Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • marisap2010
    marisap2010 Posts: 909 Member
    edited July 2018
    All the talk of donuts makes me hungry! I am trying to cut out sugary and fried food as I get ready for my marathon to get down to my “ideal running weight.” Let me tell you though, as soon as the race is over, I plan to eat one of those giant cookie cakes, hahaha.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Today food was hard for me - I forgot to take things to eat (for me - Hobbes had all kinds of treats and things!) to the agility trial and what I did take I just couldn't eat... I had oatmeal with walnuts of which I ate about half and the only other food I took for me was carrots and celery of which I could only eat just a few. When I got home though nothing sounded good... I ended up making a chicken quesadilla from leftover chicken. Then I went to the gym and we had a late leftover dinner. Will have a protein drink before I go to bed though to hopefully fill me up.

    Another early morning tomorrow and a longer hot day at the trial - no idea what I am going to take to eat...
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @shanaber Why couldnt you eat eat your snacks? Did you already get trays?

    Best foods for braces (that I've found) bananas, and almond butter, definitely protein shakes, fresh mozzarella, boiled eggs... Or the egg bites from Starbucks! The bananas and almond butter have become an indulgence. Filling and sweet.

    Good luck today!

    @marisap2010 Oh didn't listen to us on the donuts! Although marathon training? There's gotta be room for one :wink:
    What does your typical day look like, food wise? Just curious, not judging. I like to see what others get to eat. Its like being nosey at the grocery store and checking out everyone's shopping cart. Or watching a show about cuisine I've never had.
    Any favorite foods?
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I have lamb to fix. And I'm hoping all the ingredients for tzatziki sauce. Beyond that, i have no plans. If dh runs today, it usually means bbq on the way home. I'm down. Just wish they sold beer there too.

    I have a busy week next week. Well, Wednesday is busy. I complained to the PA about my piriformis muscle being all knotted up. I did my part and abused it in to unknotting. I think it worked. But I now have an order for PT.... I'm hoping its not worked out to save myself the embarrassment of a visit unwarranted.
    Haha! So today...Hills!
    ......Once it gets oppressively hot out, dh will decide to to the park. Can not get out earlier. :disappointed:
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    We have no food so Costco run in an hour and a bit.

    It's cooler today with thunderstorms expected. I will either run around noon (predicted clear time) or after dinner (storms will be done by the ). Maybe I will run trails. We will see.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I'm struggling with eating. I want to eat everything. All the time. And I'm not recording my food.

    Why?
    Journal? Work on a training plan? Read a running book? Netflix a marathon movie? Loved the movie about the kids in a border town... Sorry cant remember the name of it.

    Can you restrict your foods to only soup/watermelon or something similar? (thats what I do). Where large portions dont equal large calories

    Can you keep busy? Clean, walk, shop, find a project. Meal plan?

    ((Hugs)) wish we could all just get together on days like this and help.

  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I'm struggling with eating. I want to eat everything. All the time. And I'm not recording my food.

    Huge hugs, but no advice because I fall into that same pit sometimes. More often than I'd like.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with eating. I want to eat everything. All the time. And I'm not recording my food.

    Why?
    Journal? Work on a training plan? Read a running book? Netflix a marathon movie? Loved the movie about the kids in a border town... Sorry cant remember the name of it.

    Can you restrict your foods to only soup/watermelon or something similar? (thats what I do). Where large portions dont equal large calories

    Can you keep busy? Clean, walk, shop, find a project. Meal plan?

    ((Hugs)) wish we could all just get together on days like this and help.

    Been doing all. I can't restrict anything less than 1500-ish calories and I'm shakey, headache etc.

    I am going to blame the heat. And I'm tired of feeling like a slave to recording/measuring food. I know it works but I'm so tired of it.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I'm struggling with eating. I want to eat everything. All the time. And I'm not recording my food.

    Why?
    Journal? Work on a training plan? Read a running book? Netflix a marathon movie? Loved the movie about the kids in a border town... Sorry cant remember the name of it.

