Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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I'm off today and had in my head that i should be out running or biking by 9 am. Its 845 I'm only onto half a cup of coffee. I question weather i ahould rest today with the tired, noticably sore legs. Normally I'd have a rest but since I'd like to do the DU without crying, I'm trying to lean in to as much training as possible. This also gives me the opportunity to eat a little more.
What are we eating today?
You girls hang in there. I know we all have bad weeks. @sarahthes other than the calf issue, the extra physical rest (not running) has allowed you to recover to a greater degree and you havent lost any cardio fitness in such a short time. When you get out there consistently for a week, i suspect you'll feel stronger. Gaining weight always messes with my head. I keep telling myself "so what, I'll run it off eventually" when it creeps in to my thoughts. I will take about 2000mg of vitiman c to get the over eaten bloat out. Just wouldn't say make a habit of it. Just fyi if a good bm helps clear your head.
I had a friend ages ago that'd do a 3 day fruit diet when her weight crept up. She played soccer. Thats where i get the "eat all the watermelon".
Anyhow, you got this. Its a journey.
@hanlonsk Ugh food poisoning. I have yet to have it. Love the scotch bribe!!!!0 -
Thanks @Elise4270. I got in a good run (6 miles) this morning and definitely feel better about things.
Breakfast was instant oatmeal with frozen berries that I made when I got to work because aside from getting in a run I was not terribly organized this morning and was almost late.
I have no idea what lunch is because my husband packed it for me. I will hazard a guess that there is yogurt, string cheese, a pear, a quinoa salad thing from Costco and a soup of some kind or possibly a frozen entree. My husband isn't super creative when it comes to lunches.
Supper we were talking about grilled cheese on rye with salad.1 -
Ha! Scotch for dessert @hanlonsk! Mine was a glass of wine on Monday after agility class!
@elise4270 - remember to take some of your own advice to not push too hard and over train. Take it slow and get some rest in there. You want to hit that duo healthy and able to finish and not have another injury to set you back!
I love watermelon too and have a bowl of it cut up in the fridge for snacking whenever I feel like it and especially after a run - it is SO refreshing! I also like the watermelon juice they have at Costco but it takes up too much room in the refrigerator and is kind of expensive.
@sarahthes - so happy you are feeling better about things and got a good run in! I actually think your husband isn't bad with lunches. Mine made bologna and American cheese sandwiches on plain white bread (no condiments, no veggies ever) everyday for years when I first met him (OMG!). He hasn't branched out much further than that these days and usually has soup and pretzels or a sandwich with salami or turkey. I think this is mostly because I refuse to buy any of the other ingredients although if he really wanted them he could go get them himself
Between my run on Monday and class I ended up with over 20k steps! Too bad I woke up at 2 am coughing and so congested again... so no run yesterday but I ate pretty well. I just slept and watched TV all day and got mostly no steps or movement in. I was still going to make the stuffed peppers in the IP for dinner but discovered I needed a pot to fit inside the IP to cook them in. Of course I have nothing that will fit so I ordered it on Amazon but it won't be here until tomorrow. DH went to Panera for salads which were perfect for dinner last night and tonight I will have to find something in the freezer to cook. I think I will have a salad with leftover chicken for lunch today. Wondering if the pot will arrive in time to still make the peppers tomorrow.
I'm going to call the doctor and see if I can get in today or tomorrow and have this cough/congestion checked since it has been going on almost 2 weeks now. Either way I will get outside today even if just for a walk.1 -
Currently having the same TOM issues as many of you -_- yesterday I gave in to the cravings and ate a bunch of sugary cereal and chocolate after dinner, but I'm determined to make today better! My goal for today is to not eat any snacks, just to stick to the three meals I have planned. I already got my run and XT in this morning, so I just have strength training left to do once I get home from the lab. Other goal for the day is to finally do the damn strength training instead of skipping it like always
Breakfast was wheat biscuit cereal with almond milk and berries, a chocolate PB banana smoothie, and lavender lemonade kombucha. For lunch I packed a TLT sandwich (tempeh "bacon", lettuce, tomato, sprouts, mayo), grilled asparagus, and a mango. I really really want to dig in to my lunch now, but it's only 11:30 so I'm going to make myself wait until 12 to get it.
