Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Hmmm - are biscuits poor quality food? Can we make them better with whole wheat and organic butter? Honestly that is all that is in them, flour and butter... lots and lots of butter :wink:
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited September 2018
    Hmmm - are biscuits poor quality food? Can we make them better with whole wheat and organic butter? Honestly that is all that is in them, flour and butter... lots and lots of butter :wink:

    Here they are served white/milk gravy. For me biscuits are on the "limit" list. Stuff like that can have soy hidden in it and I'll have a migraine. Anything you can eat butter with is my kinda food!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    No milk gravy (white pasty stuff that my stepmom used to make - yes she was from the South) or gravy of any kind unless it is on turkey, dressing and mashed potatoes! Never on biscuits - for those you need butter (of course) and honey or maybe a bit of marmalade!

    No pizza tonight. DH decided he was too full from the chicken tortilla soup he had for lunch so we are having Panera salads. I didn't have anything else out that I could cook... well I guess I could have made some IP chicken.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I think I'm going to need to banish Halloween candy from the house. I've done okay other than candy the past few days.

    We did groceries and bought minimal processed stuff, mostly just veggies. And fruit. Some chicken, some of which we will cook and the rest we will freeze.

    Just gotta stay out of the candy bag...
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Oh @shanaber, we LOVE milk gravy! Mmmm! I do love butter too. Best gravy i ever had was tomato gravy in Columbus Georgia at Ruth Ann's diner. Ohmygersh. Heaven.

    Well, I'm off to a successful start this Sunday morning. 8:12 and I've stuck to coffee. Haha! Hey, taking the win here!

    @sarahthes No kids here so we're rarely tempted by Halloween candy. Dh will have it at work, since its common businesses set out a bowl. He'll get into it and bring home the odd piece.

    I'm determined to set October right. So with that, i should probably plan lunch/dinner. I ate so much yesterday i think I'll have some fruit for lunch and plan to eat after a run.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Took the puppers for a walk this morning. He can't go very far yet (had a few months off with the heat). Now drinking coffee, then I'll make breakfast (probably eggs) and do my strength workout.

    Today's goal: hit my 10k steps despite staying in the house to work on my biz and my friend's biz. Eat within my calories.

    Tomorrow is weigh-in and measure day. We will see how good/bad the last two weeks were and if I need to make any adjustments.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @Elise4270 We don't get any trick-or-treaters stopping at our place either! I always set out a bowl when we leave with the kids and when we get back I count and nobody has come :(. Maybe this year if I'm on the ball I will set up signs from the condo complex entrance to our door to entice kids off the main sidewalk. Mostly they stay on the other side of the street though since there's just the condos and a school (formerly a park) on our side.

    Breakfast was a lot of fibre - yogurt & fruit bowl with bran cereal on the bottom. Plus I had a piece of sausage to up the protein. And 2 cups of coffee. (By cups I mean giant 16 oz mugs of course.)

    I had a thing of Rockets already. I think in the US they are Smarties. Our Smarties are chocolate up here.

    Not sure what lunch or supper will be. We were supposed to go over to a friend's house for board games this afternoon but my husband has a cold and doesn't want to go. Going out is a good way to stay out of the pantry. Maybe I'll go for a walk instead...
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @sarahthes - we always loved hitting the apartments when trick or treating because it was so easy to get to so many places pretty quickly :) Even at the gated complex near our house, they open the gates so the kids can go there.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited September 2018
    Made a trip to the grocery store today. Don't think we bought anything we shouldn't have. DH is making chili, so I've done something right. Even though its sill 80+degrees here... *shrugs*

    ETA no chili... Dh mistakenly used cayanne pepper and not chili pepper. The universe a wants me to skip lunch/dinner and tomorrow's lunch.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    W-oops Cayenne instead of Chili pepper means it must have been very spicy! Yikes!

