Daily Check In Thread -- 10k+ version

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  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    I ran 3 miles on the TM tonight since I blew off my run last night. I really wanted to quit at 2 miles. At 2.5 I was exhausted but knew I could hang on for another half mile. At 3 miles I felt pretty good and rewarded myself with a nice stretch & some quality time with the foam roller on my IT bands.
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270


    The plan calls for the weeks to build like typed below, but I might do the weekly mileage building more gradually by shortening the Thurs run and repeating the long run distances for two weeks before adding a mile. The quick build to multiple 10 mile runs within a month intimidates me. What do you think?:

    WEEK 1: Tues. 4 x 400s Thurs. 3-mile tempo Sat. 6 mile long run
    WEEK 2: Tues. 4 x 800s Thurs. 4-mile tempo Sat. 8 mile long run
    WEEK 3: Tues. 3 x 1600 Thurs. 5-mile tempo Sat. 10 mile long run
    WEEK 4: Tues. 6 x 400 Thurs. 6-mile tempo Sat. 6 mile long run
    WEEK 5: Tues. 3 x 1600 Thurs. 4-mile tempo Sat. 10 mile long run
    WEEK 6: Tues. 4 x 800 Thurs. 8-mile tempo Sat. 8 mile long run
    WEEK 7: Tues. 6 x 400 Thurs. 6- mile tempo Sat. 10 mile long run
    WEEK 8: Tues. 4 x 1600 Thurs. 8-mile tempo Sat. 12 mile long run
    WEEK 9: Tues 3 x 800 Thurs. 3-mile tempo Sat. 6 mile long run
    WEEK 10: Tues. 4 x 400 Thurs. 2 mile tempo HALF MARATHON

    I am not qualified to speak to plans...however, it doesn't seem extreme...even see some pullback in there. Honestly, there seems to be big jumps in weekly though, almost seems like the plan assumes a good base is already in place. Heres my numbers from FIRST and I feel that weekly mileage would be too much at first

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    on second thought, the weekly doesn't seem bad, although the long run pace is a full minute and half faster than i have gotten from other plans

    you know what, I remember reading that a member here does the FIRST thingy, I can't remember who, but they would be excellent to talk to about it
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270
    @rindy...i am jealous you have layers figured out...i can't seem to get both halves in sync

    @laura..great job tonight, especially on a tready....
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    Rindy & Laura - great runs yesterday!!

    Yesterday was strength training for me. I switched to a different gym and it was my first workout there. They have a lot more equipment and the place is just nicer in general.
    on second thought, the weekly doesn't seem bad, although the long run pace is a full minute and half faster than i have gotten from other plans

    you know what, I remember reading that a member here does the FIRST thingy, I can't remember who, but they would be excellent to talk to about it

    I am loosely following the FIRST plan. Right now I am doing a hacked-up plan to carry me to the end of March. That's when I begin the first of two 16-week marathon training plans. I read the book "Run Less, Run Faster" and I know they don't like "junk miles" but I added an easy run to my schedule. I talked with our speedwork coach who is an old, very experienced runner and he told me I need to be running much more often. So I'm trying to decide if I need to revamp my plan.

    You can see my 2014 plan at the link below. Note: I don't put any specific workout for speedwork because it's a group workout and we never know what we are doing that night until we show up. And I put runs next to races (in red) but those probably won't happen - just there to remind me of my total mileage needed for the week.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_WFiqu1-lm7WnhSVFZLQ2xjOVU/edit?usp=sharing
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270
    Very nice , Tim. Even without a revamp it still looks like your running often. Both you and Bttr plans look a lot more intense than the one I am following. I am not sure how to share my gip.is plan...I wouldn't mind getting some opinions on that either. But I will try it all the way through..it's only 18 weeks, so if it turns out to not be very well, I'll just try another one.

    I wish I had the availability of races that you do. That is A LOT of races!
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    I wish I had the availability of races that you do. That is A LOT of races!

    And that's not even all of them. Next month I'd like to squeeze in either a fast 5K or a trail half-marathon. I'm leaning towards doing the trail race but taking it easy. Then there's the North Face Endurance Challenge which doesn't have a date yet but should be the end of September. I am targeting 50K for that race (I have all day to run it). And finally there's the One EPIC Run in South Carolina which should be in early December. That's a 24-hour run on a 3-mile trail loop. Might go for 50 miles if I don't bonk.
  • PaytraB
    PaytraB Posts: 2,360 Member
    And... No running for 4 days ;( at this rate I'll be able to go hopefully Saturday :( this morning was not pretty, almost completely lost my voice and my cold has settled nicely in my chest. So hot toddys and medicine for this girl ;( sad sad sad ;( everyone have a run for me!!!!

