Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    Well that explains that @shanaber . So glad you got your MRI and hope you hear from your doctor soon with the results and get a plan to get better.
  • swenson19d
    swenson19d Posts: 789 Member
    @shanaber I did not get the hair cut. It was hard to find, construction in downtown. I was 2 hours early and decided to get Panera and go home. No good cry. Dh keeps me angry. He’s still in a mental state of being angry. I told him he needs to see a counselor or psychiatrist. He agreed. We shall see.
    I have to go with him to his family deal tomorrow. It’s Easter. Which is a religious holiday, but they don’t go to church, so I don’t understand the celebration. I don’t like holidays. I don’t wanna go. I don’t like them, they lie, and ow me money, I don’t like dh and I don’t wanna go. I’m taking Sandy and homework so I can sit alone. I feel a fit brewing over it.


    I had the steroid shot on Thursday. I’ll say that it is probably going to help. I noticed the soreness I get from drive to and from Dallas was quite a bit less. My shoulders were sore from laying on my stomach for 10-15 mins during. I’m waiting til Wednesday for the steroid to kick in, but it does seem to be better. I can tell that the front of my hip and outside hurt. Noting new, or identifying the pain means the back has quieted and I can tell. Doc said I have bone spurs in the si joint. Guess that means I have osteoarthritis. I have them in my shoulders, and hips too. Wonder if 50 is young for that, or normal. I’ve been trying to take nsaids but, got flush yesterday and have intestinal swelling. Oh well.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @swenson19d I hope DH follows through with the counselor or psychiatrist. Also, I hope you can find a way to enjoy your family get together tomorrow. Sometimes it's really hard. I'm glad it sounds like the steroid shot is helping some at least. Hugs to you.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @swenson19d - I hope Eric works things out in his mind, gets the anger under control and goes and talks to someone. Sounds like he needs to do all three. What is it with guys and not being willing too talk to someone whether a therapist or a medical professional? I would think he would at least be cognizant of his need considering it is what he does for a living...
    I'm sorry you couldn't get in to get the haircut. It almost always improves my spirits. Have you been out to Alex' grave recently? Maybe you need to go there and just have a good cry and talk things over with him?
    I get you on going to see family on Easter. It has never really been a big deal for us but some families see it as a reason to just get everyone together, kick off spring or whatever. I am sure Sandy will be a hit with everyone and will keep you company if you aren't feeling very sociable. Have. you heard any more from the trainer on how Kevin is doing with the training? I bet he misses you and Sandy!
    I have had osteoarthritis for many years. It runs in my family and both my brother and cousin were diagnosed in their late 30s. My cousin was working as a carpenter and couldn't manage the tools any longer. I have it in my hands, hips, feet and knees. Probably other places too but those are the ones identified so far. Arthritis strength Tylenol is what I take if I have to take something for it. Did the doctor suggest anything to remove the bone spur in your shoulder? I have also heard about this 'supplement' called Previnex Joint Health that is supposed to really help. I have not tried it but if mine gets worse I would consider it.

    I tried a run today, really wanted to run because it was just perfect out, but my arm started throbbing and nothing I did seemed to help. I did a fast walk and kept my arm in what my dh calls the broken wing position (arm bent and tucked in close to my body with my hand on my chest) most of the entire time. Took a shower and some Tylenol and it is better now but it left me in a really bad place, I am frustrated and angry and sad all in one... DH told me 'it sucks getting old and you need to take better care of yourself'. I was honestly WTH? this from the guy who is experiencing better living through chemistry because he can't manage eating a healthy diet or getting out for even a walk.

