Food inspiration, or what's for supper?

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  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    Did she have a good time????? menu sounds interesting!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Hope you had a good time, Athijade!
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Farmer's Markets are starting to open back up! Hoping to get to one this weekend. I will have to take a bus there (just a bit too far of a walk), but it is a bigger one then my local market. Not sure what they will have at this point in the season but want to get a feel for it.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Maybe some greenhouse veggies?????

    I have some kale and an open tin of chickpeas in the fridge (I just got a new can opener and had to try it :) ) so my supper will, hopefully, include those ingredients.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Maybe some greenhouse veggies?????

    Hopefully! Even Greenhouse veggies would be amazing right now. Especially if anyone has some greens because I am finally going to do those falafel bowls next week but want it on a bed of greens. I also have some Delicata squash for them that I will roast up. Think the bigger market will be a "when I want to get out" type of thing, but I will do the small market by my apartment weekly (weather permitting). Then maybe even travel and visit ones downtown or in other neighborhoods!

    I am going to start really focusing on quality of my food.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    Sounds like fun actually!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    I'm back to floundering mode. But. Did make fun/potentially good discovery with that can of chickpeas. I roasted them with ??? 1/2 tsp of coconut oil and chipotle spicing. Today 20g of those were part of my breakfast. They actually go really nicely with my usual clementines. To which I've now added 10g of almonds. Perhaps I'm on my way to a solid breakfast routine???

    Today's goal is not to eat a cake for supper.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Today's goal is not to eat a cake for supper.

    I had cake last night after dinner. While not healthy, I DID only have half the piece and am saving the other half for tonight. So I consider that a win. I was proud of myself for being able to close the box and say "I am done".

    I really need to get back to reducing my added sugar intake again. I had SO much more energy when I was focused on that.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Very good work, Athijade. That is an accomplishment that I have not made in ????
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    hmmm..... there is something to be said for some hamster tricking work Laurie!

    Let's do a nice little house walk through. We are boxing up for "donation" to our friends anything that we can not turn into 50/75/100/150/200 Cal bags of goodies. At 200Cal we are at full candy bar/granola bar/fig bar/packages territory and snacks even I admit should only be eaten one at a time!

    Goal is to reduce the number of goody goodies in the house and concentrate on filling for the calories stuff. And then we will do some hamster work!

    Heck for that matter, let's see whether we can prepare some fruit (ziplog baggies if no tupperware. personally I would probably go lemon juice in ziplog baggies, shake from bag to bag, then put my fruities in there): Why fruities? because hey: they tend to be less Cal and more filling and sort of still give you the "hit".

    From da net of the inter: "Trapped inside the tissue of fruits are molecules known as enzymes. These enzymes help fruit ripen and turn brown. When fruit is cut or starts to break down, the enzyme is released from the tissue of the fruit and exposed to air which causes the fruit to rapidly change color. This is known as enzymatic browning. Keep cut fruits, such as apples, pears, bananas, and peaches from turning brown by: Coating them with an acidic juice such as lemon, orange, or pineapple juice. Use a commercial anti-darkening preparation with fruits, such as Fruit-Fresh®*, and follow the manufacturer's directions. Mix them with acidic fruits like oranges, tangerines, grapefruit and other citrus fruit or pineapple. Prepare the acidic fruit(s) first. Then, cut the other fruits, mixing them in with the acidic fruit(s) as you prepare them. Mix with honey water. Dilute 2 tablespoons of honey with 1 cup of water, mix cut fruit with the diluted honey. Cover and refrigerate cut fruit until ready to serve.

    So here we are. We've ejected super bombs and portion packed a whole bunch of goodies.

    When I first started many many moons ago, here were the hamster rules.

    Can I have goodies? Of course I can have goodies! Who are we kidding that I won't have goodies! Goodies for the win! I can have anything and everything. Just not all at once and not all the time!

    Oh? And when/how can I have goodies? (at the time I was still sitting on the couch watching TV and reading ebooks on the kindle).

