BE Support Group Conversation Thread - 2013

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  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    Candice, Welcome!! People that do not have a Binge eating problem don’t understand. I agree with the books. I read one by Gennen Roth. There is a book list here on this group too.

    MadDogManor, I hate it when people want me to try a bite of something. I know what foods trigger me and I like to stay away from them. (at least until I get a better handle on my BE problem)

    Graelwyn75, I too have lung issues. I have Sarcoidosis which causes tumors to grow. Mine are in my lungs and the lymph nodes in my lungs. SO sometimes I have breathing trouble. Like asthma. I hope your COPD is well managed. HUGS

    tsikkz, you are very fit and thin.

    I had a good day yesterday. I am taking it one day at a time. I almost tried to go to a residential facility. I have checked out some more books on BE and will read and learn all I can while working on my anxiety and BE. I am working the rest of the week in Special Education. These will be very loving but low functioning students. It will be stressful but I love teaching these kids.

    I will beat this! I am finding my triggers and trying to work through them. I might even start keeping a diary of the triggers with each binge episode. I know I will never reach my goal with this binge eating.
  • Hi Twistedheart and Candycane!

    I've not been a part of the group for long, but it has really helped me tremendously. Just knowing you are not alone or that you aren't the only failure out there that can't have a normal relationship with food is great. We aren't failures at all and we are not alone.

    I'd start the challenge today just to be accountable to yourself. Feeling the success of making it through one day without a binge is awesome...and if you do binge you can look forward to maybe logging a win tomorrow. It's really helped me with my all or nothing mentality.

    Heather :)

    for sure, and I feel like stopping a running binge is quite an accomplishment! But I never feel like a failure, Neither should anyone else. It has to stay in perspective, this is one area of your life, that you don't do 100% well on 100% of the time, it doesn't define 'who you are'. If you were bingeing everyday of the week, it would soon become a serious health issue. If you are binging twice a week, then you are also practicing some control for most of that week. Give yourself the due respect.

    I picked up some books from the library yesterday, but should really do my homework cause this is my last week of classes!!! woo-hoo
  • Tsikkz Dayum! you are just noticing that you are hot? Good for you!
  • Hello to everyone struggling with this disease here. I really do think its a disease; a disease that has not been talked up in the news, Some people without the disease find it hard to understand, just like I might find it difficult to understand how asthmatics or people with COPD feel ( luckily I can breathe easily, unlike these folks ). That's just an example. I wish the people around me understood how I feel towards something as "simple" as food. "Just don't eat it" means absolutely nothing to me. "Here, try this bite" can lead to days worth of binging. I don't like being scared of food. I'm really trying to log accurately and be aware of the amount of food I'm eating, and lately I've begun obsessing about food even more. I'm always hungry now, and always thinking about eating. I'm trying to get more protein, but I'm not a big meat eater. I'm trying to fill up on veggies and water, but come on, lets be real - i love junky processed food! It's taken me 40- something years to develop these horrible eating habits, and it will take more than a few months of change to undo the damage. I do like to pre log my food when possible, because it seems to take away the uncertainty of "what is there to eat", which leads me to prowl the kitchen in search of food, any food. I don't really know the point of this post, I just needed to vent and whine a bit, I guess. Thanks for reading :-)

    I think this is a safe place to whine, my sister likes to bring food over and leave it here in the fridge so she can eat it next time she's here, especially chocolate. Then she complains when it is not here the next time she comes over. I tell her...if you leave it here, it's as good as gone' she doesn't understand how I can't leave it there.

    I don't eat meat, but I eat a Gardein 'chicken' breast in the morning for breakfast , 23 grams of protein, tastes good, satisfies me. And I really think it helps me be less hungry later in the day.
  • LOVEsummer
    LOVEsummer Posts: 304 Member
    I've just joined about a week ago, and I'm loving this group. I agree that the threads can get a little depressing as we all struggle through our BED, but I just want to say I am inspired by how strong we all are, and how hard we are fighting.

    I'm working really hard to understand my feelings about food. I run a lot, and so when I have a longer run like today, I feel like I "need" to eat more. I get stressed about bonking on my runs, and I know I need to just listen to my body more and realize I can always get food.

    I'm reading a book called Crave by Cynthia Bulik that's been super helpful.

    We kick *kitten* :) It's a battle, but we're fighting, which is a beautiful thing to see.

