How many π°π°π°π°π° did I eat?π
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yesterday: 8 x (85g) fruit bunnies for 311 Calories cantaloupe, honeydew, pineapple, watermelon
today, so far: 3 x (85g) veggie bunnies for 75 Calories cauliflower, broccoli, carrots
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Woohoo, PAV!
Yesterday I managed about 10 dust bunnies :) But then I broke the broom handle (that was some aggressive dust bunny wrangling :)
they they must be a few bunnies each (beets, spinach, blueberries and lemon) - I will weigh one today - and some curried veggie soup. Yesterday was actually a very "normal" (what I think would be normal), moderate day.2 -
Hmmmβ¦. veggie bunnies vs dust bunniesβ¦. it's a race! My veggie bunnies took a nose dive yesterday (and will probably continue to be quite low today)β¦. because I made egg salad and, TBH, it was an "on the fly thing" and forgot to add potatoes :)
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I picked up a cauliflower today!
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How do i translate cups and fruit pieces.
Are nuts, seeds, legumes included?
Breakfast 1/2c blueberries, tbsp pb
Lunch 1c mixed veg & green beans
Dinner 1 1/2c green beans
Later probs 2 clentine tangerines (1/2 lg equivalent?) And anotger tbsp pb
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Nuts seeds hmmmm lΓ©gumes probably
Think items that would qualify for your "five a day" veggies and fruits.
Now, normally, 5 a day excludes "starches". However I personally find no reason to exclude from my "goodies" count stuff that can be both very nutritious and filling just because some people choose to boil it in oil as compared to me boiling it in water! So I do count potatoes etc. and as long as you already bag a few veg.... I'm not going to begrudge you some lentils!!!!!π
The definition in the studies is either 80 or 85g with dried items (such as raisins or cranberries) being at half of that (~about 40g). How that corresponds to cups and pieces π€·ββοΈ
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Do you have a scale, Yakky?
If not - I have a scale and regularly eat the foods you have listed - I can measure them and give you an idea - for our "bunnies" thread I think that is accurate enough.BUT.
I highly recomend a scale to get an idea of serving size for things like peanut butter :) My idea of a single teaspoon serving was really closer to three when I checked the weight. Now that I know what "a" serving is on some of the big ticket items, I'm trying to relax a bit on the scale front and not be so particular - becuase that leads to me being obsessive and that leads to me giving up. Everyone is different - I know at least one person around here who thrives on precise data :)π
I don't count nuts/legumes as bunnies. They feel to me like they don't fit into the vibe of eating lots of bunnies for physical sense of fullness without high calories.
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I can just see 85g of peanuts (aren't they a legume?π€£) or macadamia nuts adding up to a couple of calories!
The reason Laurie is that I do not consider the mechanics of evaluating, measuring, counting and recording as part of the deficit or maintenance.
How to explain.... deficit is getting the groceries at home. But you can use Instacart or amazon, or drive out to pick up a store order, or drive out and buy the stuff yourself, or a taxi or Uber, or your bike, or you could walk to the store and back and achieve the same. So the counting and recording is just the method of getting the groceries. So to me that's a related but separate part of the process.
Like... having a budget doesn't mean you never go for coffee or never buy paint supplies. But sure you might do either of these two less often if you want to stay within the budget π€·ββοΈ
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So, thinking plants. Hence seeds, like the quinoa yesterday? Peanuts tonight?
Stripping out grains and nuts/seeds and legumes
Then according to servings.
Breakfast 1/2c blueberries - 1 bunny
Lunch 2 1/2c mixed greens & veg from a bag - 1 bunny
2 Tbsp craisins & cup green beans = 2 bunnies
Dinner - tangelo 1/2 bunny
Today 4 1/2 bunnies.
Re a scale - someone in the forums posted how to use a tare button that made real sense for building my salads and bowls.
Looked online at reviews until my eyes buggered and everything had such devastating reviews i gave up.
Any recommendations?
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Both ozeri scales I have work fine.
Backlight is nice zk24. Platform larger. Still need to use an empty can or glass to raise something that obscures reading.
Place "riser" and maybe a plate. Tare. Add item to measure
Or place jar without lid. Tare. Remove what you want. Negative value shown is measurement.