    I did listen to an interesting podcast today 'Keto, Fasting, Food Phobia and Un-Dieting of Menopause'
    They go into detail about how keto impacts your body as well as fasting and other types of dieting, including logging and tracking...The guest is a big proponent of intuitive eating and not making any food completely off limits. Very interesting.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @shanaber It's funny how DH thinks you should take care of yourself when he isn't doing it himself. It's so much easier to see other people's faults than it is to see our own. I do think logging is the only way that I can lose and maintain a decent weight. When I eat "intuitively" I eat way too much. Not hungry usually, but just eat because it is there. I should listen to the pod-cast though. I do agree about not making any food completely off limits. If I do that it's the only thing I want. I guess it's the little bit of rebel in me. LOL Everything in moderation is my moto, but I'm not always good at the moderation part.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @quilteryoyo - It has taken me a long while to eat more or less intuitively but I still log my food, mostly to make sure I am getting enough protein and enough calories because I tend to under eat overall.
    I think dh really wants me to be more careful and less clumsy... he doesn't think I should be running but while not exactly supportive her doesn't give me a hard time about it. I don't think he considers how it impacts my health overall and that I take no medications except for my thyroid, while he has an entire pharmacy going...

    I am feeling better about things today. Not sure what changed my attitude but it is beautiful out and the birds are having a songfest 😁 Arm is still very sore and I have no clue why. I have been pretty vigilant about not lifting/carrying anything with that hand, not even my coffee cup. Hopefully. will get the MRI results this next week but don't see the ortho doc until the 26th.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @shanaber Well, it's good that DH has your best interest at heart, I guess. If being clumsy/having accidents was something we could control, we'd all be a lot safer. But, that is why they are called accidents and not "intentionals." :wink: I'm glad your feeling better today. Sometimes you just have to mull things over. Birds singing helps too. I do hope you get the MRI results this week. Waiting is the worst.
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    Good morning!

    @shanaber Mom was always frustrated with her injuries and such, she would call me and say "where is the damn owners manual on getting old!" LOL I wish I could intuitively eat, I am still looking for what works for me. I just don't have the drive to cut my calories low again.

    Nothing much going on here.

    Grey cat is still getting better. We seem to be past the nausea bit, no idea what it was. The last 2 meals he has been eating well and I have been able to put all his meds in his kitty crack and he happily eats it. He has 11 more days of antibiotics. We are going to try and take his eye drops down to 3x a day vs every 4 hours and see how he does.

    Weekend was good. I did a big push on reselling and got a lot of photos done. Ran a mini-sale on eBay and did well. The other platform still has not sorted themselves out. I can't wait to see their 1st qtr financials since they say they are still doing fine. It drizzled on Saturday and on Sunday DH and I were woken at 6:15 with a rocket launch and decided to go to the ranch and tackle some weeds. We picked up some cute Easter donuts and delivered them to neighbors. We ended up socializing for a couple hours instead of working. Oops. LOL. One of mom's friends came by to see what I had been working on and had herself a good cry, so many people are still hurting so much. We finally got down to business and sprayed 13 gallons of weed killer to get after the thistle, milkweed, mustard, and coyote brush. I am fine with mowing the grass, but this stuff i don't want around.

    This week is more of trying to get back on track. I still have not called to make appts for my referrals. The last big group of guys are flying out tomorrow for deployments, so paperwork will die down.

    Plan on doing the 3 WOGs again this week. Yesterday I had 20 oz of water and then had Thai for lunch/dinner so I am a bag of salt water right now, my ring is quite tight. I also really want a peloton lol, I swear there are subliminal messages in their app for running LOL.

    I have the Boston marathon playing, surprisingly someone was missed in their scrubbing of people live streaming it without permission. Men' just finished...5:16 min mile avg.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @CMorning99 I'm so glad to hear that Grey Cat is doing better. I always loved watching the rocket launches. Sounds like you would have rather slept in. LOL Hope the weed killer works. I actually kind of like milkweed and the butterflies love them, but understand that they can be a pain if they are growing in the wrong spot. Also glad you got some of your reselling done. Great job on getting the wogs in. I'm with you on feeling like a bag of salt water. I gained 3 pounds between Sunday and Monday morning. Not sure what was so salty at lunch on Sunday, but there was something! I had forgotten that the Boston Marathon was yesterday, until I heard it on the morning news, then totally forgot about it again. I can't imagine running 26.2 miles at a 5:16 miles pace. Heck, I can't imagine running a quarter mile at that pace. :lol:
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @cmorning99 - sounds like your weekend was pretty good. As @quilteryoyo said milkweed is loved by butterflies and is the preferred food of monarch butterflies and I have even seen things encouraging people to plant more of it. Unfortunately a lot of what is sold and planed (or growing wild) these days is not the kind that the monarch butterflies like.
    I hope you can get the weeds under control! I find it amazing that in a time of drought when other plants are dieing the weeds just keep thriving - they must be the ultimate drought resistant plants on earth!
    @quilteryoyo - don't know if you saw my post in the running challenge about garygse - he ran Boston in an average 7 + change minute mile, finished just over 3 hours!!! I can't even contemplate those paces. It sure would make running 5 or 6 miles a LOT quicker 😁

