Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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DD and I are re-doing albums. Here's one of my favorite me pics. I'm 6-7 in my favorite shirt turned back to look back at a neighbor kid, Christi, that I played with. It looks like, I'm saying "I don't care". You can see my hair was in pigtails all the time. It likely was earlier that day, but I pulled it loose.
Another pic is my mom. Yes that's a joint. Her hair is permed. Naturally I think it like mine, just curly enough to be wild.
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Tortillas with rice cheese and avocado so far. Yay! The scale is down about a pound today, I suspect dehydration.
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@Elise4270 That is a great picture of you. Hate to say it, but your mom does look just a tad high there. I do like her hair though.
I tried to scan my senior yearbook picture to post, but my computer and printer/scanner aren't communicating today. Maybe I can take them to a therapy session or something and they'll let me do it tomorrow.
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DD and I are re-doing albums. Here's one of my favorite me pics. I'm 6-7 in my favorite shirt turned back to look back at a neighbor kid, Christi, that I played with. It looks like, I'm saying "I don't care". You can see my hair was in pigtails all the time. It likely was earlier that day, but I pulled it loose.
Another pic is my mom. Yes that's a joint. Her hair is permed. Naturally I think it like mine, just curly enough to be wild.
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Tortillas with rice cheese and avocado so far. Yay! The scale is down about a pound today, I suspect dehydration.
You were a cute little girl and your mom was pretty, and I can see the "highness." I love old pictures and I love old furniture. It had so much character back then.2 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »@Elise4270 That is a great picture of you. Hate to say it, but your mom does look just a tad high there. I do like her hair though.
I tried to scan my senior yearbook picture to post, but my computer and printer/scanner aren't communicating today. Maybe I can take them to a therapy session or something and they'll let me do it tomorrow.
If u have a smartphone could just take a photo, that's all I did. And ya, my mother was always high. She did work though.1 -
@elise4270 - Cute picture! Wow, your mom smoked in front of you?! My parents were big time partiers, but kept it somewhat secret!
I broke down and got junk food from the teacher's lounge just now. I am having a frustrating day with the school database - and decided chocolate covered pretzels would somehow help it. Not yet.3 -
@ddmom0811 ya she smoked and drank around us. If I had a headache she'd have me take a toke. I got the pot- barf gene. So I never developed a liking to it. She also gave me a drink of vodka when I had the hiccups. Not a fan. She was too cool to be "mom", always called her and my dad by first names. Plausible deniability? We'll stop there before I dig too deep and get mad all over again.
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Doc appointment so I made good on the schlotzskys sandwich. I only ate half of a 780 calorie caprese sandwich, so far.
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Sending me back to the orthopaedic surgeon. The suggestion is possibly to re-do the osteotomy as the rotation correction needs to be about 20° more. There was an "or" that was suspicious. He wasn't ready to discuss the or. Idk or hip replacement? Or tibial correction? Or what? Leave me hanging, I'm fine. Yup yup. 😄
Now I need a nap. DH is home with "pneumonia". I'm hoping not, and just err of caution on the ER doc. Anyway no sleep for poor poor pampered me.2 -
Dang @elise4270 - I was really hoping for some good news as I am sure you were as well. When do you see the surgeon? He will probably address all the 'or' possibilities and options I would guess. Hope your DH feels better and can take care of you as he should!
@ddmom0811 - my mom and dad were partiers too with friends and bowling league, etc.. I remember babysitters quite a few times a month and later my brothers were old enough to watch me. My parents were both pretty heavy smokers (unfiltered cigarettes too) and almost always had at least one martini (or beer) before dinner. Smoking related disease is what took them both at pretty young ages, especially my mom. I smoked for a couple of years in HS/college but quit on a bet from my future dh. Other than a glass of wine or maybe a beer I don't do alcohol well. It affects me too much and I hate the way it feels. Our dd is the same way and didn't drink at all until the last few years when she has started drinking wine a little.
I did well on food yesterday and today so far has been a 1/2 a protein bar. a banana and pb toast. Need to eat lunch soon then take dh to the airport.2 -
Sorry for the not so good doctor's report @Elise4270 . I would have pushed to know what the "or" was. I'm not good at waiting for health news and would start thinking the worst.
