Over 50s Ladies - Our Special Needs

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  • GrannyMayOz
    GrannyMayOz Posts: 1,051 Member
    Oh wow Jane - where do we all get some of that???

    We have a long weekend, son and grandson staying over, and an all-day outing tomorrow. Please forgive me not replying to everyone individually just yet. Have read all the messages though and sent telepathic love, joy, sympathy or support to you all <3
  • jumanajane
    jumanajane Posts: 438 Member
    For people living In Canada and USA I found this.....

    KGK Synergize already has developed a nutrition supplement containing PMFs combined with a form of vitamin E that seems to enhance the compound's effect, according to Kurowska. Marketed as a cholesterol-lowering agent under the trade name Sytrinol, the supplement recently became available in the US.

    Still hunting for the rest of us!
  • jumanajane
    jumanajane Posts: 438 Member
    I just searched Sytrinol and there are various makes around some with other things added that I dont know if they will be beneficial or not. The dose recommended is 300mg daily. They are usually sold as Cholesterol lowering agents....thats not going to be a bad thing as a 'side effect' either,lolol.
    Excited now to see if I can find them and if they have any effect!

    @ May, have a lovely weekend! :)
  • GrannyMayOz
    GrannyMayOz Posts: 1,051 Member
    Thanks Jane - you too!

    "Nutrition supplement'. Does that mean freely available OTC for our American friends?
  • jumanajane
    jumanajane Posts: 438 Member
    It does and us too!
  • Sk8Kate
    Sk8Kate Posts: 405 Member
    Thanks for all the hard work, Jane. Are you still taking the Rhodiola?
  • cdpits
    cdpits Posts: 91 Member
    Wow, been away for 2 1/2 weeks and have a lot of reading to catch up on ! Hope everyone is having a good time with this post and it's wonderful posters as I am xo
  • jumanajane
    jumanajane Posts: 438 Member
    I decided to stop today. I dont think after 3 weeks that it has done anything to help with belly fat, may have helped with sleeping. I dont think I can claim to have high levels of cortisol from anything other than minor niggles and whatever my body is doing to it maybe! I am a pretty calm and laid back person these days,lol. Of course I am happy about that but it doesnt help with my apple shape. When I find the Sytrinol I will try that!! I'm giving the Rhodiola to hubby instead!!! hehehe. I'm considering getting him some Valerian too...hes bouncing off the walls at the moment poor man.

    Question...have any of you noticed that the lower stomach is getting less but the upper part isnt changing? I have been aware of this the last few days although my measurements havent changed (my new obsession,lol)

    Sorry I havent been answering to all your messages, just flooding you with reading. Until someone tells me otherwise I think this last find explains a huge amount about why we cant lose the belly fat. Just searching for more info on that now.

    Had a lovely weekend with Chris, so nice to go out and all eat the same thing! He has such a good attitude! he's not counting anything or weighing himself yet except once a week.Not obsessing! He's just eating meat, eggs, cheese etc. We had a couple of good chats about keeping fats high and he was happy about that but Im certainly not going to nag about anything. He was happy that in South Africa he had Kudu, Ostritch, crocodile tail and big steaks to eat! Seems in Slovakia the meat isnt as good. Lol.
    Im still going to be a granny. 10 weeks now so its getting closer to the time when I am 'officially' told!! His wife told him to 'make sure you dont tell your mum anything'!!! He didnt...I already knew,lolol.

    May, hows David doing? Be back to work soon and your honeymoon over! Hope everything continues to go well.

    Kate, you are making me so jealous with your yard and everything. I might just have to come and visit! Lol. Unless your mozzies are the size of small birds!! May and I are Mozzie-magnets! Have you got your wedding outfit yet or are you holding off until you see what small size to get??

    Ellen how are you feeling on ZC? I know your weight is up and down a bit but are you feeling any different healthwise?

    Karla,you are doing sooooo well with encorporating this woe with your busy social life! Lol. Such restraint!

