Thoughts, Epiphanies, Insights, & Quotables

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  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    edited March 7
    Thanks BC! Your two cents is worth a lot! I’m worrying over 10 pounds because at my preferred maintenance weight I’m still considered an overweight bmi. I'm treading a fine line here. And I’m genetically built like all my peasant Slavic ancestors. Not a skinny woman in the bunch - built to work behind a plow!

    My doctor is happy with my being slightly overweight at my age. Kind of a reserve against possible future catastrophic illness. I guess chubby old ladies do better than frail thin ladies.

    The quandary is holding the line and not sliding into obesity again. Thus my agonizing!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Objective: 76yo BMI 24 to 26 = zero (apriori and based on BMI and not a particular individual) difference in terms of health outcomes

    Subjective: I most certainly used the "I am still trying to lose weight" technique to MAINTAIN my weight the first COUPLE of years of maintenance. I can most certainly understand the fear.

    Feeling tired? Obviously not good. Obviously check for the "normal stuff": bloods and this that and the other.

    Major point. Temporarily (or even longer term) not pursuing weight loss is NOT license to allow weight regain or to start adding cookies to meals that didn't use to have them. If you do and if you don't increase activity to compensate yeah, it ain't going to work.

    But adding a baked or boiled potato to the previous meal instead of trying to create a deficit? That I would most certainly entertain!

    That said if you've been more or less maintaining (including a careful look at your trend), I wouldn't go around adding a whole WHACK of calories. I would keep things more to 2-250 extra and maybe even time before/after exercise to ensure that the exercise itself if fueled and energetic

    Those are my thought now... but it depends a lot on you and how you feel and whether there are other issues potentially going on! And yes. Wholesome old ladies with strength training do better than the rest!!!

  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Yooly - I'm sending you hugs and energy. I personally don't know how to maintain. When I was maintaining - I was actually still trying to lose. And when I was trying to maintain - I was gaining. I understand your fear.

    Maybe the answer lies in not thinking about food as a way to refuel our energy? Just occurred to me now :) People who do not battle with their weight don't turn to food - so what do they turn to instead?
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    For me it’s really not physical fatigue but overwhelming mental fatigue. Tired of constantly thinking about food control. I thought I’d accepted that as part of maintenance- but apparently not.
    People who do not battle with their weight don't turn to food - so what do they turn to instead?
    . Sex? Shopping channel? Hobbies? Religion? Obviously I don’t know because I have ALWAYS turned to food.

  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Nor do I, Yooly, nor do I.
    I understood you meant mental fatigue.
    I do enjoy movies :) they seem like a wonderful break from "reality." I used to read quite a bit, but that is still a bit challenging. But movies I'm liking a lot lately. Off to see a matinee today. PERFECT DAYS. Seeeing for the second time. An absolutely brilliant film - very peaceful overall.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Was thinking further...

    Discipline does take a lot of energy. If we are feeling good and life is relatively balance we don't need a lot of discipline to eat well. But when food has been a big source of comfort - and life is out of balance - suddenly a lot more discipline is required.
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    You’re right Laurie. I need to find my balance again.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Maybe the answer lies in not thinking about food as a way to refuel our energy? Just occurred to me now :) People who do not battle with their weight don't turn to food - so what do they turn to instead?

    So I may be misunderstanding this one.

    Food IS energy especially in the short term. Of course, using food as energy instead of sleeping when over-tired is counterproductive for weight management for sure!

    Using food as soothing or something to do or under various circumstances that do NOT have anything to do with energy needs is also quite counterproductive for our weight management!

    That one I don't have as clear cut an answer for myself as compared to the "tired" bit.

    I mean I sometimes manage to convert it to pacing. But I've definitely caught myself munching WHILE pacing! :lol:


    -- Laurie Books vs Eyes... potential answer = AUDIOBOOK. Also way more compatible with canines!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Though I spent years YEARS recording and presenting podcasts of writers reading their work (or maybe because of?) I really don't like audio books :)

    The energy I was referring to was that sort of psychic energy - when you are just so drained emotionally + and exhausted that you are left scrambling for ways to recover your mojo.

