Jim's Progress Thread

Jim_fbr
Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
edited November 22 in Social Groups
WE WON'T STOP

Back to using OMAD to lose weight, improve and simplify our lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJD_muIBZg
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  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    I did a 13.1 mile run this AM, wanting to see if I'm ready to run a half marathon the end of November.
    Well despite less than ideal conditions (30+ MPH winds) I got it in 2:26 which is 34 minutes better than when I ran the same distance back in August. So the race is on, I'm going to do it and shoot for 2 hours. That will be tough but I've got to try.

    Weighed before run at 176.4, after run 172.2
    Quick way to lose 4 pounds of water. :)

    Eating plan still OMAD and NoPlants. Beginning my third week on no plants and feeling good about it.
    I'm going this week for a complete blood panel and I'm really curious to see where I'm at with everything.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Good luck! Are you going to take supplements?
  • Brendalea69
    Brendalea69 Posts: 3,863 Member
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    WE WON'T STOP

    Back to using OMAD to lose weight, improve and simplify our lives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJD_muIBZg

    NO WE WONT!!! :)
  • mittenswillet
    mittenswillet Posts: 697 Member
    OMAD for the rest of our lives......... <3<3<3<3<3<3
  • sammygold2015
    sammygold2015 Posts: 630 Member
    Good luck with the panel!
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Good luck! Are you going to take supplements?
    You mean in general or for the half marathon?
    Right now I take zinc and fish oil O3 daily, but for example when I run the half marathon distance I just take a swig of water before I start and that's it. No drinking or refueling during the run.

    I am going to test something called Phat Fibre v2 taken before a strenuous run. It's something similar to that Ucann starch that you sometimes mention.
    My thinking is that I might want to cut back on the number of days I run and total mileage, but up the intensity and/or average distance per run. In other words fewer runs but getting more out of each of them.

  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Good luck! Are you going to take supplements?
    You mean in general or for the half marathon?
    Right now I take zinc and fish oil O3 daily, but for example when I run the half marathon distance I just take a swig of water before I start and that's it. No drinking or refueling during the run.

    I am going to test something called Phat Fibre v2 taken before a strenuous run. It's something similar to that Ucann starch that you sometimes mention.
    My thinking is that I might want to cut back on the number of days I run and total mileage, but up the intensity and/or average distance per run. In other words fewer runs but getting more out of each of them.

    My question was about taking them in general and not for the marathon. I will check out the stuff you mentioned. Coconut oil works well for me before a run. Of course don't try anything new before the race but check it out first in a practice run. I like running 4xweek. That gives me lots of rest. I usually do some intervals on Mon, easy run on Tues, Race or fartlek on Thurs, Long Hill run on Saturday. Lots of ways to set it up of course. I think that to train to race, that a person should practice at faster than race pace 2xweek. More than that and I think it invites injury. At our stage once might be enough also. I doing that 2xweek myself. Good luck!
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    I'm targeting maybe 3 runs per week at a solid pace versus current 5-6, with sufficient rest in between.
    The other days some body weight type of exercise instead of running. Probably a better balance all things considered. Oh I learned my lesson long ago about trying new things on the day of a race. Disaster!
  • tlblanksfit
    tlblanksfit Posts: 1,573 Member
    Jim, how has your weight loss gone since going no plants? Are you maintaining or still losing?
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    Jim, how has your weight loss gone since going no plants? Are you maintaining or still losing?
    It's perhaps too early to tell with respect to no plants as I've only been doing it for 16 days now.
    Weight still appears to still be going down a little but my weight loss had been much slower for some time now so it's hard to draw a conclusion just yet. I'd definitely say that I've lost a pound since no plants but will know better say after 30 days.
    What I have noticed is that hunger or cravings during the day are a thing of the past and I have more energy when I want to push hard on my runs.

  • mittenswillet
    mittenswillet Posts: 697 Member
    sounds like your doing really awesome! I really admire you runners! I cant even run down a platform to catch a train.....well......I CAN but.....im not so fast....... :)
  • Brendalea69
    Brendalea69 Posts: 3,863 Member
    I had a hard time just walking today :p
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    I think the first time I tried to do a little jog this year was March or april, and I couldn't make it for 50 yards. As I write this I'm cooling down after a 6 miler. Just goes to show what you can do if you stay persistent and put in a little work.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Same here when I started. Couldn't run at all hardly.
  • Brendalea69
    Brendalea69 Posts: 3,863 Member
    My legs ached today like I had been working out but I hadn't, not sure if it's from my lymes or what...I really don't think I can run, but I sure can walk fast!!!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited October 2017
    My legs ached today like I had been working out but I hadn't, not sure if it's from my lymes or what...I really don't think I can run, but I sure can walk fast!!!

