March Check-in&Chat - Green beer to fuel your lifts!

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  • Fittreelol
    Fittreelol Posts: 2,535 Member
    Nice lifts there Soos!

    Yeah I did take a week off about 3-4 weeks ago, but I was nursing a sprained knee and a cold. In 6 more workouts I'll be through cycle one, so maybe I'll pull a Vegas and deload the last week of March then start building from deload weights. :smile: Good advice friends. Vegas did you deload a specific % for your light week or did it depend on the lift?
  • hofosho1020
    hofosho1020 Posts: 179
    wahooooo my OHP didn't suck today! still only 45lbs, but I managed 55554 and only didn't try that last one bc i felt like this guy and his kid were staring at me LOL

    also, squats after a 3 mile run are rough. but i feel like a BA after, so that's cool. ; )

    hope everyone had a great Sunday!
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    wahooooo my OHP didn't suck today! still only 45lbs, but I managed 55554 and only didn't try that last one bc i felt like this guy and his kid were staring at me LOL

    also, squats after a 3 mile run are rough. but i feel like a BA after, so that's cool. ; )

    hope everyone had a great Sunday!

    Yay for kicking the OHP *kitten*!!! (And speaking of kicking *kitten*, you should have taken that guy and his kid out...)

    I don't think I could squat much of anything after a 3 mile run. Mostly because at the end of three miles I'm celebrating that I didn't die. You're definitely BAMF for lifting after running!
  • hofosho1020
    hofosho1020 Posts: 179
    Yeah, I didn't increase my weight on the squats after the run....just my normal 95 5x5.

    Could have totally taken them out LOL...he was an upper body junkie with chicken legs and his kid was lifting less than me. ;)
  • Angellaree
    Angellaree Posts: 71 Member
    Wondering what everyone's favorite SL "move" is? I am new but I LOVE the deadlift! Made me feel badass. All 65 whopping pounds! Lol

    Bench Press. No question.

    Deadlifts are my second favorite.



    This probably for me. Not really sure why, but I am really surprised how I'm progressing at the bench considering how weak my arms are (even though I just had to deload). Again with the DL, surprised at how much weight I can move, and I can be all loud and "slam" the weights on the floor (I'm actually pretty good about it, but I'm definitely the loudest one in the gym since no one else is lifting from the floor). Definitely making me feel BAMF.


    Ha! I have not heard BAMF in forever, but that is so how I felt after my whopping 65 lb deadlifts today! Lol. I am sure once I start lifting more (and get some mats since I lift at home) I will be "slamming" my weights down too! :laugh:
  • Angellaree
    Angellaree Posts: 71 Member
    Oops...didn't realize I mentioned how much weight I did twice. Need more sleep!
  • lexgem
    lexgem Posts: 163
    For people's having troubles with recovery.....I would highly recommend a deload if it has been some time (or ever) since you have had one. I did that between cycle 1 and 2 and my body was super happy and I feel very refreshed moving forward. I do really think it's something to consider.


    When would you recommend it? What do you consider to be a "cycle"?
    I'm considering doing a little deload since even though I can complete the 5x5 on most lifts (except OHP and bench where I fail every other workout and am progressing slowly), I'm starting to notice that my form, while still ok, isn't as good as it was last week.

    I'm also wondering about rest weeks. I know the program doesn't advocate it but as I've read often Mehdi is a bit of a hack even though the program is good. In NROLFX books they advise you to take rest weeks every month or two, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    For people's having troubles with recovery.....I would highly recommend a deload if it has been some time (or ever) since you have had one. I did that between cycle 1 and 2 and my body was super happy and I feel very refreshed moving forward. I do really think it's something to consider.


    When would you recommend it? What do you consider to be a "cycle"?
    I'm considering doing a little deload since even though I can complete the 5x5 on most lifts (except OHP and bench where I fail every other workout and am progressing slowly), I'm starting to notice that my form, while still ok, isn't as good as it was last week.

    I'm also wondering about rest weeks. I know the program doesn't advocate it but as I've read often Mehdi is a bit of a hack even though the program is good. In NROLFX books they advise you to take rest weeks every month or two, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not.

