BE Support Group Conversation Thread - 2013

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  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,

    This is so true, and so beautifully put. I really believe weight loss is 90% mindset and 10% application.

    I can talk to people and usually tell whether they are ready to succeed or not, its the same vibe I get when I talk to other people who have achieved their goals. Its like an undefined realization deep inside that can only be reached through personal growth. One things for sure though, you reach that level only by failing multiple times, and because of that every time we fail we need to grow from it.

    Totally agree, and would also add that this seems to apply to so many areas in life. It might seem terrible at the time, but with each failure we experience in life, whether it be relationship, diet, career or other aspect, we need to grow and learn from it or we just keep on repeating the same mistake over and over, a bit like groundhog day. I think humans can be very resistant to accepting that something they are doing is not working... to making themselves vulnerable and taking another direction.
  • angelaengbrecht
    angelaengbrecht Posts: 55 Member
    Last night I binged, and today I'm trying to eat normal. I'm under my calories for the day, so I need to eat dinner, but I can feel a binge coming again, and I'm terrified that if I start I won't be able to stop.

    I'm probably feeling like binging because I only ran 1/2 of my daily training schedule, then I got a call from my boyfriend (who currently lives 8000 miles away) and I stopped. Now I don't feel motivated to start again, and I'm also feeling like I don't "deserve" food, which I realize is insane, and just setting myself up for a later binge.

    I'm not sure what to do, but being able to vent about it (for the first time ever... I'm so glad I found like forum!) really helps...


    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,

    Thank you for the words of wisdom!

    I did beat it, which is a FIRST for me. I can sometimes see binges coming, but I've never successfully stopped on UNTIL LAST NIGHT.

    It's really nice to know that I'm not alone. All of you are so inspiring to me. Knowing that other people have fought (and won!) this battle makes it so much easier for me.

    I did eat a healthy dinner. I bought a bit of healthy fruit on the way home, and ate it slowly and carefully. I managed to walk past multiple bakeries and convenience stores that normally might have been a disaster for me. Then, I decided that I could eat some dinner, and still manage to stay in control.

    I bought a healthy take out option, which I portioned into two, so as to stay under my calorie goal!

    THE OTHER HALF IS STILL IN MY FRIDGE! That never happens. For months I've avoided keeping any food in my house, as I will eat it all uncontrollably. This is a huge victory for me.

    Thank you (all) for the support!
  • angelaengbrecht
    angelaengbrecht Posts: 55 Member
    I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.

    I think keeping your behaviour in your awareness and being accountable is a good step

    I absolutely agree.

    The best first step you can take is a determination to log it all. I think it's so important, because it shows a willingness to accept and be honest with yourself. And of course, if you can't be honest with yourself, you'll have a hard time moving forward.
  • Hi
    I have been logging every last thing that goes into my mouth....I've never done this before, I only wrote down the good stuff and maybe some of the excess but not all of it. I can really see the huge amount of calories I am taking in and it is an eye opener.

    I wish I could stop this eating during the night. I wish I didn't wake up at all but I wake frequently and every time I do all I want to do is eat. Any suggestions?

    Donna L.
  • mom2izzyandallen
    mom2izzyandallen Posts: 25 Member
    I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.

    I do this too! I will be doing great and then I'm up all night long. I'll keep getting up, if I know there is something out there that I want. Is this a common thing for ya'll? This is literally, the first time, I've heard of anyone else struggling with is.

    When I KNOW I'm going to be tempted, AND when I CARE....I'll have my older children, put the "XYZ" in their rooms. I won't wake them up to get it...so it helps me be safe.
  • I often binge when I get up during the night and I usually get up 2-3 times a night. I had a great day with no bingeing yesterday but did binge during the night. I logged it all which is a first for me. I am determined to deal with this issue.

    I do this too! I will be doing great and then I'm up all night long. I'll keep getting up, if I know there is something out there that I want. Is this a common thing for ya'll? This is literally, the first time, I've heard of anyone else struggling with is.

