Getting Started

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  • garnet116
    garnet116 Posts: 144 Member
    Hi guys! I am new to MFP. I keep hearing about this book and would like to get it.

    Here's my question. Do you recommend the kindle version or the regular book? I am going away on vacation Sat. and could download it to read... however... I usually like to bookmark things to go back to. I know I can do that on Kindle, but just wondering if anyone has the Kindle version your thoughts.

    If I would have thought about it sooner, I would have just purchased the book on Amazon but there's not enough time for it to get here.
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
    hi Garnet - that question was asked a while back and I would have to say that the votes came down on the side of the paper book, but not by a wide margin. You will want to print off excel worksheets for the workouts anyway. If you are a big e-book person, it will probably work just fine.
  • cphaneuf16
    cphaneuf16 Posts: 85 Member
    I bought the paper book after debating the same thing, and am not sure I really needed it. I still take the book with me to the gym, so for that reason, I like the book over the Kindle (wouldn't want anything to happen to my iPad). But, I flip back and forth a billion times and even with dog-eared pages, I think it would be MUCH easier to flip through the Kindle version if you use bookmarks. It would be nice to have access to the book no matter where I am -- on my phone, computer, iPad, etc.

    I like having the paper book, but I don't think it has much of an advantage over the Kindle version, for ME. Really it's just the gym thing.
  • Daresie
    Daresie Posts: 41 Member
    Looking for input on the correct way to do the barbell squat. On p 158 of the book, the 2nd picture shows the gal down to thighs parallel to the floor. On several youtube videos, proper form is shown as going way further - nearly touching the floor. It seems that would put a lot of stress on the hips/knees, of which I need to be careful anyway.

    Appreciate any input on proper form to get the most benefit from this particular exercise!
  • twinsmom7602
    twinsmom7602 Posts: 55 Member
    Hello Ladies! I just ordered the book on my Nook. I would really like the spreadsheets though, seeing how I can't print from the Nook.

    My e-mail is email edited for privacy

    A little about me, my name is Jessica. I am 36, I am married and have twin sons who will be 11 in July. My son Caleb has Cerebral Palsy, and he is my inspiration behind this new journey, as he is not getting any lighter. :) I live in Florida and am a Voluntary Pre-Kindergarten Administrator for 16 classes through out our county, so I am sitting a majority of my day while traveling. I am ready to build some muscle!!!!

    I recently lost 11 lbs and and am my goal weight of 116. I am 5'6.

    Thanks for all the wonderful tips, I am going to start at the beginning of this thread tomorrow.

    :)
  • pinelakecutie
    pinelakecutie Posts: 28 Member
    Hi everyone.

    I just started today and thought I would share some of my mistakes and misadventures.

    1) I completely forgot that I was supposed to rotate between my push-ups and rows. So I did both sets of push-ups one behind the other and the same with the rows. Off to a bad start.

    2) The prone jackknife. Well, I never did get along with these Swiss/balance ball things. Today was no different--at least during the first set when I lost count of my reps because I was too busy trying to stay on top of the ball. I rolled off twice. I rolled forward into a wall the first time (managed to get my elbow down before I hit my head). And I almost killed my Nook the second time because I couldn't move it out of the way fast enough when I rolled sideways.

    I tried to stabilize the ball between two steps. No good. Finally, I realized that I need to wear shorts when I do this exercise so that my skin makes contact with the rubber and holds me in place. So I rolled up my pants and revealed my scarily hairy legs, which I've shaved maybe twice since December. Luckily, I was in my office gym at 5:00 p.m. It was completely dead, but I was praying the cleaning crew wouldn't show up.

    3) After figuring out how to keep my shins on top of the Swiss -balance-ball-of-death, I proceeded to do MORE reps than necessary. I was very unhappy when I realized this. The number "15" was stuck in my head from the previous exercises, so that's what I did.

    4) I didn't eat half of the 131g of protein I was supposed to get today. I can't figure out how the heck I'm going to eat all of that each day I lift. But from what I've read, it should get easier over time as my appetite increases, and I start to develop a routine.

    5) I tried my best to rest for 60 seconds between sets, but I kept losing count because my mind was racing (Was the weight I used on that last exercise heavy enough? Was my form right? How come I'm not more tired? Will I really feel it tomorrow?). I might try using the timer on my phone next time.

    I think that's it. I hope this makes another newbie feel more comfortable about getting started. I hope it's entertaining if nothing else. I definitely enjoyed putting it all down in a post and laughing at myself.