    A "cycle" is officially 12 weeks of the program. However, last month we were talking about if that was more just an advertising gimmick; "I can make you stronger in 12 weeks". It's not like the program is supposed to end after 12 weeks, and there is not "official" deload period. That said, most everyone I see who lifts recommends deload periods. Somewhere I read that your ligaments and tendons take longer to heal because there is less blood flow to them. Not sure if that is why, but rest/deload periods seem pretty universal. Seems like it would make sense to put them at the end of a cycle, but if you feel you need it before that, you should probably listen to your body.
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    For people's having troubles with recovery.....I would highly recommend a deload if it has been some time (or ever) since you have had one. I did that between cycle 1 and 2 and my body was super happy and I feel very refreshed moving forward. I do really think it's something to consider.


    When would you recommend it? What do you consider to be a "cycle"?
    I'm considering doing a little deload since even though I can complete the 5x5 on most lifts (except OHP and bench where I fail every other workout and am progressing slowly), I'm starting to notice that my form, while still ok, isn't as good as it was last week.

    I'm also wondering about rest weeks. I know the program doesn't advocate it but as I've read often Mehdi is a bit of a hack even though the program is good. In NROLFX books they advise you to take rest weeks every month or two, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not.

    A "cycle" is officially 12 weeks of the program. However, last month we were talking about if that was more just an advertising gimmick; "I can make you stronger in 12 weeks". It's not like the program is supposed to end after 12 weeks, and there is not "official" deload period. That said, most everyone I see who lifts recommends deload periods. Somewhere I read that your ligaments and tendons take longer to heal because there is less blood flow to them. Not sure if that is why, but rest/deload periods seem pretty universal. Seems like it would make sense to put them at the end of a cycle, but if you feel you need it before that, you should probably listen to your body.

    I don't know that the 12 weeks is a gimmick exactly considering that it's a free program. All programs have a time frame associated with them and Mehdi says to continue on with the program as designed until you are no longer progressing. If it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. It bugs me that he doesn't address deload weeks or rest periods as it is pretty much a universal concept. From what I have read and researched, I would say every 12 weeks is reasonable to have a deload, but listen to your body for sure and if you feel like you need one before, then take one. I took an exercise break mid January and then deload at the end of February and it didn't hurt my progress at all.

    Once other thing that I would like to not is that it is normal to start to slow on your progress as well as to fail. It's part of the program and actually it should be embraced as this is the time when the magic starts to happen. Obviously there will come a time where you can't continue to progress using 5x5 but I really do feel that doesn't/shouldn't happen very quickly.
  • chunkmunk
    chunkmunk Posts: 221 Member
    I have a question related to the rest/deload ones. I'm nearly done with the first 12 weeks (workout 29 is tonight). I'm thinking I will take a rest week afther the next 7 workouts.

    But after that I'm not sure what to do. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss cardio. And I have an itch to complete Tapout XT (I have a weird obsession with dvd programs). Has anyone dropped to 3 x 5 just because, instead of because they needed to? I'm wondering if I could pull off 3 x 5 two times per week and Tapout. But maybe that's way too much? Any thoughts?
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I don't know that the 12 weeks is a gimmick exactly considering that it's a free program. All programs have a time frame associated with them and Mehdi says to continue on with the program as designed until you are no longer progressing. If it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. It bugs me that he doesn't address deload weeks or rest periods as it is pretty much a universal concept. From what I have read and researched, I would say every 12 weeks is reasonable to have a deload, but listen to your body for sure and if you feel like you need one before, then take one. I took an exercise break mid January and then deload at the end of February and it didn't hurt my progress at all.

    Once other thing that I would like to not is that it is normal to start to slow on your progress as well as to fail. It's part of the program and actually it should be embraced as this is the time when the magic starts to happen. Obviously there will come a time where you can't continue to progress using 5x5 but I really do feel that doesn't/shouldn't happen very quickly.

    Hm, yeah, gimmick is probably too strong of a word. Maybe "catchy slogan". And better than "I'm going to pump... you up!" :laugh:
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    I have a question related to the rest/deload ones. I'm nearly done with the first 12 weeks (workout 29 is tonight). I'm thinking I will take a rest week afther the next 7 workouts.

    But after that I'm not sure what to do. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss cardio. And I have an itch to complete Tapout XT (I have a weird obsession with dvd programs). Has anyone dropped to 3 x 5 just because, instead of because they needed to? I'm wondering if I could pull off 3 x 5 two times per week and Tapout. But maybe that's way too much? Any thoughts?

