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Hi, just popping in to ask a general question instead of starting a new topic
Do any of you take an extra day in between workouts, due to muscle soreness? I have Stage 1/B3 scheduled today and my buns kill from A3, I'm just nervous about doing squats like this, so if I do it tomorrow I still get 1 day's rest before A4 on Monday and it won't mess up my overall schedule.
Push through the DOMS or break an extra day? Thoughts?0 -
cloudbustr: I say if you are really feeling it today you have two choices: do it but maybe with less intensity or lighter weights. hold off for today and try to go back at full speed tomorrow. Think you can go either way and are equally good. trust your body. maybe you need the extra day.0
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Hi, just popping in to ask a general question instead of starting a new topic
Do any of you take an extra day in between workouts, due to muscle soreness? I have Stage 1/B3 scheduled today and my buns kill from A3, I'm just nervous about doing squats like this, so if I do it tomorrow I still get 1 day's rest before A4 on Monday and it won't mess up my overall schedule.
Push through the DOMS or break an extra day? Thoughts?
If you are feeling uneasy or like you might hurt yourself then definitely take a break. If you think you could do it either at a lower weight or body weight, then go ahead and do that. LIke KCF said, trust your body. It'll tell you how it feels.
For me, I'd probably take an extra day off if they are relatively sore. I would rather have more control on my Squat days. I can handle DL's fine with DOMs though. Squats are more tricky for me.0 -
Hi, just popping in to ask a general question instead of starting a new topic
Do any of you take an extra day in between workouts, due to muscle soreness? I have Stage 1/B3 scheduled today and my buns kill from A3, I'm just nervous about doing squats like this, so if I do it tomorrow I still get 1 day's rest before A4 on Monday and it won't mess up my overall schedule.
Push through the DOMS or break an extra day? Thoughts?
I would add that it's easy to get overloaded and wiped out with this program if you don't slow down occasionally. Then I find I need at least 4 or 5 days to reset and rest. It's a heavy one, be good to yourself!0 -
Another vote for resting! You'll get a better workout in if you give your body time to recover. And welcome! :flowerforyou:0
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Thanks for the replies, I'd rather regret resting than not resting and what could result from it, so I'll push my workout back a day.0
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Speaking of resting, It seems that the more I rest this week the MORE my body hurts. My hip went out last night (happens when I wear platforms) and legs feel like jello. What is up with that? No exercise since Wednesday.0
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Ladies, how long did it take for you to see "dramatic" results with this program? I started a month ago, and I'm seeing some results, but nothing I'd consider "dramatic" really, and I haven't lost any net weight, the scale has just been bouncing between the same five pounds for over a year now. I'm pretty certain I've gained muscle, but I'm just feeling that slump, y'know? The one where I know I need to stick with it, but I'm not feeling motivated when I look in the mirror :-/0
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Barefoot: I know what you mean. Somedays I look in the mirror and I am like wow you rock look at those muscles everywhere and other days I'm like ugh still seems like a long way to go especially in my abs. But when I look back at my earlier pictures then I can see the differences. Honestly although I just finished the program (didn't do optional stage 6) I've only been really committed and tracking food since January. I think in another month you will feel like you can really both see and feel a big difference. I felt like for me it really started to pick up in the later stages. maybe I just had to shed some body fat in order to reveal these new muscles and because my arms and legs are thinner than my abs I can see the results there sooner. Anyway, I still say stick with it. I think it will catch you by surprise even if it feels frustratingly slow at times.0
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Barefoot- I totally get where you're coming from. I've been doing this for a month too and not really seeing a lot of difference. I know if you stick with it though you will see results. Think long term.0
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Barefoot, I'm at the end of stage 2 and am starting to see changes now. My shoulders, arms and obliques all look better. The middle of my abs are taking longer to get there, still covered with some podge- but less of it!
I imagine ladies not in maintenance, with more fat to lose might take longer to see results, purely because the muscle definition would be more covered.
I can feel the muscle more than see it, esp in my quads. But I know it's there!
