Why am I so turned off by an educated woman?
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Better? I thought you were pretty keen on her (ie. she was good enough by your criteria) until she shared her education level with you. Did I miss something? What is better in this case? Simply that she doesn't have a higher degree than you?**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good. I think we both dodged a bullet here.
She hasn't emailed in 3 days - after you asked her a question? If not... have you been emailing her in that time without a response? Otherwise, it could be that she thinks the ball is in your court if she's still looking at your profile.
All good points.
To my understanding she just mentioned she had a PHd, she wasn't bragging or whatnot. So why can you do better? And was the ball in her court and she never responded? Or did you decide to wait for her to contact you?
And just wondering whatever happened with your older Latina neighbor you were digging on?0 -
**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good. I think we both dodged a bullet here.
Step away from the computer/smartphone, find ladies all around you. Think that every woman who you approach would be lucky to be with you.0 -
I agree with you that educated women (and Ph.D. in particular) are real catches. The other (non educated) women are stupid, idiotic and useless, and are definitely not catches.Once they Ph.D. gets wind of your attitudes towards educated women, i don't think it will be an issue for you anymore. She sounds like a real catch, and that she could do much better than someone that holds her intelligence and achievements against her. JMHO
If you disagree, then why is this woman in particular a "real catch" then? Because she likes Indian food and has a lot in common with Mike? Or is it because every woman is a catch?
EDIT: I don't really care about the answer to be honest... I know that this was just meant as a low blow to Mike.0 -
**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
It's for the paper she's writing about you. Just check out Psychology Today in 3 months...
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**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
It's for the paper she's writing about you. Just check out Psychology Today in 3 months...
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You're probably right. LOL!
I wasn't ever so keen on her because we've never even met in person. We've exchanged a handful of e-mails and that was really it. I would have still met her and given her a fair shot. The PhD was never an absolute deal breaker or anything like that.0 -
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good.
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. That was a blatant insult to every educated woman in this thread, but I'm sure you knew that.
Little oversensitive, aren't we?
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Better? I thought you were pretty keen on her (ie. she was good enough by your criteria) until she shared her education level with you. Did I miss something? What is better in this case? Simply that she doesn't have a higher degree than you?**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good. I think we both dodged a bullet here.
She hasn't emailed in 3 days - after you asked her a question? If not... have you been emailing her in that time without a response? Otherwise, it could be that she thinks the ball is in your court if she's still looking at your profile.
Nope, the ball is definitely in her court. She told me about her PhD in Psychology and I asked her a few questions about it and what she wants to do with her degree. No response after that.0 -
And just wondering whatever happened with your older Latina neighbor you were digging on?
She started dating someone new. Someone a bit more age appropriate. I still talk to her every week or so, we remain good friends.0 -
I agree with you that educated women (and Ph.D. in particular) are real catches. The other (non educated) women are stupid, idiotic and useless, and are definitely not catches.Once they Ph.D. gets wind of your attitudes towards educated women, i don't think it will be an issue for you anymore. She sounds like a real catch, and that she could do much better than someone that holds her intelligence and achievements against her. JMHO
If you disagree, then why is this woman in particular a "real catch" then? Because she likes Indian food and has a lot in common with Mike? Or is it because every woman is a catch?
EDIT: I don't really care about the answer to be honest... I know that this was just meant as a low blow to Mike.
LOL I have to think this is partially self-confidence.... I think everytime I've ever broken up with a guy or he has poofed on me I've said I know I can do better then him. Self-protection people. Besides they hadnt met yet so she was a good match on paper(or in this case internet lol) we all know that sometimes that doesnt translate to RL very well0 -
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good.
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. That was a blatant insult to every educated woman in this thread, but I'm sure you knew that.
Little oversensitive, aren't we?
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I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.0
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I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.
If that's the vibe you got I am seriously disappointed in your observational skills.
But at least you're still cute! :smooched:0 -
I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.
If that's the vibe you got I am seriously disappointed in your observational skills.
But at least you're still cute! :smooched:
Dang! And here I thought I was one of the great observers of our time.0 -
I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.
If that's the vibe you got I am seriously disappointed in your observational skills.
But at least you're still cute! :smooched:
Dang! And here I thought I was one of the great observers of our time.
I'm sure if the target was a sweet pair of sweater puppies you'd be top tier :laugh:0 -
I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.