    When I KNOW I'm going to be tempted, AND when I CARE....I'll have my older children, put the "XYZ" in their rooms. I won't wake them up to get it...so it helps me be safe.
  • One thing I do....drastic though it may be....is I have my husband lock the refrigerator and keep the key on his side of the bed. I would never go over there to get it for fear of waking him. I haven't done this in a long time but I just asked my husband now if he would lock the fridge tonight....so here's hoping for a binge free day!

    Donna L.
  • angelaengbrecht
    angelaengbrecht Posts: 55 Member
    Hi
    I have been logging every last thing that goes into my mouth....I've never done this before, I only wrote down the good stuff and maybe some of the excess but not all of it. I can really see the huge amount of calories I am taking in and it is an eye opener.

    I wish I could stop this eating during the night. I wish I didn't wake up at all but I wake frequently and every time I do all I want to do is eat. Any suggestions?

    Donna L.

    I have a similar problem, although it won't be in the middle of the night, it'll be more toward evening. Since I live alone I'm "free" to binge just about anytime. I'm guessing that you're binging at night because that's an easy time to engage in bingeing without fear of interruption.

    Anyhow, the strategy I employ is to simply not keep food at home. I buy all my consumables for the day, during the day thatIi will eat them. The only thing in my fridge right now is condiments. This might (or might not) be a practical solution for you depending on your lifestyle.

    I hope to eventually be able to keep food in my house, but I'm just not there yet.
  • Last night I binged, and today I'm trying to eat normal. I'm under my calories for the day, so I need to eat dinner, but I can feel a binge coming again, and I'm terrified that if I start I won't be able to stop.

    I'm probably feeling like binging because I only ran 1/2 of my daily training schedule, then I got a call from my boyfriend (who currently lives 8000 miles away) and I stopped. Now I don't feel motivated to start again, and I'm also feeling like I don't "deserve" food, which I realize is insane, and just setting myself up for a later binge.

    I'm not sure what to do, but being able to vent about it (for the first time ever... I'm so glad I found like forum!) really helps...


    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,

    Thank you for the words of wisdom!

    I did beat it, which is a FIRST for me. I can sometimes see binges coming, but I've never successfully stopped on UNTIL LAST NIGHT.

    It's really nice to know that I'm not alone. All of you are so inspiring to me. Knowing that other people have fought (and won!) this battle makes it so much easier for me.

    I did eat a healthy dinner. I bought a bit of healthy fruit on the way home, and ate it slowly and carefully. I managed to walk past multiple bakeries and convenience stores that normally might have been a disaster for me. Then, I decided that I could eat some dinner, and still manage to stay in control.

    I bought a healthy take out option, which I portioned into two, so as to stay under my calorie goal!

    THE OTHER HALF IS STILL IN MY FRIDGE! That never happens. For months I've avoided keeping any food in my house, as I will eat it all uncontrollably. This is a huge victory for me.

    Thank you (all) for the support!

    Good for you!!! Stopping a binge is the ultimate achievement!
  • One thing I do....drastic though it may be....is I have my husband lock the refrigerator and keep the key on his side of the bed. I would never go over there to get it for fear of waking him. I haven't done this in a long time but I just asked my husband now if he would lock the fridge tonight....so here's hoping for a binge free day!

    Donna L.

    I think that is pretty smart :)
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Hi
    I have been logging every last thing that goes into my mouth....I've never done this before, I only wrote down the good stuff and maybe some of the excess but not all of it. I can really see the huge amount of calories I am taking in and it is an eye opener.

    I wish I could stop this eating during the night. I wish I didn't wake up at all but I wake frequently and every time I do all I want to do is eat. Any suggestions?

    Donna L.

    I have a similar problem, although it won't be in the middle of the night, it'll be more toward evening. Since I live alone I'm "free" to binge just about anytime. I'm guessing that you're binging at night because that's an easy time to engage in bingeing without fear of interruption.

    Anyhow, the strategy I employ is to simply not keep food at home. I buy all my consumables for the day, during the day thatIi will eat them. The only thing in my fridge right now is condiments. This might (or might not) be a practical solution for you depending on your lifestyle.

