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I lifted this morning! BACK - BB rows = 3x8x70; single arm inverted grip pulldowns = 3x8x35 each side, rack pulls 3x3x165, DB pullovers 3x12x20, DB shrugs 3x12x27.5
Beeps, I can't quote the science Schuler discusses, but one of the primary things I took from it was that as we lose weight, because we lose weight, our bodies don't require as many daily calories! Example - 2 women, both 5 4, both weigh 150, but one woman is 150 after losing 25 pounds over the previous months. Even though both are the same weight, and discounting genetics etc., the woman who has lost weight will have either eat even fewer calories or work harder to burn off more calories because of her weight loss or she will gain weight. It's not that starvation mode thing everyone claims happens, just that a body adjusts it's needs. He also says for most people, 6 months of dieting only - after that it's probably not going to produce any results.
Schuler also says which program isn't as important as doing it, doing it hard, and doing it with all you have. He thinks people spend too much time lollygagging around trying to find a program they like instead of just doing it.
He also suggests that Strong is designed to hit all those places that sometimes are overlooked, including balance work and that sort of thing - which I know I really need to get back to. The thing I liked and hated about NROL4W was all that "fiddly" work - because that's the stuff that keeps me mobile and flexible. No I really don't like single leg split squats etc. Actually I HATE them, but I know, as I am getting older, my balance is not good! I want to improve that! (NROL4Life also focused on those "getting older" issues)
Like you, I too am 10 pounds heavier than last year. I went away to trial in October 2014 and for a couple of months, no workouts, little sleep and mostly horrid food. I have struggled to get back to all the things that I know are good for me since then!
...and we have another trial starting the first week in February 2016, equally as long. I will be living in a hotel, eating deli food for the most part and surviving on a few hours of sleep nightly.
So my immediate and current 2016 goal is to get these 10 off so I am back even when this new trial starts!0 -
I am 10 pounds heavier too. Can't seem to get moving today. Very sluggish. Walked through bedroom to get in shower but the bed invited me to snuggle. Hopefully I will walk later.0
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Yeah I recall being quite fed up realizing that as I lost weight I had to eat less! But then again, it was even harder to eat more once my energy expenditure increased and I wasn't getting enough fuel. Sure I lost weight but it became unhealthy. I'm now about 10lbs over my previous 'goal weight' but much healthier for it. And with leaning out and muscle gain, most of my measurements have stayed about the same. It's hard to juggle the weight loss, diet and health at the same time. That's why I don't look at my weight anymore but rather my body fat % which tells me a lot more about how my body is going than the scales.0
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I was thinking along the same lines Jo. I have put back on about 10lbs of what I lost but I am not any bigger because of it. My scales has shown no change in body fat % since I started tracking it about 18 months ago but I know that I have lost fat and gained muscle. Although I still have a long way to go.
Since posted last week all excited about PRing my deadlift I got a bad dose of the flu and haven't lifted since last Thursday. I am going to try to get back to the gym tomorrow but it is deadlift day again and I somehow doubt that I will be feeling too strong.
I haven't gotten strong yet but it is on my xmas wishlist. Technically I don't need it since I have strong cruves and the workout from the Lean Muscle Diet to get through, and I also want to do stronglifts for a while. But I can never have too many books and I really like the way Lou writes.0 -
I think I may have to get Strong too. I'm happy to plod through what I'm currently doing, but it would be nice to have another book to read, and like Dou, I like the way Lou writes.
Today's achievement so far (its 9am), is that I did a gym session and I haven't completely lost my *kitten* with the kids (only a little bit ).
Three more days of school. Just three more days...
And eight days of work.0 -
Met with trainer before lifting. After that, I lifted weights, jogged on treadmill, went out for sushi and checked out a different sports nutrition store. Got some p28 to try, white chocolate, which does have whey so I won't have it often but will be interesting to try a 14 grams of protein peanut butter. Plus got another shaker cup cause 1 is not enough. This one has a spot for "pills" so vitamins and such but I'ma put snacks in it, hehe.
35 - upper hypertrophy
incline bench 4x10 @ 70 - challenge by the end. Some reason I had 75 written for last time but pretty sure I did 70 as that was my fail point weeks ago. May try 75 next week though.
db fly 17.5 4x8 - tad more challenging since increased this time
seat row 2x8 @ 80 and 2x8 @ 70 - the tension felt off even 70 was almost too hard, not sure why it feels different sometimes.
