BE Support Group Conversation Thread - 2013

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  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Hello everyone!

    I just had to share a successful day yesterday. 1st of all I took off for my Passover celebration last night and I did not binge during the day and was at home until the evening. Then I went out to dinner around 8:30 and I ate very well and only ate about a 3rd of my meal as I had pre-planned before going.

    And the 3rd most important thing I did I am so proud of, is I brought my doggie bag home and I did not leave it in my car as I usually do so I don't eat the rest of the food. I put it in the refrig and had another 3rd for breakfast and will eat the rest of it for dinner or lunch and have a salad or something for my 3rd meal.

    I am off work again today and I am going to get thru this day without binging. I have to be out and about today and so far no urges to binge.

    Stay strong Peeps and take it one day at a time......

    Awesome success story! I love it when the pre-planning actually works! Thanks for sharing.
    Thanks so much and I did not need the salad because I was not hungry so I skipped it......
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    "If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results." -- Jack Dixon
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    carly_am, WELCOME!!! I have not taken that medicine so I cannot help. I hope it works for you. I would have a hard time with 3 meals too. But everyone is different. Some people like no snacking and getting a nice big meal in each time they eat. I would worry about a 50 day no binge. Mostly because some binge eaters (myself included) once we have one bad day it is hard to stop. So a 50 day challenge would be so hard I might get discouraged and give up.

    Mollie1037, Good job Mollie!! That is so awesome you were able to eat a smaller portion. At restaurants that can be tricky for me sometimes I want to eat everything and then some.
    Nice quotes too!! I love inspirational quotes!
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    The last few days have been good. My therapy sessions are really helping. He also likes the idea of me keeping track of the binges and posting here with all of you. He says it is a good way to keep track of the good days! YEAH

    However, I think my anxiety medicine is giving me horrible heartburn. I will give it some time and see if it could be something else. I hope it goes away so I can finally have some relief from my anxiety while I work on coping with it in therapy.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    @Karen,
    I am so glad your therphy sessions are working out. I may need to schedule a few myself soon. Keep up the good work and I am so glad you stated that our daily challenge is to keep track of the GOOD days. It is so important to think of it that way vs keeping track of BINGE days. Keep up the good work!! You are doing great!!! And thanks for sharing too because many shy away from getting help from a therpist when they really can help us.
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    He also likes the idea of me keeping track of the binges and posting here with all of you. He says it is a good way to keep track of the good days! YEAH

    I totally agree! And that is why I continue to keep track on the binge thread even if I'm struggling. I have a catastrophic attitude and can easily coerce myself into thinking the whole month was bad even though the numbers don't lie. So for me, it is a positive thing to keep track of the binges because it forces me to realize the good days!

    Diane
  • kge0891
    kge0891 Posts: 276 Member
    Ugh I'm so stressed. I know it's going to happen, I feel like my cravings are overpowering me and I'm minutes away from eating everything in site... I'm trying to figure out my trigger right now, and I have no clue. I even had a NSV today, and am 11 days binge free but I feel it is all about to end right now. Ugh this is so frustrating...
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    Thanks everyone!! I really feel like therapy is essential for me this time. I don't want to lose all this weight then gain it all back again. So I know for me therapy is important. I am learning some coping too. I tend to judge myself so badly when I would never treat someone else that way. I would see someone post a binge and would respond to them about their good days but for myself I focused on the binge days. How silly I am so hard on myself!

    I hope people talking about therpay will get others to realize it is a good thing. Too many stigmas with therapy. :) I think that should change. I feel so good after just a few weeks!


    kge0891
    I hope you are okay!!I posted a message on your page.

    Sometimes the NSV's (or even when I lose on the scale) can cause a binge. it is like I feel I do not deserve the good thing happening to me and I sabatoge it. I can't handle the good or the bad. I am learning to change it.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Glad therapy is going well for you, Karen, it can be helpful to have someone to talk ideas with.
    Wonderful success, Mollie, I am impressed. When I eat out, I tend to just want to eat what I find tastiest, regardless of calories and the like, maybe because I only really eat out when I go to my mum's for a visit and tend to be quite strict with my meals at home.

    I have had a bad few days, Wednesday I went over 5000 calories due to my mother sending me her usual box of Easter chocolate. Rather than leaving it all wrapped up and going to bed, I went all out and got through most of it before bed. Very bad. I think the fact I had eaten sugary yoghurts earlier in the evening did not help. Frustrating, I just want to be normal, and be able to have food around my kitchen, knowing I am safe with it, and being able to just have a bit here and there.

