Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    @shanaber I agree with @Elise4270 . Not getting paid for six months is NOT right and legal advice might be the way to go. I hope she can find her dream job and get out of that mess and out of debt somehow.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Thanks guys - I agree on going for legal advice but she really needs this doc to give her a recommendation. I did tell her that as soon as she is back home she must have a meeting with her and insist on being paid.

    @elise4270 - she has a job offer for a small town between Spokane and the Canada border. Many of the homes have no running water. The first thing I thought of was Northern Exposure. She is going to interview with them when she is back in the states but will not likely take the job. At this point in her life it is just to far removed from everything.

    No loan forgiveness. She 'could' qualify for the federal program that will repay/forgive loans if you work for a qualified nonprofit for 10 years but unfortunately something like 95% of the people applying for it (after 10 years of working at the qualified nonprofit) have been turned down. There a few companies that will help with repayment that she would like to work for, like the Gates foundation and she has contacts there so maybe it will work out.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,336 Member
    @shanaber The only way I could see her not getting paid was if she agreed to not get paid to help a friend (fellow alumni) or someone out (there are these types of people with huge hearts). Otherwise, if they agreed on a salary and it wasn't delivered, then she needs to sue the doctor or clinic. I would encourage her to seek a job in a reputable hospital. It's great to help people, like doctors in low income clinics who care for citizens, but she could do that in her spare time. I think loan forgiveness is an agreement beforehand. I know it's frustrating.

    @Elise4270 Definitely the way the cookie crumbles... My roof, my rules.

    I didn't do as much running as I wanted to this weekend. This week should be better. I have less to do and husband will be home from Christmas through New Year's, which means I can get out more without little guy. I can't get more than an hour in with him because, unless he's sleeping, he gets restless and wants out of the stroller. Christmas day is supposed to be 72 degrees here and we're not celebrating Christmas until Thursday, so I'm planning to get a good, long run on on Christmas (hoping).
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,336 Member
    Nutritionally, I have not been doing fantastic over this past week. Today I'm getting back on track. We're celebrating Christmas with a ham dinner on Friday so I'd just like to stay on track until at least then. Eight weeks from yesterday is my marathon. I'm anxious but in an excited way, not nervous. It's supposed to be 69 today, so I'm going to get out this afternoon. Have a great day, ladies!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I am so tired these last few days. With dh sick and sleeping outside of the bedroom, I think my body was like “oh that’s sleep? We want more of it “. So tired. Light sleeper, pain, and a noisy spouse means no sleep for me.

    We leave tomorrow for Georgia. The idea was to visit alex for Christmas, I’m not sure how it’ll all go. We’ve told him if he’s drinking we’re not visiting. He “understands “ but won’t reply to my text a flew days ago asking if he wants to go on a few tours with us. I take that as an indication that he’s not committed to not drink. Can’t or won’t. Either way, fine by me. No Alex, I can have a beer or a spicy pirate Bloody Mary with my seafood dinner. And hope I don’t consume vibrio vulnificus. Dang micro class, what have you done to me! Ah, the vodka will kill it. Argh!

    Food plans
    Dh is on quest to find out if a kid (now 21) that he had with a woman is his. She said it was, then she said it wasn’t when they parted ways, so who knows. So he’d ordered the kid a family DNA kit for a Christmas gift. That’s kinda exciting for him. I know he really wants a kid. I told him he could adopt her if he wants, just because there’s no DNA doesn’t mean you can’t be there. That’s the best kind of family anyway. So hes off to mail his DNA with hopes and prayers and to fetch breakfast sandwiches. Long story for a sandwich, huh. I’m tired.

    Now go clean the cat boxes and start packing. Boo bear is being so lovey and up my rear. I think he knows
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,336 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I am so tired these last few days. With dh sick and sleeping outside of the bedroom, I think my body was like “oh that’s sleep? We want more of it “. So tired. Light sleeper, pain, and a noisy spouse means no sleep for me.

    We leave tomorrow for Georgia. The idea was to visit alex for Christmas, I’m not sure how it’ll all go. We’ve told him if he’s drinking we’re not visiting. He “understands “ but won’t reply to my text a flew days ago asking if he wants to go on a few tours with us. I take that as an indication that he’s not committed to not drink. Can’t or won’t. Either way, fine by me. No Alex, I can have a beer or a spicy pirate Bloody Mary with my seafood dinner. And hope I don’t consume vibrio vulnificus. Dang micro class, what have you done to me! Ah, the vodka will kill it. Argh!