    Well there now exist goodie consumption rules.

    Eating a goodie is a sacred hamster ritual! We can't just do that while distracted watching TV! To eat goodie we have to get up from the couch. Walk to the goodie drawer in the kitchen (mine was easy to access but you could require to get a stool to climb up to it too if you wanted!). Select the goodie bag. ONE goodie bag. We cannot open the goodie bag. We now have to log the goodie bag. Accurately. making sure we are using a double checked entry (this only slows things down the first time but it is stored after, right). We also double check the weight. And log it. We cannot eat it here. We now walk back to couch. Sit. PAUSE the TV. Eat the goodies with full concentration. BUT I WANT MORE GOODIES. OF COURSE little hamster. You're absolutely allowed to have a second goody.

    But there's rules! (My rules were step based at the time but time based would do as well) You can have a second goodie if we clock 250 steps on our fitbit (or 500, or wait 3 minutes or wait 5 minutes). repeat EXACTLY as above for second goodie. You could mix in higher value or less value snack packs for the first or second snackie.

    So I am now back in front of the paused TV and I've consumed two snacks and I want a third. Why OF COURSE little hamsters you can have a third. Why not. The more the merrier. But, regardless of weather, the third snack requires that we walk... around the block (or insert what you will).

    But I want a fourth snack. Absolutely. Fourth snack is coming right up. But regardless of whether we already have the snack in the house or not, this is a high value acquisition and we are going to play the pretend game of walking to the store to "buy" it. (distance to the store I was using was 7 minutes to go and 9 to come up the hill) After "buying" it, same procedure as above.

    But I want a fifth snack. Why yes. We are going to "go get" our fifth snack. This one requires going to the store that is (at the time) 35 minutes up the hill and 30 minutes to come back

    BTW. if the desire was for a snack that was NOT in the house for any one of them, again it was an absolute go, BUT, the rule was that I would walk to go and buy it and would not consume it till after I was back and all the other setups were in place (logged, seated, undistracted while eating it).

    Can't say that the whole thing lasted for a very long time. And I sure don't use most of the above tricks (to my detriment in terms of calories). But it did give me a solid start and parts of all this I still do.

    The next step after all that was to fill the house with high volume low calories for the volume snacks (the sugar free puddings) or the more nutritious yogurts with high fiber cereal and mix ins etc. i.e. ADD to your goodies selection... stuff you still want to eat (apples, yum), but that offer better value for the calories.

    Just FYI, I did get to the fourth snack but I don't think I ever got to the fifth snack.

    The general idea is to delay, distract, and break out of any zone or compulsive, or quick eating. Minimizing and fighting damage wherever possible.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    I have a pretty good idea about the tricks, PAV. For me the most realistic one is not to have those kinds of food in the house. Yesterday I walked in the pouring rain to buy that cake...I was in a pretty down state of mind...really really hankering for cake for hours, all afternoon...finally gave in and told myself I was going to share it with friends in the evening...told them I'd be bringing cake (for insurance)...yet I still ate the entire cake in an incredibly short period of time.

    Alas, I am usually not in such a crappy state of mind so hopefully there will not be a repeat.
    And, it was pretty embarrassing to admit I had eaten the entire cake and had none to share as promised.
    This on the tail of making some significant food shifts - and not doing it particularly well - nor doing a good job of "feeding" myself well.

    But - on what I thought would be a brighter side (supposed to be!) I did buy plane tickets to go visit The Boy and his parents in Newfoundland next week. I promised I'd see him when the snow was gone - but I have no idea how treatment for the big C is going to go when my nice little "healing bubble" is over in two weeks so I thought I should go now.

    Admitting that level of reality into my mind hit like a big rock. Instead of being happy I took a little spin the other way. But that is settling now - and so far today I have been on more level ground. Might even do something with that kale (and cauliflower and broccoli :) ) in the fridge.

