Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @RunsOnEspresso buy some fat pants but not more than 2 pair and something that you won't wear out or get too comfortable wearing daily, something for home perhaps. Or add a belt so you can keep an eye on the notches. I'd hang in there and ride our the fluctuation. It very well could be temporary (inflammation, hormones, etc.)

    @quilteryoyo you'd think dd and ds being twins that they would have the same DNA but since they are fraternal they are more like siblings rather than identical where they are the product of 1 egg and 1 sperm. They may share the same maternal DNA if the egg split before it was fertilized, which the DNA test might have eluded too. They likely are from 2 separate eggs and 2 separate sperm each with different random genetic code. I haven't posited it with dd yet, to see if she had ideas. I think I'll swab the phone case and see if I get lucky.

    Cori...
    ...is sick. No idea what is going on with him. He is hiding in his box and won't eat or drink anything. Wont walk around, just laying there. He seems a little out of it, may have a bit of a limp on his right back leg. He purrs. I suspect a snake bite or perhaps he ate something toxic. Best I can guess is about 24 hours now. We keep checking on him and I'll see if I can get him to drink some tuna water later. So, vet tomorrow unless he takes a turn for the worse. Emergency vet is 2 hours away and most definitely a $1000+ visit.

    @rheddmobile how's the new to you car? how's your mum doing? How are you doing? How is your raccoon fam?
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,443 Member
    @rheddmobile So you have a comb or brush of Alex's. There may be a hair sample. Maybe an envelope that he would have licked to seal. Don't know how long those things remain viable. I hope Cori is okay and doesn't require the emergency vet.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    @quilteryoyo I think you meant to tag Elise.

    @swenson19d is there an ancestry service which will do ethnicity sequencing from found DNA like that? There’s a difference between sequencing for forensic purposes, where they just check a few locations to determine identity, and a full sequence in the millions of SNPs. Ancestry.com I know requires spit in a jar and can’t be done without a large amount of high-quality DNA - in fact with older people who don’t secrete as much DNA in their spit it often fails. I used to moderate for them and have fielded lots of questions from people asking can you sequence from a licked stamp, etc. and the answer is no. In addition their current terms of service don’t allow sequencing by anyone other than the person being sequenced, so no dead people. I’m not sure what it’s like with the couple of other companies which provide ethnicity info.

    It’s possible to extract DNA from all kinds of sources like teeth and get a full sequence but that is generally done by private labs such as universities who use a completely different process. The whole reason Ancestry is able to do theirs for such a tiny cost is that it can be done very quickly - a matter of hours - because they basically dissolve a ton of DNA into a soup then sort it out based on what overlaps with what. Like shredding a thousand copies of the same letter slightly differently, then reconstructing the letter based on which words overlap.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Re: my life - very tired right now because my mom’s housekeeper who has been staying nights with her is out of town this week because her grandbaby is running in the Junior Olympics in Houston. The kid is good - her poppa is a pro football player, and the whole family is athletically gifted - and placed 7th in her age group in the 200 m dash and I think 11th in long jump. But in the meantime I am so tired of my mom! She has gotten more physically able so it’s like trying to keep a puppy in an open box.

    I’m also worried about the housekeeper bringing Covid back from Houston to us. I was so ready to be over being worried about this. My county is now at its highest levels ever.

    The car is a success except that yesterday my driver’s side window suddenly wouldn’t roll down. Ah!! Will have to get that fixed, can’t go through a drive through without it. Which is just one more thing to find time for.

  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @rheddmobile Thanks for the info on the DNA. I suppose I'll abandoned the notion. Although it is possible if the teeth thing would work out. As a runner student ages ago, I'd run cantaloupes DNA through PCR to "grow" it, so there'd be a larger sample. And yes, you are right about the forensic purposes. I forgot that they only check certain markers. If I can retrieve some DNA, I might be able to ask the old summer professor to PCR it... I will put it on the back burner until opportunity presents. My Heritage uses cheek cells via swabs.

    My passenger side won't lock/unlock remotely. My routine service light is "on", 130,000 miles. Perhaps I'll get it fixed with the imposed service maintenance.

    I hope the housekeeper doesn't bring covid back too. DH and I were going to Texas to church today, but I chose to stay with Cori- who drank salmon water. DD was concerned we'd bring covid back to her since it is prevalent there. I can prompt dh to change clothes and shower, which might help if I cross my fingers long enough 🤷‍♀️.

