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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    http://youtu.be/3ddUotSxgDk

    Please critique Pendlay row. Thanks all

    Looks fine to me. Keep that back solid and flat. Really try to launch that bar off the ground with an explosive movement. It will become more important as the weight gets heavier :)
  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
    http://youtu.be/3ddUotSxgDk

    Please critique Pendlay row. Thanks all

    Nothing really wrong with your form from a mechanical point of view, but this is a cross between a Pendlay row and a bent over row. One of the key features of the Pendlay row is that it is an explosive concentric exercise. The fact that you are doing this under constant tension (controlling the weight on the way down and not pulling from a dead stop) makes it a little more like a bent over row.

    FWIW, as a beginner lifter I'd say bent over rows are better for you than Pendlay rows as it will have a slightly better growth stimulus (or you could rotate between the two styles depending on your training setup). I'd recommend a bit more angle in your torso though (about 45 degrees rather than 90 degrees) if you are going to do a bent over row.

    To continue doing Pendlay style, just focus on exploding the weight up, then dropping it down to a dead stop (deadlift style).
  • smittybuilt19
    smittybuilt19 Posts: 955 Member
    Thank you both for the feedback!
  • DYELB
    DYELB Posts: 7,407 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
    ???
    Pendlays are to be performed quickly and explosively without sacrificing form.
  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
    ???
    Pendlays are to be performed quickly and explosively without sacrificing form.

    This is true, Pendlay rows are explosive. Designed to build power, not a controlled movement focusing on contraction and control. Think of it more as a power lifting movement than a bodybuilding one.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
    ???
    Pendlays are to be performed quickly and explosively without sacrificing form.

    This is true, Pendlay rows are explosive. Designed to build power, not a controlled movement focusing on contraction and control. Think of it more as a power lifting movement than a bodybuilding one.

    Agreed.
  • smittybuilt19
    smittybuilt19 Posts: 955 Member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFTtr-lzKkY&feature=youtu.be

    In a hurry today, had 15 minutes to complete OHP and DL. Please critique DL. Thanks folks!
  • DYELB
    DYELB Posts: 7,407 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
    ???
    Pendlays are to be performed quickly and explosively without sacrificing form.

    This is true, Pendlay rows are explosive. Designed to build power, not a controlled movement focusing on contraction and control. Think of it more as a power lifting movement than a bodybuilding one.

    Agreed.

    I'd suggest trying it controlled and comparing it to doing so explosively. I know Pendlay says to do so fairly explosively.

    ETA: This is why I started lifting this way, and stuck with it because I liked how it felt better than using the lift as a power movement - http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2012/11/post-on-pendlays.html
  • DYELB
    DYELB Posts: 7,407 Member
    Pendlays should be slow and controlled.

    Get a good squeeze at the top.

    Don't go heavy.

    You're working the muscles, not moving weight.
    ???
    Pendlays are to be performed quickly and explosively without sacrificing form.

    This is true, Pendlay rows are explosive. Designed to build power, not a controlled movement focusing on contraction and control. Think of it more as a power lifting movement than a bodybuilding one.

    Agreed.

    I'd suggest trying it controlled and comparing it to doing so explosively. I know Pendlay says to do so fairly explosively.

    ETA: This is why I started lifting this way, and stuck with it because I liked how it felt better than using the lift as a power movement - http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2012/11/post-on-pendlays.html

    Had a side conversation with sidesteel on this, and I need to rethink my stance on these. For now I'd say go with the advice of the other folks.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFTtr-lzKkY&feature=youtu.be

    In a hurry today, had 15 minutes to complete OHP and DL. Please critique DL. Thanks folks!

    I can tell you're in a hurry, you're fidgeting like a 5 year old on a sugar high. Stop it! ;)

    Looks mostly fine to me. Weight seems pretty light so if there's form problems they'll probably show up at a heavier weight. Keep working on making that back solid and tight. Don't let the weight surprise you as you start the movement, you should already be tensed up before the weight even moves. Before you even start pulling really.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    I'm posting my own video for review this time. I have been working on sumo DL for about two months and am able to start going with heavier weights instead of light weight for lots of reps. Here is my most recent, 365x10:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIx8T8uYdAk

    Anything obvious to point out?
  • smittybuilt19
    smittybuilt19 Posts: 955 Member
    Thanks Dope, yea not the session I was looking for, rushed and not very focused on form.
  • tomcornhole
    tomcornhole Posts: 1,084 Member
    I'm posting my own video for review this time. I have been working on sumo DL for about two months and am able to start going with heavier weights instead of light weight for lots of reps. Here is my most recent, 365x10:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIx8T8uYdAk

    Anything obvious to point out?

    Looks pretty good to me. As soon as the bar clears your knees, focus on thrusting your hips forward. That makes the lockout easier and more consistent.

    Also, 365x1x10 is awesome. I would be dead at the end of that.

    Tom
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I'm posting my own video for review this time. I have been working on sumo DL for about two months and am able to start going with heavier weights instead of light weight for lots of reps. Here is my most recent, 365x10:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIx8T8uYdAk

    Anything obvious to point out?

    These look solid to me.
  • smittybuilt19
    smittybuilt19 Posts: 955 Member
    Ok, so the fact that the weight is always sliding on the right side of the bar had me concerned so I took a behind/money shot. The rack that I am using does have a very slight tilt in that direction but it seems there is something going on in my squat movement causing the weight to slide more so than the irregularity in the rack. advice please.

    As always, I appreciate your time and comments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naeIPSEFDPs&feature=youtu.be
  • smittybuilt19
    smittybuilt19 Posts: 955 Member
    And if it helps, I generally "feel it" more in my right leg after lifting.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    Everyone has some bias (big or small). I don't see anything bad in that video
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Just stand with feet pointing forward shoulder width apart.

    Bend knees and partial squat, just to get max bend on ankles, so no need for big rear throwback

    Now, if you lean to put weight on either side by itself, does one ankle bend down further than the other?

    That effect could go away when you have toes pointed out with knees following, but then again, maybe not.
    Try that move again in squat stance, and again feel for max bend on ankle, and is it equal on both sides, as you look at mirror and something really vertical?

    I have to put blocks under heels because right ankle isn't as flexible (triple break), and with weight going down I either shifted or stretched something more than it wanted to be.

    So it could just be ankle flexibility, or could be mechanical interference you'll just have to work with.

    Or something entirely different. I don't see it nearly as much as I did on other video, but I guess you really do.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Ok, so the fact that the weight is always sliding on the right side of the bar had me concerned so I took a behind/money shot. The rack that I am using does have a very slight tilt in that direction but it seems there is something going on in my squat movement causing the weight to slide more so than the irregularity in the rack. advice please.

    As always, I appreciate your time and comments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naeIPSEFDPs&feature=youtu.be

    Really doesn't look that obvious to me. Maybe try experimenting before each squat session. One time, try doing an ankle mobility routine and another time, try a hip mobility routine. See if it affects whatever imbalance there is. Everyone has strength imbalances but you might be tighter on one side than the other and it could be throwing off your form slightly. Honestly it looks pretty minimal to me - mine is probably worse (old hip injury on my right side).