    My BED has only in the last 6 months gotten bad again, and luckily I haven't gained much weight, maybe 5lbs. I obsessively exercise until I burn off the calories... which isn't good, but eventually I'd like to be working out a ton (because I love it) and not bingeing, so I can lose the weight I've gained, and really be proud of my body AND actions.
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    Hi everyone,

    Just wanted to check in. I'm having a successful month. I'm meeting my goal of filling out my diary every day no matter what. I've had 2 or 3 questionable eating days and only one actual binge in April. I really enjoy the thread where we check in every day. It helps hold me accountable. It helps remind me each day is a new day. It also helps put things into perspective so that I can't talk myself into thinking I'm doing worse than I actually am. Also, restriction is not the answer for my weight loss goals. Re-learning how to eat like a healthy person is the answer. Luckily behavior is learned and it can be unlearned too. I've been working very hard these past 3+ years on changing my behavior. I don't want to binge, I don't want to restrict, I just want to eat "normally".

    Thank you to all who post here. Thank you for being here. It really helps to know you're not alone. This type of behavior isn't as uncommon as I once thought it was. That is comforting because I think very highly of you even though you portray this behavior - so why should I think less of myself? That's not fair, right?

    Diane
  • tsikkz
    tsikkz Posts: 404 Member
    Cynthia who wrote crave also has a really informative podcast that isn't too long to listen to, I think she has two episodes up that are around 10 mins long each and packed with useful information. Good to listen to while you go for a walk! *nudge nudge*
    search "crave the podcast" in itunes

    Thank you to those for their kind words regarding my appearance. I have struggled with my weight my whole life and I still battle myself in the mirror, which was one of the reasons I joined this group, I thought once I got thin my terrible relationship with food would end, but it didn't.

    I don't want to put people down for whining about having this affliction, I just hate the acceptance of it as something that cannot be controlled. I hope that makes sense. It can be managed and you can reach your goals. I am proof of that, and so are many of the other inspiring successes in this thread.

    I'm sorry it sounded a bit mean, but I was feeling very passionate when I wrote it :smile:
  • mrswaite08
    mrswaite08 Posts: 93 Member
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  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    I've just joined about a week ago, and I'm loving this group. I agree that the threads can get a little depressing as we all struggle through our BED, but I just want to say I am inspired by how strong we all are, and how hard we are fighting.

    I'm working really hard to understand my feelings about food. I run a lot, and so when I have a longer run like today, I feel like I "need" to eat more. I get stressed about bonking on my runs, and I know I need to just listen to my body more and realize I can always get food.

    I'm reading a book called Crave by Cynthia Bulik that's been super helpful.

    We kick *kitten* :) It's a battle, but we're fighting, which is a beautiful thing to see.

    My BED has only in the last 6 months gotten bad again, and luckily I haven't gained much weight, maybe 5lbs. I obsessively exercise until I burn off the calories... which isn't good, but eventually I'd like to be working out a ton (because I love it) and not bingeing, so I can lose the weight I've gained, and really be proud of my body AND actions.

    If you are running a lot, your binges might be because you are needing more fuel than you are giving your body. You look very thin in your profile picture. If you are underweight(not saying you are) but if you are, it will bring about issues with binging. And certainly doing a lot of cardio without adequate carbs will.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    I have crave the podcast downloaded. I have not listened yet. May try it today.


    I am super tired today. I know days I am tired can be hard for BE. I plan to eat filling lower calorie foods and keep busy.
  • Chibea
    Chibea Posts: 363 Member
    Hi all!!

    For the new people who are having trouble right now - you are definitely in the right place. This group has helped me so very much.

    I am also one who has trouble stopping once I get started, but I find if I keep logging, even if I have to make my diary private until I get through the worst of it, I do get back on track faster!! Try to be objective and analytical about your eating patterns and get as much emotion out of it as you can. I think we start a binge for many reasons, but we keep eating out of self-loathing and hopelessness. If you can see this as a long term goal and realize that one binge will not derail your fitness lifestyle, it will help you get less emotional about it.

    You are doing great taking the steps you are to succeed!!

    The little things you do are making a huge difference in your life. :drinker:

    Finally and really important - The only failure is giving up!!!!!!
  • Hello to All!

    I just joined this group and I've just realized that my overeating is really binge eating.....it finally hit me last night as I was bingeing. I don't know why I haven't realized this before now, but I haven't.