My mom and dad are t-teetotalers and to this day don't know I drink. I won't do it in front of them. Neither smoked either. Dad used to dip, but he quit that too many moons ago. So, I guess they have lived fairly healthy lives in that respect. Eating healthy foods, not so much. But they have always been active. I guess that's why they are both still going strong at 84 and 87 years young.
Mom and I went shopping today. I wound up buying myself more than I did anyone else I was supposed to be shopping for. I got a new running outfit (tights, shirt, and jacket), 4 pairs of socks (2 wool and 2 feetures elite which have a lifetime guarantee). I'd never heard of socks having a life time guarantee. Have you? I also bought myself a cute little Christmas dress and a pair of leggings to go underneath.
Since we were shopping, we had a protein bar for lunch, but stopped at Wendy's on the way home and got a cheeseburger and fries for us and dad, which I brought home to eat. Right now, my calorie count for MFP is -1. LOL
Oh, I went to the sleep center today. She got the report from my overnight oxygen test I did back in August and I no longer need to use my CPAP!!!!! Losing weight has made it unnecessary. Yet another reason to continue running.2 -
@elise4270- sorry it wasn't good news yet, but the good news will come one of these days! Wow, I thought my parents were wild (well, they were but never gave any to me). You turned out just fine! Question - did you quit working to go back to school?
@Shanaber - I grew up with tons of babysitters also!
At least all of us turned out okay (other than needing help with our food and running, lol!)
@quilteryoyo- haha - story of my life -- going shopping and buying more for me! Regarding the lifetime warranty, I've decided I'm sick of those warranties. Who can possibly keep track of receipts/evidence of purchase or whatever one needs to actually return something. The only lifetime warranty that was really good for me was a coat from Lands End. Zipper broke many, many years after purchase. Sent it back and they sent me a brand new one.
Cute Christmas dress and leggings!!! Fun! Awesome news on the CPAP!!! I wish my DH could stop wearing his. He's been working out (biked for many years, but now lifting), but not losing any weight it seems. His body shape is changing so maybe one day!
I had an awesome 5 mile run today. It is really cool here in Orlando and it felt so nice! Only 2 more days at school and then off until 1/6. As for food, my meals have been going well, but I've had WAY TO MUCH SUGAR this week. It's pretty ridiculous to be honest. Although, I have to remind myself that prior to 2013 when I started getting in shape, I probably ate way more. The thing is I am craving Christmas cookies and so I need to just make some! I keep having other things (mainly candy that is around here at school), and what I really, really want is some good 'ol Christmas cookies!
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@ddmom0811 technically I am still employed. I’m off on disability and with the climate at work, getting rid of the chemists (4 of 5 gone with my absence. The other has a deal to stay through retirement, spring I think). I took the initiative to plan for a back up career. When I looked at the job possibilities for my degree, I just wasn’t feeling any of it. Dh suggested I do something I liked . If I go back I’ll be eliminated shortly and the timing was coincidentally opportune to keep busy and address these ongoing issues. I consider it to be a gift from the universe. Frustrating to lose a job that way, but I suppose if it had to happen I’m glad it at the least appears to be a blessed path.
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Dh is home, and doing better. Thanks for the well wishes. He was kind and slept outside of the bedroom, I slept well and he slept well. So I ordered Walmart pick up for tortilla soup, lasagne, and fajitas. Yum. Dh wants lasagne so that’s prob what we’ll have tonight. Unless the date on the meat is close, then fajitas. Beary’s birthday is coming up and I had dh get him a rotisserie chicken. Dang thing was half cooked. Gross. Someone is trying to make folks sick. Dd still re cooked it and used it in soup. I had no part of it. Just having had a microbiology class, all I hear is “you gotta do something stupid folks” (regarding salmonella), that is absolutely stupid. Where’s my bleach.
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I went to Costco yesterday and since my dh is gone for a few days I got their street tacos kit - looks so yummy and I can't wait to try it. I also got a rotisserie chicken and had some of it for dinner last night. It was nicely done and delicious. Sorry yours was gross @elise4270!