    Food plans
    Dh is on quest to find out if a kid (now 21) that he had with a woman is his. She said it was, then she said it wasn’t when they parted ways, so who knows. So he’d ordered the kid a family DNA kit for a Christmas gift. That’s kinda exciting for him. I know he really wants a kid. I told him he could adopt her if he wants, just because there’s no DNA doesn’t mean you can’t be there. That’s the best kind of family anyway. So hes off to mail his DNA with hopes and prayers and to fetch breakfast sandwiches. Long story for a sandwich, huh. I’m tired.

    Now go clean the cat boxes and start packing. Boo bear is being so lovey and up my rear. I think he knows

    Very interesting and please keep us posted on DH's potential kiddo. I hope your son stays sober for you visit. Goodness, I'd be so mad if I was in your shoes and he didn't, but in a way it sounds like you have a backup plan with the hubby and tours if things go awry. I've never had a bloody Mary, must try it one day.
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    @shanaber - that's terrible they have paid her! I can't imagine she would even have that much savings. Nothing wrong with helping her out! Agree on the sodas! I gave them up in 2013 and no regrets! UGh got so mad at DH this weekend. He wanted to get a Red Bull before we went to dinner and to see a band! WHAT!!! He didn't get it because I got so mad. The doctor in the ER said the AFib could have been caused by a spike in caffeine.

    @elise4270 - hope the trip goes well to GA and that Alex is okay. Interesting on the DNA testing!

    I have a nice 4 mile run today. Yesterday was one mile and strength training - legs. They are sore today!
    I guess since tomorrow is xmas I will just do a one mile run for the streak.
    My DD and her BF are here from Oregon and we just made a ton of cookies! I ate too many but it's all okay.
    just like @shanaber said I can have some if I want.
    Today is our 34 year anniversary. We think next year for 35th we may go out to Oregon instead of being here! (assuming we make it through another Red Bull crisis).
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @ddmom0811 wow! I hope your DH reigns in the caffeine! I saw some caffeinated water the other day, perhaps that me an acceptable substitute. Happy Anniversary!


    We made it to Georgia. Nice dinner with Alex and his girlfriend. I'm so tired, but I'll have to stay up long enough to go to mass with dh. I should sleep well though.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    @ddmom0811 Happy Anniversary! I hope your DH will continue to curtail the caffeine, even when you aren't around to "make" him.

    @Elise4270 Glad you made it to GA and had a nice dinner with Alex. Hope the visit continues to go well.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    How did everyone do with the holiday indulging?

    Luckily for us, no one was open so it took us forever to find Thai food, and they were busy and service was slow. By time I finished my soup I could only eat half of my vegetable curry. (I didn't know curry was Thai) I ate light (ish) til the girlfriend gave us Oreo truffles. Uber sweet and I ate 2.

    I miss my cats. I'm ready to go home. I'm hopeful today goes by quick. I'm wore out.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    I did overindulge at Christmas, have left overs to eat today, and will continue to eat poorly next week. I'm just going to go with the flow and worry about it next year. So far the scale is being relatively kind. I did manage to get in a 3 mile run yesterday afternoon.

    From our previous discussion on hair and bad senior pictures, here is my embarrassing year book picture from 1977.
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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @quilteryoyo that is a lot of curly hair. Least no concerns of your hair thinking as you get older, just more manageable.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,336 Member
    I woke up at 4:30 and ate potato chips dipped in french onion dip plus whole milk for breakfast this morning. Since this wasn't the best decision, I'm going to try to not eat until dinner when it's spaghetti. I'm not counting any calories until Saturday but I'm still trying to be "mindful." Tomorrow we're having ham, green bean casserole, scalloped potatoes, and Jiffy corn casserole plus summer sausage, cheese and crackers. Dessert is Christmas cookies and chocolate chip bars. Hopefully, hopefully hopefully I'll get out for a long run in the morning. I'm heading out now for a 3 mile one but if I can squeeze in another run later today, I'd be thrilled! We're going to end up shopping so my kids can spend their gift cards. I hope everyone has a great day ❣️
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @ddmom0811 - Happy Anniversary!!
    @elise4270 - I am glad your visit with Alex is going well. Hang in there, I am sure it is stressful and wearing out. Does it seem like the girlfriend is a good influence on him? I am not an Oreo fan so those truffles would not tempt me. DH on the other hand would eat them all.