    I think one of the main reasons that causes running to be difficult for people is that most people run too fast! Most running, even by elites, is supposed to be done at a pace easy enough that you could carry on a conversation with someone while doing it! Problem is, most people are not developed cardiovascular-wise so that if they run anything past a walking pace (which is what most want to do) they are over taxed and way past that level of effort. To start running, a beginner should just jog, slowly, 50-100 yds at a time and walk in between. As the cardio capacity increases you can extent the duration. Still a lot of it shouldn't be hard. As a person gets stronger (and has their weight down to a safe level) they can do a little bit of faster stuff but that should still be only fraction of the overall running. The other big reason it can be difficult is bio-mechanical issues. If you don't have bio-mechanical issues and you want to give it a try, just take it really easy and run slower than a walk if you have to. You will be amazed how your pace will increase over time at the same level of easy to moderate effort. Also, increase distance run slowly so your legs don't get too sore!
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    I agree with Bob.
    Good advice.
  • Brendalea69
    Brendalea69 Posts: 3,863 Member
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    I did a 13.1 mile run this AM, wanting to see if I'm ready to run a half marathon the end of November.
    Well despite less than ideal conditions (30+ MPH winds) I got it in 2:26 which is 34 minutes better than when I ran the same distance back in August. So the race is on, I'm going to do it and shoot for 2 hours. That will be tough but I've got to try.

    Weighed before run at 176.4, after run 172.2
    Quick way to lose 4 pounds of water. :)

    Eating plan still OMAD and NoPlants. Beginning my third week on no plants and feeling good about it.
    I'm going this week for a complete blood panel and I'm really curious to see where I'm at with everything.

    Can't wait to see your update on how your OMAD and NoPlants is going...How did your blood panel come back?
  • mittenswillet
    mittenswillet Posts: 697 Member
    Yes Jim, dying to hear updates from you also!! bloody bacon eater hahha =)
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    I'll do an update on Sunday which will mark a full month on the no plants diet.
  • mittenswillet
    mittenswillet Posts: 697 Member
    awesome! thanks for the heads up, really interested!!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    I'll do an update on Sunday which will mark a full month on the no plants diet.

    I admire your willpower! I personally think we should eat plants though, especially the vegetables. Be careful!
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    I'll do an update on Sunday which will mark a full month on the no plants diet.

    I admire your willpower! I personally think we should eat plants though, especially the vegetables. Be careful!

    this is the default position, what we're all trained to believe.
    But what is it about eating plants that is so important?
    I've looked into it and can't really come up with a strong case.
    Why not eat the animals who eat plants and actually have stomachs designed to digest them?
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited October 2017
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    I'll do an update on Sunday which will mark a full month on the no plants diet.

    I admire your willpower! I personally think we should eat plants though, especially the vegetables. Be careful!

    this is the default position, what we're all trained to believe.
    But what is it about eating plants that is so important?
    I've looked into it and can't really come up with a strong case.
    Why not eat the animals who eat plants and actually have stomachs designed to digest them?

    Our digestive system, and teeth, are not like a carnivore's and not like a herbivore's. They are designed like an omnivore's. Wild monkeys eat a plants and meat and were not trained to eat the plant part. They probably eat more plants than meat (chimpanzees). I think our digestive system is closest to theirs than other critters.

    Carnivores' will even eat a little bit of grass. My doberman did all the time and he absolutely loved apples and grapes (would eat them off the vine).

    I also don't think meat contains all the nutrients we need (maybe if you ate all the organ meats you could get what you need but --yuuuuck!). Plus, for me, I really like a lot of plants for food!
  • mittenswillet
    mittenswillet Posts: 697 Member
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Jim_fbr wrote: »
    I'll do an update on Sunday which will mark a full month on the no plants diet.

    I admire your willpower! I personally think we should eat plants though, especially the vegetables. Be careful!

    this is the default position, what we're all trained to believe.
    But what is it about eating plants that is so important?
    I've looked into it and can't really come up with a strong case.
    Why not eat the animals who eat plants and actually have stomachs designed to digest them?