The smaller zk28 no backlight is smaller. Same capacity (6kg too, which makes a difference for me from 3kg or 5lb or smaller scales)
For values below a lb the zk28 is more sensitive. So it gets the coffee and cookies and chocolate for me. And the car scale is a zk28 (cause cheap).
The much higher rated and very nice on operation Oxo with 5lb capacity is in the drawer π€·ββοΈ
When buying scales don't get stuff that's not sensitive to 1g (some are 2g or 5g) because oil, for example, may be something you use sparingly.
Response speed, low power consumption, rechargeable batteries and you're good to go
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2 potato bunnies (the british wouldn't count them)
0.5 bunny in the egg salad I would guess
3.25 CORN bunnies, if I am allowed to name them as such? cause calories indicate that dried corn is what becomes POP CORN! :-) so 70g of corn to be popped⦠is about 240g of RAW corn :)
I am a bunnie cheater as opposed to just hanging my head in shame! :-)1 -
Yes! Yakky
PAV - I'm thinking potatoes are okay - they are a vegetable - maybe close to the fence because of the starch - but fit the concept of a bunny when bunny counting. Not sure about the dried corn - corn is a grain not a vegetable? π€¨
You lost me here - I know there is something important in here for me to considerβ¦but it is not registering:
"The reason Laurie is that I do not consider the mechanics of evaluating, measuring, counting and recording as part of the deficit or maintenance.
How to explain.... deficit is getting the groceries at home. But you can use Instacart or amazon, or drive out to pick up a store order, or drive out and buy the stuff yourself, or a taxi or Uber, or your bike, or you could walk to the store and back and achieve the same. So the counting and recording is just the method of getting the groceries. So to me that's a related but separate part of the process."
Though I absolutely agree with the budget paragraph:
"Like... having a budget doesn't mean you never go for coffee or never buy paint supplies. But sure you might do either of these two less often if you want to stay within the budget π€·ββοΈ"
For me β¦ maybe? I'm not sure? β¦ I'm better to stay within budget long term if I look at my overall available funds and the cost of things important to me and set up a monthly plan that is thought out, has guidelines, and tracks my activities but is a little less detailed on a daily basis? I can then recheck my quantities every once in a while if the bank account/scale suggest I have strayed off? I can do the more detailed approach, but that becomes hyperfocus and that takes over and then feels unsustainable.
As in my freezer meals. They are big bulk cooking adventures - mostly vegetable with some legumes and olive oil for sauteing onion and garlic. Some of this is a real pain to measure exactly - especially if I really really really don't want to cook and am just putting it together with the last threads of determination.
When I did measure exactly - most frozen servings came within 50 calories of 350. This was just normal prep - not trying to match a recipe or be careful with calories. So, I now just consider them as 350 calories and 2 bunnies. I'm tracking that number and I think it is pretty close on the calorie/bunny count, but not exact. And this method feels easy - and feels like something I can manage without altering my life?
For me - the potential calorie overages on this level are not what causes me problems. My problem comes when I throw my hands in the air, pick up a loaf of bread and eat half with marmalade for a dinner that carries on until bedtime.
I'm not a "data" person naturally - I don't really enjoy the satisfaction of measuring or crunching numbers correctly - so to track at that level requires me to step out of myself in a way that feels like I'm in some kind of crisis mode. I can do it. But then it comes to an end when I need to focus on something else and my brain just wants to shut down on the food front. So I'm trying to find a happy medium that I can live with for the rest of my life and hopefully maintain a healthy weight.
This is why I'm a better cook than a baker. Baking is just too exact! :)1 -
Nods, interesting.
I remember treats for meals, no freggies. So practically speaking, something like bunnies helps me be intentional to eat freggies.
I knew no person who calorie counted pre-intetnet. Think grandparents used scales and clothes fit to guage when to adjust amount eaten. I remember hearing oh so & so would go back to milk and toast breakfast. Another salad and orange lunch. Drop after dinner dessert. All of these people ate rather traditional 3 squares a day, real food, prior to the main aisles full of junk/convenience goodies we see at grocery now.
I am not sure how long or precise I want to measure all. I think my goal is to understand how much I should eat. That will change overtime, so I can see this at least as a helpful intermittent tool.
This has been a real learning experience for me - I still want to eat more than the calculator says, and balancing the carbs/macros for health reasons is eye opening. Quite not my preference! So understand what my body needs is a compelling reason to tackle this.