    Watch out bunnies :)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,297 Member
    You just go and enjoy your trip to Newfoundland!
    The treatment will be what it is and you can get through it. Your cancer was caught early and I’m sure like most women you’ll manage. Not happily but you will do it. I’m sure there are support groups available that can provide support and advice. Please seek them out for your peace of mind.
    And lay off the cakes girl! If food solved all our problems we’d be absolutely giddy every day. ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    Smart Yooly, I agree
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Almost every day I've been on the bright side of this. The past few days is really the first time I've actually started to wrap my head around where I'm at. Reality must be faced. To try to pretend everything is fine isn't any healthier than pretending it isn't happening. I hope I've caught it early. I'll find out in two weeks. Fingers crossed.

    But no matter what, cake will not help :)

    Or maybe it did :)
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,297 Member
    Okay I’ll grant you the cake might have helped a bit. But surely not the whole thing because it left you with yet another thing to be unhappy about.

    Waiting on pathology is awful! No getting around the weeks of anxiety. I’ve always done better being informed rather than waiting.
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Hey guys, I'm feeling a bit battered here. I'll know where not to fess up to any eating indiscretions in the future.
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,297 Member
    I hope I haven’t been too hard on you! You are going through a rough time. I think sometimes written words are harsher than those spoken? There’s no tone of voice or facial expression.
    Please know I’ve been there and fully understand. We all need a safe confessional and hopefully this is that safe place.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    edited April 2023
    ??? Laurie? That's inner bad hamster voice talking! 🙀

    I don't think anyone of us, including myself, is berating you for eating cake for kitten's sake!

    I may be betraying myself for diving into a bag of easter egg chocolate I didn't need to buy, but let's face it, it would be pretty lame if I was berating others for what I do myself.

    Sharing what sometimes works? Absolutely! That's how we learn hamster tricks from each other!

    But do remember that we often post and talk with only partial information on hand

    Think on this:

    Laurie: yesterday I ate an over 4,000 Cal of crap nutrition food and I'm angry at myself for eating an extra soup and breadsticks for no real reason

    Think on your reaction and what you will post back.....

    Now second go:

    Laurie: yesterday (same stuff I wrote above) while at the olive garden for my father's birthday where half the guests didn't show up because of in family COVID!

    Would what you be making changes to your post?😝

    So. I'm just sending a big hug to you and confirming that waiting weeks for results is like Ugh!

    I'm just amazed how together you've been! So much so I was not even processing that you're just a tiny bit stressed 💞
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Sorry, y'all. I'm just feeling a bit sensitive.
    If you have been here, Yooly, you know that there is a moment when it hits you. Somewhere between the oblivious denial :) and feeling sorry for oneself there is a moment of awareness of how your life will never be the same again.
    I'm not a sad person. Nor am I delusional :)
    That cake was not a good dinner for many reasons. But it was what it was and this is the only place where people might understand that type of excessive consumption so I dropped in my "confession" and carried on with my day with my new breakfast and plans for the veggies waiting in the fridge.
    My regular eating friends find it incomprehensible that I could eat an entire cake.
    I am pleased I stopped at one.
    I will focus on eating healthy food and reducing my deficit to give my body all it needs to heal and fight and to prevent urges to binge.
    But, should I be hit with a new level of awareness that I as of yet have no inkling of, another cake might be in my future. I will try to time the purchase a bit better so that I will share it.
    Hopefully there will be much healthy eating (at a modest deficit) between these epiphanies.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    What's strange about eating a cake?