    Can you restrict your foods to only soup/watermelon or something similar? (thats what I do). Where large portions dont equal large calories

    Can you keep busy? Clean, walk, shop, find a project. Meal plan?

    ((Hugs)) wish we could all just get together on days like this and help.

    Been doing all. I can't restrict anything less than 1500-ish calories and I'm shakey, headache etc.

    I am going to blame the heat. And I'm tired of feeling like a slave to recording/measuring food. I know it works but I'm so tired of it.

    Embrace that break, don't beat yourself up for needing or taking one. :heart:
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @Elise4270 - it was just too hot to eat and I wanted the Perfect bar I left at home.
    @RunsOnEspresso - I agree take a break and eat as you need too. I have that issue on rest days especially when all I crave is carbs and know I shouldn’t be eating them.
  • marisap2010
    marisap2010 Posts: 909 Member
    @Elise4270 I am re-reading Matt Fitzgerald’s book The New Rules of Marathon and Half Marathon Nutrition, and he divides foods into ones that our bodies need (whole, mostly unprocessed), and the ones we don’t need (sweets, fats, refined grains, fatty meats). I am trying to follow as much as I can before the marathon, so while I still try to eat mostly what I want, I try to make the best choices (ie., whole wheat instead of white bread, etc.). I am cutting out the sweets and fried foods totally because so don’t eat them very often anyway, and I figured it would be easier to let those go for now.

    Breakfast usually is wheat toast with PB and some fruit, or maybe scrambled eggs with salsa and fruit. Lunch and dinner usually involve chicken, turkey, or fish (or no meat at all- I used to be vegetarian) with lots of veggies and maybe potato or brown rice.

    Today’s lunch was whole wheat pasta with veggie rich tomato sauce and some lean ground turkey. Dinner was a whole wheat wrap with black beans, corn, tomato, and avocado with a little bit of shredded cheese. I snacked on hummus and whole wheat crackers.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @marisap2010 Love Matt Fitzgerald. I've only read Racing Weight. I might have to look for the New Rules book!

    Sounds like you've got a good plan going!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    My turn to ask... What's on your menu for next week? I am looking for lunch and dinner ideas (other than salad) that I can make without using the oven. It is just to dang hot!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    We fixed lamb in the IP. Usually dh wont eat it because its a little wild compared to our pampered pallet. I don't know if it was this lamb or because i put juice of 1 lemon and one lemon halved in it that tamed it. Was very good. So Monday starts off with left over lamb tzatziki bowls (or wrap for dd and dh).

    I have, again chuck roast and potatoes to fix. Snacks include: a watermelon, mushrooms, fresh mozzarella, brine green olives, swiss, V8 low sodium, Siggis, too many fresh eggs, plums, cherry plums, grapes, bananas, almond butter, an eggplant and a small spaghetti squash. Basically same things, new week :smile: My go to plan is snacking!

    @shanaber We never use the oven in the summer. I love this IP because we dont have to grill or heat up the house.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    We went out for our anniversary 1 day early. Steak and steak - I ate all of mine but DH's was huge so we have enough for at least one or maybe even 2 meals. This dinner was definitely pretty spectacular. The restaurant has their own farm/ranch and grow/make everything themselves. We split an heirloom tomato salad that was delicious and I do not like many tomatoes, they just don't taste the way tomatoes should. But these, these were amazing... add a little blue cheese and some house smoked bacon and you have a winner. They brought the dressing out late but it really didn't even need it. Also wonderful rolls and fresh popovers with homemade raspberry jam!

    Tomorrow I must run, in the heat or on the treadmill, to pay for all this food!!
  • HeyJudii
    HeyJudii Posts: 264 Member
    New here.

    My biggest nutritional challenge is what I call, "The Weekend Mentality". In a nutshell it's the mindset that woo hoo it's the weekend, time to go wild, cut loose, throw caution to the wind.

    I no longer feel there are forbidden foods, and during the week, I eat a balanced diet, with room for treats, yet come Friday there is this vague feeling of being deprived or punished if I follow the same plan through the weekend. I realize it is a mindset thing, but knowing and "feeling" are separate.