    Well, poop! That sucks! It kinda sounds like you have what I did a few weeks ago. I did lose my voice entirely. i will run for you tomorrow! :-)

    madmiss, I'm sorry to hear that you're still not well. My husband had something like this just before Christmas. It's not pleasant. Get well soon. I will run for you tomorrow, too.
  • PaytraB
    PaytraB Posts: 2,360 Member
    I'm loosely following the 10K Runner app. Yesterday, I adapted the training run for 25 min run + 3 min walk + 20 min run + 3 min walk + 7 min run (an extra session to fit my allotted TM time). In total I ran 6.2K in the 52 minutes.
    It's a tough slog on the TM and I hope that tomorrow is pleasant enough for an outdoor run.
  • madmiss
    madmiss Posts: 219 Member
    I am starting on the Cool Running half marathon training program on Monday - http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/134.shtml should be fun, even though I'm basically half way through it already :) Hopefuilly I will be well!!! I got some mucinex this am, that stuff is the BOMB, but so expensive :(
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270
    I am starting on the Cool Running half marathon training program on Monday - http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/134.shtml should be fun, even though I'm basically half way through it already :) Hopefuilly I will be well!!! I got some mucinex this am, that stuff is the BOMB, but so expensive :(

    running 5 times a week!!!! oh my. I wish i had the energy for that myself. Very cool!
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    I am starting on the Cool Running half marathon training program on Monday - http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/134.shtml should be fun, even though I'm basically half way through it already :) Hopefuilly I will be well!!! I got some mucinex this am, that stuff is the BOMB, but so expensive :(

    Awesome!! Hope you are recovered soon! Yeah, Mucinex has been quite effective for me in the past. Also single-malt Scotch but I'm not allowed to buy that any more. :-(

    My leg feels much better today. Below is a photo from yesterday morning. It was red and tender to the touch. Today I can just barely make out some redness and the tenderness is gone. I had planned on a tempo run today but will change that to a short easy run just to see how my leg responds.

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  • madmiss
    madmiss Posts: 219 Member
    Sorry about your leg Tim ;(

    Single malt scotch huh ;) there's a lot of that in the liquor cabinet at our house, but eugh.....

    So far mucinex has made me float around the office in a cloud of happiness, it's great!!!! I feel better too ;) for my birthday all my friends bought me running gift cards and booze lol they know me well ;)
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    TIm, Joe and Varda: I'm excited by all your speed work talk, now that I think I might have some speed in me. Before my leg stuff I was doing my own quasi-version of speed work on the track by running a mile walking two laps x 3. I was getting a 9:30 -10:00 average pace with those. My 8:36 mile shocked the heck out of me! It was in stark constrast to my two previous slow and snowy runs 4 mile! I didn't really intend to do it, I was just feeling my oats after being laid up so long.

    That happens. You've built up a base and then go out with completely fresh legs. If your lungs can handle it, your legs can.
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    Just did a short 4.4 mile run with my wife. It was a little wet out - some mist in the air but warm compared to the past few days. A balmy 49°F! We had to stop early on to shed a layer because we were getting too warm. Overdressed a little, I guess. The run felt a little hard after yesterdays leg workout at the gym. Especially my hip flexors. The new gym I started going to has a machine that works the hip flexors (or quads depending on how you move your leg). I'm feeling that today!

    I'm looking forward to our Sunday long run. Can't believe it but there's actually sunshine in the forecast! After 5 consecutive weekends of rain that will feel great! I hope everyone has a great & active weekend!
  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    Madmiss I hope the Mucinex works for you. I finally have learned to buy that first - otherwise I spent a fortune on cheaper cold medicines and end up buying the Mucinex anyway. I got a cold right after Christmas last year (started in the chest, then moved to the head, then moved into my eyes) and after the fact figured out that I had spent over $150 on cold medicine. Should have just started with the Mucinex.

    Varda & Tim & Joe & Beth I have to confess when you talk training plans and specifics I feel like you're speaking a foreign language. I do not have all the runner lingo down. So I'm going to keep paying attention and hopefully learn something. This is probably why my trainer pushed me to join the half training group.

    Tim thanks for posting that photo of your leg. That seems so strange! Glad you're due for some sunshine finally over the weekend! It's finally warming up here too.

    I have my layering figured out for when it's really cold but not sure how to dress when it's 30 degrees. Maybe just 2 layers instead of 3? Going to Fargo tomorrow for the weekend, so the plan is to get up early & sneak in 6 miles before I go.
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    Laura - yes I think 2 layers would do, at least for me. In that weather I would wear two long-sleeve tops (or a long-sleeve shirt and a light jacket), tights, hat, and gloves. Have fun in Fargo (I don't know much about the place but I loved the movie).
  • bttrthanevr
    bttrthanevr Posts: 615 Member
    I ran outside tonight in a dark, wet but balmy 34 degrees. No yaks needed, but I did have to run off the road into the banked snow for two cars, so my first mile probably could have been better than 10:36, but this was a "bonus" run. ( I promised madmiss I would run one for her today.) "Sucks to my asmar" though, I was wheezing after. That hasn't happened to me in a long time. But I have been off my Singulair for over a month due to my prescription running out....Time to get back on it. I wore regular tights, a long sleeve tech shirt and a light jacket with gloves and a hat (also my cyclops eye headlamp and my snazzy reflective vest). I was comfortable to verging on slightly too warm.

    madmiss, I'm glad a mucinex induced happy haze has made you feel a little better. :-) I hope you had a wonderful birthday in spite of it. Did you gat any cool running gear? ☺ I wonder why your plan has 880s? I thought 800s were the norm…hmmm.