1 db row 4x8 @ 27.5 - not bad, moving up slow but steady on these
cable bicep curl 3x12 @ 50 - tough for those last reps
cable tricep extension 4x10 @ 70 - not bad but still a challenge
30 minutes jogging on treadmill0 -
Thanks, suelegal!! I am going to get the book.....I have kept up with the niggly stuff and my balance (and ankle strength) are the best they have been since my pre-pubescent gymnast days!!!
I am interested in eating less.....and Venus has always lead with the EM2WL is pure b.s.....so, I do try to live off starvation calories when in fatloss mode. I succeeded at this three years ago.....being unemployed has seriously brought my eating to new emotional low levels.
I feel lame even discussing this.....
Anyway, I lifted today. BOOM!0 -
I keep losing my posts! I've been reading but haven't gotten to post in a few days.
Great feedback on Strong! Thanks ladies! I'm doing stronglifts and like it, but I miss lifting 4-5 days...I do some cardio on off days but not a cardio fan . I'm reading something called shockwave protocol and it incorporates carb manipulation into it, which historically is what's worked well for me in weight loss. Not jumping off the SL bandwagon just yet, but wondering about adding to it? Hmm.
And I too am 10 lbs heavy than I was this time last year. Funny! I think some of it is muscle, but I also know some is still fat from my 3 weeks of fun back in June.
And to that point about losing weight and then needing fewer calories than similar weighted people who haven't lost weight...that is 100% true!!!! Sadly . But, I am hoping with continued lifting, muscle gain and watching my carbs I'll eventually be able to maintain around my calculated level of calories. When I'm strict LC and working out I can maintain around 2300cals, no problem. But when I add carbs in at that level I start to gain. Still fiddling around with things...but having spent most of my adult life as morbidly obese I understand I am not like everyone else
Missed working out today, just cardio. Too much running around. I get to lift tomorrow . Yay!
Keep lifting you lovely ladies! Even if the scale isn't our friend...the muscles and iron are real !!
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Combat done. Over cals because I ate fudge. Long day. Hoping for a good night's sleep - supposed to be DL day tomorrow and I can't even imagine having the strength.
Hoping too to receive Strong for Xmas/ Bday.0 -
So my plan to get back to the gym today after my flu was over optimistic. I went back to work and by lunch time I just wanted to crawl into a hole and sleep for a million hours. So I decided to give myself more time to recover.
Julie, I am also finding that the types of food I eat have an impact on my weight. I might have IBS so the doctor suggested that I try the low FODMAP diet and when I stick to it my belly shrinks and my weight drops, but as soon as I eat something with wheat I expand again! Its interesting to see the impact it has on my body.0 -
Beeps, you should never feel lame! I know your work ethic makes you feel that way but really, the word has radically changed and jobs, career paths, the whole employment landscape is not what it used to be. You should instead simply acknowledge that being without a job is stressful to you and you react sometimes! I totally get it, and I totally honor it. You get a double BOOM today !0
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On the treadmill as I type.0
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DNA-Hope the time passes quickly for you!
Beeps-(((hugs))) the low calories thing isn't sustainable long term, but I've seen limited success with short bouts of it. You've had seasons of great results (before Europe for instance?) and I think we all have seasons. Be gentle on yourself. And good job on lifting!
Dou-glad you didn't hit the gym...hope you feel better fast! Bummer on the ibs. Hope you can find a balance with some yummy foods that agree with you. My Dh and dd(12) are GF and ice cream is their friend .
Jo-yum! Fudge!
Dawn-jogging after lifting? You inspire me...not to jog, that's crazy talk , but to add some cardio or at least take shorter breaks btw my lifts
I just made the most delicious jambalaya! Why have I never made this before? So what if the kids don't Iike spicy, have some plain chicken and rice . I'm skipping the rice, but Dh will like it. Making my nose run! (I'm fighting a cold. Maybe I can burn it out?)
I lifted today. It felt great! I deloaded my BOR by 5 lbs and felt so much better with ROM. My squat form was good too! Yay!0 -
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Yes, Julie, "before Europe" was the LAST time that I really felt good about my health/nutrition/fitness plan....and actually even about my career (which I thought was "on hold"....not on PERMANENT JOB-HUNTING MODE).
The GOOD news is that I really do have a few months to shed the fat....it isn't like I am sliding into a bathing suit in 2 weeks. The BAD news is that I really do NOT have my head in the game, even though I beat myself up about THAT every single day!