    So I got the MRI results back. Not at all what I was expecting and it will be interesting to hear what the ortho thinks and how we will proceed. If you recall he initially thought I had a torn biceps tendon which from what I read would be consistent with the bruising and pain I am having. The MRI results though show the biceps tendon is fine and another tendon up in my shoulder has a greater than 50% tear. But the strangest thing is it also shows that I broke the top of my humerus...

    For the medical technical folks here, @swenson19d, @Avidkeo, @rheddmobile this is the overall specifics from the report:
    FRACTURE OF THE LESSER TUBEROSITY OF THE RIGHT HUMERUS.
    There is cortical irregularity and bone marrow edema of the lesser tuberosity suggestive for a fracture. The subscapularis and biceps tendon are intact.

    HIGH-GRADE BURSAL SURFACE PARTIAL TEAR VERSUS FULL-THICKNESS TEAR OF THE SUPRASPINATUS TENDON.
    The tear may also involve the infraspinatus tendon.
    There is fatty infiltration of the supraspinatus muscle.

    I was exhausted last night after little sleep Sunday night and my long walk and agility yesterday. I took some Tylenol before agility class and it kicked in about middle of class. I actually thought about not going but I am glad I did. Hobbes loves it so much. We both slept great 😁
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @shanaber I did see your post. I agree. I can't even imagine running at that pace for even a quarter of a mile, let alone 26.2! :lol: He's amazing. And, you are right...it sure would make it a lot quicker to get in those 6 mile runs. Oh my on the MRI results! It will be interesting to see what the ortho says. No wonder it has been so painful! Glad you enjoyed agility class and slept great last night.

    I almost forgot to tell you guys about my non-scale victory....well, I guess it was a victory. At least it was a pleasant surprise. I had been trying to decide what to wear for church on Easter. I wanted to wear something with some color and about the only thing I had was a size 8 dress I had bought a few years ago when I was at a skinny point. I think the scale is showing that I'm at least 5 pounds more, maybe 10, than I was then. I almost didn't try it on because I was afraid of how I would feel when I couldn't get it on. Well, it fit! I was so happy. There's a picture of me and mom at church in the spoiler.
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  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    That is awesome @quilteryoyo! You look awesome!
    I do find it interesting how our body composition changes and while we may have gained a little weight our clothes still fit. My gauge is always my jeans. If they start to feel tight I know I need to get serious again regardless of what the scale says.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber wow! That is crazy about your MRI. I look forward to hearing what the docs say.

    @quilteryoyo Woo! So happy you fit in your dress! A nice reminder that the number on the scale may not be the whole story
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    Thanks @shanaber and @RunsOnEspresso . And you are so right about the number on the scale not being the entire story.
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    good morning!

    @shanaber Wow sometimes the doctors get it so wrong! When I broke my arm, it took them 2 weeks to figure it out, said I had a sprain and I actually had a clean break of the head of the lower arm bones. Glad they know what is wrong and you are on the way to recovery.

    @quilteryoyo Glad the dress fit! and yes, body size seems to have nothing to do with weight. I have "only" gained about 9lbs since mom died, but I am up about 4 sizes...muscle gone and fat in.

    Another week in the office. Nothing exciting going on, all our deployers got out ok and on their way to summer camp :) Kitties doing well. Although I think grey cat is a bit backed up from all this antibiotics. We have him on probiotics, but the meds probably kill them off as soon as he eats them. We have 10 more days but I am thinking he may not need it...no weird colored fluids in at least 5 days.

