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  • The_Enginerd
    The_Enginerd Posts: 3,983 Member
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    Thanks Dope, I'll try to get a better side view on my next squat session. The weight does feel centered over my feet, towards the heel, in those lifts.

    In my session this weekend, I tried to keep my back more upright, but in order to keep the weight over my feet and stay balanced and not feel like I am going to fall back, I had to let my knees go farther forward. I always hear to not let your knees go past your toes, so in order to keep my knees back, my butt ends up pretty far back and I have to lean over farther to keep balanced. Would I be okay to let my knees go a couple inches farther forward?

    Yeah I'm not sure where the whole knees-behind-toes thing came from. Where your knees end up, really depends on bar position and your bodily proportions. Stance width too. Wider stance will usually result in knees traveling less. So really, I wouldn't sweat it. Try getting a vid directly from the side and make sure the bar is directly over the middle of your foot, I think that might help. You might just have a weak core/back that is causing you to fall/lean forward, which will just take time to strengthen.

    I'm getting a feeling that a weak core is my problem...

    Here are some videos directly form the side. I can see the bar is too far forward when I am at the bottom of the squat. It is almost over my toes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr21fL3NIA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOoP8PwayE

    Here is one from the next session where I am doing quite a bit less weight and practicing being strict with my form. I am still going a bit forward sometimes, but it looks a lot better to me. For this set, I am lifting my toes up and concentrating on pushing through my heels and keeping my back up. Even though it wasn't much weight in comparison, it really kicked my *kitten*.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Dmnfur8Gc

    My initial thought is to deload from where I was to a point where I can maintain strict form and work my way back up. Sound reasonable? Other thoughts/feedback?
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    Thanks Dope, I'll try to get a better side view on my next squat session. The weight does feel centered over my feet, towards the heel, in those lifts.

    In my session this weekend, I tried to keep my back more upright, but in order to keep the weight over my feet and stay balanced and not feel like I am going to fall back, I had to let my knees go farther forward. I always hear to not let your knees go past your toes, so in order to keep my knees back, my butt ends up pretty far back and I have to lean over farther to keep balanced. Would I be okay to let my knees go a couple inches farther forward?

    Yeah I'm not sure where the whole knees-behind-toes thing came from. Where your knees end up, really depends on bar position and your bodily proportions. Stance width too. Wider stance will usually result in knees traveling less. So really, I wouldn't sweat it. Try getting a vid directly from the side and make sure the bar is directly over the middle of your foot, I think that might help. You might just have a weak core/back that is causing you to fall/lean forward, which will just take time to strengthen.

    I'm getting a feeling that a weak core is my problem...

    Here are some videos directly form the side. I can see the bar is too far forward when I am at the bottom of the squat. It is almost over my toes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr21fL3NIA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOoP8PwayE

    Here is one from the next session where I am doing quite a bit less weight and practicing being strict with my form. I am still going a bit forward sometimes, but it looks a lot better to me. For this set, I am lifting my toes up and concentrating on pushing through my heels and keeping my back up. Even though it wasn't much weight in comparison, it really kicked my *kitten*.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Dmnfur8Gc

    My initial thought is to deload from where I was to a point where I can maintain strict form and work my way back up. Sound reasonable? Other thoughts/feedback?

    Sounds like a good plan to me. I forget if I already asked this but are you doing the valsalva maneuver properly to keep a tight core? It could be a matter of technique as much as actual core strength. But yes, weak abs, weak lower back will definitely let you fall forward at the bottom of a squat. It takes time to make the whole body work in unison. A lot of time.
  • Mikej77
    Mikej77 Posts: 112
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi7QklPjQM#t=0

    Sorry about the angle and range, small basement.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi7QklPjQM#t=0

    Sorry about the angle and range, small basement.

    Hey Mike,

    I would re-shoot this and see if you can just get someone to sit down, and film it from the side view.
  • Mikej77
    Mikej77 Posts: 112
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    That's what I thought, there is no way to get a side view, I'm going to have to rotate my rack 90 degrees to get better videos.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi7QklPjQM#t=0

    Sorry about the angle and range, small basement.

    From what I can see in the the extreme close-up shakycam action, it looks mostly fine to me. Nothing glaring but a good angle from a steady position might show more :P
  • Mikej77
    Mikej77 Posts: 112
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    I would like any tips about squat, it is starting to get much heavier and want to correct poor form before I add any more weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dmYFWP3M8


    I know that this is bad, my back is not as straight as it should be and I do not seem to be going low enough at the start. Any other feedback would be helpful
    http://youtu.be/UT6D5YcKloA
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    I would like any tips about squat, it is starting to get much heavier and want to correct poor form before I add any more weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dmYFWP3M8


    I know that this is bad, my back is not as straight as it should be and I do not seem to be going low enough at the start. Any other feedback would be helpful
    http://youtu.be/UT6D5YcKloA

    You need to drive your hips forward more on deadlift lockout and try spreading your squat stance 1-2 inches.
  • Mikej77
    Mikej77 Posts: 112
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    I would like any tips about squat, it is starting to get much heavier and want to correct poor form before I add any more weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dmYFWP3M8


    I know that this is bad, my back is not as straight as it should be and I do not seem to be going low enough at the start. Any other feedback would be helpful
    http://youtu.be/UT6D5YcKloA