    Happy lifting!:flowerforyou:
  • CharlieBarleyMom
    CharlieBarleyMom Posts: 727 Member
    Finally plucked up the courage to walk into the gym with my printed workout spreadsheet, plus photocopies of the moves for STage 1, put them in front of the poor unsuspecting trainee instructor who was expecting to design a workout for me and say 'this is what I want you to show me'.

    I am about to do the same thing - only my instructor is not unsuspecting because I've contacted him and told him exactly what I want to learn. I cannot 'understand' the exercises from the explanation and pictures - I need someone to show me - that's his job! He knows that already and I am going to copy the pages from a library book since I only own the Kindle version.
  • mssgeni
    mssgeni Posts: 83 Member
    I don't want to start a new thread because the question is pretty stupid, but I need to know somehow... :blushing:

    I bought this book about 3 years ago when I first got interested in weight lifting. Then I moved out of my parent's house and didn't bring the book with me... and now that I want to get back on it nobody can find that book. I don't want to shell out extra money to buy the book because I know it's in there SOMEWHERE but at the same time I need it :[

    Do you guys think that downloading a digital book for my nook will be just as effective? The nook is pretty small :[ (the nook is an ereader, like the kindle)

    EDIT: Derp, I didn't read the top of this page. twinsmom7602, how do you like the nook? Is it just the spreadsheets that give you a problem because you can't print it out?
  • thepinkpacker
    thepinkpacker Posts: 32 Member
    Hi everyone. Brought the book on my kobo...love it. I have been weightlifting for about 8 months...with a trainer for the past two...but I am going to start this program and see if it helps. I am a 155 lbs, 5'6" and wanna get to 130lbs...I am already muscular but I wanna take off the extra fat.
  • BrittanyGQ
    BrittanyGQ Posts: 92 Member
    I don't want to start a new thread because the question is pretty stupid, but I need to know somehow... :blushing:

    I bought this book about 3 years ago when I first got interested in weight lifting. Then I moved out of my parent's house and didn't bring the book with me... and now that I want to get back on it nobody can find that book. I don't want to shell out extra money to buy the book because I know it's in there SOMEWHERE but at the same time I need it :[

    Do you guys think that downloading a digital book for my nook will be just as effective? The nook is pretty small :[ (the nook is an ereader, like the kindle)

    EDIT: Derp, I didn't read the top of this page. twinsmom7602, how do you like the nook? Is it just the spreadsheets that give you a problem because you can't print it out?

    I have it on my Nook, too, and I was able to put it on my iPhone as well, so I always have it conveniently on me! The Nook version is definitely convenient, but the thing I don't like is having to flip through pages upon pages trying to figure out what I need!! Definitely bookmark and highlight all the pages you think you'll have to refer to later! Like for chapter 10, I bookmarked the different stages, then for chapter 11, I highlighted the name of each exercise so I can quickly flip to that page. A bit more work than the paper version, but convenient to have. Also, you can download the training log from the website www.newrulesoflifting.com =)
  • collingmommy
    collingmommy Posts: 456 Member
    hi, I am new to new rules and would like to have some friends also, I am coming from a background of sl 5x5 (have been doing it since feb 1st and my 12 weeks are almost up ) add me, I am a newbie and will need buddies!
  • BrandiBoo84
    BrandiBoo84 Posts: 110 Member
    Thanks for the great tips! Starting today!!!!
  • lambch0ps
    lambch0ps Posts: 79 Member
    Hi-

    Just started today (just joined group - added intro in that section) and the first thing I noticed is that if I am doing it right (did Workout A, Workout 1), which I think I am (read the book, poured over forums, etc.), is that its a very short workout. Does anybody do both workouts A and B or do more reps of either? If not, any reason why one shouldn't? Thanks!
  • suelegal
    suelegal Posts: 1,281 Member
    I didn't add any extra reps and definitely didn't do A & B on the same day. They took me about 40 minutes to start. And I always use a timer!

    I'm just starting Stage 6. And I have my book on my tablet and my phone and my pc. The only thing I don't like is that I cannot print and I think that's the whole book, BUT I have a great place to get individual logs (www.werkit.com) - all you have to do is register, no spam or anything from the site. I also have a great spreadsheet if anyone wants it. It's got macros built into it to calculate the suggested calories and has a tab for each of the workouts as well.
  • lambch0ps
    lambch0ps Posts: 79 Member
    Yes, it takes me about 35 - 40 minutes, but its only 5 exercises, 2 reps each - does not seem like enough but I guess I'll find out!
  • swimmermama
    swimmermama Posts: 526 Member
    Yes, it takes me about 35 - 40 minutes, but its only 5 exercises, 2 reps each - does not seem like enough but I guess I'll find out!