    I think as long as it works for you Jim, and that your happy with how its going is all that matters....

    i know for a fact im just a carb person, i cant live without rice or bread...i tried a few times and nearly drove myself up the wall....or maybe I did lol........ i love meat too much to go vegetarian, and i love veges too,,...but never seem to eat enough of them............either way, we can only try our best i think!! =)
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    Month Weight
    August....184.2
    Sept........178.8
    Oct.........176.7

    I'm just reporting the average weight for the final week of each month, that way it smooths out some of the noise.
    I'm happy to see the weight drift down slightly because it's really not my focus at the moment.
    My plan is still to not make any changes in November. I'm still going to stick with the same diet (no plants) and prepare for my half marathon race at the end of the month. In recent weeks I've even taken a light lunch to work on a few occasions, so I'm slowing moving away from a strict OMAD approach.
    My plan is still to take a break in the winter for a couple of months, and go back into weight loss mode,, reduce exercise and watch my portion size. I want to be in the mid 160's in the early part of 2018. Once I've reached that stage I'm done with weight loss for good hopefully, and I will begin to ramp up again on fitness, food and just maintain for the long haul. I'm thinking of it like a bear going into hibernation for a couple of winter months.

    I'm feeling great on this diet, it gets more and more comfortable as I go on with it. I feel strong, full of energy, and notice that my running has improved and also added some muscle mass. I mentioned before I think that one thing I was really interested in was to see what effect "no plants" would have on my rosacea. After one month I'm happy to say that I estimate a 50% improvement. It's definitely receding, we'll see how it goes this month.

    I'm basically healthy as the proverbial horse. :D
    I had some blood work done just to see where things stand. Lipids (total and LDL) were marked as high (probably related to this diet), but totals are not significant of much. The key ratio's like TRI/HDL I'm well within the safe zone at 1.9
    I have no markers for metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance.
    My blood pressure runs at 95/100 systolic, 55/60 diastolic, with a resting pulse around 50.
    Had some low values on certain vitamins, even below normal on D. I've started to supplement D right now, and also starting to eat more. It's a gray area at to what the RDA should be for someone like me who is basically nearly always in ketosis due to my near zero carb diet. The RDA,s are based on the standard diet assumption of roughly 50% carb's in the diet. But the carb metabolism is not the same as a fat burning metabolism. Metabolizing carb's actually requires a certain amount of many vitamins, whereas fat metabolizes rather cleanly, so who knows what the RDA should really be for me? I don't know. I'll check again next year once in maintenance mode and see where things stand after eating more vigorously. For now I'm happy with where I'm at and how I feel.

  • minigrrll
    minigrrll Posts: 1,590 Member
    Great news Jim!
  • Brendalea69
    Brendalea69 Posts: 3,863 Member
    edited October 2017
    Great numbers, my vitamin D levels are in the normal range but always on the low end...Soon you'll be hibernating like me :):):)
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Those are some good numbers! Your blood pressure is way low! Good luck. Look forwards to hearing about your 1/2 marathon.
  • Jim_fbr
    Jim_fbr Posts: 251 Member
    Thanks everyone. I'm specially happy with the BP, and I check it now a few times a week to be sure I'm not seeing an anomaly, but it's always on the low side of normal. I think for my age and how much I've tended to let myself go in the past that I'm very fortunate to be where I'm at now.

    I don't think I've mentioned this before but about 4 months before I started my weight loss campaign I drove myself to the emergency room because I thought that I might be having a heart event of some kind. I hate going to the doctor so for me to do that believe me was a first, but I was feeling things that I had never felt before, and since I was in such bad shape, morbidly obese with some history in my family of heart disease, essentially I thought my days were numbered anyway.
    So they kept me under observation for 24 hours, continuous EKG monitoring, performed a stress test, ultra-sound of the heart and a CT heart scan which looks for blockages. The verdict after all this? "You passed all tests, we cannot find anything wrong with your heart. You have not had a heart attack and there are no arterial blockages that we can find." Consulting with a doctor he was sure that it was a gastrointestinal issue aggravated by an extreme amount of hi carb food that I had been consuming too late in the day. He said that it could cause symptoms that you might confuse with a heart attack.
    Frankly I had been living under a cloud for quite some time, thinking that I was doomed to have heart issues, so this event really gave me a lift. Of course I didn't take any measures to improve my health for another four months, but once I did I really made up for lost time. I was just talking to my sister over the weekend, she had called to ask how I was doing, and I told her that honestly I hadn't felt this good in more than 20 years.
    So although it took me way too long to get things together with respect to my health, I'm hoping that maintaining this lifestyle going forward will at least give me a better quality of life (and hopefully some added years) than I would have faced had I remained defeated and resigned like I was up until that day fourteen month ago when I asked myself "I wonder if I could go a whole day and not eat any food?". lol
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