    I did well yesterday food wise. We basically had Thanksgiving revisited at dh's request. I made a pastry for breakfast and didn't eat lunch. The turkey was really slow getting up to temp so dinner was late but we had picked up shrimp for an appetizer so munched on those waiting for dinner to be ready. Oh and I also got in a 4+ mile run in the afternoon.

    I saved my pie last night and had it for breakfast this morning - probably not the best choice with no run planned today but it was tasty.

    I do have strength training this evening. Trainer told me on Tuesday that he has taken a new full time regular job and will need to be rethinking his training schedules ☹️ He may do group training which I am not really big into and would expect a big drop in what I pay so we will see. I have trained with him for over 9 years (started in September of 2010) and he is way more a friend than just a trainer at the gym. I may have to figure out how I can do it on my own and really get vested in getting to the gym and working out on my own a few days a week. I seem to be able to do it with running surely I can do it with my strength training. I guess I will also need to find some training plans like what @ddmom0811 uses.

    What are you all doing for New Year's? I think we are inviting the brother and sister-in-law over and on New Years day I will cook a ham. Or maybe we will get a spiral one and make sandwiches on NYE. I really just want the left overs so I can make split pea soup in the IP - I have been wanting it since before Thanksgiving!
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,336 Member
    I did overindulge at Christmas, have left overs to eat today, and will continue to eat poorly next week. I'm just going to go with the flow and worry about it next year. So far the scale is being relatively kind. I did manage to get in a 3 mile run yesterday afternoon.

    From our previous discussion on hair and bad senior pictures, here is my embarrassing year book picture from 1977.
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    The hair is humongous and a little laughable, but you still look lovely.
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    @quilteryoyo - Love the picture! Your story about it makes it funny.

    I did terrible with holiday eating the 24th and 25th. I'm pretty much back on track today though. I ran 5 miles this am, and then had a smoothie with almond milk, yogurt, blueberries and banana - plus honey. Then for lunch we went to Jason's Deli and I had a salad and a small ice cream afterwards. Dinner is veggie burgers and making fries with our new Air Fryer. I really didn't want this massive appliance brought into our house, but DH asked for one and so we now are the owners of one.

  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    Aww. Thank you @LoveyChar. I cringe every time I see that picture. It's no wander I didn't date in high school. LOL

    @ddmom0811 Totally understand. I had mentioned to my mom a while back that I was going to investigate dehydrators and maybe get one. I live alone and tend to waste veggies and fruit because I can't eat all that is in a package. I thought a dehydrator might be a way to cut down on the waste. Well, I never did the research, but am now a proud owner of a dehydrator. I hope I use it and it does what I want it to. Do any of you have one? If so, what is your favorite thing to use it for?
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @quilteryoyo - I have one that my daughter gave me after she got a bigger/newer one. The only thing I have ever used it for is drying fruit and making fruit leather. I haven't used it though in years.

    @ddmom0811 - you will have to let us know how you like it. I can't figure out honestly what all the hoopla is around them but maybe they are great. We just don't eat much, if any, fried food that I could imagine making in one.
  • Camaramandy648
    Camaramandy648 Posts: 711 Member
    Well I've hardly been logging lately and I really need to get back into it. Never a better time than now!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    My weight was up just a little bit today. That wasn't totally unexpected. For some reason, I was so thirsty yesterday. I drank water like it was going out of style and didn't really go pee that much, so I figured there would be some water gain today. Next week will be a really bad food week. Then, I'm hoping to get back on track and start the downward trend again.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Do you all or any have plans to use the new year as a time to recommit, reevaluate, or recalculate goals?


    I’m home and travel has always been a good way to change eating habits, I do plan on continuing to curtail what I eat. I found on this trip that if I ate a small amount, I was satisfied and didn’t need a giant plate of something. So I’m going to add that servings be “no bigger than than my hand”. Nothing rigid, just a reminder that I should watch portions. Yesterday once we got to Dallas and stopped at schlotzskys I had a small sandwich and regretted for a second that I didn’t order a Med. But, I waited to eat until I got home, (2 hours) and the small sandwich was good and I definitely could have stoped at half if I had the will. So shoveling a medium down would have been just gluttony.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @elise4270 - I definitely have plans to do all of these, reevaluate, recalculate and recommit to goals in the new year. Since so much is changing in my fitness world at the beginning of the year I need to figure out how to make it work for me again. Trainer can only commit to our normal schedule through mid-January and then he is 'hoping' to continue with group workouts one night a week. I need to get over to the local gym and sign up, actual gym won't be open until March but they have a temporary location, so I can start going on my own. I have some questions before I pay all the money but I am 90% sure I am going to sign up.