    LOL, sorry about you mother driving you crazy. It's not funny. Dh drives me crazy and misery loves company. Hang in there.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    @swenson19d hugs, hope Cori is OK!

    @rheddmobile that's so annoying about the car window! The motor in my car stopped working a few weeks ago. Was a mission to get fixed cause parts are hard to get atm. Hope the housekeeper doesn't bring anything back.

    @runs_on_espresso I'm calling hormones. I hope it all stabilises soon.

    I'm supposed to go to work in an hr, but feel crampy and not happy. More like gas cramps than anything. Its freezing, windy and cold so I have not gone for a run. Will go tomorrow. I'm always shattered after a call weekend.
    Food. Blah. Back to weight I was a month ago. Oh well. Water weight.

  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,443 Member
    Thanks @rheddmobile ! I did tag the wrong person. I guess I've watched too many fake crime shows. LOL I hope you can get some much needed rest after the housekeeper gets back....and congrats to her grandbaby. That's awesome. I get you when it comes to CoVID. I was hoping we were getting to the point that we didn't have to worry anymore. Doesn't sound like that is the case. :disappointed:

    @Avidkeo Hope you feel better. I wouldn't have run in the cold freezing wind either. Hang in there with the food.

  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    Took Cori to the emergency vet…
    No idea what’s wrong with him. He had a fever of 104.8F (40.4C if I remember my math). Normal is 100.5-102.5F. Labs are okay. Nothing the vet could use to pinpoint his issue. He got antibiotic, NSAID, and steroid with a 200mL bolus of electrolytes/fluid subq. He ate and drank. I found him with a frog in his mouth in the house… of course I pick him up to put him and the frog outside and he drops the frog. No idea where it is now. Cori is resting after begging dd to give him crunchie treats. Fingers crossed he’s fine from here on. Official diagnosis is fever of unknown origin. I’ll take him to the local vet tomorrow if he’s back to feverish, not eating, and lazy
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Hi All - Sorry I have been so absent. Too much going on and I haven't felt real chatty lately. I have been reading along though, usually late at night when I can't sleep. I think I am stressing out about the estate process. We saw the attorney last week and agreed that we need to honor both Hilde and Hans wishes even though it was never properly split when Hans passed. So I have identified and located most everyone included along with an amazing number of charities, mostly cat related. The attorney will be posting a letter to everyone involved letting them know what is specified for them and then they have 120 days to contest it. I would hope that everyone will be pleased to get something but who knows... especially since the only actual relative included is one sister in Austria. I think this next week I should be able to get her cat situated at the 'retirement home' however they need to meet her first and decide if she qualifies. Don't know what I will do if she doesn't. What sucks is they can refuse to take her and since they are a listed beneficiary on 2 of Hilde's accounts they get the money regardless.
    I have been running and got out today for a long run, 10 miles. I am still doing the intervals and did some extra walking when I had a phone call but I was pleased I could actually go 10 and still be upright at the end. I think I may actually be able to finish the HM I signed up for but I am still considering a DNS. We'll see how I feel about it when it gets closer.
    Today was a fun day (after the run). It looks like we may be puppy sitting a 7mo Vizsla rescue at the end of the month. His new owners (who went to Georgia to get him) brought him over to see how he and Hobbes would get along. Oh my gosh they were like long lost buddies and had SO much fun. We are going to do another meet up where they will drop him off for a few hours and then an overnight before they actually go on vacation for 10 days. Since he is a rescue and they have only had him a month they don't want him to feel abandoned. A couple of pictures under the split.
    Wrestle Mania!
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    Beaux with his beautiful puppy eyes
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    Hobbes 'smiling' after having so much fun
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    @RunsOnEspresso - is it possible you aren't eating enough to fuel all your running? Eating a bit more really seemed to help me. I thought it was ridiculous thinking calories in/calories out should mean I lose some/more if I eat less, but my body apparently wasn't happy that I wasn't giving it enough.
    @swenson19d - I know for 23&Me as well as the genetic testing I had done through my medical was all done with saliva. I don't know of any that would do what you are looking for other than through some sort of private lab like @rheddmobile mentioned.
    I hope Cori is ok and wasn't snake bit or poisoned!
    @rheddmobile - have you made any progress with getting your mom used to the idea of going to a retirement/assisted living center?
    @CMorning99 - glad you got the information you needed from the treadmill guy. Hope the insurance company accepts it and you can get a new treadmill. I hope the smoke is not too terrible up in Sacramento and that you can actually get there. So many fires up that way - just devastating! What happened with the pad when you got to the ranch? Did the guy have a valid reason for not putting it where you originally told him to put it?