    I mean ultimately do what works for you and what you are happy with! I'm not totally familiar with the Tapout program but if I recall correctly there is dumbbell work in it. If that's the case I'm not sure that it will be sustainable with doing even a 3x5 program just because you really won't have any recovery time. Rather give your all to one program than half *kitten* it with two if you know what I mean.
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    I don't know that the 12 weeks is a gimmick exactly considering that it's a free program. All programs have a time frame associated with them and Mehdi says to continue on with the program as designed until you are no longer progressing. If it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. It bugs me that he doesn't address deload weeks or rest periods as it is pretty much a universal concept. From what I have read and researched, I would say every 12 weeks is reasonable to have a deload, but listen to your body for sure and if you feel like you need one before, then take one. I took an exercise break mid January and then deload at the end of February and it didn't hurt my progress at all.

    Once other thing that I would like to not is that it is normal to start to slow on your progress as well as to fail. It's part of the program and actually it should be embraced as this is the time when the magic starts to happen. Obviously there will come a time where you can't continue to progress using 5x5 but I really do feel that doesn't/shouldn't happen very quickly.

    Hm, yeah, gimmick is probably too strong of a word. Maybe "catchy slogan". And better than "I'm going to pump... you up!" :laugh:

    Bahaha although I could totally hear Mehdi saying that :laugh: I also just noticed the spelling errors in my post! "Once" is supposed to be "one" and "not" is supposed to be "note" No way did I have Baileys in my coffee this morning! :drinker:
  • chunkmunk
    chunkmunk Posts: 221 Member
    Rather give your all to one program than half *kitten* it with two if you know what I mean.

    Ha! Yeah, this is actually really good advice. IF I try Tapout, I would only do the cardio workouts, not the resistance ones. But your advice makes a lot of sense.Thanks!
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    Rather give your all to one program than half *kitten* it with two if you know what I mean.

    Ha! Yeah, this is actually really good advice. IF I try Tapout, I would only do the cardio workouts, not the resistance ones. But your advice makes a lot of sense.Thanks!

    YW :happy:
  • xidia
    xidia Posts: 606 Member
    Just calculated that if I gave up my weekly bacon butty on a Friday at work, I'd save half the monthly cost of membership of a gym *on* my route to work which has power racks. This would mean I could avoid these d&mn hack squats...decisions, decisions.

    I'm locked into a 12 month contract at my existing gym until October, but that does have a pool, health spa etc which the other one doesn't. So maybe I need to get my value for money from those?
  • Fittreelol
    Fittreelol Posts: 2,535 Member
    Just calculated that if I gave up my weekly bacon butty on a Friday at work, I'd save half the monthly cost of membership of a gym *on* my route to work which has power racks. This would mean I could avoid these d&mn hack squats...decisions, decisions.

    I'm locked into a 12 month contract at my existing gym until October, but that does have a pool, health spa etc which the other one doesn't. So maybe I need to get my value for money from those?

    If I had the money I'd have like 5 gym memberships. I currently have 2, but they're both pretty inexpensive. I started a PF contract in May of last year, but I decided having a power rack was worth finding an additional gym. Thank goodness they're both only 20/month. Then I asked at pf the other day when exactly my contract was up, and they said I'm on month to month. So I know I should cancel, but I love their cardio equipment, and it's pretty cheap...I mean I could easily spend 20 on random things at target I don't need. I would love to join a powerlifting gym, and go to pl for random cardio, and my other gym for classes, and since I'm dreaming a yoga studio membership is in my ideal setup too. :laugh:
  • extraordinary_machine
    extraordinary_machine Posts: 3,028 Member
    I'm actually enjoying the OHP more now...busting past 55 pounds, while it took forfrellingever, it was game changing! Like it gave me more confidence to push myself even harder on the other lifts. Honestly, the only lift I don't LIVE are the rows.
  • Soosannah
    Soosannah Posts: 270 Member
    Stopping by to say HOLA, BONJOUR, and HELLO! I was so enjoying my time off but having to comeback to work screwed that up!
    Hope everyone is having a great day
  • Soosannah
    Soosannah Posts: 270 Member
    I'm actually enjoying the OHP more now...busting past 55 pounds, while it took forfrellingever, it was game changing! Like it gave me more confidence to push myself even harder on the other lifts. Honestly, the only lift I don't LIVE are the rows.