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So, I DID lift today....that is three days in a row.
Tomorrow will be a rest day. BOOM!
I have finished the BIG de-clutter!! Toys are all gone. EcoStation has been visited. And 12 bags of garbage (6 last week and 6 this week) have all left me feeling a big lighter.
The house looks GREAT!0 -
I had a long post typed out. Not sure why my phone did not post it. I can't remember it all.
Strong book came in today. YAY!
My short term goal is to continue walking and lose 5 pounds by 12/31.
Long term goals; Begin lifting. continue walking, and lose 20 pounds overall. I want to feel strong again.
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I did manage DL day today - increased reps too. Upped weight on single leg press and calf raises. Was pushed for time so only did 1 set of single leg DL - which worked well as legs were jelly and balance was shite, lol. Been out of the house 8.30am to 10pm today. And early shift tomorrow followed by Christmas party/ meeting. No workout tomorrow.
I'm not convinced I'll have my abs for Christmas although my TOM bloat is not helping. I think I have lost fat though - that or gained more muscle as I can see more definition on my legs. I took a 'before' pic so maybe once Christmas comes I may see some changes in the abdominal area. Although I've not seen the results I want yet, my goal is helping me to track macros better and reduce the amount of carbs I was eating. And reduced my alcohol intake. All positives :-)0 -
Sounds like you are doing well Jo. Stomach is my trouble-y spot but I can always envy/appreciate the success others see there.
I lifted last nigh after work. It was a long night with needing to get gas (attendant was quite chatty) and stop at another store for work supplies cause we're running out and freight isn't coming till late tonight. So, after lifting I just ate some turkey my roommate had cooked then went to bed cause I got up earlier than normal this morning to take supplies in to work before coming home to nap.
Another day on PHUL for me. I am liking it so far, though still go meh to calf work and bicep curls. My elbow got a bit cranky from the skull crushers but think I need to back down a little since I know the weight now of the ez curl bar. It's feeling better today, but was cranky yesterday. I'm trying to do more sets on the hypertrophy days also so we'll see how it goes, since can do 3 or 4 sets.
36 - lower hypertrophy
front squat 3x10 @ 85 and 1x6 @ 105 - had a long sleeve shirt and the bar slid on the last set hence the 6 instead of getting in 8. It was heavier though at that point and more challenging. Hands/wrists are not up to par for that amount and won't be for a while, 85 still makes them grumpy.
bar lunge 4x8 @ 75 - I've not increased much cause lunges aren't my fave cause the knees and they do twinge a tiny bit with these but nothing at all with squats.
good morning 4x10 @ 70 - first time switching between sets and not keeping weight the same as lunges, not too bad as I don't want to increase a lot on these.
leg extension 4x8 @ 80 - changed the seat so it felt better overall
leg curl 4x10 @ 70 - tough but think I situated better on the seat and felt more in hamstring this time than before, though still a little in the calves.
seated calf press 4x10 @ 105 - still meh, I don't even rest as long as any other exercise cause I'm ready to be done and yeah, #teamnocalves
Normally, I would be working freight most of my shift today but because weather/truck issues, we won't do much today. I'm going in later than scheduled in fact, so I can work extra tomorrow to get more done then. Fun times.0 -
Good lifting, ladies! BOOM!
Today, I rested. Tomorrow I lift!!0 -
Hey girls!
Beeps-that's a lot of decluttering, WTG! 3 lifting days in a row? Good job ther too! Rest day is good
Dawn-good lifting! My mid section is my challenge too . But progress is still good, perfection unlikely for me, but progress is good .
Jo-good job on the DLs...I still struggle with upping weight on them b/c of my back. Hope your abs pop out in time for Christmas. I. Sure they will!
Manic-good job walking and like the goals. getting back to lifting is good.
I took a nice walk with my BFF today. Lifted yesterday and will lift tomorrow, all good. Enjoying stronglifts for now, but see a 4 day split in my future. Not sure which one, may go back to that routine Jo shared that I followed for 2 months. Not sure why I stopped that? I think I wanted to do more squats? Can't remember. Lol! It's going well, slow steady progress, better form and less pain, and getting stronger too . If only the fat would go0 -
So....am combining SL with NRoL4W - doing both workouts as part of the same session - usually with less weight on the NR sets than on the SL sets, so I can concentrate on form rather than what numbers I am lifting if that makes sense. But the numbers are getting closer together, so I am really pleased with that. Have done 13 of the 16 stage 1 sessions, so looking forward to incorporating new things in stage 2 in a week or so!