    Janice I have been meaning to write and say I do not envy you your job! When I was a ward sister and Nursing Home Matron I had to do the Duty Rota and it drove me mad!Lol. Let alone having such a high number to do it for and all the ordering. No wonder your stress levels get high. Whats your favourite thing to do to unwind? You deserve a huge pat on the back(sorry thats all I can send apart from love and hugs) for everything that you deal with and yet stay happy and positive.

    To our newbies on this thread..welcome. Sorry I cant write your names but if I change pages to look I will probably lose all this!! Lol.

    Now for my most exciting news....we just booked to go to Kuala Lumpur....on wednesday!!! Its the only chance we will get for a break and hubby definitely needs it...me..I'll travel anywhere! Lol. We have yet to decide on hotel and are talking about having a couple of days either in Singapore or Penang. Anyone been to either of those??? We go to Kuala Lumpur every year it seems. Mostly because we like it,lol, yes, it rains every day but its warm rain for a few hours...not the UK long grey days of constant rain. We will go there later in the year to do family etc. This is for us!
    Dont know how we will cope with food this year, low carb isnt exactly easy there! I think we may decide to stay in a serviced apartment so I can cook things rather than be naughty. I know its a holiday but I get to eat out a lot here so I dont mind.

    Will share KL with you later this week. :)
    Hope everyone else is doing well and staying strong!
    Lots of love to you all. <3
  • Sk8Kate
    Sk8Kate Posts: 405 Member
    Good evening/morning ladies. It finally rained! Well poured to be exact. Had a heck of a storm. Even some funnels were spotted a few miles away! Power has been out for about 31/2 hrs now. Thank goodness hubby felt generator was a necessity when we moved out here. What plants didn't blow away will be nice & wet now.
    @Jane come visit anytime. Mosquitoes aren't huge, just lots of them. Wow, Kuala Lumpur how exotic. I'm waiting to get something for the wedding for at least another month. (Hopefully new size). Also, bride's mother hasn't picked hers yet, & I've been told it's bad form for me to get mine first.
    @May hope your family weekend was good.
    Just turned my beef bone broth off. When cool I'll strain & put in fridge.
    Hope everyone had a great weekend.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    Whoosh for me! Down 4 pounds this morning! No rhyme or reason to it! Am now .4 lb. from onederland!!
  • wheatlessgirl66
    wheatlessgirl66 Posts: 598 Member
    That is really, really great, @karlottap! So happy for you. So exciting to be that close!
  • Sk8Kate
    Sk8Kate Posts: 405 Member
    Hi ladies. Beautiful morning after the storms last night. Power was out in most of northern part of Sask. Ours was out for 13/12 hrs. Son has video of funnel that came close enough to ground it was whirling dust from the fields around! Before I can start in yard today have to drive around & pick up all the crap that blew away. At least no trees are down.
    I had no charley horses last night & could point my toes when I stretched in bed this am. Mag supplement must be working.
    @Karlottap congrats! Besides the phenomenal weight loss, you sound like you're feeling so much better.
    Well off to clean up,have a great day/evening everyone.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    Thank you @wheatlessgirl66 and @Sk8Kate! It was a surprise to see the scale drop. Was not expecting it! I do feel good overall! Still waiting for the headaches to improve but will get there I'm sure! :-)))
  • wheatlessgirl66
    wheatlessgirl66 Posts: 598 Member
    edited June 2015
    Jane--sorry I didn't answer your question. I think I'm more tired than when I was eating carbs. It's hard to tell what's what, though, b/c I have several things going on that would contribute to being tired. I'm having more SFN pain, but that could be a flare. Who knows. I lost the 2 lbs for about 1 hour and two minutes :) just enough to get me excited. I don't want to jump ship early and miss out on the chance that ZC might work, but....it's lookin' a lot less hopeful. My clothes are not getting smaller, and I'm not losing inches except for the 1/4 in around my knees.
    Go figure. I've been doing this for 40 years, so I shouldn't be surprised. But I really did think this would work. Maybe it still will, don't know. I won't quit LCHF, but I might opt out of ZC before my month is up. I don't enjoy eating just animal products.