    WTG but I'm extremely jealous. I hate hate hate the OHP and am pretty certain ill be stuck at 45lbs forever.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Hmmm favorite lift varies for me, depending on how I'm doing. I like them all for reasons.

    Bench press is the one I feel best about all around (my favorite to execute I guess, because I feel the most bada$$)
    Squats are a close second but some times I hate doing them (whereas I never whine about Bench pressing!) -- but I think squats are the BEST in terms of results in how I look overall and strength.

    Deadlifts are my weakest lift, movement speaking (obviously still my highest number, but my worst lift by far)

    Pendlay rows are really REALLY hard to get down right but I feel like they are really the most effective mid back exercise I ever have done.

    Overhead press is just ok. Falls somewhere in the middle for me. What I do like about it is hte technicality of it - little tweaks make a huge difference.
  • fisherlassie
    fisherlassie Posts: 542 Member
    I like the bench press the best! I remember my dad doing it when I was a kid and I just think of it as a classic. It also seems to help my aikido shoulder.

    I am finally back up to 100 lb on the squat!! Very happy about that!! I did 80 on both the bench press and the row today.

    I have decided that I can't afford to eat the way I like to so I'm going back to eating 1200 plus exercise calories. I still have lots of fat to lose and it isn't coming off very quickly at the moment so that is convenient for the financial situation. I hope it doesn't effect the lifting. I eat really well so I am sure i'll get all the nutrition I need, but I was enjoying all the calories! Goodbye extras, just the basics for a while. I'll call it cutting!
  • extraordinary_machine
    extraordinary_machine Posts: 3,028 Member
    Soos, for me, the biggest thing to busting past my "plateau" if you want to call it that, was just adding fractional amounts of weight--so my fractional plates were key. It took me forever to get to 50 pounds...and then another several weeks to get to 55.
  • chubby_checkers
    chubby_checkers Posts: 2,354 Member
    Just stopping in to say hi and I hope everyone had a good Monday.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Soos, for me, the biggest thing to busting past my "plateau" if you want to call it that, was just adding fractional amounts of weight--so my fractional plates were key. It took me forever to get to 50 pounds...and then another several weeks to get to 55.

    me too. I was stuck at 65 forever until I got fractionals.
  • Soosannah
    Soosannah Posts: 270 Member
    Soos, for me, the biggest thing to busting past my "plateau" if you want to call it that, was just adding fractional amounts of weight--so my fractional plates were key. It took me forever to get to 50 pounds...and then another several weeks to get to 55.

    me too. I was stuck at 65 forever until I got fractionals.

    Must go by big *kitten* washers or some tape. Our smallest is 2.5lbs and 5lb increase is definitely too much for me.
  • iorahkwano
    iorahkwano Posts: 709 Member
    Starting week 9. Progress so far:

    Week....Squat...BP.....BBR....OHP....DL
    1..............55......55......65.......55.......115
    2..............75......55......70.......55.......115
    3..............85......60......75.......70.......125
    4..............85......65......75.......70.......130
    5..............95......70......70.......70.......155
    6.............125*....65......75.......75.......165
    7.............125.....70......85.......75.......170
    8.............130.....70......90.......80.......175
    9.............135.....75......90.......
    **Jump in weight was due to switching from Front Squat to Back Squat.
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    Lorah those are some serious numbers! Great progress lady!
  • vashnic
    vashnic Posts: 93
    Amazing progress Lorah! :love:
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Must go by big *kitten* washers or some tape. Our smallest is 2.5lbs and 5lb increase is definitely too much for me.

    Just FYI I asked at our local Lowe's for 2-inch inner diameter washers and they carry no such thing.

    You may end up having to stop by an actual Fastenal store (which thankfully we have in our area ... and I found out people use 2-inch washers to build game pieces ... basically anything other than actually use them for washers ... that's what the store clerk told me anyway :laugh: )

    Fractionals are definitely the way to go if you're stalling. I can always add 1.25 pounds to any lift just by adding a washer on each side, and do that pretty much indefinitely (or at least for a very long time). It's eventually going to get me where I want to be, just not as quickly. Or maybe even quicker, because I won't stall out as often and actually continue to build muscle and grow in strength more reliably.

    Rippetoe says that as a woman, fractionals are pretty much a must-have, especially for presses because sustained 5-pound jumps on presses after the first few weeks or couple months once you're past the super-noob stage is unrealistic.