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  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    midwesterner85, eating won't change anything but your weight. Do not go there.

    Since it seems like another job hunt would be hard and you might have to relocate, try to get to know the new boss. I am sure s/he is insecure in the new position. Try to befriend 'em, and see if life doesn't get better for both of you.

    Good luck.

    Eating might help me feel better for now, but not long-term. Anyway, this is someone I've known for a few years already. I got along with him fine up until a few months ago when he got promoted and his head grew several sizes.
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    Oooooh! Look at him getting all deep an' $hitt......

  • mmultanen
    mmultanen Posts: 1,029 Member
    Where were we talking about white and brown fat? My office is frigid this morning and I'm sitting here shivering. Hopefully I'm turning myself into a fat burning machine. burrrrrrrr

    @midwesterner85 I throw rocks at train cars on days like that. The sound it makes when they hit is incredibly therapeutic.
  • rugged1529
    rugged1529 Posts: 95 Member
    I'm starting to learn that certain cheeses is my enemy! My body doesn't do well with I think soft cheese. I'm just cutting it out all together and when I come down some more, I'll do some experimenting.
  • elize7
    elize7 Posts: 1,088 Member
    I cant do cheeses either. Just dont lose with them...even if I can contain the amounts I eat. Said bye first year of keto. Every time I've tried again...same story.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    @midwesterner85 I find in that kind of stress eating scenario, a really chewy piece of jerky or a very dry chewy pepperoni helps (but then again, I'm a tooth grinder/jaw clencher when under stress FWIW).
    retirehappy has a good point - they may be feeling insecure.
  • bametels
    bametels Posts: 950 Member
    Congratulations @retirehappy!
  • fanncy0626
    fanncy0626 Posts: 7,152 Member
    It is with great joy that I would like to announce, not only did I hit my goal weight today, I was an extra lb. under that weight. Many thanks for all the great support I have gotten on the LCHF & Ladies group here. I had really thought I would never be here. I'm an older woman, will soon be 68. Just know the "you can't loss weight when you get old" manta is not true, I'm proof.

    Now to decide my new target.

    Congratulations! So happy for you!
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    It is with great joy that I would like to announce, not only did I hit my goal weight today, I was an extra lb. under that weight. Many thanks for all the great support I have gotten on the LCHF & Ladies group here. I had really thought I would never be here. I'm an older woman, will soon be 68. Just know the "you can't loss weight when you get old" manta is not true, I'm proof....

    Yes, I was fed that old chestnut... in the guise of "as an older woman, you need that fat to support your pelvic girdle and reproductive organs through menopause because you know you're falling apart, over the hill, past it, done and dusted, on the shelf, blah blah blah...."

    Well, a really good friend of mine pointed out the utter fallacy of that comment. You tone your muscles to support your frame.
    And there are three very specific exercises which work 100 times better than simple (hah!) tummy crunches.

    Here they are:
    Deeper abdominal muscles:
    Target deeper abdominal muscles by doing "abdominal hollowing" or "drawing in the bellybutton." First, get down on all fours. Let your tummy hang down as you take a deep breath. Let your breath out, and at the end of your exhalation, gently draw your bellybutton inward and upward toward your spine. You should feel a slight tightening around your waist — think of it as trying to squeeze through a partially closed door. Hold for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds. Work up to 10 repetitions. During each effort, your spine position shouldn't change and you should breathe freely. Eventually, you'll be able to do this exercise standing up. It's so subtle, no one should be able to tell you're doing it.

    Lower abdominal muscles:
    Tone your lower abdomen by doing pelvic tilts and pelvic lifts. To do a pelvic tilt, lie on your back on the floor with your knees bent. Flatten your back against the floor by tightening your abdominal muscles and bending your pelvis up slightly. Hold for five to 10 seconds. Repeat five times and work up to 10 to 20 repetitions.

    For pelvic lifts, lie on your back with your knees bent up toward your chest and your arms relaxed by your sides. Tighten your lower abdomen and lift your buttocks up off the floor, with your knees aimed toward the ceiling. Hold for five to 10 seconds. Repeat five times and work up to 10 to 20 repetitions.

    (See Mayo Clinic, http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/belly-fat/wo00128)
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Yay @retirehappy. Kudos to you for your perseverance. I never once believed that "old" thing either.
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 3,969 Member
    It is with great joy that I would like to announce, not only did I hit my goal weight today, I was an extra lb. under that weight. Many thanks for all the great support I have gotten on the LCHF & Ladies group here. I had really thought I would never be here. I'm an older woman, will soon be 68. Just know the "you can't loss weight when you get old" manta is not true, I'm proof....

    Yes, I was fed that old chestnut... in the guise of "as an older woman, you need that fat to support your pelvic girdle and reproductive organs through menopause because you know you're falling apart, over the hill, past it, done and dusted, on the shelf, blah blah blah...."