    Still working on it.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @HeyJudii I hear ya. This weekend was not good. Yesterday (rest day) was not good. I'm getting tired of this...

    Skipped breakfast this morning, have a reasonable lunch planned and all of the things we might have for supper are reasonable. Today should be a reasonable deficit day provided I don't go nuts with evening snacking. I also have some CLIF products to experiment with this afternoon for tonight's run home.

    I solemnly swear I will run home today and not put it off until 10 PM.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Hey @HeyJudii ! Good luck with the weekend challenges! I eat so much better on the weekends. I designated a drawer in the fridge for my snacks, stuff i like to eat and are good chices. It works great. No hunting through the fridge trying to remember what's in there. One drawer and I'm "Oooo! Snacks!"
    The work week lunches are my down fall and not planning dinners. I mean to plan, i just never do.

    Taco Tuesday for me... Oh i had tacos yesterday too.... Probably again tomorrow. No, wait.... Tomorrow is PT in Dallas, then straight back for dental cleaning. So. How about Starbucks for breakfast! Yay! Mmm!

    I ate a whole small watermelon yesterday because i didnt want to put it up. I also are too many cherry plums. I'm farty.

    Guess I'll make that roast tomorrow or Thursday. I've kinda slacked on the veggies with all this fruit around. Guess that's really no biggie. Maybe I'll put that spaghetti squash and eggplant on tonight.
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    edited July 2018
    HeyJudii wrote: »
    New here.

    My biggest nutritional challenge is what I call, "The Weekend Mentality". In a nutshell it's the mindset that woo hoo it's the weekend, time to go wild, cut loose, throw caution to the wind.

    I no longer feel there are forbidden foods, and during the week, I eat a balanced diet, with room for treats, yet come Friday there is this vague feeling of being deprived or punished if I follow the same plan through the weekend. I realize it is a mindset thing, but knowing and "feeling" are separate.

    Still working on it.

    I hear you on the weekend struggle - I think part of my struggle the last couple of months has been that since I started working from home, the distinction between week and weekend has slowly crumbled. Time to get back on track and find a happy middle ground!

    It's been about six weeks and I'm throwing in the towel, going back on the bandwagon, whatever you want to call it. Yes, I'm back to tracking, and honestly I feel a little bit bad that it feels like a relief. I really wanted to be able to go it cool and eat instinctively and all that, but it appears that I am not ready for that yet. So it goes - I realized that I've been resisting logging out of some desire not to "give up" and it's just causing me more stress, so enough of that. Hugs all around - it's a struggle sometimes, but the only way to fail is to give up!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Todays challenges? How can you mitigate your food choice obstacles?

    Me? I'm busy busy today, out of town appointments and hurry back for one more afternoon appointment. Usually this mean i dont eat all day or I'll grab something not so great. If i have time, I'll make a Panera stop to keep me away from the tacos and schlotzskys.

    I'm already running late for my second appointment, as i sit here with my first. To be fair I'd be on time if they hadnt told me to arrive 30 min early. Wtf is up with that? If i have an appointment at 10, then i shall be there by 10. You want me "early", schedule it earlier. Don't make it for 10 and say come early for paperwork. So... I'll be there by 10, they're just gonna have to deal. I hate being "late".
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I went for a protein and veggie filled breakfast this morning after dragging myself out of bed to run early because I got rained out of running last night (well, not the rain but the lightning).

    Lunch is more boxed frozen stuff with veggies and fruit and yogurt.

    Supper... hubby is talking about making dal. And masala chicken with it. We will see what actually gets made.

    I need to keep myself busy in the evening because that's when I snack. We are planning to walk/bike with the kids which helps. They sleep better and I don't have food in easy reach!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Yeah that arrive 30 mins early gets me too. They are trying to control the flow it so they don't get backed up because someone is late. Honestly though I think they typically get people who are a bit early and people who are a bit late and a good scheduler should be able to manage it. Also I have yet to be in an office where the paperwork takes more than a few minutes and if you have been there before (or to another doctor in the same group) there should not be any paperwork!