    (is that a weird statement to make?)
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    PAV, there are weird people out there making way weirder statements.
    I saw an addictions counsellor when I was struggling a bit 6 months after quitting smoking. I admitted to eating a 6 pack of donuts. He was SHOCKED. REALLY SHOCKED. :D Suggested that this indicated I had been sexually abused as a child.
    This man happened to be in a very high position in an internationally renowned addictions and mental health hospital - spearheading a new clinic devoted to nicotine addiction.
    The closest I can remember to sexual abuse as a child was my dad bringing home a chocolate bar for me on pay days.
    SIX donuts!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    Is that more or less than a 40 pack of Tim bits? What happens if you then add a few from the 40 pack that was going to the other people?????🙀

    Does this ALSO mean that my previous dog needed counseling? Because it's entirely possible he ate most of a 40 pack and would have not voluntarily stopped on his own!
  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,297 Member
    My heart just hurt 😞 knowing I may have added to Laurie’s emotional burden. Honestly the very thought kept me up at night. How could I have been so insensitive? I will try to do better and not be so glib in the future.

    Anyone needing to lose 75 pounds or more can relate to episodes of crazy out of control binges. We’ve all done it and more than once. Sometimes the sadness is so great that at least there’s some comfort in the excess food. It numbs the ache but afterward there’s the self hate...

    And yes, I am a member of the boobs-of-different-sizes club. Precancerous papillomas. Implants of titanium markers of suspicious areas. And several biopsys and pathology waits. One surgery was fairly easy except for the wait. The second developed a huge hematoma requiring an an emergency room visit where I bled on everything in sight. It took a month to heal and I had drainage tubes installed. Bugger just kept swelling and filling up with fluid.

    I promise to think before posting and hopefully am forgiven.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    edited April 2023
    I hope Laurie realizes that I missed the mark/underlying text before and was not trying to add to her turmoil.

    I tend to pull these things in the middle of the night, so no access to cake. Just whatever is available at open fast food and convenience locations or already at home!
  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    XOXO

    I love you guys and I know your hearts are always in the right place and I'm just super sensitive at the moment ❤️ and I haven't really spoken about any of the stuff going on in my mind because it seems best not to think about it and most of the time I don't.

    The next step on the cancer treatment front is radiation once I'm all healed up. So long as Mr Conservative surgeon man lopped off enough of Magdalena🤞🏻 and the lymph nodes they took out are all clear it will stop there.
    But I don't know how long it will take to shake the fear that there's still some of it inside of me waiting to kill me - now that the fear has made its way through my bullheadedness. A whole cake coma might be the only thing capable of putting it out of my mind (just kidding bourbon might work too with fewer calories 😁 three shots and I'll be asleep for sure). Actually that idea is already losing its power...when I think about it I just sort of say yeah yeah to myself rather than getting freaked. Most people do survive breast cancer.

    But ... PAV ... I'm afraid your pup may have been sexually abused as a child. That's the only thing that explains the eating of so many deep fried edibles.



  • Yoolypr
    Yoolypr Posts: 3,297 Member
    edited April 2023
    Ended up double booked for lunch today which blew the calories out of sight. I was bringing Easter flowers to a 90 year old friend and specifically asked that she not set out food because I was making lunch for son later. I arrived to find the table set and expensive store bought quiches warmed up. How do I refuse her hospitality when I know meager pension funds went to pay for those calorific quiches? And cookies too! And a to-go box cause I didn’t eat enough!

    Back home an hour later I made a special lunch for son and hubby. It was a meal I had logged and looked forward to all week. Had some of that too.

    I cut back on dinner but still way over.

  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    Sounds like you were kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, Yooly.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,252 Member
    I've done that! And for less reasons!
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    The Famers's Market was so nice! I spent way too much money but I couldn't help it. Fresh greens, micrograms, green onions, mushrooms, cheese, pasta, cider, and even an almond croissant (my weakness).

    So my meal plan will be (in no order):

    Steak, baked potato, and roasted zucchini (got a tbone for 50% off at the store)

    Fresh Ricotta ravioli with tomato sauce, spinach, and peas

    Falafel bowls with greens, micro greens, green onions, delicata squash, fresh goat feta, and hummus

    Chicken, mushroom, and zucchini stir fry with rice

  • lauriekallis
    lauriekallis Posts: 4,770 Member
    These sound delicious! Do you plan for one "big" meal per day and have standard go to items for the other meals or ?