Not 100% sure about dinner yet, but I'll probably have a tofu poke bowl (brown rice, baked tofu, daikon, shredded carrot and zucchini, jalapeno, green onion, gomasio, and soy sauce) since I've had the rice and tofu in my fridge for a few days now. Also need to do a little meal prep tonight- make more rice and tofu, cook the kale I've had in my fridge for 5 days that's starting to yellow, and get a batch of kimchi (or sauerkraut, haven't decided which yet) fermenting.
@Elise4270 3 day fruit diet sounds tasty! And a great way to ensure a BM to reduce the bloat haha
@sarahthes grilled cheese on rye sounds delicious, rye bread is the best2 -
So far so good this week on the diet front, but it is only Wednesday, and only half way through at that, so I still have plenty of time to blow it. Oh, and I should probably clarify that by diet, I mean just what I am eating. I am not currently trying to lose weight, but am more concerned about my overall health. I have not had any alcohol since Saturday and my average resting heart rate has dropped 10 bpm since then. I have definitely noticed the correlation and the little graph on my Garmin solidifies this. I told my husband that I am not going to drink any alcohol until I notice it bottom out or trend back in the opposite direction. I am really kind of curious to see how much the impact of alcohol really is.
Today for breakfast I had some oats with a little brown sugar, unsweetened coconut flakes and some pineapple. Also iced coffee with a scoop of chocolate protein powder. It was a pretty yummy meal. A nice change from my usual lazy protein bar. Lunch was leftover spinach and quinoa cakes, avocado, tomato and cottage cheese. Surprisingly satisfying. My mid day snack will be some grapes that I was too busy to eat yesterday. For dinner I am making seafood paella using Trader Joe's frozen seafood blend. It's a mix of calamari, shrimp and scallops and is really not that bad. Not a bad day but a bit higher than normal on my carbs and pretty low on protein. I might have protein milk shake for dessert.
@ariceroni - I always struggle with the strength training too. I found a 2 day lifting routine for runners that i am going to try to do. It is a full body workout using heavy weights and compound lifts. I did it last Tuesday and again last night at the gym. I usually hate strength training, but I actually kind of enjoyed it. It really helps me to have a pre-written workout plan when i go to the gym or else I just end up walking around aimlessly before I decide that was enough exercise for the day and leave.1 -
@lporter229 - I would be in bad shape if I stopped having my glass of wine and my HR dropped by 10 points or more! As it was today I was questioned again about my HR at the Urgent Care I was sent to when my regular doctor couldn't see me. Everyone freaks out when they see my low HR! It was 43 then and I was freaking out at the BP reading they had for me - 205/95! WTH!! She retook it manually and it was in normal range for me in the doctor's office (140/68) so their machine was messed up.
So I have a sinus infection that is causing all the issues. Have my antibiotics and hoping they take affect tonight so I can maybe run tomorrow. Doctor didn't rule it out but was cautious... definitely not a runner though.1 -
My resting heart rate is always fairly high.... it’s my blood pressure that generally causes attention. Like when I was at my fattest and out of shapest it was reading quite high for me, but no one batted an eye because it was still a fairly normal reading. One of these days I may try and get someone to take my bp when I am not at a drs office, just because I am curious how big a part my dr anxiety plays. But it causes attention because a lot of meds drop it. So, I can’t have things like codeine without dr supervision because we found out the hard way they drop my bp and I end up passed out and having a seizure.