    I lost 20 lbs last year and then starting in November of last year I started bingeing after a nasty fall that left me with a disloacted shoulder and a wound in my leg 1 inch deep and 2 inches across. I had to do physical therapy 3 times a week and go to the Wound Center once a week. I have bipolar disorder and had stopped my therapy in October because in the winter, the walkway at my therapist's office is very treacherous. I'm all healed now and I've started therapy again.

    I hope to get support and provide support by joining this group and thanks to everyone in advance.

    Donna L.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Hello to All!

    I just joined this group and I've just realized that my overeating is really binge eating.....it finally hit me last night as I was bingeing. I don't know why I haven't realized this before now, but I haven't.

    I lost 20 lbs last year and then starting in November of last year I started bingeing after a nasty fall that left me with a disloacted shoulder and a wound in my leg 1 inch deep and 2 inches across. I had to do physical therapy 3 times a week and go to the Wound Center once a week. I have bipolar disorder and had stopped my therapy in October because in the winter, the walkway at my therapist's office is very treacherous. I'm all healed now and I've started therapy again.

    I hope to get support and provide support by joining this group and thanks to everyone in advance.

    Donna L.

    Hi, welcome, and glad you are healed and back in therapy.
    Also suspected of having bipolar among various other things.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    Welcome Newbies!

    I binged last night Luckily it was not on all unhealthy food. Some was greek yogurt and bananas :happy:

    Still it was very much over and I just tracked it all. I really need to get this figured out. I am so frustrated right now and so confused.
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    I counted yesterday as a binge day too. It is all about my behavior with the food. Unfortunately even a large amount of healthy food = unhealthy behavior. Obviously something was bothering me, but instead of using alternate coping strategies to explore and deal with it, I chose to turn to food. Made it an early night so that I could stop before I reached 3,000 for the day. I consider that a success though. It could have been far worse, especially if I had unhealthy calorie rich food in the house. Good thing I didn't.

    Thank you all for sharing too!

    Diane
  • LOVEsummer
    LOVEsummer Posts: 304 Member
    I'm definitely feeling strong enough to battle the BED today, but still thinking about it and food nonstop.

    To the above poster who asked questions about my workouts and my weight, you didn't offend me at all! I'm slim, yes, but at 5'2" and 110-115lbs still well within the healthy weight range. That being said, I was definitely trying to restrict my calories too much on big workout days. It's tough for me to find a balance because huge runs (20+ miles) mean I have to eat a lot, and it's tough to stay mindful when my body is screaming EAT! I love running too much to give it up though, but I'm working on it.

    Tsikkz, I can't wait to look up the podcasts you suggested!!! :D I love her book thus far and I'm really hoping between her and my therapist I can get a handle on this in a healthy way. I can't wait to be able to say I went a whole month without bingeing.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    I counted yesterday as a binge day too. It is all about my behavior with the food. Unfortunately even a large amount of healthy food = unhealthy behavior. Obviously something was bothering me, but instead of using alternate coping strategies to explore and deal with it, I chose to turn to food. Made it an early night so that I could stop before I reached 3,000 for the day. I consider that a success though. It could have been far worse, especially if I had unhealthy calorie rich food in the house. Good thing I didn't.

    Thank you all for sharing too!

    Diane
    It is success Diane for sure!! Yesterday was similar to me but I was celebrating good stuff and I know not a good behavior. We use food to celeberate and to cope with stress. How can we win? But we will!! Thanks for sharing too!
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Yesterday was one of those bad/good day deals for me.

    After a large weight loss it is so hard for me not to binge. I like to treat myself with splurge on food instead of other things. I am doing good working on this in the sense that my binges are getting much more controlled and on a much smaller scale toothan in past and this morning I still weighed in after binge yesterday and was only up 1 pound which is better than past binges for sure. I usually do not weigh after a binge but I am forcing myself to do it from now on.

    Yesterday my net calories were not over 3000 and I logged it all too. Another success! In the past binges exceeded 5000 calories and I stopped logging it. So yesterday forced myself to log it all which helps control it too. I am getting there. I want to get down to one splurge meal per week (one splurge item per week) vs a day binge and yesterday I definitely consider a mini binge and I maintained my weight loss if I get right back on track today. So I am overall happy about yesterday for sure….and moving forward to today..