Spot on Poncho
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I have to agree with this too. In my experience in dating educated women or women that made more money than me, they always thought they were the s**t because of how educated they were or how much money they made, when in reality I couldn't care less about it. How about you educate yourself to make me a friggin sammich?I think Mike wins this thread, solely based on the fact that you gals could not handle having your education insulted.... IMO the "how dare you, I'm an educated women" attitude is why he and all the guys that agreed were turned off in the first place.
Spot on Poncho
Just kidding ladies :flowerforyou: , but in reality most guys are still a bit old fashioned and care less about education and more about the other stuff.0 -
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I'm pretty sure I can speak for all the women on this board that we didn't get degrees to attract a man. Now, I am not one of the ones that have an advanced degree but I think I'd be royally pissed if my boyfriend (who only has a high school education and a ton of work experience) wouldn't date because I went to and completed undergrad. Maybe men don't perceive undergrad degrees to make women "stuck up" and maybe they don't. But I have a lot of friends with Masters (I guess it's the thing to do, I missed that boat) and they are just as down to earth about their living as I am. Now, the thing I have noticed about my friends with advanced degrees is they feel the guy they are dating should have an advanced degree as well, where as I don't feel that it makes you a "better man".
Mike, I'm sorry she poofed. I would have like to have known what she was like (in your opinion) in person. But like you said, now you can concentrate your efforts into finding someone better fit for you.
And Roadie - I make a mean sammich...0 -
Thanks for this. It made my day - Damn straight...0 -
And this is why I had to install a zip line going straight to my kitchen for the women. :glasses:0 -
Just kidding ladies :flowerforyou: , but in reality most guys are still a bit old fashioned and care less about education and more about the other stuff.
I don't have a problem if having an education unimportant. I am baffled that there are actually guys that specifically DO NOT WANT women to have college degrees because they find it unattractive. There are a lot of very smart people that didn't get that piece of paper and it's not a requirement of mine as long as they are working in a field they love, have a stable job and can support themselves. So to take something that should either be a positive or a non-issue and then go completely the opposite... it's so foreign.0 -
She sounds like a flake then. Most likely one of those people drawn to Psychology because of her own issues.
Better? I thought you were pretty keen on her (ie. she was good enough by your criteria) until she shared her education level with you. Did I miss something? What is better in this case? Simply that she doesn't have a higher degree than you?**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good. I think we both dodged a bullet here.
She hasn't emailed in 3 days - after you asked her a question? If not... have you been emailing her in that time without a response? Otherwise, it could be that she thinks the ball is in your court if she's still looking at your profile.
Nope, the ball is definitely in her court. She told me about her PhD in Psychology and I asked her a few questions about it and what she wants to do with her degree. No response after that.
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She sounds like a flake then. Most likely one of those people drawn to Psychology because of her own issues.
Better? I thought you were pretty keen on her (ie. she was good enough by your criteria) until she shared her education level with you. Did I miss something? What is better in this case? Simply that she doesn't have a higher degree than you?**Update**
Well, Ms. PhD poofed on me. She hasn't e-mailed me in 3 days. Oddly enough, she's been mirin' my online profile. She's checked it out 3 times this past weekend.
Anyway, I know I can do much better, so it's all good. I think we both dodged a bullet here.
She hasn't emailed in 3 days - after you asked her a question? If not... have you been emailing her in that time without a response? Otherwise, it could be that she thinks the ball is in your court if she's still looking at your profile.
Nope, the ball is definitely in her court. She told me about her PhD in Psychology and I asked her a few questions about it and what she wants to do with her degree. No response after that.
She's a flake because she poofed after 2-3 emails to some stranger? Damn. I am a massive flake. Hell, there are some guys I don't even bother to respond to.0 -
Quick question for y'all...that I hoped this discussion would answer but didn't really address... do you think it's the education that really turns men off? Or is it the preconceived notion that if a woman has an education she must be a certain (i.e. boring, nagging, never happy) type?
In Mike's case (correct me if I'm wrong) it seemed to me that the turnoff was because he knew she'd be like other educated women who ram their education and "I'm so great" down everyone's throats. I wonder if she hadn't mentioned her degree (and hadn't poofed) would they have gone out and had fun.
Men, have you ever had an amazing fun date and then been surprised later when you found out her career or education?0 -
Quick question for y'all...that I hoped this discussion would answer but didn't really address... do you think it's the education that really turns men off? Or is it the preconceived notion that if a woman has an education she must be a certain (i.e. boring, nagging, never happy) type?