Am tired at the mo, though - lots of people in my office have the lurgy, so not sure whether I am skirting around that, or whether it is just the grey weather and dark mornings making me feel a bit meh! It is chaos at home as both my son and daughter set off for a winter season in ski resorts - son leaves on Sunday, daughter the following Sunday, so we have to do "Christmas" this weekend, and yet I am still surrounded by washing to be done before packing, relatives to be visited before the kids disappear for 6 months, blah blah blah....and then I've got to do the airport runs - with working 10 hours a day, there are just not enough hours in the day at the moment it seems!
Ho hum, will put my happy face back on. I lifted yesterday, but I really want to go again NOW!!0 -
Lifted yesterday and today! Legs yesterday - I could barely walk down the stairs when I was finished - SLDL, decline leg press, hack squats, extensions, and seated calf raises. None were my heaviest, but all were done with a concentration on form. My squats have not been as deep as I would like, hence the hack squats - I lightened the weight and focused on a slow drop as deep as I could while maintaining form. Today my quads are screaming!
Today, arms and shoulders and core - I did DB laterals, tricep extensions, curls, barbell upright rows, one arm lateral cable raises, swissball crunches with weights, and standing weighted side bends.
Good food yesterday that I never logged due to crazy work schedule through next week - I was over slightly on calories but it was all good food, no junk. I have a holiday party this weekend. I'm going to eat but not go over board on quantity.
Hope you all have a great weekend.0 -
Just finished NROLFW 3A and it went pretty well. I couldn't resist adding in a few extras so I worked on plank and lunges, plus db bench press as I need to increase my upper body strength. I didn't get a cramp in my quads doing the lunges so that was a huge improvement. I am loving lifting and always wish I could go again the next day but I don't want to push my luck and end up injured so I don't.
@kimiuzzell I am impressed that you do SL as well as NR.0 -
I did go lift today....but it was a "meh" session.
Scale weight UP.
That just f*cks with my head something awful. Might be time to step away until i can get my head back in the game.0 -
This is a first for me : I just got off the treadmill at 11:40 pm CST! I never exercise late. Yay me ! About to shower and set up camp in the bed with Strong book.0
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Beeps, maybe put the scale away for a bit, because that b*st*rd really does *kitten* with our heads.
It's 1am.
Both my boys are sick.
They've been accidentally glutened.
I f*cking hate Coeliac Disease.
As you can see, this is all gearing up for a brilliant (sarcastic) Sunday.
And a great start to the school holidays...0 -
Sorry to hear that dna - hope they feel better soon.
Beeps - either put the scale away or monitor weight daily. And record it. Then you get to see an overall trend rather than daily fluctuations. My weight varies by up to 8lb depending on the time of the month and my intake! You can't trust each reading alone.
Great job manic - that's a good effort right there.
Well I'm up for shift #6 this week. Am supposed to lift after work but not sure if I will as I know I'm not 100% well. Had sore throat and swollen glands for about 4 days. Did combat yesterday and my body objected the whole way through..... might skip today and rest up. Will see how I feel.0 -
Jo- Hope you can get some rest and fight off that cold. Rest is important too!
Beeps-the scale is mean and evil, and a liar. Stepping away is wise. I have done that from time to time.
DNA-so sorry!!! That just plain stinks hope the rest of the holiday break goes much,much better!
Kim-where do you live that your kiddos go skiing for 6 months? Crazy but cool! Try to enjoy this hectic time together. You'll have more time soon enough, I am just doing SL for now, with some accessories thrown in. Good job on the progress!
Sue-good job on the food choices! Kutgw!
Mme-I know what y mean about wanting to lift again right afterwards..you're doing great!
Lifted today, went well! Off to a nice Christmas dinner shortly. Wearing a sparkly tank top so I worked shoulders a bit harder today . Have a grew weekend all!0 -
Hi All
I am new to lifting and pretty new to this thread and wanted to say hi. I spent a little time reading over the last couple of months of post. What an incredible journey you have all had. I am so impressed at the increases in strength and physical ability even with all the ups and downs life has tossed at you. It really is inspiring and makes me feel like it is possible to grow stronger and healthier. Of course looking better would be wonderful too. I have to admit that is part of it for me.0
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