    We had pizza... and beer... but on the good side I also ordered an Asian chicken salad and had it first. I was full with just the salad and only had one piece of my flatbread. Beer does that to me. I like it but I just get too full. I am also not thrilled with the flatbread, it is pretty tasteless so I will probably not eat much of it.

    Tomorrow we will likely get to Costco and get some chicken, berries and other veggies.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I went a little over but the gluten free ice cream cone was worth it! Photo on Instagram if you feel like seeing the worlds tiniest ice cream cone ๐Ÿ˜‚
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited October 2018
    Still room to do better. Yesterday I had two pieces of pizza since there was no chili. But I did eat a lot of fruit.

    I'm not sure how I'm managing today. "Unplanned", rarely I impress myself. Suppose I can pack a siggis, and a protein shake and have a vegan salad at lunch...

    oh I'm supposed to run at lunch too. Ugh. My mojo is waning. I'm bloated and crampy still with this no period period. Stupid uterus. ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Oh kitten, its Monday and we have lots of sitting work to do with 3rd quarter ending. Hip's gonna be mad about that.

    Dang clock keeps ticking forwards. Guess I better get after it.

    Eat well. You are worth it.


    ETA haha! I sound SOoo excited this morning... I'm just frumpin' not grumpin'.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I weighed myself and it wasn't pretty but I've accepted it, that I'm responsible for it, and that I have the power to change.

    Just not sure what that's going to look like.

    Peanut butter toast for breakfast.

    Going out for pizza for lunch but it's build-your-own thin crust and the calories can be reasonable. Looking at 660 calories for the whole thing.

    Supper I'm leaning towards pierogies but I'm gonna throw a bunch of veggies in the pan with them, not just onions and sausage.

    Topped with yogurt and salsa.

    Thanksgiving is next weekend. I really want the main meal to be sous vide roast beef, slow cooked over 2-3 days. With white potatoes, squash, corn, salad and something else vegetable-based on the side.
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    Took a looooong break! Think the last time I posted was in July!

    Since then I have moved from Hawaii to Cali and loving it. So many good running areas! Not that have found my groove yet though. I have lost my internal morning alarm clock with the time change and can't seem to find the mojo to get it back. The good thing is the weather is so nice and cool here (right now) that I can run in the afternoon, but that hasn't been a habit in a long time either.

    This move has gifted me about 5-7lbs. Hubby has started working again after his post military retirement sabbatical. We signed up for Home Chef meal prep kit service. We really like it, but dang the calories can be high.

    I have about 3-4 weeks left of my feeble attempt at speed training before I move up into 10K range....then marathon again. I am fat and slow right now...so annoying.

    I have a fitness test in about 3 weeks so I am going to really focus on these next few weeks...and just see what I can do to be healthier.

    Food today is:
    Coffee/cream (90)
    Protein/Meal replacement shake (240)
    Chopped Salad (360)
    1/2 protein Shake (120)
    Water Flavor (60)
    Home Chief Barbacoa Tacos (679) <<<<eek! At least I don't have to eat it all

    Total: 1509

    Exercise: 3 miles (I haven't run in a week due to travel).
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I lost .7 pounds in two weeks. The first week I was pretty close to calorie goal. Last week I was always over and some days by a lot. I think I need a slightly higher calorie goal.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Welcome back @CMorning99! Wish you would send some of that cooler air to the southern part of the state which apparently didn't get the memo! I think the time change alone would do me in. It is so hard to get accustomed to a new clock both physically and mentally!

    @RunsOnEspresso - I am still struggling to eat more... Oh I can eat crap and fill in the calorie blanks but I am really trying as @Elise4270 says, to 'do better!' Part of it for me is I hate cooking 2 sets of meals and if I cook for me often DH won't like/eat at least part of what I cook... so I try to fill in with veggies we can both agree on but they don't add a heck of a lot to the calorie total and I worry about having too much fiber with the stomach issues I have been experiencing. I am thinking I may need to start having salads with a protein for lunch again. I really got tired of them a while back. Getting out to run earlier would help too as I wouldn't end up skipping a meal because of when I got back it was too late for breakfast or I ran through lunch...