    It's lovely that you're getting a holiday to KL. Hope it's a wonderful, restful time of togetherness with your husband.
    Be sure to come back to us! <3 Safe travels!
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    @wheatlessgirl66, my recommendation is to try to stick it out, if you can. I used homemade Alfredo and a type of hollandaise sauce to compliment the meat. It can get a little boring, but has been sooooo worth it for me! I actually saw a 4 pound gain one day during May. Talk about messing with your head! I haven't had a single drop on the scale without an increase the next day. I have learned that what I'm doing is right and with some patience the scale will catch up. :-)
    @jumanajane, enjoy your time away! Hope it's wonderfully relaxing! Good luck with lc!
  • krazyforyou
    krazyforyou Posts: 1,428 Member
    @Karlottap congrats on the 4 lb drop. I personally find the scale goes up and down on its own time frame. Trying not to let it bother me. What's this ZC thing that @wheatlessgirl66 speaks of?? I am not a big meat eater either. Thanks in advance.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    It's following the Meativore May challenge that just finished up. It's consuming only foods from the animal kingdom. No veggies! It's been very good for me and I plan to continue this way. It's considered to be zero carb, but with some meats, and eggs, there are a few carbs that can't be avoided. I had a goal of 10 or less each day. Most days were around 5. I feel great! Well, except for the stupid headaches that is, but I've had them forever. Will be so glad when my body can finally heal itself of them. I am believing it will happen!
  • Kitnthecat
    Kitnthecat Posts: 2,073 Member
    Hello Ladies. I'm just peeking in, but too tired to stop and chat too long. I have been on vacation since last Wednesday and I have done a ton of gardening, especially at my mother's house. I'm almost done, but have to go back to work tomorrow. Sigh.

    Along with the yard work and planting, we did get out and about as well. So it was all time well spent. Just wish it was longer, since I have work left to do...a wildflower garden to weed at Mom's and some weeding and flower planting at home. I planted minimal vegetables at my place, just lettuce, collard greens, 3 tomato plants, cucumbers and yellow beans, and a few planters and pots with flowers. At my mother's place, I planted 20 tomatoes, gladiolas, ground cherries, yellow and green zucchini, spaghetti squash, lots of pickling cucs, green beans, peas, carrots, beets, Spanish and red onions, and rainbow Swiss chard and leaf lettuce....and herbs.

    It took me 5 hours of heavy digging to dig up a patch of grass and weeds in the tomato garden, and a 50 year old clump of chives that was so overgrown with grass that you couldn't find the chives in it. That was a lot of work, lots of bending and digging. So when I started the actual planting, I was quite sure when bending over. I was pretty tired. A little stiff this am, but after my walk, I was fine.

    It looks like the storm that Kate had is headed our way tonight, then we are supposed to get 2 more days if rain before the sun comes back out on Thursday. Oh well, at least I won;t have to water the gardens. And no mosquitos yet, but they may appear after the rain.

    All for now, got to get ready for bed. I'm sure I'll have a ton of work to do tomorrow, so want to make sure I get a good sleep. Take care everyone.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    Goodness I'm tired for you @Kitnthecat! Lol! So glad you've been able to get so much done and that you feel okay after!
  • Sk8Kate
    Sk8Kate Posts: 405 Member
    I have a question about the Atkins bars/treats. When I picked some up the other day (Walmart) I read the front of the box to say 3g carbs, but when I opened it & looked at individual packages they were 18g carbs/serving. Is there another Atkins brand out there?
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    They list the net carbs on the front of the package. I ate them when I was still lc. Haven't had them since the beginning. But they were good for someone who wants a treat and can fit them in.
  • GrannyMayOz
    GrannyMayOz Posts: 1,051 Member
    Oh wow, so many wonderful posts. I love being a part of this group so much! Some amazing victories for many of you, be it food, weight loss, work achieved or etc. So heart-warming to read!