    Tim and Joe thanks for the input and sharing your plans...I am intimidated by my plan, but willing to give it a go. I may have to adjust it though, due to my Runnning Revolution duties. I will be "coaching" the 13.1 mile completion group. That is my real goal...just to FINISH...despite all this speedwork business. I will need to adhere to a plan developed together with two other coaches...at least one night a week. That is TBD.

    Tim, I am jealous of all your race opportunities too. My area has a surprising number of races considering the remote location, but it doesn't have anything like the opportunities you have. Lucky! Your plan is impressive. Your leg however is baffling...how odd that it could look as it did in your photo, then disappear in a day or two. Weird and ow!

    Great run, Rindy!!! Good luck with your race!

    Way to conquer the dreaded 'mill Petra, Laura and Varda! I hope you guys can get back outside soon.

    Laura, I’m still learning the lingo too…but definitely running with a group will advance your learning.
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270
    10:36 is bad *kitten*.
  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    10:36 is bad *kitten*.

    This.
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    Tim, I am jealous of all your race opportunities too. My area has a surprising number of races considering the remote location, but it doesn't have anything like the opportunities you have. Lucky! Your plan is impressive. Your leg however is baffling...how odd that it could look as it did in your photo, then disappear in a day or two. Weird and ow!

    Yeah living around Atlanta does have some advantages. Always something going on every week of the year.

    My leg is a little achy again this morning but no bruise. Today is a total rest day. We'll see how it feels on Sunday's long run. Hoping for 10 miles. My other foot now has some pain in the big toe joint. I've had that off-and-on long before running and the podiatrist never found anything. He suggested I get checked for gout but I never did. Maybe I should.
  • timeasterday
    timeasterday Posts: 1,368 Member
    Glad I'm not running this morning! Just checked the weather and saw this. Tornado warning north of Atlanta.

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  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    My leg is a little achy again this morning but no bruise. Today is a total rest day. We'll see how it feels on Sunday's long run. Hoping for 10 miles. My other foot now has some pain in the big toe joint. I've had that off-and-on long before running and the podiatrist never found anything. He suggested I get checked for gout but I never did. Maybe I should.

    Hope your rest day takes care of both the leg & toe pain! At least the bruise is gone.
  • joedfro
    joedfro Posts: 270
    Wow...stay safe Tim.

    65 minutes...6.5 miles...@10:06...good morning for a run!
  • romyhorse
    romyhorse Posts: 694 Member
    I feel that I have lost alot of my speed since I have been running with my kids so last night I ran a 5k on my usual route and I was 3 minutes slower than the last time I ran it. The first km I thought I was pushing it a bit but I was almost a minute slower than my easy run pace. So down heartening. It didn't help that I'd been weightlifting the day before, that always makes my legs feel tired and heavy. Guess I just need to run more! I haven't signed up for my first race in March yet as my right knee is sore when I run uphill and this race has a 4km long uphill section in the middle, going to continue with my knee exercises and see how it goes.
  • madmiss
    madmiss Posts: 219 Member
    Thanks all for the well and birthday wishes ;) I think I'm going to try for it tomorrow - it will be 7 days tomorrow, and I feel a lot better today. Mucinex is working great, I am very happy!!!! Just have a residual cough and minor sniffles now that's well under control with the new meds, so I feel a lot better. I also have a photoshoot tomorrow, so that has to take precedence over me trying to run if I'm truly not ready. I'd rather not have a relapse!

    Beth, I got gift certificates to the running store, a subscription to running world and booze lol - my friends know me very we'll ;)

    Thank you for running for me! I'm sorry your asthma was acting up ;( your times are so great!!!! Especially in the snow!

    Everyone is doing so well, I'm so proud ;)
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    10:36 is bad *kitten*.

    This.

    This X3. She always was a speedster though, even during C25k.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I feel that I have lost alot of my speed since I have been running with my kids so last night I ran a 5k on my usual route and I was 3 minutes slower than the last time I ran it. The first km I thought I was pushing it a bit but I was almost a minute slower than my easy run pace. So down heartening. It didn't help that I'd been weightlifting the day before, that always makes my legs feel tired and heavy. Guess I just need to run more! I haven't signed up for my first race in March yet as my right knee is sore when I run uphill and this race has a 4km long uphill section in the middle, going to continue with my knee exercises and see how it goes.

    I'm going with it was a sluggish run combined with lifting. I think a time or two and you'll be back at it.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    I marked where I live. I woke up at 8 and considered a run. By 9:30, it was raining and gusting so hard I thought the house was going to come down around me. By 12:30, it completely stopped and we had a lovely afternoon.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Laura - I think you give me too much credibility for knowing what I'm talking about. :wink:
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    After my last (second) running 5k, I totally understood speed work. You need it to properly gauge effort during the shorter races and to convince your body that it has something left when you see the finish line.

    varda..did you check out gip.is to see if that met some of your requirements for a training plan?

    It's pretty awesome and I'm considering it. I love that it adapts to the number of days that you can run.
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