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And nobody will find me arguing against personalized methods!!!π
In the 80s they had little calorie booklets. That was a disastrous lose weight fast during the summer as a teenager and regain it with friends over the next winter.
Yes Laurie: you see colours and beauty and the complete composition. I see little Lego blocks! π€£ You see blood orange red and you add in a bit of blueβ¦ I see R:255 G:83 B:73 and change the blue to 77 π€£π€£π€£
Finding a way to either interrupting that moment, or limiting the amount of times you end up there is your big value play.
Possibly even if there is a cost to that interruption that at first glance appears no better? For example having a (BLUE) cheese sandwich after you recognize where this is heading may seem like a bad move initially (lots of calories accepted instead of trying to stop) but if it interrupts the loaf with a jar of marmalade mood it may ultimately be beneficial π€·ββοΈπ€·ββοΈπ€·ββοΈ???
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I am very slowly learning , PAV! Youβre such an amazing writer!
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Hard to figure out my bunnies so far today!
Sure, the 110g of cooked california veggies rice is close to 1.5 frozen bunnies. But the 305g of Green Giant, Restaurant Style, Spring Veggies, Brown Rice & Quinoa I mixed it into? π€·ββοΈ And there must be some bunnies in the crave pulled chicken burrito bowl that I juxtaposed on the other side of the plate :)
Oh well. About 725g (actual) and about 684Cal. So good 'density' ;-)
I tend to round Cal to the closest integer which makes for some interesting looking item weights⦠my scale does not actually do 1/100s of a gram :-)
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Thatβs a whole lotta bean counting there PAV! I actually kind of fear scrutinizing my eating/exercise/bodily functions to that degree. Obviously I would learn a lot about myself -but then - do I really want to know that much? Should I clutter my finite and deteriorating brain cells with that many numbers?
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Pffft on finite and deterioratingπ€£
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πππππ bunnies today β¦ maybe one more but I didnβt weigh the smoothie is which I meant to do π
large apple for breakfast (forgot to buy Clementine yesterday), blueberry beet spinach smoothie, salad with main meal (falafal and rice and salad divided up and eaten through the day a la PAV), banana2 -
Caulirice with mixed veg at breakfast 1 bunny
Mixed vegs in soup at lunch and dinner - another bunny
2 today
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Ha! Laurie! That sounds like more than five bunnies! Unless these are tiny tiny portions! I mean a large apple is probably more than 2 bunnies by itself!
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Bought clementines ! :)
I weighed them today (first time in a long time :) and 3 small clementines - think small enough to sit on the face of my phone - weighed 195g with skin and 160 without. So close enough to 2π
You are right, PAV, weighed a comparable apple today and it was 155g - 2ish π2 -
Your large apples are small!!!π€£π€£π€£
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Blueberries 1 bunny
Are we counting nut butters?
- Tried powdered pb2 pure in my yogurt, liked it. Rehydrated would be 1/2 bunny
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I'm not one to be against weighting stuff.... I think we all know that! π€£π€£π€£
But loafs and marmalades (and nuts, like me!π€£) --- or vanilla cones or pizza slices I may happen to randomly encounter while roaming the streets (hence the car scale!!!π€£π€£π€£)... they are probably higher value scale information!!!
But go bunnies! Just.... the scale is to inform and help make better decisions. Not to punish by denying cookies! But to allow you to add extra clementines or apples!!!π€£π€£π€£ Boiled and baked potatoes too Ms Vegetarian... with rutabaga, oh my!!!!
Hamster πΉ πΉ πΉ management and bunnies ππ°ππ° for the win!
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Car scale??? Beep beep!
And a hamster is?
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I'm buying those bags of imperfect apples :) they are imperfectly "large"
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I should let PAV explain this - but I'll give it a try. Hamsters are those little beasts in our brains who try every trick in the book to get us to ingest all the high calories treats that they want. :)
Like the other nuts and legumes - I think Peanut Butter is out of the bunny race. Too high calorie/too little bulk1 -
For better or worse - I've pulled the scale out :)
Supposed to be only on damage control until 1 week past 2nd eye surgery (don't really have a surgery worthy cataract - the surgeon is being nice and giving me equal vision eyes :) )
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things are going well and I'm all inspired :) Thank you Yakky and PAV for making me think about weighing things again2