I got up late this morning as I have a hard time getting to sleep when dh is gone. The house is too quiet! So my entire day seems to be running late. I did get out for a nice little run with Hobbes but it was longer than it should have been considering my long runs should be no more than 6 now and this was almost 5. It is going to be hard I can already tell to not run like I am used to pushing it. I did do my PT exercise before I ran and I have strength training late this afternoon. Need to review with my trainer the limitations the ortho team is putting on me now.2 -
@Elise4270 My husband had salmonella once from undercooked chicken in a takeout chicken sandwich, and to this day he will barely eat chicken in any form. It’s no joke, there was blood involved!
@shanaber These days the beliefs around osteoarthritis and running are changing so rapidly that I would take any recommendation with a huge grain of salt, especially if it came from an experienced person who might prefer older ways of thinking. Have you had an MRI on your knees which shows that your current level of running is damaging them more than they were damaged before?2 -
@shanaber I know that is going to be hard on you. Can you work on speed instead of distance, or is that hard on your knees too?
That sounds awful for your husband @rheddmobile . I try to be really careful with chicken.0 -
I heard many a poo stories in that microbiology class. Food borne pathogens is no joke. If you ever wonder which bug got you, here's a nice table from the CDC.
https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/symptoms.html
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None laced with pathogens, I hope.
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Stupid Reese's pieces I got DH and then ate 7 "handfulls". Soy and peanut, I anticipate a headache tomorrow about 5pm.
Fajitas. yes as suspected the meat was 3 days to expire.
Overall I ate too much today. Tomorrow I'll get with the do better.1 -
The street taco kit from Costco was delicious! I am not a huge fan of the cilantro sauce but the rest of it was really good.
@rheddmobile - My ortho doc and team are very current and have always encouraged my running despite arthritis in both knees, hips and feet (also in shoulders and hands which was what I first saw him for years ago). There is none of that attitude that running is bad for you or will ruin your knees, etc.. He encouraged my running and strength training and introduced me to chi running many years ago (I had never heard of it and he highly recommended it). He told me years ago that the more I do and the more I move will help me long term to keep moving. Unfortunately the recent studies and findings with this specific arthritis that is due to an accident or fall (for me when I fell and tore my meniscus), show that longer runs can cause the damage to accelerate. They did not give me an ultimatum or say you can't do these long runs. Just that if I do, the damage and pain will very likely increase along with the reality of then not being able to run even short distances. As will the necessity for another type of intervention, including the possibility of a knee replacement. Oh and yes I have had x-rays and MRIs on my hips, knees and feet - my bones are well documented 😁2 -
@Elise4270 - that's so great that your husband said do something you want to do and you did!
@shanaber - sounds like an excellent doctor. I do Chi running also. I'm sure we've discussed it the running group and probably you are the one who told me about it many moons ago.
Yesterday was a party at a friend's house -- teacher party. Had a blast. It was mainly appetizers so ate way too many. Felt pretty rough this morning but managed to run one mile for my streak. Luckily it was 56 out so it felt great. Today is a rest day and my last day at work until Jan 6!1 -
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@shanaber Cardio definitely does help us stay trim and look younger.
Talking about mothers...I do not get along with mine. I moved several states and over a thousand miles away from my mother 22 years ago. Growing up, people always told me how pretty my mom was and I knew she was very pretty...she got alot of attention from everyone. However, she has definitely let herself go. She cakes on her makeup and keeps up her blonde highlights but that doesn't make up for a dry, dead personality. She did aerobics and lifted weights when I was growing up. Now she does very little of anything and it shows. She has never been that there for me mom and she's been a backstabber throughout my life. She made life hell growing up. It sounds mean, but she looks old, fat and sloppy now. I see emotionally and mentally who I never want to become but I also see physical who I do not want to become. If she had a sweet personality, I'd probably see her in a different physical light but I certainly see the ugliness in all aspects.
Food: The beginning of this week was awful. My husband's boss made all kinds of treats and I resisted none. Even when I'm a million calories over I keep track. I had about five bad days. Yesterday was good. Today is okay so far, although, I'm enjoying wine and that was on the "no" list. But... anyway...I did get out and ran 3.2 miles today. Hopefully in the morning I'll get out for a much longer one. It's kind of rainy today. I am meeting my 17 year olds crush tonight. He's coming over and they'll watch movies in her bed, door wide open...
I hope you ladies have a wonderful weekend.