    Back on track today with HIIT running, some walking and a box-fit class. Got another fitbit to see what I am burning, or an estimate and I have probably been burning more than I thought because I tend to walk around my apartment a lot in the evening, doing various things. Nevertheless, I am worried I will not only not lose any weight before next weigh in, but gain. It is a lot of calories to try and offset, since it was not just a one off. Always seems to happen after a period of intense workouts and cleanish eating, as if my body demands a refeed. My energy levels are back up again anyway, they had been quite low. And I noticed when I put on my new workout gear, including a sleeveless top, that I have pretty defined arms and can see my chest bones so I suppose I should not panic too much.

    Boxfit is amazing. I love it. The trainer is an amateur boxer, and very precise in his teaching, have to get the leg work right and the hip movement and fits back to chin between punches.
  • tsikkz
    tsikkz Posts: 404 Member
    @kge

    I really hope you're okay, even if you did binge its important to not give up! That's so amazing and inspiring that you are in medical school, which really speaks for your character to go through all that to help other people.

    I think when we convince ourselves that a binge is coming, we feel so weak and powerless over it, but I think looking at accomplishments to re-empower us give us the strength to fight back and carry on.

    Sometimes the NSV's (or even when I lose on the scale) can cause a binge. it is like I feel I do not deserve the good thing happening to me and I sabatoge it. I can't handle the good or the bad. I am learning to change it.

    I totally agree! I find I almost give myself permission to begin a binge when I am lower in weight.. it seems every week I do so well, then Saturday comes along and I spend the weekend binging, only to start on Monday where I was the previous week. Its like a giant step back, baby steps forward then another giant step back that keeps me at the same place.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Sometimes the NSV's (or even when I lose on the scale) can cause a binge. it is like I feel I do not deserve the good thing happening to me and I sabatoge it. I can't handle the good or the bad. I am learning to change it.

    I totally agree! I find I almost give myself permission to begin a binge when I am lower in weight.. it seems every week I do so well, then Saturday comes along and I spend the weekend binging, only to start on Monday where I was the previous week. Its like a giant step back, baby steps forward then another giant step back that keeps me at the same place.
    I totally agree with both of these statements and I have learned as long as I do the weekend binges I will not lose weight either. Why? Because 2 days of binges wipes out 5 days of normal eating for sure. That is why I am working hard to manage the weekend binges. This has been my experience.
  • tsikkz
    tsikkz Posts: 404 Member
    Any survival tips for weekend binges? I do my long runs for marathon training and I always binge afterwards it sucks
  • Chibea
    Chibea Posts: 363 Member
    Hi everyone :) Welcome Carly!

    Two topics discussed above caught my attention:
    One: Control. I am one of the people who react to too much control with mindless rebellion. It's true in my personal life and definitely in my eating. In fact, my success since I started on MFP is probably because of the freedom I have to eat anything I want as long as I stay within my calorie limit and even if I don't stay within, I get to keep on trying. It's perfect for me. I really binge like crazy every time I try to plan ahead by making meals or pre logging my food. As soon as I say "no" to myself, I am off proving that I will do whatever I want.. just like a child.
    Two: Success leads to a binge. So very true for me, too! My last big success was the Valentine's Day challenge and once I finished that, I was binging off and on for weeks! I really don't know what to do about this, because success is both my goal and my downfall....Slow and steady is better than fast and inconsistent, I suppose, so I may need to just stay at losing one pound per week. I don't get really excited and feel any great satisfaction if i only lose a pound - I have a lot to lose and many other people on MFP have lost a lot more than that every week! But, it's some how unsettling to my healthy state of mind. if I lose too much. :ohwell:
  • kzslucas
    kzslucas Posts: 6
    Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. Been using MFP on and off for a year. I've been trying to find a support group for even longer than that......having had much luck. I'm in a really "dark" place right now emotionally.....

    Don't want to live some days.....never succeed at anything....need help.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. Been using MFP on and off for a year. I've been trying to find a support group for even longer than that......having had much luck. I'm in a really "dark" place right now emotionally.....

    Don't want to live some days.....never succeed at anything....need help.