    This is my concern, too. I guess the point is to do a few reps with heavy weights. I'm just starting out too, so we'll see! :)
  • Marcia661
    Marcia661 Posts: 183 Member
    I am brand spanking new lol and a little terrified I don't mind telling you. I am obese (but getting smaller daily) and wish to start Stage 1 next week after I have read the entire book. Am I going to be able to do the required work? Should I be waiting to start until I'm down below 300 lbs?

    Any and all advice is greatly appreciated, and anyone who wants to be friends, please add me.

    What do you think?
  • pearlmullet
    pearlmullet Posts: 81 Member
    Hi! Just joining. I did my first workout on Saturday, was so grateful that the weights area at Y was all but deserted. Fumbled around with my book and my werkit sheet and felt silly, but also awesome. Still sore today, but ready to go try Workout B.

    Should it be totally obvious where the 'Olympic Bar' is? Anyone care to share their starting weight for deadlifts? I'm pretty strong to begin with but also prone to pushing myself too hard. :)
    I didn't add any extra reps and definitely didn't do A & B on the same day. They took me about 40 minutes to start. And I always use a timer!

    I'm just starting Stage 6. And I have my book on my tablet and my phone and my pc. The only thing I don't like is that I cannot print and I think that's the whole book, BUT I have a great place to get individual logs (www.werkit.com) - all you have to do is register, no spam or anything from the site. I also have a great spreadsheet if anyone wants it. It's got macros built into it to calculate the suggested calories and has a tab for each of the workouts as well.

    I would love this, if you'd like to share!
  • laurie41565
    laurie41565 Posts: 64 Member
    Here are a couple spreadsheets that might help with logging as well as calorie requirements.

    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8OgAuIMlsG-TDRKd192c1A1Mkk

    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8OgAuIMlsG-bUNJVGJJaXhvVFE

    I did the first one and it said for weight loss for no workout 1272 cals and for workout 1534. That seems so low to me. Right now I have my cals set to 1763 and I don't eat exercise cals. I don't see how I would have energy at 1534 when I'm lifting. Is this accurate? I'm 48, 5' 3" and 158 lbs and I'm looking to lose fat.
  • pearlmullet
    pearlmullet Posts: 81 Member
    Thank you! That is so, so helpful.
  • candacefausset
    candacefausset Posts: 297 Member
    I joined the group because I want to know more about this. I was seeing random posts through the forum about Nrol4W and as with so much of the lingo here, I had no idea what that meant. So I looked it up and found it on amazon. I haven't purchased it yet as I am flat broke but wanted to do some research in the mean time. I will be looking into the posts here. Hopefully this will work for me as I really want a strong, fit, toned body.
  • kereil
    kereil Posts: 5 Member
    HI everyone! I wanted to ask a few questions for you guys that have been doing this for awhile. Can you successfully do this at home? I'm currently doing Chalean Extreme and am finishing it up soon and am looking for a new workout plan. I lift M, W, F and run on T, Th, Sat. I do have a set of adjustable weights up to 50lbs and I'm pretty sure I have an exercise ball in a closet somewhere. Was wondering about the bar though - is that a necessity or is there a work around for that?

    I'm not a gym member and can't really fit it into my budget and daily commute - and I get up at 4am to work out every day so I'd like to continue that at home if possible. Thanks for any tips ahead of time! I just bought the book and am going to download it on my iPad and get started reading tonight. Thanks again!
  • tiffany484
    tiffany484 Posts: 17
    Sorry if this has been covered before but I don't have time to read 12 pages of posts...

    Anyhooo I started today workout A1 - and it took like 20 minutes. Is that right? 3 workouts a week for 20 minutes and that's it? I feel like I'm missing something. After today I realize I need to up my weight with squats (I was afraid to do too high a weight on my one sketchy knee). Also, I'm pretty much the girl described in the book - 5'4", 140lbs, 30 yrs old (give or take a pound or 2 and a year) and 2000 calories??? Really??? Sorry if I'm skeptical, but 60 minutes of training and increasing my calories by over 3500/wk (after just recently increasing them by 2000/wk) is going to help me lose fat? This seems counterproductive. If you've done this and it worked please share!
  • jnh17
    jnh17 Posts: 838 Member
    Sorry if this has been covered before but I don't have time to read 12 pages of posts...