    I hope to eventually be able to keep food in my house, but I'm just not there yet.

    I live totally alone too, but my fridge, freezer and cupboards are well stocked with chicken breasts, fish, fruit, greek yoghurt, almonds, peanut butter, sweet potatoes, pasta, black rice, canned beans, steak, cottage cheese, hard boiled eggs, frozen berries, quinoa, avocado and protein infused oatmeal. I do not tend to binge on that sort of food. I might occasionally go crazy on the almonds, but oddly, not the peanut butter. I also keep dark chocolate here, and no issues there either. It is only things like ice cream, sugar infused yoghurts, milk chocolate, cake, bread, cookies, pastries and the like, that I have to keep out, or keep in individual, occasional servings.
  • karendee4
    karendee4 Posts: 558 Member
    Just ready to give up today. I am not getting treatment for BE from my therapist. Seeing the Doc today,

    I keep thinking about BE treatment centers but then I would miss out on my kids lives for the time. Also, I have 2 volunteer jobs I do hoping to land a real job for next school year.

    The Doctor does not believe there is any medical treatment for BE. She says it is not a disorder yet? HUH So confused.


    Anyone done the residental programs? I am trying to find one that lets me go home each day and do my volunteer work 2x a week.
  • Just ready to give up today. I am not getting treatment for BE from my therapist. Seeing the Doc today,

    I keep thinking about BE treatment centers but then I would miss out on my kids lives for the time. Also, I have 2 volunteer jobs I do hoping to land a real job for next school year.

    The Doctor does not believe there is any medical treatment for BE. She says it is not a disorder yet? HUH So confused.


    Anyone done the residental programs? I am trying to find one that lets me go home each day and do my volunteer work 2x a week.

    What you are talking about would be outpatient/day programs. I would look up eating disorders and your town/city and see what comes up. Did you look up the Fairburn book? that seems to be what ppl's therapists are recommending
  • rani_87
    rani_87 Posts: 5
    Had the worst weekend ever and let it beat me the past three days in a row. Gained five lbs from it too... I was doing so well with this diet but lately it keeps kicking me back down and making me hate it all over again. So yes, I'm new to this group, and hoping it helps. Because any little bit helps, right?
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    Had the worst weekend ever and let it beat me the past three days in a row. Gained five lbs from it too... I was doing so well with this diet but lately it keeps kicking me back down and making me hate it all over again. So yes, I'm new to this group, and hoping it helps. Because any little bit helps, right?

    Right! I hope it helps for you too. It does for me.
  • rani_87
    rani_87 Posts: 5
    Thank you : )
  • rincoglionita
    rincoglionita Posts: 177 Member

    The Doctor does not believe there is any medical treatment for BE. She says it is not a disorder yet? HUH So confused.

    Your doctor is flat-out WRONG. It's in the new DSM coming out soon: http://www.nepsy.com/articles/leading-stories/dsm-5-to-include-binge-eating-disorder/

    If a disorder makes it to the voting stage, as this one finally did, it's for sure legitimate, and it angers me (for you) that she is so ill-informed.

    There actually is pharmaceutical treatment for BED, though it is not without risks. Check into Topamax if you're interested (I took it for several years, and it helped me IMMENSELY).
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Had the worst weekend ever and let it beat me the past three days in a row. Gained five lbs from it too... I was doing so well with this diet but lately it keeps kicking me back down and making me hate it all over again. So yes, I'm new to this group, and hoping it helps. Because any little bit helps, right?

    Welcome, and I am fairly sure a lot of those 5 Ibs will be water weight, not genuine gain as you would seriously need to have overeaten by a total of at least 16k calories for a genuine 5 Ib gain. Wait for the water weight to come off. And check your diet is not too strict or too low in calories as both can lead to developing issues with binge eating.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Just ready to give up today. I am not getting treatment for BE from my therapist. Seeing the Doc today,

    I keep thinking about BE treatment centers but then I would miss out on my kids lives for the time. Also, I have 2 volunteer jobs I do hoping to land a real job for next school year.