    Welcome to the group, I can relate, being in a pretty dark place myself right now, and certainly having experienced the loss of will to live many times since I was very young. Keep fighting, post here, and feel free to add me and message me if you want some support and a listening ear.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Any survival tips for weekend binges? I do my long runs for marathon training and I always binge afterwards it sucks

    My immediate thought is you are simply not eating enough to fuel your body for your runs. That is quite intense training and if you are under nourishing your body in any way, it will drive you to eat. I get the same thing if I do a long exercise session or cycle ride, and have not been eating enough or don't eat something soon after finishing.
  • tsikkz
    tsikkz Posts: 404 Member
    Any survival tips for weekend binges? I do my long runs for marathon training and I always binge afterwards it sucks

    My immediate thought is you are simply not eating enough to fuel your body for your runs. That is quite intense training and if you are under nourishing your body in any way, it will drive you to eat. I get the same thing if I do a long exercise session or cycle ride, and have not been eating enough or don't eat something soon after finishing.

    I'm not sure. I do believe I fuel adequately I just think the binging is more a "reward" to myself as opposed to a biochemical need. However, I was listening to a Dr Rob podcast and he was saying most endurance cardio triggers carbohydrate cravings to replenish the glycogen you used during exercise, and I definitely crave carbs.. oh boy do I crave carbs..

    I guess the craving is biochemical, but the granting myself twelve bowls of raisin bran to reward myself is the binge part that I need to work on... sigh

    @21007 (I wish I knew your name!)
    we have all been there. I sent you a friend request I hope you'll accept.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Any survival tips for weekend binges? I do my long runs for marathon training and I always binge afterwards it sucks

    My immediate thought is you are simply not eating enough to fuel your body for your runs. That is quite intense training and if you are under nourishing your body in any way, it will drive you to eat. I get the same thing if I do a long exercise session or cycle ride, and have not been eating enough or don't eat something soon after finishing.

    I'm not sure. I do believe I fuel adequately I just think the binging is more a "reward" to myself as opposed to a biochemical need. However, I was listening to a Dr Rob podcast and he was saying most endurance cardio triggers carbohydrate cravings to replenish the glycogen you used during exercise, and I definitely crave carbs.. oh boy do I crave carbs..

    I guess the craving is biochemical, but the granting myself twelve bowls of raisin bran to reward myself is the binge part that I need to work on... sigh

    @21007 (I wish I knew your name!)
    we have all been there. I sent you a friend request I hope you'll accept.

    I find having a carton of alpro chocolate soya milk pretty soon after does the trick and calms things enough to remain in control. Any chocolate milk would probably do. Or I go and have a soya latte.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    I have had a few good days in a row! I also was able to exercise outside since it was in the 50’s for a few days. Fresh air and sunshine do so much to improve my mood!! Plus, those workouts were much harder and intense. The wind, the pavement, hills etc… all get a good workout in. I rode my bike and ran. Yesterday the whole family went hiking at a nearby state park. We were muddy and tired but had so much fun. It was 2 and 1/2 hours of hills, steps etc. What a workout!
    We went out to eat twice over the weekend. Which is very rare for us! I did not binge those days! For some reason I might binge when I get home. Especially if I feel deprived because I had a small meal at the restaurant. However both places I was able to get a good sized meal. Yesterday I even ate a more fattening meal because I had the calories for the day. I did skip the breads though and that lowered the calories. It felt good to have that meal and not go home and eat till I was sick (sometimes a less healthy meal makes me crave bad foods)


    Graelwyn75, my Mom also sends crappy foods at holidays to me. It drives me nuts cause she knows I do not want to eat that. I almost think my Mom is doing it on purpose. (long story she is a rather horrible Mom) However I bet yours is just trying to be nice. Maybe explain you cannot have so much candy in the house? She may not realize what she did. Good job getting back on track!!!

    tsikkz, I think I take lots of steps back. I like how you said that!! Also the weekend binges are so hard!! Maybe before your runs you can tray a protein snack? Sometimes with intense exercise I can be hungry afterwards. Are you starving after the run? Maybe right away eat something healthy that has protein. It may help you feel satisfied.

    Mollie1037, I agree Mollie, I am sick of wiping out the good days with binges. It frustrates me so much.


    Chibea, I love your insight. So smart!! I am so glad I am not the only one that has binges from success! I feel so much better that others understand what I mean!!


    I hope everyone is doing well!! Remember if you need help reach out to someone. I am sure all of us here would be happy to help!!! I know I would.

    Karen
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    I just want to be normal, and be able to have food around my kitchen, knowing I am safe with it, and being able to just have a bit here and there.