  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @swenson19d - could it have been poison from the frog that made Cori sick? I hope you find the frog and he doesn't crawl under something and die... that is always my fear when we get lizards and things in the house.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber I had thought about that as well but I don't want to eat just to eat. If I'm not hungry I don't want to shovel food in.

    I'm trying to eat a little before running and after but both times are hard for me. I struggle to eat at 4 or 5 am and then usually not hungry after. I've been drinking chocolate milk after long runs. Easier to drink.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @RunsOnEspresso - I am getting better about eating before but I don't run that early. I have to have time for it to settle before I head out too. Afterwards is tough for me as well and I usually end up having a protein shake and follow it with some carbs after I shower. Not the best but better than nothing. The nutritionist I saw a while back was really adamant about my eating something as soon as I got home even if I didn't feel like it - it is just hard to do that.
    Yesterday after my long run I had a cold latte and my protein shake, a piece of banana bread a while later and then didn't eat until dinner. I was way under calories for the day but then didn't want to eat before bed either (messes with my thyroid medication if I do).

    @swenson19d - did you find the frog? How is Cori doing today?
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @shanaber I am sure the cat home will take the cat being a beneficiary. Who is so cold to take the money and not the cat? I would think if they don't, that you wouldn't have a problem finding someone to take it. It's the ideal cat for someone that isn't keen on messing with the kitten stage. You can send her here if all else fails. OMG so happy for Hobbes! Don't stress about the estate. Let the chips fall where they may, you are helping out so be okay with that.

    Cori
    is somewhat better today. Still not up and about but ate when I put wet food in front of him. tried to use the litter but no pp. Off and on fever but doesn't seem as high today. He bounces from "sorta there" to purring and alert. He sees the local vet at 430pm. They wanted to push him out til Wednesday, I said I was not comfortable with that and was offered today. I get they need to reserve it for emergency work ins. Either they see him today or someone else will. I put him on my bed away from Beary, who misses his play buddy (lick lick chomp chomp chomp as he entices him to wrestle).
    My fear is that it is something bad. Dh is bad at dropping meds, what if he ate one. (dh has surgery schedule for cubital tunnel in a few weeks-effects his ability to hold on to stuff). Cori's bilirubin was high, worrisome to me. I never found the frog. Usually I find them later, desiccated in a corner. I think this one got away under the couch which is a sectional and impossible to get under without disassembling.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    I signed up for Stitch Fix. Anyone have any experience with this kind of service? I figure if they just send me fat pant, I'll wear them LOL!. I hate shopping and we have Pennys, Walmart, ross, and tj maxx (terrible selections). I'm kinda excited about it.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    Cori update.
    *sigh* high probability that it is something fatal, FIP or cytauxzoonosis. Blood smear results tomorrow which will show if he has zoonosis. Hoping for a UTI or something benign. cross your fingers for Cori.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,443 Member
    edited August 2021
    @swenson19d Fingers crossed that the blood work shows something easy to deal with.

    @shanaber That is a lot to deal with. It seems unfair for the organization to get the money if they don't take the cat. Hope it all goes smoothly for you. Enjoy puppy sitting. It's great that they got along so well with the initial visit.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    edited August 2021
    Oh @swenson19d - I certainly hope it is nothing fatal and just a UTI. Seems like cats, especially male cats get those a lot. Sending good thoughts Cori's way!
    Stitch Fix - I have not used any service like that although I have been tempted a few times, mostly when I was working. Now I have no need. I have several friends though that used it a loved it and highly recommended it. It was a while ago and I don't know if the service has changed though.

    So I called Hilde's vet yesterday about getting the letter from him stating that she didn't have any underlying health issues that would prevent her from going to the retirement home. I always felt that this vet was taking advantage of Hilde, running up huge bills for things that were unnecessary and there was never anything wrong with the cat. He just examined her in June because Hilde was convinced she just wasn't right (she was lying on her back and meowing and purring - must be in pain, right?). After blood work, ultrasound, x-rays, etc. he found nothing wrong. So the scheduler called me back and said he has to examine her before he will provide the letter. My reaction (didn't mean to say it out loud) was a sarcastic 'well of course he does'. She responded that 'you know he had to have Mitzi picked up at the house last time and she really wasn't doing well'. I don't think they realize I saw her every day, put her in the crate so they could pick her up and they only picked her up because Hilde didn't want to bother me to take her and bring her back. Other than being a bit overweight and somewhat unfriendly there is nothing wrong with the cat!