    David sees the surgeon tomorrow morning and should be cleared for work Friday. Then he's rostered off for Sat, Sun and Mon ha har!!! I feel sad for not having time to reply to each of your posts individually, but ask that you bear with me until at least next Tuesday when I get The Man packed off back to his usual working routine, and me to mine ;) I'm still absolutely loving it with him home and will eventually post photos of the crafts that we've both been up to.

    The daily valerian tablet seems to be working a treat for my weight. And my peace of mind too actually, though I had a bit of anxiety last evening before bed. Sun night I'd taken a magnesium supplement before bed and it had set my heart pounding. Usual rhythm, but far too intense. It took me hours to actually get properly to sleep, partly because of the pounding and partly because of worrying about the pounding. I've had the same effect from potassium supplements in recent times so there will be no more of either for me. Obviously I not only don't need them, but my body doesn't *want* them either! Other than that one night I'm sleeping more soundly than I have for years - and I do love my sleep.

    Yesterday we were out for the day with our 2 sons and 3 grandchildren. It was so special to have them all to ourselves. My son bought me a soy milk coffee, which was so kind, and well motivated, so of course I drank it. Then later I had a cow's milk one. We'd taken boiled eggs, cheese 'pods' and nuts to eat so the second coffee was my only choice not to feel hungry. Had a shared dinner with one son and grandson and was then really hungry before bed so had some left-over tuna bake. Calories for the day were fine, but carbs over 50g and fat a little lower than I like. Only up 300 grams (.6 lb) this morning so hopefully that will disappear again quickly.

    Have a great week Ladies <3
  • Kitnthecat
    Kitnthecat Posts: 2,073 Member
    May, all that valerian root is fine, but I really think that the reason you are sleeping better is due to your "honeymoon" with your Sweetie after his surgery...wink, wink.
  • jumanajane
    jumanajane Posts: 438 Member
    Lolol. WOW! What an active bunch we are!

    Janice....I thought holidays were for relaxing??? You sound as though you need to go back to work for a rest! I guess its a different kind of stress and exhaustion than mental stress. Keep an eye on your symptoms though....I dont know if our bodies differentiate between the two. You dont want to raise your cortisol levels from your brief time off! On the other hand I am sitting here green with envy at all the things you have planted! I keep reading recipes for spaghetti squash. Mum used to grow then, may still do, but no chance of finding them here ....or in the shops in the UK either. I think Ill ask mum to grow some, you never know if I get to visit in september they may be ready for me.

    kate please take it easy rushing around trying to clear everything. I know with Hashimotos you can have a 'must finish things' streak and that just puts you under more stress. More time by the pond contemplating the beauty around you or counting mozzies and sending them to people who irritate you!
    Regarding Atkins bars we have used them for 12 years and I have never seen 18gm carb anywhere! I even went and checked all the varieties we have in the fridge(about 6!) and none of them show carbs that high. The only thing showing around that is protein. Could it be a misprinted batch??? Try checking out their website for the ones you got or let me know and I'll see if I have the same and we can compare. I have found them brilliant when we are out and about. Lunch with a cup of coffee and cream! Only prob is the malitol can give you loud and inglorious wind! Happily hubby eats them as much as me so we can be noisy and smelly together!

    Ellen I am so sorry that ZC doesnt seem to be doing the trick with you....yet...maybe you need to give it a bit longer. I know we all want things to change quickly for us but we also know our bodies just take their own time. Maybe its dealing with your subliminal stress about your procedure. Maybe this is boosting your cortisol? This all adds to your fybro so just take your time and try out suggestions like Karlas for things to make your food more interesting. Why not start a thread asking people for their ideas and recipes. I was happy to see a hollondaise sauce recipe posted...I think this could be yummy! Actually I am finding myself inadvertantly going more and more ZC as I am a bit fed up of salad but quite happy with meats eggs etc.