Most recently, I had a dr appointment early enough in the AM that I still had coffee in hand. So the little nurse gal cautions me not to “freak out” over my bp reading, because between how nervous I look, and the caffeine, my bp is probably going to read fairly high...... it came out at like 102/60. So, let’s just say I was glad I had the coffee so they didn’t drag me off somewhere for low bp.1 -
On resting heart rate: When I took my wilderness first aid class last year, at the point where we partnered up and took resting heart rates from each other, the instructor gave a range of "normal" and mentioned that some people will be higher or lower. When done, we went around the room and gave our partners rate and mine was 47 bpm. The low end of the "normal" range given was 60. But I pointed out that was normal for me and that I run... the instructor agreed that runners and people who are more fit will have lower RHR.0
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When I drink alcohol, my RHR is always in the 50s, but it's in the 40s when I don't. I know that a RHR in the 50s is not cause for concern and is actually kind of low, I just find it interesting that alcohol has that much affect on it. The only major health issue that I have ever had to deal with is Crohn's disease, but both of my parents have (or had, my Dad is deceased) serious chronic health issues including heart disease for both of them, so I am overly paranoid about my health. Neither of my parents were ever over weight, most of it appears to be genetic. That is why it bothers me to think that I am not doing all that I can to keep myself in good health. Not that I intend to never drink alcohol again. Like I said, it was just a little eye opening and I am now just paying a bit more attention to how much I am drinking.
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Wow! I'm in terrible shape. My RMR is 55-58.
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@Elise4270 same here, mine is consistently in the 55-60 range -_- which I guess is still very healthy/low by normal standards...1
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I ate a bunch of plums off my tree at lunch. Now I'm plum full.
@shanaber I replied that I've found BCAA's before bed to significantly encourage recovery, but my post seems to have gone to the ether. So far I'm managing without a total rest day. My workouts are not long, just hotter than hell.
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I've found no difference when I've taken BCAAs so I stopped.
Re: RHR mine used to be 55-58 but lately been around 63ish. My Vo2 is always at 33 and physically I am 13 years older than I actually am. I am apparently very out of shape.1 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »I've found no difference when I've taken BCAAs so I stopped.
Aww, that sucks. I like them. They seem to make a big difference in the quality of my workouts and recovery. I thought about adding some creatine while I'm at it. But i hate the tummy farts and bloat that comes with it.0 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »I've found no difference when I've taken BCAAs so I stopped.
Aww, that sucks. I like them. They seem to make a big difference in the quality of my workouts and recovery. I thought about adding some creatine while I'm at it. But i hate the tummy farts and bloat that comes with it.
I use creatine hci in a microdose. I don't have any of that. The hci is supposed to be better about that than the other one.
I use con crete. Right now I have blue raspberry because it was the cheapest flavor on amazon. I love the taste.1 -
Elise when I said my resting heart rate is high- I mean like 80+ even when I was in half marathon shape, which now that I am writing this, that may contribute to the freak outs when my blood pressure is at the floor... hmmm
Re: bcaa - I am not consistent enough at paying attention to say with certainty that they help or not... but I travel enough that I’m always dealing with “different” water... and so I’m never really used to how local water tastes. So, I essentially view it as expensive koolaid- worst case scenario it makes water taste better, and thus I drink more, and is probably better for me than koolaid.1 -
Not my best week, but not my worst week. Carb cravings are back, but I'm managing them--which has meant being slightly at or above maintenance most of the week. I mean, who really wants to lose the last 10lbs anyway?
One week to my next HM.1 -
@RunsOnEspresso i looked for our creatine. DH said it was old so he threw it out. *Sigh* He never cleans or throws stuff out. I'll have a look at the con crete.
Foods.
I'm off to an okay start. Americano and egg bites for breakfast. Fridays I'd planned on skipping lunch but think it'd be better to least have a salad.
Dinner. Watermelon? LOL!
Today's my first rest day in 5 days. I may be stir crazy this evening. Or perhaps I'll do some cleaning, water the trees and fight the mosquito.0 -
I have to say that in the last month that I've cut non-food foods/ processed foods out of my diet my weight has plateaued, or ever so slightly is trending downwards. Garmin says my lean body mass is trending up and my BF is trending down.
In addition, my appetite is mine to control. I dont have the runaway hungries, but that could change with more and more running.
I have a dexa scan the 20th of july. I doubt my BF is less than my last vist (32.2%) about a year ago when i was 5 pounds lighter. But i think I'm on to something, finally. Only took me 40+ years to learn how I should eat.1 -
@Elise4270 - only took me 60+ years and I am still working on figuring it out! I did decide today that I am making an appointment with the nutritionist again - will be calling on Monday! If I say it here then I have to get it done - right?