    @sarahthes - having a place to make build your own thin crust pizza sounds amazing! That is something I should look into making at home for me when DH wants to order pizza for himself. I just need to find the right crust.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    @shanaber My current goal is just over 2k calories. Last 2 weeks average was abot 2200. I added an extra 50 last night. Went to bed slightly hungry.

    I may try to weigh in weekly rather than every other just to get a better idea.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    So jealous of the 2000 calorie diets!

    Just shows how sedentary or how little muscle mass i have. Over the last month my average was 1300ish. I neither gained not lost. (Wah, poor me).
    I am on track to do better today, finally. It took a few days to eek back to better choices. Today i brought curry chicken from home (no chicken got in my bowl :frowning: ), just veggies then. I have a low sodium V8 and will have a Siggis for a snack this afternoon. Already at 13 DQS points today. Way better than the day I had 1 and lied to get there.

    DH happened to notice there were sulfites in the curry mix, so im hoping it wont give me a migraine. I pushed it yesterday and 2 squares of 85% cocoa. I did forget to put the chocolate away, so DD may relive me of any further indulgence.

    @shanaber How's Hobbs? Poor guy. I thought/hoped he just might have had a cold with an incidental cancer finding, but i saw you mentioned he wasn't recovering very quickly from his sickly set back... So i was concerned for him, you and all.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    edited October 2018
    I used to eat between 1200 and 1400 cals per day and that is where I got into trouble... I wanted to lose, felt like I should be losing based on all the activity (running, lifting, agility) but I lost nothing and inched my way up after having gained when I couldn't run from injury/surgery. I had no energy and my runs literally sucked... I couldn't complete even a mile without having to stop or walk. It was worse than when I first started running.

    Curiously raising my calories has resulted in a very small weight gain and the last time I saw the nutritionist I had lost that and then some. I am still not losing much but I suspect it is because I am still not eating enough. When I eat more/better my runs feel pretty great most of the time (duh!) and when they don't it usually is muscle stiffness not lack of energy.

    Hobbes is doing ok... we have started giving him turkey tail mushroom and DHA (fish oil) for his immune system and some Benadryl once a day because the tumor(s) give off histamines that give him hives. He has energy in bursts now but things wear him out that had little impact before like our slow 5 mile run on Friday and agility class last night. He had a blast but we didn't get in many runs (only 2 really) because there are a bunch of new people who are just learning. He was wiped out last night and today. I am really hoping once he has the surgery on the 9th they will be able to give us a better idea going forward on what we can do for him. The big concern is if it has moved into his liver or spleen. Thanks for asking @Elise4270!

    ETC - spelling errors
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Yah I used to eat like 1500 - 1600 to lose but it wss just as slow and I always felt hungry. You have to fuel your body. And the more active you are the more you should fuel. If you are eating low cals you will gain a little as you increase but eventually will lose. The gain will be small if you increase in small amounts. Like 100 per couple of weeks. You can't go from 1300 to 2000 in a day.

    Will keep sending positive thoughts to Hobbes. I've been worried about him. ๐Ÿ–ค
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I'm currently on 1200 net calories but my logging isn't terribly tight. I'm also okay with being in the red as long as it's still a deficit. I've only been on 1200 for a week or so and my adherence in September was crap. Once my running volume picks up again I'll add in a couple hundred more (net) calories per day.
    ---
    PB toast again this morning. It was a *kitten* start to the day after that but when we went to Tim Hortons on the way to work to give the battery more time to charge I was good and stuck to coffee.

    Lunch was leftovers from last night, a string cheese, half an apple and a yogurt.

    Dinner will be chicken pot pie from the grocery store deli. Probably eat light since I'm meeting up with a new neighbourhood running club that is trying to get off the ground and it starts at 7. Maybe dessert after my run, we will see.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited October 2018
    I did change my weekend calorie allowance, from 1000 (i go over no matter where i set it, so red means quit snacking or think quality) to 1500 two weeks ago.