@ddmom0811 I'll tell you what I told my husband who continuously gets provided delicious treats, snacks and meals day after day this month at his job... Enjoy it now because January will be here soon and it'll be boring and you'll get nothing...1 -
]@LoveyChar I understand about the mom. Bringing it all back up, I'm having dreams of being a kid angry at the choices and full of self at our expenses. Half way in the dream I remember I can leave and have a job. Mine was just an emotional leech. Constant guilt to get what she wanted, no one cares about her, I think I'm better than she is. I don't drink, smoke pot or bring my kids over while she hides a strange man in the bedroom. But all this was "good enough for me". I'm like wtf? Why do you think it's all good enough for me? No it's not lady! It's not good enough for any kid anywhere. I got layers of trauma to go through, layers. I'm the onion of trauma. DH said I should take it to confession, but I feel Ike I should just move past it. I can be mad as long as it doesn't.... Ugh cause me to rant amongst internet friends and strangers. haha!
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DH fixed fajitas then ate them all. So I had avocado, triscuts and swiss. I just put lasagna in the oven. Yum.
We have a trip coming up and I went to find DD a travel bag. Found the cutest bag and it was a steal at 20$. She doesn't want it and will just use her back pack. So I scored a cute bag.
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Ate really poorly the last two days. It shows on the scale. I'm back up 4 pounds from last week. Next week won't be any better, except I may be able to get in more exercise. Running a 5 mile race this morning. Will let you know how that goes later.1
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@quilteryoyo - I'm right there with you on the scale! Frustrating but I know it's because I'm eating way too much!
It took me many years to figure out that just because I ate like crap and the scale is up, I'm not going to totally blow it. I'll eat some healthy meals and have cookies and whatever over the next week or so while my daughter is here. But I used to think "if I'm not eating healthy I need to just eat everything in sight -- it was either all good or all bad". Now I finally realize it's okay to have some bad. The scale might show it but I don't have to freak out about it.
I hate to use the term good and bad for food, but you know what I mean by that.
Today was a 1 mile run for the streak and a 43 mile bike ride. First time on bike in 3 weeks!!! It was tough but I didn't get dropped which I was very happy about!
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Tried to edit my post but it wouldn't let me... so cut and paste it is...
Ok back to moms... I was super close to my mom. I was sick and in bed for over a year about the time she started dating after she and my dad divorced. It was kind of like role reversal with me the 15yo waiting up for her to come home from her date. When she remarried and planned to move to CA I asked to move in with my dad who I was also very close to and stay in Boise (Sophmore in HS and lived there my entire life so all my friends were there) but I was not allowed to. Then as soon as I graduated HS (early) they shipped me off to a residence hall at a commuter college (ie not a lot of students living on campus) and they moved overseas. I was so angry and lonely, stuck in CA with no family to go home for the holidays or visit or go in the summer. They paid for my housing for the 1st semester and then I was on my own. I didn't make enough to pay for everything so I ended up on food stamps and trying to keep my grades up when I worked most of the time I wasn't in class. Honestly I slept through a lot of my classes. The good side is I met DH there and we eventually got an apartment. DH still says she was selfish and has always hated what she did. I can't imagine ever doing that to my DD so I guess maybe she was. She died in Spain about a month before our wedding. I found out later they were planning to come back to the states for good. I still miss her.
Diet - I don't have good or bad foods either and I don't have any that are forbidden. I have one big one I decided to remove (diet sodas) because I think they are really bad for your body and metabolism, but everything else is ok. That said I do my best to eat healthy whole foods because I think they make me feel the best. But if I want that Christmas cookie or a piece of Theo dark chocolate I will have it. I am usually pretty good though with self regulation and don't eat 10 cookies or the entire chocolate bar.
@Elise4270 - love the bag and the Beary in the Bag!
Food - will likely have yogurt for breakfast, maybe a salad or sandwich for lunch and leftover chicken and a steamed sweet potato for dinner with other veggies.0 -
Wow @shanaber, talk about tough love or maybe the new beau wasn't keen on being a step-parent. Dh is kinda lost with the step-kids and where he fits in and some days its him or the "kids". He loves them and would love to ship them off but is really good despite all of Alex's shenanigans. He's good at helping me not baby them too much. I dated one guy for 4 years,just before Eric and it became evident that he wanted no part in my kids as they got older. I politely sent him a text message telling him to find someone with no kids, I wouldn't be coming over anymore. I'm glad it worked out for you and DH finding each other, even if the road was a bit rocky.
