 is pathetic. I'll say it. Get a life.
  • poncho33
    poncho33 Posts: 1,511
    lady boner

    Phrase of the day.
  • DMZ_1
    DMZ_1 Posts: 2,889 Member
    Age is the biggest advantage a woman has when it comes to selecting her life partner. I cannot even begin to describe how much of an advantage a 22 year old has over a 35 year old woman in the dating game. It's just another one of those pesky biological preferences that us men have.

    However, this is why I have zero sympathy for older women who say men are ageist and only want to date younger women. In my experience, women who have this attitude either squandered their youth by dating jerks with no future or just didn't focus on dating at time of their life. Either way, they essentially wasting some of the best years of their lives. Before everyone jumps on me, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

    But, I look at my female friends and most of them had many opportunities to date when they were younger. Most could have been out with a different guy every night of the week. Knowing this, a lot of them became incredibly jaded and picky and wouldn't give most decent guys the time of day. As the years go on, the men get fewer and fewer. Until one day, they go months and months without getting much male attention.

    Then I have the (dis)pleasure of listening to them complain about how all men only go for younger women. Unreal.

    Agree.

    The blog that got shared around last week had a good post on this topic. (http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2012/01/dont-let-guy-waste-your-most-eligible.html )

    I am typically going out with and dating women around 25. These women at peak, and they know it.

    I think, as does the author of the post I'm linking to, that the best mates are found earlier than later. Staying single too long is detrimental (for both men and women) but the male curve is more forgiving. The incentive for men to commit earlier is to get someone at peak, and before the dating pool thins too much.

    Divorce rates would disagree with you. Statistically people that marry before the age of 27 end up divorced far more than people that wait until their late twenties.

    Also, anyone that has peaked at 25 is pathetic. I'll say it. Get a life.

    Twisting my words. Someone who married in their late 20s, as you suggest, found their mate in their mid 20s. There's usually a number of years that elapse from the first date until walking down the aisle.
  • pa_jorg
    pa_jorg Posts: 4,404 Member
    Amen Yoovie and Kits... you ladies rock! :drinker:
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Age is the biggest advantage a woman has when it comes to selecting her life partner. I cannot even begin to describe how much of an advantage a 22 year old has over a 35 year old woman in the dating game. It's just another one of those pesky biological preferences that us men have.

    However, this is why I have zero sympathy for older women who say men are ageist and only want to date younger women. In my experience, women who have this attitude either squandered their youth by dating jerks with no future or just didn't focus on dating at time of their life. Either way, they essentially wasting some of the best years of their lives. Before everyone jumps on me, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

    But, I look at my female friends and most of them had many opportunities to date when they were younger. Most could have been out with a different guy every night of the week. Knowing this, a lot of them became incredibly jaded and picky and wouldn't give most decent guys the time of day. As the years go on, the men get fewer and fewer. Until one day, they go months and months without getting much male attention.

    Then I have the (dis)pleasure of listening to them complain about how all men only go for younger women. Unreal.

    Agree.

    The blog that got shared around last week had a good post on this topic. (http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2012/01/dont-let-guy-waste-your-most-eligible.html )

    I am typically going out with and dating women around 25. These women at peak, and they know it.

    I think, as does the author of the post I'm linking to, that the best mates are found earlier than later. Staying single too long is detrimental (for both men and women) but the male curve is more forgiving. The incentive for men to commit earlier is to get someone at peak, and before the dating pool thins too much.

    Divorce rates would disagree with you. Statistically people that marry before the age of 27 end up divorced far more than people that wait until their late twenties.

    Also, anyone that has peaked at 25 is pathetic. I'll say it. Get a life.

    Twisting my words. Someone who married in their late 20s, as you suggest, found their mate in their mid 20s. There's usually a number of years that elapse from the first date until walking down the aisle.

    Missing my point. But I've made it so many times it's starting to become rote. Basically just go back and read my other responses.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Amen Yoovie and Kits... you ladies rock! :drinker:

    Is it weird that I'm fangirling a bit to be compared to the awesomeness that is Yoovie? :love: :blushing:
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Twisting my words. Someone who married in their late 20s, as you suggest, found their mate in their mid 20s. There's usually a number of years that elapse from the first date until walking down the aisle.

    i call BS. leading the jury. stating uneducated guess as fact for an entire demographic.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Raise your hand if you cant wait for whathisproblem to turn thirty-three and nom on his words for the rest of his thirties?
  • DMZ_1
    DMZ_1 Posts: 2,889 Member
    Also - because guys who are 5'8" say effed up sht when a tall girl crawls on top during sex, like "OMG Go easy on me, Im just a little guy" and you lose your lady boner and want to go cry cause short guys never miss an opportunity to call you huge.

    When has this happened?

    I am open to women of a wide variety of heights. I find tall women attractive and I've never called a tall woman 'huge'. That is just inconsiderate.