In Mike's case (correct me if I'm wrong) it seemed to me that the turnoff was because he knew she'd be like other educated women who ram their education and "I'm so great" down everyone's throats. I wonder if she hadn't mentioned her degree (and hadn't poofed) would they have gone out and had fun.
Men, have you ever had an amazing fun date and then been surprised later when you found out her career or education?
I think it's the stereotype of a woman with a high powered job or an education. I honestly think that if Mike and Ms. Psychology were to actually go out, Mike would have a different opinion of her. And if he didn't (and she was actually like the stereotype) we need to blame these kind of women for giving smart woman a bad rap...LOL0 -
Quick question for y'all...that I hoped this discussion would answer but didn't really address... do you think it's the education that really turns men off? Or is it the preconceived notion that if a woman has an education she must be a certain (i.e. boring, nagging, never happy) type?
In Mike's case (correct me if I'm wrong) it seemed to me that the turnoff was because he knew she'd be like other educated women who ram their education and "I'm so great" down everyone's throats. I wonder if she hadn't mentioned her degree (and hadn't poofed) would they have gone out and had fun.
Men, have you ever had an amazing fun date and then been surprised later when you found out her career or education?
I actually still legitimately believe that Mike is looking for a weak, needy woman to assert himself over and knows that it isn't very common in people who think enough of themselves to pursue higher education.
Not saying that people don't go that route aren't also capable of being strong and confident.0 -
I honestly think that if Mike and Ms. Psychology were to actually go out, Mike would have a different opinion of her. And if he didn't (and she was actually like the stereotype) we need to blame these kind of women for giving smart woman a bad rap...LOL
This is a very likely scenario.
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Yeah I think it's weird too. I personally couldn't care less about a woman's level of education, but when she needs to make it known within 10 minutes of meeting me that she has a PHD in psychology it's a bit of a turn off (unless I ask). But yeah generally as long as they have a decent job that they like and have some direction in life, education doesn't matter much.Just kidding ladies :flowerforyou: , but in reality most guys are still a bit old fashioned and care less about education and more about the other stuff.
I don't have a problem if having an education unimportant. I am baffled that there are actually guys that specifically DO NOT WANT women to have college degrees because they find it unattractive. There are a lot of very smart people that didn't get that piece of paper and it's not a requirement of mine as long as they are working in a field they love, have a stable job and can support themselves. So to take something that should either be a positive or a non-issue and then go completely the opposite... it's so foreign.0 -
Quick question for y'all...that I hoped this discussion would answer but didn't really address... do you think it's the education that really turns men off? Or is it the preconceived notion that if a woman has an education she must be a certain (i.e. boring, nagging, never happy) type?
In Mike's case (correct me if I'm wrong) it seemed to me that the turnoff was because he knew she'd be like other educated women who ram their education and "I'm so great" down everyone's throats. I wonder if she hadn't mentioned her degree (and hadn't poofed) would they have gone out and had fun.
Men, have you ever had an amazing fun date and then been surprised later when you found out her career or education?
To answer question #1, I think it's the preconceived notion, but based on experience. Obviously not all women with higher education are this way, but the ones I've come across are, and more than one guy has stated this. I'm all for women and education but I don't think an education should make the women.
Queston #2, no I haven't.0 -
I actually still legitimately believe that Mike is looking for a weak, needy woman to assert himself over and knows that it isn't very common in people who think enough of themselves to pursue higher education.
I do hope Mike isn't that type...that he's just looking for a different type of "look" and more of a party spirit than you'll often find in a stereotypical PhD. It takes all kinds to make a world.when she needs to make it known within 10 minutes of meeting me that she has a PHD in psychology it's a bit of a turn off (unless I ask)
As to Roadie's point, I can certainly see this- especially with women who feel they have something to prove or don't want to waste 3-4 dates getting to know a guy only to have him poof when he learns of her degree (my masters degree is trick #2 for running guys away 99% effective).
I do everything I can to try avoiding the career and education discussion. I honestly find that most guys don't care WHAT I do or WHAT degree I have. In fact, when guys ask what I do, I tell them "I do admin work," and they usually don't probe further. It always cracks me up when I'm on date 2-3 and they are shocked to find out what I do and what degrees I have. BB did probe further, and didn't run away. And now I actually have the opposite problem. He's TOO proud of what I do.0