    Well, Karla....what can I say except congratulations! I know we are all very happy for you as well as somewhat whistful wishing it was us!!! I know I am. Its close to 13 weeks I have been doing LCHF and my total loss inc pre MFP is 17.5lbs.Just over a pound a week I suppose but too slow(for me anyway) I actually dont feel much slimmer now as I have accustomed to it after a 3 week stall. I hope something really kicks it up again soon(my loss not my weight! :p )
    Today I found the Synetrol and will give it a month to see if my belly fat changes at all. Not sure whether to continue the Rhodiola or not. I havent taken it this last 2 days and....funnily enough...have slept much better! A Connection? Not sure. Still mulling that one.

    I'm sad to say that our holiday has been tarnished a bit by the news that Hubbys uncle died this morning. He was only 57 and a lovely man. A Dr. He had cancer. Leaves 4 youngish children .....he didnt marry until he was 40. Sad. Hopefully the other uncle who also has cancer and is having chemo now will be spared. Mil is obviously very upset bless her.
    So to finish on a nice note our lovely May! Soooo happy that things have been progressing well with Davids recovery. I'm sure he has been truly spoilt by you. Please tell him 2 weeks is enough! We are fed up with sharing you with him and want you back!! B)>:)<3
    I have discovered that May has been hiding yet another talent! I came across it a few weeks ago reading her travel blog and it kept niggling at me so I asked her if I could share it with you? She said yes!!!
    So here it is....
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    Just look at these! Done by her!! Amazing arent they!

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    Here are some others. You can see more on

    http://mayebony.deviantart.com/gallery/50330930/Nail-Art

    Respect!!
    So....who else has hidden talents that we dont already know about??? Come on now, dont be modest! Show us!
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    First, I MADE IT TO ONDERLAND!!! 199.2 this morning. I guess the fasting day did help even though it wasn't planned.

    Yes @GrannyMayOz, that noise you heard was me, lol!! I too am so glad that David is recovering so well and that your together time has been so productive! Can't wait to see what y'all have been creating! The nail art is astoundingly awesome! Patience and talent needed for that, for sure! But yes, you have been missed though we understand!

    @Jane, so sorry to hear about the loss of your husband's uncle! I'm sure it's a terrible loss for the whole family and having youngish children just breaks my heart! Sending out comforting thoughts and prayers for all! Hope the vacay isn't affected too badly! Hugs!

    I hope everyone is well and having a great LCHF day!! :smiley:
  • wheatlessgirl66
    wheatlessgirl66 Posts: 598 Member
    edited June 2015
    Janice, you amaze me too with all your gardening work! You have so much stamina---so wonderful! How's the ZC going so far?

    Karla--Huge congratulations! That's a huge accomplishment, and I'm thrilled for you. I just knew today would be the day you'd leap into onederland!

    Jane, such a sad thing about the death in the family, especially for the children. I hope you can still have peace and be able to enjoy your vacation. It will be a lovely respite for you. Glad you got the Sytrinol, and I hope it does what it's supposed to! If it works, it will be worth every penny! I know how you feel about the sloooow losses. I've been at it 18 weeks and have lost 12 lbs. That's not counting a month not on MFP when I had cut carbs down but not as low as LCHF. I really do understand your frustration!

    May--those nails! They're amazing--can't imagine how you can paint so delicately and perfectly. I'm so impressed with your many art skills. I'm glad the Valerian is working well for you and things are moving again. So nice that you've had extra time with David, too.

  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    @wheatlessgirl66 I thought about your comment before I got on the scale! Thank you for all of the support! You're will catch up. Remember the lady who actually gained 20 pounds in her first six months of LCHF. I've kept that in the back of my mind since I been such a slow loser. Your body is doing what it needs to prepare itself for weight loss. Hang in there! Thanks again for cheering me on! <3
  • krazyforyou
    krazyforyou Posts: 1,428 Member
    @Karlottap thanks for the answer to my question. I figured it was some form of zero carb. Don't think I am quite ready for that yet. Funny how people you work with make all kinds of comments on what your eating. Hope to see the scale down next time.
  • Kitnthecat
    Kitnthecat Posts: 2,073 Member
    Hello Ladies. I was thinking of you all today when I went back to work. I always take time off from work in order to do other "work" at home. I take time off to put the gardens in, to take produce out, and generally to prepare for family feasts. It is hard work, but I love to be outside in the sun. And it is nice to see that I have greater endurance and flexibility etc.