    You need to drive your hips forward more on deadlift lockout and try spreading your squat stance 1-2 inches.

    ok I always wondering on stance on squat, not sure I understand the hips forward on deadlift. could you explain a little more?
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    I would like any tips about squat, it is starting to get much heavier and want to correct poor form before I add any more weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dmYFWP3M8


    I know that this is bad, my back is not as straight as it should be and I do not seem to be going low enough at the start. Any other feedback would be helpful
    http://youtu.be/UT6D5YcKloA

    You need to drive your hips forward more on deadlift lockout and try spreading your squat stance 1-2 inches.

    ok I always wondering on stance on squat, not sure I understand the hips forward on deadlift. could you explain a little more?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Vqw31TzPQ is a decent video (not the best but the first I found)

    Think about trying to hump the bar.
  • danimalkeys
    danimalkeys Posts: 982 Member
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    I would like any tips about squat, it is starting to get much heavier and want to correct poor form before I add any more weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dmYFWP3M8


    I know that this is bad, my back is not as straight as it should be and I do not seem to be going low enough at the start. Any other feedback would be helpful
    http://youtu.be/UT6D5YcKloA

    Get your head up. Look more forward. Your head and hips should move together, this will keep your back flat and help prevent your hips from shooting up and forcing you into that rounded back position.
  • MrGonzo05
    MrGonzo05 Posts: 1,120 Member
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    Form critique request (squat)

    http://youtu.be/FkxWg5rxGqA
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    Form critique request (squat)

    http://youtu.be/FkxWg5rxGqA

    Looks pretty excellent to me. Depth looks very close, perhaps just shy of parallel but only just, IMO.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Form critique request (squat)

    http://youtu.be/FkxWg5rxGqA

    1) wft is that 'in out' in the background :tongue:

    2) would like to see it from behind (not perving....honest :wink: )

    3) try to break your hips a little earlier

    4) depth may be a little shy on a couple - but only a smidge and it could be the angle (also, I tend to think depth is shy more than most so it could just be me)

    5) on your first rep, you start with your knees bent a bit too much from what I could see - much less so on your other reps.

    6) this is more a personal thing, but I would try to be a bit more assertive when at the top - push you hips forward a bit more forcefully to straighten out.

    7) The above are pretty minor points tbh. Other than that, looked solid
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
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    It is hard to tell, but it looks like you weren't keeping your spine (specifically at your upper back) neutral and were bent forward slightly.

    As Sara said, I would drive forward more with my hips.
  • MrGonzo05
    MrGonzo05 Posts: 1,120 Member
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    Thanks much for the feedback. I can see every point made now that it was pointed out. I'll work on all the points, especially the music in the background. :laugh:
  • Cheri_Moves
    Cheri_Moves Posts: 625 Member
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    Hey there! Im 2 weeks out from my first meet and looking for constructive feedback...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEH-PECBxR0
    This is squat. I will be working on my knee stablility and keeping knees over toes. Also going to try a lower bar positioning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGVUYQTmwk
    Deadlift

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJg7jJjrcA
    bench press. changed to a wider grip since video.

    Thanks for your help in advance!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Hey there! Im 2 weeks out from my first meet and looking for constructive feedback...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEH-PECBxR0
    This is squat. I will be working on my knee stablility and keeping knees over toes. Also going to try a lower bar positioning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGVUYQTmwk
    Deadlift

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJg7jJjrcA
    bench press. changed to a wider grip since video.

    Thanks for your help in advance!

    Will give you comments later tonight/tomorrow, but I have a quick question - you belt looks to be wider at the back than the front - is that the case?
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
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    Hey there! Im 2 weeks out from my first meet and looking for constructive feedback...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEH-PECBxR0
    This is squat. I will be working on my knee stablility and keeping knees over toes. Also going to try a lower bar positioning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGVUYQTmwk
    Deadlift

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJg7jJjrcA
    bench press. changed to a wider grip since video.

    Thanks for your help in advance!

    First thing that jumps out at me on your squats are your knees are caving in and when you come out of the hole, your butt is raising up before your upper body. If you have a meet in a week it is a little late to be changing things up, but after you recover from it, try narrowing your stance slightly to see if that helps with your knees caving in.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    Hey there! Im 2 weeks out from my first meet and looking for constructive feedback...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEH-PECBxR0
    This is squat. I will be working on my knee stablility and keeping knees over toes. Also going to try a lower bar positioning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGVUYQTmwk
    Deadlift

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJg7jJjrcA
    bench press. changed to a wider grip since video.

    Thanks for your help in advance

    Squats, your knees are caving in pretty badly. Gotta fix that, that's gonna cost you long-term. IMO, a belt that's the same width all the way around is a good idea. You want the big contact area for your abs to push against. Unrack the bar with your feet in line with each other, not that split stance, IMO. I don't think that last one matters a whole lot but it seems like a recipe for disaster. Just squat the bar off the hooks, nothing special is needed.

    Deadlift isn't too bad. Your hips are coming up before the bar maybe.

    Bench isn't too bad either. You look like you might be hitting a bit high on your chest. I like to hit lower, at the bottom of my sternum and my arms are more of a 45* angle to my body. Your elbows look pretty flared out to the sides and thus the bar is landing high up. Maybe try tucking the elbows a little bit?