    Have a wonderful weekend!!
  • I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Welcome Newbies!

    I binged last night Luckily it was not on all unhealthy food. Some was greek yogurt and bananas :happy:

    Still it was very much over and I just tracked it all. I really need to get this figured out. I am so frustrated right now and so confused.
    Good job on tracking it all Karen!
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    I see a lot of new faces out there! Welcome!!
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    ^^ I has been posting the link to the group in the motivation forum for some days now, hehe.

    I am having a good run currently.
    I am not finding IF so hard. In fact, it makes eating more enjoyable for me because instead of the indecisiveness I used to experience over which thing to pick for dinner so I didn't go over this, or that, I can pretty much eat what I want for dinner as all the calories have been saved up. I only snacked anyway during the day, and got a lot of calories in my daily latte and cake treat, so this is better. Obviously, I sometimes get hunger before my dinner, but it has not been intolerable and just looking forward to and planning dinner helps with that.

    Seen quite a few who have found Intermittent fasting has helped with their binging. It also seems to result in my macros naturally ending up where they should without fussing.
  • hdkerr
    hdkerr Posts: 145 Member
    I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.

    I'm proud of you for making it through the day. I think it's all about small steps getting you in the right direction. Logging it can be painful, but it's great that you did it. I think it makes me feel more accountable for my actions. Just try your best everyday, one day at a time. I believe in you.

    Heather :)
  • angelaengbrecht
    angelaengbrecht Posts: 55 Member
    Last night I binged, and today I'm trying to eat normal. I'm under my calories for the day, so I need to eat dinner, but I can feel a binge coming again, and I'm terrified that if I start I won't be able to stop.

    I'm probably feeling like binging because I only ran 1/2 of my daily training schedule, then I got a call from my boyfriend (who currently lives 8000 miles away) and I stopped. Now I don't feel motivated to start again, and I'm also feeling like I don't "deserve" food, which I realize is insane, and just setting myself up for a later binge.

    I'm not sure what to do, but being able to vent about it (for the first time ever... I'm so glad I found like forum!) really helps...
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Last night I binged, and today I'm trying to eat normal. I'm under my calories for the day, so I need to eat dinner, but I can feel a binge coming again, and I'm terrified that if I start I won't be able to stop.

    I'm probably feeling like binging because I only ran 1/2 of my daily training schedule, then I got a call from my boyfriend (who currently lives 8000 miles away) and I stopped. Now I don't feel motivated to start again, and I'm also feeling like I don't "deserve" food, which I realize is insane, and just setting myself up for a later binge.

    I'm not sure what to do, but being able to vent about it (for the first time ever... I'm so glad I found like forum!) really helps...

    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,
  • mary659497
    mary659497 Posts: 484 Member
    I feel exactly the same way.
  • I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.

    I think keeping your behaviour in your awareness and being accountable is a good step
  • Got right back on track last night after the binge....I did log it all though....what an eye opener! I tried to focus on what my feelings were before during and after the binge but I can't come up with anything. I always do feel bad afterwards but before and during, I just don't know....I don't think I feel anything but that's probably not true. Whatever it is, it's buried pretty deep.

    We're going out to eat tonight and I usually do fine at restaurants and usually don't binge on those nights so maybe I'll have a good day under my belt....sure hope so.
  • tsikkz
    tsikkz Posts: 404 Member
    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,

    This is so true, and so beautifully put. I really believe weight loss is 90% mindset and 10% application.

    I can talk to people and usually tell whether they are ready to succeed or not, its the same vibe I get when I talk to other people who have achieved their goals. Its like an undefined realization deep inside that can only be reached through personal growth. One things for sure though, you reach that level only by failing multiple times, and because of that every time we fail we need to grow from it.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Got right back on track last night after the binge....I did log it all though....what an eye opener! I tried to focus on what my feelings were before during and after the binge but I can't come up with anything. I always do feel bad afterwards but before and during, I just don't know....I don't think I feel anything but that's probably not true. Whatever it is, it's buried pretty deep.

    We're going out to eat tonight and I usually do fine at restaurants and usually don't binge on those nights so maybe I'll have a good day under my belt....sure hope so.

    I think part of the binge process is that it sort of sinks whatever feelings are actually at play, which is probably why many of us do binge. It acts as a cover. A temporary elastoplast.
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