    Well, a really good friend of mine pointed out the utter fallacy of that comment. You tone your muscles to support your frame.
    And there are three very specific exercises which work 100 times better than simple (hah!) tummy crunches.

    Here they are:
    Deeper abdominal muscles:
    Target deeper abdominal muscles by doing "abdominal hollowing" or "drawing in the bellybutton." First, get down on all fours. Let your tummy hang down as you take a deep breath. Let your breath out, and at the end of your exhalation, gently draw your bellybutton inward and upward toward your spine. You should feel a slight tightening around your waist — think of it as trying to squeeze through a partially closed door. Hold for 10 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds. Work up to 10 repetitions. During each effort, your spine position shouldn't change and you should breathe freely. Eventually, you'll be able to do this exercise standing up. It's so subtle, no one should be able to tell you're doing it.

    Lower abdominal muscles:
    Tone your lower abdomen by doing pelvic tilts and pelvic lifts. To do a pelvic tilt, lie on your back on the floor with your knees bent. Flatten your back against the floor by tightening your abdominal muscles and bending your pelvis up slightly. Hold for five to 10 seconds. Repeat five times and work up to 10 to 20 repetitions.

    For pelvic lifts, lie on your back with your knees bent up toward your chest and your arms relaxed by your sides. Tighten your lower abdomen and lift your buttocks up off the floor, with your knees aimed toward the ceiling. Hold for five to 10 seconds. Repeat five times and work up to 10 to 20 repetitions.

    (See Mayo Clinic, http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/belly-fat/wo00128)

    I do not ever do floor crunchs, I have hurt myself so many times over the years doing those I gave up on them like 10 yrs. ago. There are a variety of standing or on all fours crunch moves you can do along with the ones you have listed above. This is one of my favorites, the bird dog, I do it and planks a lot. Has helped me shed some inches over the last few months.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgOuR7YrwtM
  • Just_Eric
    Just_Eric Posts: 233 Member
    *kitten* YEAH, RETIREHAPPY!
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    I tried that 'bird dog' exercise but kept falling over...! I have unevenly-structured legs; my right works like a dream. My left leg is an abject failure at doing its job... But thanks for the tip, @retirehappy I'll bear it in mind or see if I can adapt it for myself....
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 3,969 Member
    Alexandra, google standing crunches, there are a lot of those that might work for you. I believe that jessicasmithtv on youtube does a session of mostly those.

    I am just determined to keep my belly area more firm. Otherwise my hard work doesn't get shown off. ;)
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    Made a big mistake today. I had boiled up some marrow bones and oxtail to make beef bone broth. I hated seeing all the meat going to waste, so decided to fry it up in its own fat, heat an egg on top and sprinkle with grated cheddar and mozzarella - a mix readily available in pour stores.

    This shot my calorific intake way over target, with protein and fats zooming a short way over the limits. Carbs are totally down, and sodium needs a top-up.
    However, it really made me feel nauseated. The fattiness was distinctly over-the-top and frankly unpleasant. I also realised that the bone marrow had also been included which, while once a high-class delicacy in London, (a sterling silver marrow spoon, C. 1775) among the Gentrified folk, was just too much as an addition.

    Just really a caveat to others to not be tempted to indulge. It might seem like a waste to discard it, but honestly? It's probably better thrown away than eaten.

    as a side note, the broth is amazing, though!
  • Alaplum
    Alaplum Posts: 169 Member
    i had this same struggle with making chicken broth. I have a hard time with wasting anything. There was meat left in the pot but thankfully I threw it all out.
  • Violet_Flux
    Violet_Flux Posts: 481 Member
    I make broth from the bones after I make pork roast. There's always some scraps of meat and stuff left over afterwards. I usually cut it up very fine and give it to the cats. :smile: What they don't want, I toss.
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 3,969 Member
    Made a big mistake today. I had boiled up some marrow bones and oxtail to make beef bone broth. I hated seeing all the meat going to waste, so decided to fry it up in its own fat, heat an egg on top and sprinkle with grated cheddar and mozzarella - a mix readily available in pour stores.

    This shot my calorific intake way over target, with protein and fats zooming a short way over the limits. Carbs are totally down, and sodium needs a top-up.
    However, it really made me feel nauseated. The fattiness was distinctly over-the-top and frankly unpleasant. I also realised that the bone marrow had also been included which, while once a high-class delicacy in London, (a sterling silver marrow spoon, C. 1775) among the Gentrified folk, was just too much as an addition.

    Just really a caveat to others to not be tempted to indulge. It might seem like a waste to discard it, but honestly? It's probably better thrown away than eaten.

    as a side note, the broth is amazing, though!