    Finally got around to calling to make appts for my referrals. Such a pain in the butt. None of the phone numbers were correct on the referrals so I had to hunt them down and then get the right numbers and have the insurance send them again. One office (neurology) was a complete jerk. They said they don't accept authorization letters from the insurance. They only accept referral letters with med records attached from your primary are doctor. I explained that is no how my insurance works as AD military. She said "well, if we get an authorization letter, we throw them away until we get the referral from the doctor"...WTF? This is why I don't go to the doctor. I told my friend about it and she said another friend got the same answer from another neurology doctor in another state....must just be those types of doctors. I am going to talk to the clinic today and see if they will send records, IDK what records b/c all I have had are xrays but I suspect they will never make it.

    WOG yesterday, but not today. The power went out at midnight and we have Hue lights so when the power comes back on, every light attached to the base station comes on..it came back on about 20 min later so we had to get up and turn them all off. I didn't recover from that interruption.

    Well, need to make some Chewy orders and then see what is on the schedule for the day.

  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Cross post from the Facebook group:

    I know this is short notice but I am recording my podcast on Saturday. The topic is going to be body image. Is there anything specific you think I should address? Anything you want to add (anonymously of course).
    I haven't written it yet and will probably work on it tonight and tomorrow.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @RunsOnEspresso - I think one body image topic that isn't talked about much is how its might keep you. from doing things that you want to do... could be anything but things like going to a gym which can be intimidating anyways, but if you feel like you are not 'fit' enough or don't have the 'gym' body then you don't belong (from personal experience I felt this way for so long). Same with running. So many people are embarrassed to start running because they don't want anyone to see them especially if they are over weight and don't feel like they fit the type of person who could run.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @CMorning99 I was told to give Tippy pumpkin when she was backed up. Can you do that for Grey cat?
    That's so crazy about the neurologist's response to active duty military. Sounds like they just don't want to deal with the bureaucracy. I hope you can get it worked out. Could you call your congressman's office to report this experience since they are supposed to be trying to make it easier for the military to get the care they need? Yeah for the wog.

    @RunsOnEspresso I don't think I have anything to add, but it is a great topic. I really need to listen to your podcasts.

    So true @shanaber . I remember someone on the running thread talking about their daughter (can't recall who it was) not wanting to run because her thighs rubbed together and she didn't want to be seen in shorts. I suggested running skorts, but not sure whatever came of that.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber great point! I really need to start writing it today lol

    @quilteryoyo I only have like 20 some episodes and they are usually 20 min or less. It's crazy how much writing it takes to fill 15-20 min!

    I have the thigh rub issue. I look for 7-8 inch inseam shorts. They are harder to find but are out there! Old Navy usually has some at least online. Oiselle and sometimes Nike. And I saw some in the saucony catalog I.got yesterday. I think more brands are adding longer shorts. I wear my short shorts for weight lifting at home, never running.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    While out an about today I did think of something that is possibly related that you could use @RunsOnEspresso . That is clothing styles and fit. I remember when I was in college, and later, I could never find anything that fit right. Looking back at pictures, I really had a pretty decent body, but I thought it must be "bad" because I couldn't find any clothes, especially pants, that fit right. I was curvy...like 36-24-36 ideal curvy, but I could never find pants that fit right. If they fit around the waist, I couldn't get them over my hips. If they fit in the hips, they were way to big around the waist. So, how could that be a good body size. Obviously, something was "wrong" with me and I thought I was "fat," or at the least had a big butt. I still have a hard time finding clothes I like that fit. When I was bigger, I thought all of the skinny clothes were pretty and none of the bigger sizes. Now that I'm smaller, I can't find anything in my size that I like, but the bigger ones sure do look pretty. Maybe that is another issue or aspect of body image? Who knows.
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    Good morning!

    It is sprinkling here today, the weather lady said this was probably our last chance of ran this season and we are only expecting 1/4 of an inch.

    @runsonespresso I really like the idea of talking about not doing things because I am embarrassed about my weight gain or more so, my fitness level. When I am going on vacay in May, some of my Mom's friend are coming to see me, and my first thought was "oh, they are going to see how fat I got". I LOVE Oiselle pocket joggers and their longer shorts with pockets, they are the only ones that fit. I always have my eye out for them on used clothing sites since they are so pricey new.