    Yooly - it will be much easier to find your balance when life stops rolling you around on the tilt-a-whirl. I was just thinking it won't always feel as tough as it does now. Monitoring your intake I mean?
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Ah. That energy! 🤯

    There is a Laurie podcast????🤣

  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    It's starting to feel kind of rundown but the podcasts were part of a not-for-profit literary organization called Life Rattle that I was directing for some 20 years or so ... there was a storytelling radio show, books and an annual festival.

    When the radio station shut down - we shifted to podcasts. That was in the relatively early days of podcasts so it felt very exciting.

    That work started off as occasional volunteer positions and it ended up sort of taking over my life and there really wasn't very much money even when we could start paying me. So I stepped back dramatically. Which is still really hard to watch because there really wasn't anybody to take over what I was doing. So Life Rattle isn't really doing so well these days, ironically.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    It is a lot of work to keep some things going. And you can almost never do *everything* you would like to be able to do! <hug>
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
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  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Exactly. How does that work???????!!!!!!!

    I have the feeling that my brain cells, skin cells and hair cells - especially the brain cells - have retired into fat cells.

    :s
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
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    I’m going to keep stepping on that scale until I’m laughing rather than crying!
  • BCLadybug888
    BCLadybug888 Posts: 1,692 Member
    Today the scale was my friend and took me back down into a new decade. I say new, but of course I passed it on the way up, at least twice...
    I am .2 shy of my 2023 starting weight...last year was a struggle! But I'm still standing - yeah, yeah, yeah 🎶
  • Bella_Figura
    Bella_Figura Posts: 4,322 Member
    Woot woot! That's fantastic @BCLadybug888 !
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    Good for you, BC Ladybug :) AND. A BIG AND. We are here! There IS hope :)
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    edited March 20
    @BCLadybug888

    It's all because of the water out west.... plus a bit of (but hopefully not TOO much) effort, persistence and on going ability to comply! 😉

    *western water not always necessary
  • BCLadybug888
    BCLadybug888 Posts: 1,692 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    @BCLadybug888

    It's all because of the water out west.... plus a bit of (but hopefully not TOO much) effort, persistence and on going ability to comply! 😉

    *western water not always necessary

    It's true, we do have good water out here 😜

    Thanks pals 😊 but in all transparency the 👿 ⚖️ took me back up out of the new decade this morning...as it was through no fault of my own (was riding on a high yesterday, ate well and got in activity) I shall rise above its shenanigans and await tomorrow's pronouncement.

    Serenity Now!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Well you do know that the 100s and the 10s have the longest waits.... tiny tease and then lots and lots of waiting!

    Saw my lowest since new scale recordings (Nov 22) three days ago... up up up 0.2lb at a time since then!🥺

    It's like a given!😉

    But once you've seen the tease you know it will happen someday if you continue to comply with your plan even if the infamous "if every day was like today in 5 weeks" prediction never works! 🤯
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    Wondering how Dante is doing. Hoping he’ll dazzle us with some beautiful Easter dinner photos.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    edited March 25
    Easter for Dante is a good 30+ days away. Lent started a week ago Monday. But I HAVE been wondering how Dante @Dante_80 has been doing....
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
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  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    Hope we have all avoided the temptation! Especially PAV ….
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  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    Oh nooooo...... I have to get there before they run OUT!!!!

    <I've been too busy!!!!---but I HAVE to get to Walmart... not sure if they do sales so danger is still there>
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,763 Member
    I don't think Yooly meant that as a reminder!!!!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    law of unintended consequences!
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,277 Member
    It’s been FOUR days. There’s nothing left but stale Peeps, second rate jelly beans and nasty Easter candy corn. Or waxy chocolate-like bunnies.
    You have been mercifully distracted by busy work. Consider yourself fortunate PAV!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,227 Member
    It was SLIM PICKINGS indeed....