    The Doctor does not believe there is any medical treatment for BE. She says it is not a disorder yet? HUH So confused.


    Anyone done the residental programs? I am trying to find one that lets me go home each day and do my volunteer work 2x a week.

    There are certain medications that can help, often anti depressants since depression is linked to BED, but also there are specific therapy programmes used, specifically, DBT and CBT. DBT is often done in groups and teaches you to recognise your feelings and deal with them in a healthier way. There are books available as well where you can learn DBT techniques by yourself.
  • hdkerr
    hdkerr Posts: 145 Member
    Had the worst weekend ever and let it beat me the past three days in a row. Gained five lbs from it too... I was doing so well with this diet but lately it keeps kicking me back down and making me hate it all over again. So yes, I'm new to this group, and hoping it helps. Because any little bit helps, right?

    First of all I think your avatar is pretty cute. Second I think you finding this group has been a great step in the right direction. There's probably no one here that hasn't been in your shoes or felt what you are feeling right now. I know I have. :) Heather
  • hdkerr
    hdkerr Posts: 145 Member
    Last night I binged, and today I'm trying to eat normal. I'm under my calories for the day, so I need to eat dinner, but I can feel a binge coming again, and I'm terrified that if I start I won't be able to stop.

    I'm probably feeling like binging because I only ran 1/2 of my daily training schedule, then I got a call from my boyfriend (who currently lives 8000 miles away) and I stopped. Now I don't feel motivated to start again, and I'm also feeling like I don't "deserve" food, which I realize is insane, and just setting myself up for a later binge.

    I'm not sure what to do, but being able to vent about it (for the first time ever... I'm so glad I found like forum!) really helps...


    I tend to feel very bad if I miss exercise myself, and for some reason, doing less can often trigger hunger in me, or the urge to eat bad things, but think to yourself, 'this is illogical. I could not complete my exercise, but as long as I stay within my goal by a few hundred calories, I am perfectly fine'. Life happens, including interruptions to schedule(which I hate, incidentally, being in the autistic spectrum). Instead of binging, have a really nice dinner, something you might normally consider too indulgent for dinner, and enjoy it. Missing half your training will not impact your weight, it does not work like that. In fact, often when people take a rest for a day and eat a little more, they lose more. It is to do with hormonal responses and giving your body a slight shock. Hope you manage to fight the urge and remember, you do deserve food. We are supposed to eat, regardless of exercise. Exercise should, in truth, be for health, stamina. Strength, wellbeing, fitness. Not a method of burning off calories. In the non dieting world, that just does not come into play. People eat well, within reason, with some indulgences here and there, and exercise because they enjoy it and it keeps them feeling well. Try and work on your mindset a little, it might help,

    Thank you for the words of wisdom!

    I did beat it, which is a FIRST for me. I can sometimes see binges coming, but I've never successfully stopped on UNTIL LAST NIGHT.

    It's really nice to know that I'm not alone. All of you are so inspiring to me. Knowing that other people have fought (and won!) this battle makes it so much easier for me.

    I did eat a healthy dinner. I bought a bit of healthy fruit on the way home, and ate it slowly and carefully. I managed to walk past multiple bakeries and convenience stores that normally might have been a disaster for me. Then, I decided that I could eat some dinner, and still manage to stay in control.

    I bought a healthy take out option, which I portioned into two, so as to stay under my calorie goal!

    THE OTHER HALF IS STILL IN MY FRIDGE! That never happens. For months I've avoided keeping any food in my house, as I will eat it all uncontrollably. This is a huge victory for me.

    Thank you (all) for the support!

    Yay for you stopping yourself. That was HUGE. I'm very proud of you!
  • Had the worst weekend ever and let it beat me the past three days in a row. Gained five lbs from it too... I was doing so well with this diet but lately it keeps kicking me back down and making me hate it all over again. So yes, I'm new to this group, and hoping it helps. Because any little bit helps, right?