    On a fun note - agility class was so fun last night. A fun course for us and the dogs loved it cause there were sections they could just zoom through. If it will let me I will post a video (had to put it on YouTube) of the end of the course.
    The tunnel was like blasting them out of a cannon and so fun to see how fast they all wanted to go down the straight line of jumps. Note by this run I think the pups and all of us were all getting a little tired too 😂 Hobbes and I also ran this part twice on this run so Jen could get the video. You can see me just fade away and not even try to keep up with him.
    https://youtu.be/_VTWMJS0yYE

  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    Lol! @shanaber I’m glad you said it aloud! People really need to be called out and it social politeness should be disregarded when needed.

    No word yet on cori’s blood smear results. The receptionist phoned at 11am asking how he was doing today. He ate a bit, drank some tuna water, and peed twice. No bm in 2-3 days though. He has some antibiotics and I bet those get him going soon. He let himself outside a bit to lay on the porch, I had to rescue him from bear chomping on his beloved cori snack. Overall he is improving. If Dh goes to the store, I might remember to ask for some yogurt for him.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber I probably would have responded with, "really? When I put her the crate she seemed fine"
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    @swenson19d hopefully cori keeps improving!!
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    @shanaber re: the situation with my mom, it’s complicated because she keeps improving, but not quite enough to be on her own. I feel like there will be a downturn at some point and we will have to scramble then so we should probably act now, but there are reasons not to want to upend things. For example, I like our place in the country and hope to keep it, and losing it forever to put her in expensive care for a few years is something I would prefer to avoid.

    We do have her housekeeper acting as a caretaker which is taking some of the pressure off. Her housekeeper as a housekeeper is honestly terrible, but as a caretaker she’s pretty good. She is trained as a medical technician so she can be trusted to give meds, take bp and bg and so on, and she stays out of our hair which is lovely. As a housekeeper she seriously makes me wonder if she’s on crack sometimes though. For example, she will start to sweep and then leave little piles of dust swept into piles without removing them. There was a glass bottle in the windowsill in the spare bathroom which wasps keep getting into, and then dying because they can’t get out. So she cleans the bathroom, cleans the windowsill, but leaves this decorative jar of dead wasps there and doesn’t empty them out because why?
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    edited August 2021
    @RunsOnEspresso - I may just say that when I take her over on Thursday for her unnecessary exam.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @rheddmobile - it makes sense to leave things in the status quo for your mom. I just hope you are taking care of yourselves and not getting too stressed out by it all, it is such a weight bearing down.
    I had to laugh at your description of the housekeeper! The lady we had who became like a family member/close friend wouldn't throw things away either, even dead flowers in a vase. I think she was afraid if it was there maybe it was something wanted for some reason (she would even change the water so it didn't smell). She also swept the dust and dirt into small piles around the house but she did go back and clean them all up before she left. She was also a licensed home health caretaker and when Hilde came back home we hired her to ostensibly clean for Hilde but she really helped in many ways that Hilde wouldn't allow us to. She also kept me informed on anything that was out of the ordinary that she saw and I might have missed. We regularly compared Hilde notes...

    It's hot, Dh doesn't want to grill the chicken I have out (too hot outside and to his credit the sun beats down directly on the grill area) and he doesn't want me to cook anything in the kitchen and heat up the house. So that means take out. He already had take out for breakfast and lunch and got me a salad for lunch. Makes me crazy that we are retired and home all day and he can't manage to find anything to eat in our house... (I have homemade sourdough bread, eggs, bacon, sourdough banana bread, cheese, salad fixings, etc. etc...) it's not like there isn't any food in the house or anything he likes.
    I ordered a toaster oven. Dd got a new one she loves but they have been constantly in and then immediately out of stock both on Amazon and directly from the manufacturer. I kept trying to order when I would see it then it would be out of stock. So order is now in but delivery is not until September!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,443 Member
    @shanaber So glad that you all enjoyed agility. It looks like Hobbes was having a blast. Sorry about the vet. Could you take the cat to a different vet to get the letter?