    Hope your appointments go well!

    Mitigating food choice challenges... I try to always have good food choice alternatives on hand like fruits and veggies, hummus, cheese, etc.. The issue for me though is, you have to grocery shop for those things and I hate going to the grocery store(s). I usually end up going to 3 or 4 stores to get the things we want/like. For example yesterday I went to TJs for bread and pepitas (for my granola recipe) then to Sprouts for bulk peanuts to make PB, stuffed chicken breasts and Perfect bars. Tomorrow I need to go to Vons/Safeway for all the veggies for over the weekend... and I just realized as I am typing this that I forgot to get hummus at TJs!
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I like when places allow me to print and complete paperwork prior to the apt. Usually the 30 minutes is when I plan tonarrive anyway. I'm always early. And it takes 2 seconds to verify no changes.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I just wish when i made the appointment, they said "be here 30 minutes early", not when i get the appointment reminder the day before the appointment when I've already booked an appointment before that appointment (because i couldn't stand my non-ethnic (haha) thin old white lady lips any longer).

    Too often that arrive early business, is like @shanaber said, just more sitting time. I did need about 12 minutes for paperwork. Its the PT (again). Wheres it hurt questions and how bad and can you do a,b,c- x, y, z...
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Alright, your weekend challenges are upon you! Plan today and maybe you'll find you've done better !

    Plan, plan plan! What's your plan? (Anyone watch GLOW? On Netflix?)

    I'm up earlier. Oh don't get excited. I just up for extra coffee. I told myself I'd do my every other day pt in the AM.... Maybe tomorrow. PT thought that this issue (expound on later) is possibly discogenic back pain. I have no back pain. Si joint is as close to back pain as i have. So I'm a little less than bought in... I feel like it's nerve compression/damage outside the back. Old piriformis surgery issue. Which I'm supposed to be strengthening.

    So my challenge today is to lean in to my PT. Ive surrounded myself with a good medical team that i trust. I just need to remember this, and do the pt. Who knows it may help!?

    Food? Idk... I'm eating more and my weight is finally dropping a bit? 2 months and I've not seen it budge. I think its hormonal. Pms, no Tom, body moved past trying to make something happen that wasnt going too and now dropped water weight that had masked a slow weight loss.

    Ugh. Time to get the day going. And I'm not done with my coffee yet. :wink:
  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Alright, your weekend challenges are upon you! Plan today and maybe you'll find you've done better !

    Plan, plan plan! What's your plan? (Anyone watch GLOW? On Netflix?)

    I loved season one of GLOW - my husband and I are finishing season three of The Expanse and I think season two of GLOW is probably next up after that. We don't watch much tv anymore except when we eat dinner together, which is usually 3-4 nights a week but has been less recently for various reasons.

    Day three of being back to logging and it's such a relief. It doesn't hurt that I've dropped 3-4 pounds of water weight the last couple of days, but more than that is just the confidence of *knowing* I'm in a deficit, knowing it's okay to have that extra snack, or that I need to skip desert to hit my daily goal. And knowing that I have a choice in all of it - if I stick to my numbers, I'll be very close to goal weight by the end of the year. If I don't, I won't. Life happens, but the choice is up to me.

    Apparently there's no TMI among runners, so I'll add that as of last week I'm off birth control for the first time since I was a teenager and your comment @Elise4270 reminded me that I might have to deal with a regular TOM for the first time in a few years. I suppose that's something to look forward to figuring out, at least for a little while, *fingers crossed*, at which point there will be other things to figure out.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @MegaMooseEsq - you may see your weight drop a bit after a couple of months of no BC too. Unless you get pregnant right away that is, then you'll gain :)

    @Elise4270 - I find planning food for the weekend difficult. I know what I am going to run and generally what we are doing but my planning always seems to stop on Friday and the weekend ends up whatever it is...
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    We are watching the newest season of Arrested Development. New season of Glow is on the list.