Happy Easter everyone, remember chocolate contains some protein! :drinker:0 -
Lindt chocolate mini chocolate bunnies 4=210 cals. yummy!0
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You're talking my language, samntha....I'm very glad the Easter Bunny came to visit my kids this morning, with little chocolate eggs in tow - TOM showed up and I'm a gonna be gobbling, I tell you that!
birdy - we read "State of Wonder" by Ann Patchett last month. Good read. I think it is "best laid plans" for this month's book (can you tell I haven't started it, yet??)
barefoot - I'm 100% convinced that if you want instantaneous results, NROL4W isn't the right program. However, if you actually want to CHANGE YOUR SHAPE (and not just TALK about changing your shape)....then NROL4W is the right program (for EVERYONE). Give it a year.....you'll be "barefoot Jillian Michaels". But, give it a month, and you're still just gonna be "barefoot". One month = 12 work-outs. 12 work-outs, in my opinion, isn't enough on ANY program to really talk about "results". Can you lift more at the end of month 1 than you could at the beginning?? Then you have made PROGRESS.0 -
Let me try and say it this way:
Maybe it's time to CHANGE the focus to something that is more strength-oriented:
1. If you can squat 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
2. If you can deadlift 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
3. If you can bench press 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning....
Is the program a "success"?? Did you become STRONGER??
Yes. You. Did.
The MAGIC in the program is that, while you are working hard on increasing your weights on all of these lifts and working hard on eating a protein-rich, nutritionally-sound diet, you are going to CHISEL your body fat % down, down, down. THAT's the magic.
(And, the "50 lbs" is just an example....for you, it might be 100 lbs. more at the end than in the beginning....or 200 lbs!!)
Believe that 6-months into this you will have a CHANGED SHAPE. Believe that if you put into it what is asked of you, you WILL get out of it what you seek.0 -
PS - today is a rest day. I believe in rest, rest, rest!!!
(And I believe in starting Stage 4 tomorrow, lol!)0 -
Have fun Beeps and I like that attitude!!0
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Maybe it's time to CHANGE the focus to something that is more strength-oriented:
1. If you can squat 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
2. If you can deadlift 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
3. If you can bench press 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning....
Is the program a "success"?? Did you become STRONGER??
Yes. You. Did.
The MAGIC in the program is that, while you are working hard on increasing your weights on all of these lifts and working hard on eating a protein-rich, nutritionally-sound diet, you are going to CHISEL your body fat % down, down, down. THAT's the magic.
(And, the "50 lbs" is just an example....for you, it might be 100 lbs. more at the end than in the beginning....or 200 lbs!!)
Believe that 6-months into this you will have a CHANGED SHAPE. Believe that if you put into it what is asked of you, you WILL get out of it what you seek.
THIS is the attitude we all need - VERY well said!! Thank you!!0 -
Give it a year.....you'll be "barefoot Jillian Michaels". But, give it a month, and you're still just gonna be "barefoot".
LOL! Yeah, you're right, I think I just need to hear that. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not going to give up. I was feeling blah, but I worked out yesterday, and today I am SO SORE, and I *LOVE* that feeling, because I know I'm making progress when I'm sore. And I'm lifting so much more and generally feeling stronger -- TONS of NSVs!!!
But I am also vain vain vain and I want to look SMOKIN HOT and I get nervous that I'm doing a lot of hard work and in the end I still kind of look like the same old me. It is hard not to compare myself to other women.......... but thanks, I needed that ;-)0 -
Let me try and say it this way:
Maybe it's time to CHANGE the focus to something that is more strength-oriented:
1. If you can squat 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
2. If you can deadlift 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning; and
3. If you can bench press 50 lbs. more at the end of this program, than in the beginning....
Is the program a "success"?? Did you become STRONGER??
Yes. You. Did.
The MAGIC in the program is that, while you are working hard on increasing your weights on all of these lifts and working hard on eating a protein-rich, nutritionally-sound diet, you are going to CHISEL your body fat % down, down, down. THAT's the magic.