I didn't eat much this morning before my run because I was worried about the antibiotics upsetting things which is kind of dumb because they say to take with food to prevent stomach upset... Oh well it ended up being fine other than need a bathroom break around mile 4 and then around mile 5 the rungrys started in. When I got home though they disappeared and I really didn't feel like I could eat much of anything. I did manage a string cheese mostly because Hobbes started following me around waiting for his treat even though he only ran the 1st 1.5 miles of it (yes I did share it with him - who could resist that face?). I made myself some protein chocolate milk and counted that for breakfast after my shower.
We are heading to Costco to get it out of the way for the weekend. My plan is to make those dang stuffed peppers tonight in the IP! I already had to throw away 2 cucumbers because we just didn't eat them fast enough.2 -
Weekly Food plans?
Me? We bought 3 roasts, tiny taters, carrots, onions, and asparagus. I still have some watermelon, klamata and these different green olives, fresh mozzarella, pecans, green bananas for 1 maybe 2 more days and plums off the tree which pair amazingly with sliced mild sweet yellow onion.
Now i just need to be sure i pack a lunch (or come home) and not hemhaw over what I'm eating and just buy a diet coke and fried cheese sticks everyday. Although, i really do like fried cheese sticks and coke.
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oh dear.
I seem to have entirely lost motivation for running, but found motivation for eating. This is not good.
Although, I have a marathon to run on Saturday, so overeating this week may not be such an awful thing. The not-bothered-about-running thing could be a bit of an issue though.......
I need to check in here more. This morning, given that I rarely eat breakfast until 10.30ish, I have had three chocolate digestives, before my usual bowl of granola, yoghurt, kefir and fruit.
I feel sick.
The wine, gin and cognac last night didn't help either. Who DOES that on a Sunday knowing they have work the next day?
need to pull myself together.1 -
I seriously need to start logging food/water. Who wants to be my friend and yell at me? Lol1
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RunsOnEspresso wrote: »I seriously need to start logging food/water. Who wants to be my friend and yell at me? Lol
YOU'RE NOT LOGGIN? WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU SOLDIER! DID YOUR MAMA RAISE YOU TO BE AN UNHEALTHY, LAZY, CRYBABY, DUM DUM!
HAHA!
Love ya!
ETA if you don't have to log, I can have fried cheeseand a coke for lunch... maybe even a tostada
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@girlinahat mmm chocolate. Hope you feel better soon. Send the chocolate to me, I'll help you not eat it!0
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I figure I'm back to around 80% today. Food this weekend was not good. I had ice cream for several meals. But I think I also got my head into a better space, and that's really what I need. I think I'm prone to situational depression and/or anxiety and until I bootstrap out of it (via self-care) I self-medicate with food.
Today's food won't be fantastic as my boss is taking me out to lunch (I haven't seen her in at least 2 years and it might actually be 4 years - I can't remember the last time she visited). But I'll aim for a light supper. And maybe I'll run tonight if I'm still feeling okay.2 -
Survived father's day under maintenance (with exercise calories, of course), so I see that as a win! Race coming up Saturday, which means more carbs in the diet (HAPPY).
Next week I go to Santa Monica with hubby and I've already pre-logged 2000 calories of In N Out burger for lunch one day. So yeah, that's gonna be a thing.3 -
I really must be feeling better. My resting HR is back down in the mid-60s as opposed to the mid 70s like it was over the weekend.3
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RunsOnEspresso wrote: »I seriously need to start logging food/water. Who wants to be my friend and yell at me? Lol
YOU'RE NOT LOGGIN? WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU SOLDIER! DID YOUR MAMA RAISE YOU TO BE AN UNHEALTHY, LAZY, CRYBABY, DUM DUM!
HAHA!
Love ya!
ETA if you don't have to log, I can have fried cheeseand a coke for lunch... maybe even a tostada
Lol thanks!
I haven't been too unhealthy. I just don't know if I'm fueling well. And I sometimes I log everything but dinner. Which doesn't help fogure out if I'm eating enough. Hah1