    I just did 4 days, and the weight came right down once I got back on track. Let it motivate you to get back on track. I have been doing well too, and need to keep my gains.
  • Feel like I am going to binge right now, but really don't want to! I have made it the last 3 days in a row. Any suggestions everyone? I am going to try and get some water to see as I am sure I am just thirsty, but I really feel like I want some dark chocolate and by some I mean alot! My self-control is getting better, but don't feel like it right now.
  • jaimrlx
    jaimrlx Posts: 426 Member
    I've had a bad, bad day. I want to binge, but just binged 4/13. Every other day is my norm. I'm not getting treatment for B.E.D, but have been diagnosed, as if that was even necessary. All in all, it just kind of made things worse.

    I'm over my calories already, but have manifested some sort of false hungry that can't be calmed. In that very moment, every food that I binge with came barging into my mind and I can even taste them in my mouth.

    The more sad I am today, the deeper it's pulling me in. Problem is, It's 9:26pm and the day gets worse by the hour, minute, second.

    Losing hope.
  • jaimrlx
    jaimrlx Posts: 426 Member
    Feel like I am going to binge right now, but really don't want to! I have made it the last 3 days in a row. Any suggestions everyone? I am going to try and get some water to see as I am sure I am just thirsty, but I really feel like I want some dark chocolate and by some I mean alot! My self-control is getting better, but don't feel like it right now.

    I know how you feel today. Distract yourself, if you can. I'm at work for another 3 hours, and that's not a distraction enough for me. I'll sit here and obsess over food until I get some. I wish you luck!
  • rincoglionita
    rincoglionita Posts: 177 Member
    I've had a bad, bad day. I want to binge, but just binged 4/13. Every other day is my norm. I'm not getting treatment for B.E.D, but have been diagnosed, as if that was even necessary. All in all, it just kind of made things worse.

    I'm over my calories already, but have manifested some sort of false hungry that can't be calmed. In that very moment, every food that I binge with came barging into my mind and I can even taste them in my mouth.

    The more sad I am today, the deeper it's pulling me in. Problem is, It's 9:26pm and the day gets worse by the hour, minute, second.

    Losing hope.

    Hang in there! Been there, of course. It seems that emotions are behind this desire to binge, so I'd just recommend that you sit with the hard feelings and let yourself feel what you feel. It's possible that you want to binge because it will soothe whatever anxiety you're feeling. If you binge, you will still have those hard feelings, but you'll have all the binge crap to deal with, too.

    Take good care of yourself!
  • rincoglionita
    rincoglionita Posts: 177 Member
    Feel like I am going to binge right now, but really don't want to! I have made it the last 3 days in a row. Any suggestions everyone? I am going to try and get some water to see as I am sure I am just thirsty, but I really feel like I want some dark chocolate and by some I mean alot! My self-control is getting better, but don't feel like it right now.

    How are you doing now?
  • Thanks for the support everyone. Well I got some water with lemon juice in it, then brushed my teeth. Still haven't binged. Going to try to get some sleep, though I am craving a "snack" to put it politely. Jaimrix hang in there, who knows after work maybe you will be so tired you fall right asleep with no craving for a binge whatsoever! :)
  • rincoglionita
    rincoglionita Posts: 177 Member
    Thanks for the support everyone. Well I got some water with lemon juice in it, then brushed my teeth. Still haven't binged. Going to try to get some sleep, though I am craving a "snack" to put it politely. Jaimrix hang in there, who knows after work maybe you will be so tired you fall right asleep with no craving for a binge whatsoever! :)

    Well done! Enjoy the sleep of a strong fighter!
  • prestonam
    prestonam Posts: 24 Member
    Hey Everyone, I have recently been diagosed with Bullima Nervosa (binge not vomit) been put on lexapro and go to a psychologist twice a month (all i can afford). Ive been having a bad day today mainly I think because its my first day of my woman time(haha). I have been trying an eat every hour tool that my psychologist told me to try and its been so sooo good until today. Argh, i feel sick because I ate too much but I still want more so aggrevating. Especially since I lost a kilo and was so happy this morning and now I want to eat. :-( I just want to go asleep and wake up in a new day but no its 3.25pm loads more time to eat :-(
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