    But I went back to work today to piles of work. No one does my job when I am away which sucks. They had projects lined up for me, waiting for my return. So I couldn't get down to the business that I wanted to. Grumble grumble grumble. It's funny Jane that you mention the cortisol. I don't think I raised it while away, but I'm sure that I had cortisol pumping and wreaking havoc on my innards during the day at work. I never take a break, don;t need to eat anyway, and stayed one extra hour to try to get work done, but did not come close to catching up. Oh well, tomorrow's another day.

    @Karla....wow, I am so happy for you ! You are truly an inspiration ! Nice nails @May ! Sorry to hear of the loss in your husband's family @Jane. And @Kate, I know these ladies will help you along. We did not get your rain leftover from your storm after all. It looks like it headed south and missed us, so I had to water my garden this evening. Will have to head out to my mother's place tomorrow, along with the fancy tomato spirals I bought, and stake the plants and water everything there, after work and after a visit to Dr Randy.

    @Ellen, I know you've been doing this ZC thing longer than I have, and I don't know yet how long I can do this. But for now I am doing fine. I did sneak a couple of fresh cherries that called out to me from the fridge. But I am enjoying the meat. Yesterday was a feast. I had eggs, pork, beef, lamb and chicken all in one day. It sure is satiating. I literally ripped the chicken apart with my bare hands while it was hot from the oven.....a beautiful pastured chicken, at least 6 pounds, golden brown skin, crispy and delicious and dripping in fat....yummy...now this is turning into a poem to the chicken. I had a small hamburger patty a couple of hours before the chicken, then cooked lamb chops as well, and ate one small one, but the chicken was amazing. The fridge still has leftover meat in it, so supper today was easy. I made a "salad" out of chopped chicken, bacon and a hard boiled egg, held together with mayo. One small bowlful and I am full until breakfast.

    I am having trouble getting my protein numbers up even so. I must be eating too much fat. I switched from HWC to just drinking BPC, so that must be the difference. I guess I'm waiting for butter to make my pants fall off. I have some tweaking to do.

    @krazyforyou, don't worry about what your co-workers think about what you eat. My co-workers know that I don't eat grains or sugar, and although there is one especially nasty woman where I work who will make comments, most of the others see that I am losing weight, getting smaller and getting more definition in my body shape. And I don't usually feel left out, partly because I don't often feel hungry enough to eat while at work, but also because the food that they eat is not usually enticing to me anymore. I started thinking about my chicken in the fridge today And one of the nurse brought me a gift of homemade pork rinds today, so that was nice. Now I'm just going to be patient until the rest of my weight comes off. Some of them know how I am eating and don't open their minds up enough to allow themselves to consider any new ideas about food, but others may actually get interested one day, and I'll be ready to answer questions anytime. I've been eating differently from most other people for several years now, so I am getting a lot calmer about it I guess.

    Well, I'm going to make up some hamburger patties for the freezer then get ff to bed. Good Night beautiful ladies.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    @Kitnthecat, I used to plan vacation time to do that too, when in was able. Wasn't anything more relaxing than having my hands in the dirt. It's hard work and bless you for taking care of your mother's gardens too! Impressive! Hope you are able to catch up on the work backlog quickly!

    @krazyforyou, ZC isn't for everyone. Try not to allow the opinion of others to dictate the foods you decide to eat. People will always have opinions, it's how you decide to keep them from affecting you that is key. The foods you eat are for your benefit, not that of others. I used to allow the opinions of others to dictate choices about my life, but no more! I wished I'd have learned this when younger, but, is never too late to learn! Good luck with the carb levels that work for you! It gets easier the more time you invest in this woe! :smiley:
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