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leftover lasagna. Lasagna is never a good choice. I woke thinking "surely today my weight is acceptable". Nope. up 2.5 pounds. ah well.
I put a few food items on the forbidden list when I can't be responsible eating them. Like nachos, I wont record calories accurately, so if i can t be honest i cant have them.1 -
@shanaber I'm so sorry that happened to you. But, at least you did meet your DH there. When I think back on the times that were hard for me, I try to remember that, while they weren't ok and never will be, without those experiences I wouldn't be the person I am today. And, I think I'm a pretty decent person in a pretty good place right now.
I ran the Pioneer 5 mile race this morning. I didn't quite as well as I had hoped but met my main goal to finish in under an hour. My official time was 56:26 min. I was 5th out of 9 in my age group (60 - 64) and 111/144 overall. There was an 89 year old woman, whose birthday is in either March or May when she'll be 90, that ran it. Her time was 1:21:19. She was so peppy and cheerful. I want to be her in 30 years!2 -
@Elise4270 ...and you scored a cute cat too... Haha... And no, it's never easy or impossible to just get over mom issues. My husband had the "perfect mom." Not really, but she was pretty fantastic so he cannot in any way empathize with me. His parents are still married, over 40 years now and madly in love with each other. It was nothing like our upbringings...
Mom issues...I know one day my daughters will complain about me. I just hope they have less complaints about me than I had about my own mother. My oldest got a ton of money for her birthday and I "nagged" her to no avail to thank the senders/well wishers. Nothing... so I took it a step further... told her in the future that I would no longer give her cards until she thanked senders first or that I'd just tell senders not to waste their time or money in the future. Aggravated...oh yeah I am/was. That... finally...provoked her to do something...first, she gets mad at me and said I care about everyone else more than her, but then she thanked everyone. Nervy and I would seriously like to smack her in the mouth sometimes...but I wouldn't. I just can't believe how she acts or doesn't act sometimes. My younger daughter is nothing like that. She thanks everyone, effortlessly, and doesn't complain... just grateful.
@shanaber I'm not making light of what your mom did. Hubby is right, she probably did hate what she did to you but at least she waited until you had graduated. I wasn't in your shoes, though. I have never been alone like that in my life, so I can't imagine how you felt. When I graduated from high school, I went to community college. Just to get half the cost of tuition was harder than pulling teeth and my mom only paid for half of my first semester. It's was only $800! When my brother graduated from high school, he went to a private college. His tuition was $33,000 a year and my parents split the cost. She just kept the money coming for him. He went four full years, got his degree and never did one thing with it. About $130,000... Her treatment was so different towards each one of us and she made it an absolute point to make me feel worthless...and...
@quilteryoyo You are so right that our experiences shape us, make us who we are. I think we've overcome and continue to overcome things as we go through life. I saw your pictures and you are such a cute lady and you have a nice looking family...Even if you didn't do as well as you would have liked to in the race, you finished. It counts! You will be that old lady one day! That is one impressive lady because I know much younger people who couldn't do it.
@ddmom0811 At least you're staying active. A 43 mile bike ride plus a run is no small workout and you'll get the weight off soon enough. I think back to this time last year and I was only walking. I've been running off and on for about 4 years but after having my son, I couldn't run for so long. Anyway, I walked alot and even though I thought I was fat this time of year last year, I knew walking was helping me to not be even fatter.
I had chocolate wine and pizza this weekend and I measured/counted nothing. I'll get back on track tomorrow. Plus no run because husband and I shopped for about 7-8 hours today, which was the result of waiting until the last minute. We did some online shopping beforehand, though. I don't like shopping. But still, when I'm buying gifts, I need to see everything, smell everything...I was picking out body washes (stocking stuffers) and I was smelling them, all of them and my husband was getting impatient and annoyed. Oh well, we made it through the day and didn't kill each other. Miracle maybe...