    Agreed!
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    My goal for April is to fill out my diary each and every day. Please help hold me accountable for this. I did this last year May - Nov every day and it made a huge difference. I have to get back at it. Logging my food helps me make better decisions and helps me focus on my binge behavior.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    You can do it Diane!! I am going to join you with the logging everything every day in April! Lets do it!! Weekends is when I flounder on the logging and binges too.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    My goal is to allow myself a meal I might normally not have, if I feel the urge to binge creeping up, as having a less than stellar meal, would be better than ending up in an all out binge. Also want to try and ensure I get to the gym 5 days a week at least, and lose 2-3 Ibs minimum this month. Also trying to keep refined sugar foods to one day a week, no more.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    I started off April Bad. I binged last night. I was super tired and stressed. That might be the trigger. Oh well. I will focus on the postive It had been many days since my last binge.


    I also am still volunteering in a school once a week. Today I go there. It is tough cause they interviewed me for a position and I did not get it. Kind of stressful going to volunteer there now that they did not hire me.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    My goal is to allow myself a meal I might normally not have, if I feel the urge to binge creeping up, as having a less than stellar meal, would be better than ending up in an all out binge. Also want to try and ensure I get to the gym 5 days a week at least, and lose 2-3 Ibs minimum this month. Also trying to keep refined sugar foods to one day a week, no more.
    Sounds good Kate!
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    I started off April Bad. I binged last night. I was super tired and stressed. That might be the trigger. Oh well. I will focus on the postive It had been many days since my last binge.
    Good attitude Karen!
    I also am still volunteering in a school once a week. Today I go there. It is tough cause they interviewed me for a position and I did not get it. Kind of stressful going to volunteer there now that they did not hire me.
    So if this is stressing you out, why are you continuing to go? Are you getting any good benefits out of it. If you are then think of the positive benefits and don't harp on that they did not hire you.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    Thanks Mollie!

    It is stressful going there. However I LOVE the kids. I enjoy working with them, I will complete the year and hope that the teachers give me nice recomendation letters. That will help. The principal did say she wanted to keep me in mind for future positions. (She may have just said that to be nice).

    Sometimes the day after a binge is so hard. I am tired again and busy. I will be very careful tonight!
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    My goal is to allow myself a meal I might normally not have, if I feel the urge to binge creeping up, as having a less than stellar meal, would be better than ending up in an all out binge. Also want to try and ensure I get to the gym 5 days a week at least, and lose 2-3 Ibs minimum this month. Also trying to keep refined sugar foods to one day a week, no more.

    Great plan!! I never thought of a different meal to help keep away a binge. Let us know if it works for you.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    My goal is to allow myself a meal I might normally not have, if I feel the urge to binge creeping up, as having a less than stellar meal, would be better than ending up in an all out binge. Also want to try and ensure I get to the gym 5 days a week at least, and lose 2-3 Ibs minimum this month. Also trying to keep refined sugar foods to one day a week, no more.

    Great plan!! I never thought of a different meal to help keep away a binge. Let us know if it works for you.

    Yes, the problem with me is when I am on track, I tend to get very rigid about what I eat, having the same foods every evening etc, and I become almost paranoid about having anything that is not very basic. So, I might fancy a specific microwave meal (some of the ones here in the Uk are actually not bad on ingredients) or I might fancy a large baked potato with something, but I will be so caught up in feeling I must have a certain amount of protein, and must have my big serving of veggies, and that it must be lean fish, or chicken, or beans, that I won't allow myself. The only times I have a meal out are when I am in London with my mum because she tends to always eat out with guests, or when I have been on a bad binge and have stopped caring. Never, while on track, do I think, oh hey, I might go and have breakfast out.... or lunch out. I am very all or nothing, one extreme or the other. In that sense, I think mfp has done me a disservice as I got by quite well for some years, having baked potatoes lots of times, having my microwave bean chilli, or my quorn burgers and beans, and my bags of chocolate buttons and mcflurries, and I felt well on it. Granted, I probably was not very fit at the time, as I only did some walking, but I was sure as heck happier than I am now with my constant food analysis. I also did not binge. Sure, I sometimes had a big bag of chocolate, but I did not binge. That started when I joined mfp.
  • LOVEsummer
    LOVEsummer Posts: 304 Member
    I'm new, and I'm really scared. I've been getting progressively worse with my bingeing over the past 6 months. To the point where it's 1-2x a week and 4000+ calorie days. I don't know what to do or how to control my impulses and I'm really scared.
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