(And, the "50 lbs" is just an example....for you, it might be 100 lbs. more at the end than in the beginning....or 200 lbs!!)
Believe that 6-months into this you will have a CHANGED SHAPE. Believe that if you put into it what is asked of you, you WILL get out of it what you seek.
Yes! This! This is what I'm focusing on. Or doing my very best to focus on.0 -
Can I get a few of yall to look at my food diary, please? I feel like I am eating just to be eating for the cals. Today , eh, was not my finest.
I am stressing over the eating. It's hard getting out of that eat less mode.0 -
manic, I hope someone takes you up on your offer to "review your diary" - alas, I'm at work and just don't have the time.....I understand that "eating more" does take some time to adjust to - but, believe me, once you are heavy lifting, your body will be HUNGRY for PROPER FOOD. And, if you start thinking about HOW your body uses fuel, you'll understand why you'll want to continue to fuel it with more and more (nutrition-dense) calories.
barefoot - you're going to get a LOT out of this program. The rest (i.e. what you see in the mirror) is going to be up to you....I would suggest that "comparing yourself to others" will be an endless journey of disappointment, though. There will ALWAYS be women who are prettier than you, smarter than you, more fit than you, etc., etc. So, that's often a REAL quagmire if you're gonna bend that way. Comparing yourself to yourself?? Now, THERE I think you will see an actual EVOLUTION of GREATNESS!!
Woo hoooooooo!!0 -
Can I get a few of yall to look at my food diary, please? I feel like I am eating just to be eating for the cals. Today , eh, was not my finest.
I am stressing over the eating. It's hard getting out of that eat less mode.
I like to focus on nutrient-dense foods with minimal ingredients, mostly made at home, I don't eat out that much. I recently upped my cals and I've been struggling too with "just eating for the cals".
I looked at your diary and overall it isn't bad, your meals look okay, it looks like it's the snacks that are the big culprit. And your protein overall is low. Perhaps instead of grabbing little snacky things between meals, create instead a 4th meal- like a late afternoon mini-meal. Then you plan for it and be prepared like you would any other meal rather than just grabbing whatever strikes you at the moment. This is the strategy I've been working on. I've found that my regular "go-to meals" for breakfast and lunch with only a small snack in the afternoon are leaving me short and then having to fulfill a large cal quota at the end of the day. It hasn't left me feeling very in control of what I'm eating so I want to balance it out more through the day.0 -
barefoot- I have the same fear, doing all this work...only to still look the same. It's happened to me in the past. I'd get mediocre results after a few months- I'd get strong for a while, and just about the time I'd start to actually SEE changes, then I'd get burned out and couldn't keep up the regimen anymore. Not that I'd give up, I just realize now I was undereating and undersleeping for the work I wanted to be doing and not knowing that I should ever take a rest week here and there and my body would resist. My workouts would suffer and my energy for working out would sort of peter out. So then I'd take some time off and start over again. With the exact same results. It is very discouraging.
This time, I have MFP to thank for learning about needing to properly feed and rest my body in addition to working it hard and for the great support I have found here. Always before, I just had to do this on my own and clearly as much as I was doing right, I still had some things wrong.
I'm about 12 weeks in and took some impromptu pics on Saturday. I can see some small changes. In 12 more I hope to see more but I still have that fear.
Beeps- if you ever get tired of your profession, you should look into motivational speaking. I always appreciate your pep talks.0 -
My body isn't "good enough" for motivational speaking, lol!!
(yet!!)
Actually, maybe that's not true....my body looks very good in clothes - I'm told this is what TONS of cardio does for you! And, heavy-lifting is supposed to make me look good naked....THAT'S WHAT I'M AIMING FOR NOW, FOLKS!!
lol
Thanks, jam....I'll accept the compliment. Now, I actually DO have to GO to the GYM and DO my HEAVY-LIFTING for the day!! Because, then I am one work-out closer to MY GOAL.0 -
Beeps - sorry you're having such a rough time at work. Go take it out on the weights at the gym!!! :laugh:
Barefoot - I'm with you on being totally VAIN and wanting to look hot. I'm finally getting to where I look better in my clothes, but I want to look awesome without my clothes!