    Well bone marrow is in favor again these days, I've seen Anthony Bourdain eating it on several occasions in different countries around the world. Maybe free some of those goodies, I'm guess the bone marrow could do another round in the broth pot if nothing else. Two cheeses might not have been a good idea either. Hope you are feeling better now.
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    Made a big mistake today. I had boiled up some marrow bones and oxtail to make beef bone broth. I hated seeing all the meat going to waste, so decided to fry it up in its own fat, heat an egg on top and sprinkle with grated cheddar and mozzarella - a mix readily available in pour stores.

    This shot my calorific intake way over target, with protein and fats zooming a short way over the limits. Carbs are totally down, and sodium needs a top-up.
    However, it really made me feel nauseated. The fattiness was distinctly over-the-top and frankly unpleasant. I also realised that the bone marrow had also been included which, while once a high-class delicacy in London, (a sterling silver marrow spoon, C. 1775) among the Gentrified folk, was just too much as an addition.

    Just really a caveat to others to not be tempted to indulge. It might seem like a waste to discard it, but honestly? It's probably better thrown away than eaten.

    as a side note, the broth is amazing, though!

    Well bone marrow is in favor again these days, I've seen Anthony Bourdain eating it on several occasions in different countries around the world. Maybe free some of those goodies, I'm guess the bone marrow could do another round in the broth pot if nothing else. Two cheeses might not have been a good idea either. Hope you are feeling better now.

    Thank you so much, yes I am.
    I had a spoonful of H/M sauerkraut and a half glass ful of Kombucha which settled me very well....
    I love Anthony Bourdain; I read his autobiography and he was a wild renegade of a sous-chef/Chef, in his younger days.... Although he seems to have settled down now and is calmer and more...'conformist' in his ways.... it's the acceptable face of commercialism.... I love Chefs with fire in their bellies.... Even Gordon Ramsay seems to have settled down....

    Bone Marrow is utterly delicious when done properly and tastily. Sadly on this occasion, my lot was done to death....!
    I used to use it in abundance when making Italian risotto alla Milanese, or 'risi-bisi'.... I haven't made any risotto for a very long time now.
    I think that has something to do with the carb content.... :p
  • LizinLowell
    LizinLowell Posts: 208 Member
    Ha! @AlexandraCarlyle Flattering but now you're her nutritionist? Are you going to do it or just give her links to some websites? :lol:
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    edited May 2017
    A bit of both, of course! We all adapt LCHF to how we live our lifestyles and incorporate it accordingly... so I'm going to give her pointers, links, references, but also explain about finding her own rhythm and enjoying it. Seriously - I've never had so much fun and satisfaction losing weight, getting healthy and eating well, before! It's brilliant! I'm thoroughly contented, it's been such a worthwhile learning curve!
    And let's be honest - we all come onto this forum for support, help, counsel, and education from others, don't we?

    I suppose I count myself extraordinarily lucky that my H is not only totally on board with this, but really, precipitated our joint efforts by researching how fasting affects Diabetes - and throwing himself headlong into this WoE.

    I have to admit, it's a real blessing and boon to have your nearest and dearest 100% with you all the way.

    I would never consider myself anyone else's nutritionist - but it's gratifying to have someone actually be keen to see for themselves how well it works, as opposed to having people pooh-pooh it and consider it wrong, unhealthy or just plain ludicrous....
  • LizinLowell
    LizinLowell Posts: 208 Member
    Sounds great!
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Good grief!! Ads tonight on the sidebar of MFP are for Froot Loops, Special K, and a site where I can get the best price for my Rolex. :o
    I obviously have them very confused.... no accurate tracking of my online habits at all, that makes me feel like the Anti-Spyware and Cookie Cleaners really work.
  • EggToni
    EggToni Posts: 190 Member
    Hi, just bumping to share something that happened today: we had a pre-opening de-brief chat at work, from Management this morning, to update us on May sales, business, good news and new promo's plus a taste-test on some new stuff we're selling in Our Food Hall.... I abstained. Guess what? Carb-loaded!

    So after this pep-talk, a colleague approaches, and says to me, "Alex, could I have a word?" (That usually means I'm in deepschyte... :D )

    She continued "I need a favour..." (Oh, ok, maybe I'm off the hook!)
    "I would love you to write me a meal plan, and a list of stuff you eat and don't eat, because you look amazing. What you're doing obviously works, and you look so good, I think I need to do what you're doing....!"

    OMG. What I'm doing obviously works! Yes, it kinda does, don't it...?!

    Nice job and nice to get that compliment! Have you thought about charging her a fee? :D
    A coworker here who has recently lost quite a bit of weight is now charging only $10 to get them on the Keto path.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    You are right, @Just_Eric, LCD Chat had fallen off the cliff of pages. Time to resurrect it. Helllloooooow out there!
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    Bonjour tout le monde! Che meraviglia questo LCHF!

    (I'm very Cosmopolitan, you know.....) :D
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