    I was thinking how lazy I have gotten after work lately. Pretty much change, maybe do 1 or 2 things and then my butt is planted on the couch. I usually get home around 4:30 and dinner is at 5:30 ish...then an episode of Knight Rider, those are an hour and it is time to get ready for bed it seems. I feel like I should be doing more.

    Got a WOG in this AM, working towards a JOG 20 min straight. I wore some old Hoka's this AM and my ankles and lower legs were really working. I think my ankles wobble a lot more with all the cushion. I quit running in them a couple years back after 2 bouts of severe IT band issues while wearing them. There were other factors involved I am sure, but since I quit, my IT band tightness is normal. I seem to do better with the firmer foams, currently loving Saucony endorphins right now.

    Food was meh yesterday. I started off ok, but at lunch DH and I ordered a goat cheese hamburger and as we were picking it up from the grill (we were eating at the chow hall) I saw it was allegedly 1100 calorie.. damn damn damn. DH loves to snack in front of the TV, he can eat a big dinner and then get a big bowl of PB pretzels, pub mix, etc and just crunch away. He is not immune though and has developed a bit of a gut...there is a top about body image...why does it seem men don't care about having a gut? He just goes out and buys a bigger shirt or pants. So yesterday was a bust.

    Lead guy is gone for the rest of the week at work so the kiddo and I are muddling through the best we can. Quite humorous. We get a long great and she is still a good worker. Seems she just needed a different leadership style and a job with a lot of flexibility.

    Best get to it, have 3 more going out the door in 2 months.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @quilteryoyo Yes! Great topic, could probably be its own podcast LOL I have always had the same issue with pants. wider hips, bigger butt, and small waist. My measurements have always fallen into the actual definition of curvy with my waist being 8-10" smaller than bust and hips. I remember one year when we had biometric testing the woman measured my hips and then lectured me about having a waist measurement over 34 or whatever. I ignored her because I'm like *kitten* you measured my hips!

    @CMorning99 yes, that's another good point about not wanting to do or see people when you don't feel fit. And as for men, I think some of that is related to patriarchy and media. Ever notice how all the middle age actors are called hot dad bods but for women it's like she gained weight! or whatever other crap they say about them.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @RunsOnEspresso - I also like the somewhat longer (7") running shorts but more because I am just not comfortable in the short shorts... My favorites are Lucy shorts but they are no longer a company (NorthFace bought them out, were supposeedly continuing the sales but then all disappeared) The Lucy shorts never creep up and they were one of the first to have 2 side pockets in their shorts and capris. When they were closing I bought all the ones I liked in every color, available in my size and I am still wearing them!
    @quilteryoyo - I have the same issue with clothes fitting right but for different reasons. I don't have much of a butt and my waist to butt ratio is small. Most pants, even now, have a small waist compared to the butt and to get the waist to fit the butt is huge... I have found some brands have tried to create styles for different body types in the last few years. Ann Taylor is one. They are expensive but I bought a couple of pairs of jeans on sale that fit perfectly and have lasted now for several years. When I was working I would have to have all my pants tailored to get them to fit correctly.
    Another issue I had along those same lines was when I lost so much weight and literally had to get new clothes (old suits, etc could not be taken in anymore) I had the hardest time seeing myself in a smaller size. I would invariably pick out things that were way too large. It has taken many years to get beyond that and I still at times think oh I need an XL in this when really I need a small. It is tough to reset our image of ourselves.
    @CMorning99 - so glad your kiddo is working out! Sometimes all it takes is someone being understanding for another to flourish.
    Since we started the eating between 8:30am and 5:30 pm my dh no longer snacks at night. Once in a great while we will have a dessert or a piece of chocolate but usually not. I am still trying to encourage him to go for a short walk in the evenings with me after dinner but trying not to nag. Since he started new diabetes medications and his numbers have dropped well into the normal range he no longer seems to have much incentive to change. 'Better living through chemistry...
    Also I cannot run on cushioned shoes. Even walking in them makes my knees hurt.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @CMorning99 It is so hard to get out and exercise after work. I can do it, but it is hard. I have to go before I fix dinner or sit down, or it just won't get done. Good job on getting in the wogs. That's a great way to get back into running. Glad your new worker is working out.