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@LoveyChar I was actually very lucky growing up. My mom and dad are still married and very much in love...going on 63 years. We didn't have a whole lot of "things" growing up, but we had a ton of love, fun, and hard work on the farm. We got to play in the creek that runs through the property without supervision, could walk to the neighbor's house (a mile away) by ourselves, etc. There weren't many people around and everyone knew everyone and watched out for each other. When I look back at my childhood, I have almost all good memories. My hair was my biggest issue. So, I really shouldn't complain at all.
So, is that chocolate wine, or chocolate and wine? I've never heard of chocolate wine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Our extended family isn't getting together until New Year's Day, so I'll be doing most of my shopping after Christmas. It'll probably wind up being a long day too. I'll take my mom to help. She likes to shop. Dad, not so much.0 -
@quilteryoyo 63 years is amazing...it's chocolate wine - red wine infused with chocolate. It's delicious, like spiked chocolate milk if you ask me. Calorically, it's about 350 glass. I won't get another bottle for another year. It's definitely a treat. It's cheap but definitely not something to be enjoyed on the regular.
Ladies, I went shoe shopping yesterday. I tried on 3 different pairs of shoes. My daughter swears by Brooks. If you blind folded me and didn't tell me what was on my feet, I'd still choose a New Balance on my feet. I like the extra cushion under my foot. They're all terrain running shoes and I'll start breaking them in after Christmas when I look surprised to see them for the first time, wink wink. I got very little sleep last night. Hoping to get a couple of runs in today and then I want to lay in bed with my little guy and watch movies. I hope y'all have a great day!1 -
@LoveyChar parenting is hard. I am always afraid that I'll ruin the relationship especially since I haven't a good one to model. So finding the balance between friend and confident, when they are older and being the parent is hard. DD being 24 I hate still having to make rules and set expectations. But if you want my help and to eat my food... That's the way the cookie crumbles.
What are ya gonna do?
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Today is the day. I'm fixing soup later so I will cut some calories. I'm getting serious. I did it before and I can quit indulging now. My undies are tight.
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Parenting is hard and I think we all want to do better than our parents. It doesn't end either, ever... I never envisioned needing to help a 30 yo 'child financially, especially one that is a doctor. She is buried under student loan debt and the practice she works in pays her little more than she made as a resident. We just found out too that the doctor who owns the practice hasn't paid her for 6 mos! Who does this??? DD has been draining her savings to pay her bills and didn't want to tell us. She does have some income from the clinic she also works in and from teaching at her old school but they are also slow to pay.
She is looking for another job and wants to continue to do clinical work but many places, Childrens included, are looking to hire PAs instead because they are cheaper. She could get an administration job tomorrow (has a masters in Public Health too) or if she also wanted to see adults. Her dream job is to work in a community based clinic where she can see kiddos and do admin/advocacy work part of the time. She has made a pretty powerful network and hasn't wanted to use those contacts but is finally starting to (at our pushing) and is at least getting some responses now.
While there were issues with my mom later, growing up as a kid was pretty idyllic. Very much like @quilteryoyo. We played and ran all over our neighborhood such as it was (5 houses on a street backing to fields and farms). We played in one of the farmers field, rode his cows and used his barn as a club house. We also walked to school by ourselves, across the highway and rode our bikes to the Jr High 3 miles away (yes in the rain and snow). I think it is one of the reasons I love to run outside, it makes me feel that freedom just a little bit again.
Food - Well yesterday devolved into a mess. I did eat my yogurt for breakfast but then started working around the house and it was late to have lunch so just had some Chex mix from the leftover of what I made for dd's trip. DH made it to the Bay Area and invited some friends of ours over to watch the Bowl game Boise State was in so we had a virtual party with pizza and wine 🤣 I had my leftover BBQ chicken pizza from the airport and they had probably really good pizza. I can't eat regular pizza but the BBQ kind doesn't seem to bother my stomach.
Today DH should be home in the afternoon and I have an evening run with a group of friends to see Christmas lights near the beach. I am still going to try getting in a little something this morning as it is perfect running weather - cloudy and cool!
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@shanaber Hugs to your DD. I'm sure trying to be the adult she was reluctant to ask for help. Is there not loan forgiveness/ repayment options for her? Other than a deferment I mean, like DH get his paid for in exchange for so many hours of service? 6 months of no pay sounds like it warrants legal advice.
I keep thinking about the 90's TV series Northern Exposure. That doc got rooked into rural Alaska as a part of his loan forgiveness.1