    Anyhooo I started today workout A1 - and it took like 20 minutes. Is that right? 3 workouts a week for 20 minutes and that's it? I feel like I'm missing something. After today I realize I need to up my weight with squats (I was afraid to do too high a weight on my one sketchy knee). Also, I'm pretty much the girl described in the book - 5'4", 140lbs, 30 yrs old (give or take a pound or 2 and a year) and 2000 calories??? Really??? Sorry if I'm skeptical, but 60 minutes of training and increasing my calories by over 3500/wk (after just recently increasing them by 2000/wk) is going to help me lose fat? This seems counterproductive. If you've done this and it worked please share!

    That's only for the first 4 (I think) workouts. Then you move to have 3 sets instead of 2. The Stage 1 3 set workouts take me about 40 minutes. I wear a HRM and I burn as many calories as I do with a Month 1 Insanity video (did Insanity twice). Stage 2 workouts can bump into the 70 minute range!

    BUT, I try to do my lifts on opposite sides of the gym which means during rests, I'm walking -- not sitting or standing. If you want a longer workout, add some HIIT for 15 minutes on the end of each.

    As for the diet, I'm 5'11 and don't eat 2000 calories a day. If you're wanting to lose weight...you'll have to play around and see what works for you but I did this program last year and people that start it drop like flies because it's a hard program to do and lose.
  • jnh17
    jnh17 Posts: 838 Member
    HI everyone! I wanted to ask a few questions for you guys that have been doing this for awhile. Can you successfully do this at home? I'm currently doing Chalean Extreme and am finishing it up soon and am looking for a new workout plan. I lift M, W, F and run on T, Th, Sat. I do have a set of adjustable weights up to 50lbs and I'm pretty sure I have an exercise ball in a closet somewhere. Was wondering about the bar though - is that a necessity or is there a work around for that?

    I'm not a gym member and can't really fit it into my budget and daily commute - and I get up at 4am to work out every day so I'd like to continue that at home if possible. Thanks for any tips ahead of time! I just bought the book and am going to download it on my iPad and get started reading tonight. Thanks again!

    You **can** workout at home but it's a hard program to do at the house if you're not fully set up like a gym. When you squat at home without a squat rack, you have to pull the weight up and over your head -- if you're doing that, you're more than likely cheating yourself on the actual squat weight. I can squat about 125lbs currently and could never get that over my head.
  • shellfly
    shellfly Posts: 186
    Hi, all. I'm reading my husband's NRoWL, so I don't know how different it is from NRoL4W, but one thing the author talks about in NRoWL is that doing cardio on non-strength days can actually interfere with strength gains. The way he explained it, your body will have to choose between strength and endurance and will likely choose endurance. However, he says that if you do strength and cardio *on the same day*, this won't happen.

    I do try to toss in some cardio post training sessions (usually a fast 1 mile jog), but I don't have much time to spend on it after already spending 45 minutes to an hour on strength. So I've also been doing cardio on off days, ~1 hour of fast walking and some HIIT. I enjoy it, and I didn't feel like it was causing any issues, but now I wonder.

    Do any of you have feedback on this? Maybe even have tested the theory? What is your usual weekly routine, if you don't mind sharing, in terms of how often you strength train and when/if you do other forms of exercise? Is this really only a concern if you're going for high/competition level strength?
  • kereil
    kereil Posts: 5 Member
    You **can** workout at home but it's a hard program to do at the house if you're not fully set up like a gym. When you squat at home without a squat rack, you have to pull the weight up and over your head -- if you're doing that, you're more than likely cheating yourself on the actual squat weight. I can squat about 125lbs currently and could never get that over my head.

    Thanks! I appreciate the answer! I hope at some point I can get to a gym but for now it's just not in the cards. I think I want to try Crossfit at some point too instead of the traditional kind of gym.
  • RunnerElizabeth
    RunnerElizabeth Posts: 1,091 Member
    I'm planning on starting with stage 1 next week after I finish reading through once. Anyway I'm just not really sure what weights to use starting out. I'm guessing for the squats I just use the bar, but what about the rows and step-ups? I feel like I'm just going to be staring at the weights for half an hour without an idea of what I should be doing and then my lunch hour will be over and I'll have to leave.

    What are good starting weights for a reasonably healthy, average sized person?
  • jerzydevil007
    jerzydevil007 Posts: 16 Member
    i just got the book on my kindle and I'm confused.....so i do workout a and workout be for the ones that are for wo 1....I do that 3 days a week and then go on to wo 2 for 3 days a week and then so and so forth?
  • jerzydevil007
    jerzydevil007 Posts: 16 Member
    i just got the book on my kindle and I'm confused.....so i do workout a and workout be for the ones that are for wo 1....I do that 3 days a week and then go on to wo 2 for 3 days a week and then so and so forth?