    @RunsOnEspresso That's hilarious about her fussing at your waist size when it was your hips. I think I would have pointed that out. AND I'm sure she had worse measurements. They usually do.

    @shanaber I like the longer shorts too. I think I'm too old for short shorts. :wink: I lost weight during the pandemic and have yet to go buy new clothes. I need to, but at the time all the dressing rooms were closed and I had no idea what size I needed. I didn't want to have to take everything back, so just didn't buy anything. Guess that saved me money. I'm glad your DH has his numbers under control, but wish he'd get interested in walking with you again. Just keep asking. You never know.

    Oh no @Avidkeo . I didn't know that. I hope you are on the mend and get well quickly. I never lost my sense of taste or smell either.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @Avidkeo - I had no idea you had Covid! I hope you feel better so soon! Did your family all get it too?
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    Good morning!

    @avidkeo I am starting to notice people I know who have made it through the whole pandemic without so much as a cold are starting to get it. I suspect it has to do with the relaxed attitude to it. I was reading that Boston is recommending mask wear again, I guess the marathon spread some germs.

    We had rain! I am not sure how much we got, probably at least the .25 the promised. It drizzled all day and I thought it was bust, but overnight we had several big heavy cloud bursts and a couple today so far as well. So happy about it, but damn the weeds are going to be back.

    We got the first draft of the house plan to look at. Couple fixes and a couple areas we just aren't sure about (like no butlers pantry). I hate food in the cupboards because they are usually high and deep and make it impossible to see what you have. Our first draftsman who tried for a week, had good ideas and would make suggestions...this new one, is literal and does what we say, even if it is obv that something does not work (like doors that are going to bump into each other).

    The county got back on the split. Now they are saying we might have to make some drainage improvements. Why? The land is undeveloped and has been that way for 50 years, not to mention it doesn't rain here LOL. So now we wait to see what they say.

    Today I am going to make an effort to get into that neurology clinic. I was going to give up but I think the universe is saying no because for the last 24 hours 3 of my fingers have suddenly been mad tingling. I wonder if it is my neck, I haven't been able to turn my head in 2 months, I just assume it stress and knots.

    No WOG this AM due to the rain and I was just generally running behind. I haven't slept to my alarm clock all week but I was later than normal getting up. Grey cat's eye seems to be bothering him, he is squinting and sucking it back in (or it is way smaller). There are no more obv open sores. Last night though he started to almost neurotically groom his face, almost frantically. I had to stop him because I was worried he might catch a nail or reinfect the eye. I told DH I feel like the cats are both ticking time bombs without a clock...I am just on edge waiting for the next emergency. I am so anxious about my trip in May, DH is going to be looking after the boys himself and he just isn't as observant and I worry something will happen...or worse if we lose one while I am gone. But I can't live in fear.

    Best get to it, I am off for 3 days next week :)
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    @CMorning99 I'm glad you got some rain and that there is progress on the house plans. I hope you got into the neurology clinic and got some answers. Sometimes running behind is the only running I get done too. :lol: I hope your cats have a lot more quality life left in them. It is hard to not be anxious, but you are right, you can't live in fear....and you have to live - take the trip. Enjoy your three days off next week!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @CMorning99 - I would push for the butler's pantry too. I can't reach most of thee cupboards in my kitchen so there is very little food storage there. I have most all of it in the hall cupboards and I have installed these drawers from the Container Store that have doubled the space available and make it easy to reach/find the items in the back.
    I hope you can get away and enjoy yourself. I would be worrying too but you really need to put it aside to relax and enjoy.

    Our dd is here for the weekend to visit a friend who had moved back from Australia. She is staying with us tonight so we get to enjoy her for a bit before taking her into LA.

    Opps - just realized I typed this all in last night and never posted it. Guess I really was tired 🥱
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,543 Member
    Enjoy your daughter's visit @shanaber !