    I am actually enjoying my shorter runs and not pressuring myself to get out and run all the miles (more, more, more). I am still a little worried about the HM in February but will walk a good part of it if I need to. Then I am just going to run for fitness and enjoyment!

    Yesterday was a rare really bad eating day for me. Dh and I have had a few bumps lately that culminated on Christmas and I am not even sure that he is aware how much he hurt me. It reaffirmed for me how much of a stress release running and working out have become and made me realize what a tendency I have to emotional eating. I used to think it was all stress related but wow, I didn't even realize what I had done and how bad until I finished up logging last night.
    Today is a new day and it will be a better day!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I feel ya @shanaber. I can do good on my eating and let this leg/hip business get to me, academic stress, life stress, marital quips all get to me and give me one second of permission to eat. It just can't be helped ya know. Food triggers brain chemicals and calms us. I have no idea how to overwrite genetics or that deep instinctual drive to cope. It's funny to think that eating might be tied to our flight or fight response. Which would also support running as a way to de-stress. hmm...

    DH cooked breakfast for lunch. I already broke my new rule with 3 small biscuits, 2 eggs, 3 bacons, and 3 scoops of homemade bacon grease gravy. Excess calories anyone?

    and despite thinking i did wonderful on this trip, limited food too much movement, I am up 2 pounds. Well, just like i told DD, give it a few days, sometimes travel causes a bit of weight gain. *sigh*.

    So. Have we done a "whats your triggers" discussion? What triggers or behaviours do you notice set off food binges? or are you just a little in denial that your relationship with food is good, acceptable or perfect? haha! I'm going to have to think on this some... I definitively could examine my prompts to overindulge and make poor choices. Maybe it just tastes good and I'm hostage to the brain payoff. "Yay! eat! We survive another day". It does feel like a battle against instinct.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    @shanaber Sorry you had an emotional Christmas. Sometimes men can be so clueless.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    A big trigger for me is lack of sleep. If I’m tired I think I instinctively eat more trying to give myself energy, and it has the opposite effect. I have had to teach myself to just give up and go to bed early when I’m dragging, instead of trying to perk myself up and do the things I want to do.

    Re: the discussion of maternal influences a while back, here’s a photo of my grandmother the actress. This was taken about 1949 I think, for an article about local theater. Her TV show was on in 1953/1954. The article itself is funny because it goes to great lengths to explain how women can have careers AND families! And her husband thinks it’s great, hahaha! It’s also interesting that the article takes pains to point out she uses the name Miss Firstname Maidenname on the stage and Mrs Husbandname Marriedname socially.
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  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    @rheddmobile Your grandmother was beautiful! I love reading old articles in newspapers and magazines...even old encyclopedias. It definitely gives you a perspective on how quickly social norms have changed.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited December 2019
    @rheddmobile She is beautiful. First thought was that it was you until the image loaded further. Do you have her eyes?

    Lack of sleep is well documented with increased appetite. There is a hormone release to make up for the lack of rest. Another example how we are trying to outwit mother nature. crazy huh?

    ETA I wonder if a food journal would help. Perhaps writing down why i want to eat before I eat would help. MPF does have a notes section in the diary I think.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @rheddmobile - I agree with @elise4270. I think you look very much like her and she is beautiful!

    @elise4270 - I think I was one of those in denial about food triggers. I knew stress was a big one, especially work related stress but really I was shocked yesterday when I realized what I had done food-wise. So yeah - denial there big time.

    I like comment about running and the fight or flight response. Maybe that is why we get a runner's high. We feel success (relief) that we were able to run away from whatever our brain thought was out to get us!

    Keeping a food journal would definitely make me think more before just eating something.

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I am serious about getting serious. I have a plan to start a pre-meal log today. It will address why I am making the decision to eat and if I can do better. I am hoping it will help me be more mindful of my habits and identify when I can just have fruit or water or find an activity.

    DH fixed fajitas for lunch. So my first entry is moments away.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,581 Member
    Sounds like a great plan @Elise4270 .