    I know thats against the 100 cals/day rule, but i just couldn't make myself do more than the 1000 calorie daily goal (which means i really eat 1300-1400). I think i was on the verge of a panic attack seeing all the calories that could be a problem, especially if i couldnt or didn't stay active.

    I'm not hungry on a lower allowance, and i will eat when i am hungry. I do believe in listening to my body, food means recovery is easier and it's taking me where i want to go...

    If i add calories, I'm not sure where I'd add them, macro wise. If i step up my running/biking i can add carbs. But if im not... Maybe just some good fat.

    Think I'll keep to the higher weekend calories for September, unless someone offers why that may be bad, and see where that takes me.
  • CMorning99
    CMorning99 Posts: 924 Member
    Still holding on strong on day 3 of getting back into accountability.

    I didn't get my run in on Monday but worked out for an hour yesterday with a 3 mile run. Apple Watch said I burned 2100 cals all day total and I consumed my 1520. That is a bit high of a deficit but I think it evens out on my rest days when I only have about a 200 cal deficit.

    Today I have everything tracked and planned and right on point with 1520 calories. It is a rest day but I am thinking I might go for a walk after work b/c I am sitting on my butt all day.

    Scale jumped up again ... probably water weight from working out yesterday.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I did fine yesterday. Today splurged and allowed a taco casa burrito because i was going to run after work. Then of course decided against it. Three days in a row, even short miles might not be the smartest move just as i get the left itb to settle down.

    So. Now dh is bringing back a burger from red robin. Not sure if they're an larger chain or just local. Big yummy super high calorie burger. Haha! Tomorrow will be a run day. And I'd like to eat more calories. I think itd surely help recovery and may quite some of my aches.

    Didn't do better today. But i did chose not to do better, not forced by raging hunger hormones or what ever drives that desire.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    We eat at Red Robin a lot because I can eat their fries and there is one down the street.

    I had a big ole bowl of ice cream last night with the cone crushed into the bowl. LOL Tonight I am making impossible easy cheeseburger pie and then running (and then watching Criminal Minds).
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    We eat at Red Robin a lot because I can eat their fries and there is one down the street.

    I had a big ole bowl of ice cream last night with the cone crushed into the bowl. LOL Tonight I am making impossible easy cheeseburger pie and then running (and then watching Criminal Minds).

    Bottomless fries! They are probably my favorite fry.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    We used to eat at Red Robin here when my daughter was younger. Haven't been to one in a long long time.

    I ate well today and at my calorie goal per the nutritionist for a 'normal' run day. I am hurting all over. I hurt during my run for most of it (hips and foot) and now pretty much my entire body hurts from my arm pits down (DOMS) from Tuesday night training. I am having issues standing and sitting and haven't felt this sore in a long time. I feel fat, feel like I can't run like I used to or as fast as I used to and just feeling blah about everything. Is PMS still a thing after menopause? I thought I was done with all this and feeling like this...

    Good news - it finally decided to rain! Yay I can go to sleep listening to it :)
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    We are trying to save money so no more going out for breakfast or lunch for a while. I think that will help with calories as well.

    I've also cut myself off of sugary crap (i.e. candy) until my running volume is back up again. I just don't have the wiggle room right now and I'm bad at moderating. It's all or nothing with me.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Dh is bringing home pizza... Ugh. I do not have room in my calories for pizza. I already planned buying pizza Monday for coworkers to celebrate Texas over OU... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿค˜

    Maybe i can moderate and have one slice today.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Dh is bringing home pizza... Ugh. I do not have room in my calories for pizza. I already planned buying pizza Monday for coworkers to celebrate Texas over OU... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿค˜

    Maybe i can moderate and have one slice today.

    Four. And halo ice cream. ๐Ÿ˜’

    *Hits RESET once again*