    @swenson19d I hope Cori continues to improve.

    @RunsOnEspresso I love your response.

    @rheddmobile I'm glad the housekeeper is a good caregiver, at least. I hope it all works out so that you can keep her home. I think it is better as long as she can safely do so.



  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    @swenson19d you won't believe what arrived today!
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  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    YAY @avidkeo!!!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,443 Member
    Glad it finally got there @Avidkeo !
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @Avidkeo yay!!!!! about time!

    I am achey. I dun wanna drive to Dallas today. I was thinking about canceling. Then my stitchfix box showed up. I crossed my fingers that it was at the very least, acceptable. The fat pants are comfortable, an 8 and I have been squeezing into 6's. I have 4 new shirts. I like all of them. The fabrics are all soft, green (my fave), burgundy (2nd fav), a lacy black one with a layer under so I'm proper, and a "native" type, maybe Indian (boho?) inspired white 3/4 sleeve one. I would never have chosen any of them in the store, but am excited to start tossing out some old clothes. Thank baby Buddha (and the like), I have attire. I am looking forward to my day in new clothes, with some Tylenol.

    Cori
    Is at least 80-90%. He's making up for not eating the last 3ish days, playing a bit, but wants to play with Beanie and is shunning Bear- not up to the romp & chomp I guess. He's back to yowling/demanding attention/food/outside. He came to the cat window looking in and I encourage him to open it and come in (it's new, he's still getting used to it). Bear was inside, Cori out. I told bear to open the door for him and let him in and he did. Well, he opened it on the way out and before it shut Cori came in. LOL! Then bear was out and I asked if he wanted in and opened it. He reached in and grabbed it, pulling it shut, "Iz dun need no help mama". Silly goose.

    So now if I can focus on moving the scale, maybe I can stay in my new clothes. I'm 6 pounds over "do something!". I ate a salad yesterday. Not sure why I haven't lost 10 pounds yet 😏

    Well time to get ready to wear my new threads and not eat like an abandoned child.

    Self-care. It's a thing. Invest in yourself.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I updated my meals goal the other day but it hasn't updated in my diary. But if I go into the goals/settings it shows the new numbers. Sigh. Get your *kitten* together MFP! LOL
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    swenson19d wrote: »
    @Avidkeo yay!!!!! about time!

    I am achey. I dun wanna drive to Dallas today. I was thinking about canceling. Then my stitchfix box showed up. I crossed my fingers that it was at the very least, acceptable. The fat pants are comfortable, an 8 and I have been squeezing into 6's. I have 4 new shirts. I like all of them. The fabrics are all soft, green (my fave), burgundy (2nd fav), a lacy black one with a layer under so I'm proper, and a "native" type, maybe Indian (boho?) inspired white 3/4 sleeve one. I would never have chosen any of them in the store, but am excited to start tossing out some old clothes. Thank baby Buddha (and the like), I have attire. I am looking forward to my day in new clothes, with some Tylenol.

    Cori
    Is at least 80-90%. He's making up for not eating the last 3ish days, playing a bit, but wants to play with Beanie and is shunning Bear- not up to the romp & chomp I guess. He's back to yowling/demanding attention/food/outside. He came to the cat window looking in and I encourage him to open it and come in (it's new, he's still getting used to it). Bear was inside, Cori out. I told bear to open the door for him and let him in and he did. Well, he opened it on the way out and before it shut Cori came in. LOL! Then bear was out and I asked if he wanted in and opened it. He reached in and grabbed it, pulling it shut, "Iz dun need no help mama". Silly goose.

    So now if I can focus on moving the scale, maybe I can stay in my new clothes. I'm 6 pounds over "do something!". I ate a salad yesterday. Not sure why I haven't lost 10 pounds yet 😏

    Well time to get ready to wear my new threads and not eat like an abandoned child.

    Self-care. It's a thing. Invest in yourself.

    So glad cori is coming right! And yay for new threads, so exciting.

    @runs_on_espresso that's so annoying!

    Spent last night playing with my new toy. Got it all set and ready to go, thanks so so much! Will be taking it to work today to work on a presentation I have on Saturday. I'm also on call tonight, so might get tomorrow off. Saturday I'm up at 530 to drive 3hrs for a study day.

    Foods been good this week. So far.