I'm really trying to focus now on getting into the size of clothing I want to be in (size 6 for now) instead of the weight I want to be. I'd really like to lose another 10 lbs, but if I can weigh 150 and be in a size 6, I'd totally be OK with that! So I'm not going to weigh myself for the rest of the month (hopefully!) 0 -
Beeps - sorry you're having such a rough time at work. Go take it out on the weights at the gym!!! :laugh:
Barefoot - I'm with you on being totally VAIN and wanting to look hot. I'm finally getting to where I look better in my clothes, but I want to look awesome without my clothes!
I'm really trying to focus now on getting into the size of clothing I want to be in (size 6 for now) instead of the weight I want to be. I'd really like to lose another 10 lbs, but if I can weigh 150 and be in a size 6, I'd totally be OK with that! So I'm not going to weigh myself for the rest of the month (hopefully!)
SAME HERE ON ALL POINTS!!!! :bigsmile:0 -
Actually, maybe that's not true....my body looks very good in clothes - I'm told this is what TONS of cardio does for you! And, heavy-lifting is supposed to make me look good naked....THAT'S WHAT I'M AIMING FOR NOW, FOLKS!!0 -
Barefoot - I'm with you on being totally VAIN and wanting to look hot. I'm finally getting to where I look better in my clothes, but I want to look awesome without my clothes!
LOL, yes!
The comparing I do is mostly to my former self. Years ago, I was in great shape, but I really let myself slack when I got preggers four times. I have to remind myself that it took ten years and four pregnancies to wreck my muscle tone, I need to give myself lots of TIME to get back into shape! ;-) I know I will never have a 20-year-old's body again, but I also know that if I apply myself, I will be a totally hot 40-year-old!I'm really trying to focus now on getting into the size of clothing I want to be in (size 6 for now) instead of the weight I want to be. I'd really like to lose another 10 lbs, but if I can weigh 150 and be in a size 6, I'd totally be OK with that! So I'm not going to weigh myself for the rest of the month (hopefully!)
Yes, this is totally me, too. Slowly, the scale is making me freak out less and less. I know that the number on that scale is not as important as the number on the side of that barbell and the number on the tag in my pants! :-D0 -
See how AWESOME you ladies are???? Awesome!! I don't want to step on the scale this month, either....let's see if I can keep THAT promise!!
I started Stage 4 with my personal trainer, today. Ugh. I'm fine with everything, except, OF COURSE, the f*cking push-ups. Ugh. PT thinks my poooooooor performance continues to be as a result of "weak core" (not "weak chest/shoulders") and so, for this Stage, he wants me to go BACK to the 45 degree bench (boo hoo hoooooo!!!!) and just do them as FAST as I possible can. The core muscles (all the little stabilizing ones) will be FORCED to 'wake up' and maybe that will help me out, faster, in the long run.
I can't argue with his logic. And, I also can't argue that whatever I've been doing, thus far, isn't working. (I can only do a WHOPPING "four on the floor" - gack, after 3 MONTHS of this??)
Oh, and I lied because the f*cking push-ups are NOT my only "poor performance" item from this Stage. Alas, I didn't do the bent over DB rows in Stage 2 (because my balance SUCKED!). I'm determined to get them in this time and, yes, without surprise, my BALANCE STILL SUCKS!! So, there I am, dancing on one-foot all over the place while I'm trying to row sissy 12 lb. DB. Gawd, I didn't even feel like "Barbie" - I felt like Barbie's weak and unbalanced cousin, Boof-bie.0 -
Beeps- I'm sorry you had a rough day at the gym. :-(
I'm nervous. So far I have been doing Stage 1 at home. Today I signed up for a 3 week trial membership at the gym. I also have an appt with a trainer tomorrow. I told him what I was doing, and wanted to stick with it and the lifting. I'm just nervous in general. I am not new to gyms in general, but definitely new to the weight area. I didn't even know what a smith machine was until a few weeks ago.
Any advice? I feel out of place in that area.0
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