baconslave wrote: »

JodiSW wrote: »

@baconslave

Great ideas! I was prelogging for awhile and it really helped. I haven't been recently so need to get on track. Thanks for the reminder!

When I was really pushing it, I logged M-F on Sunday and prepped meals accordingly...this only lasted about a month before I came to my senses that this was a bit whacko!

After reading your post I realized that I've been intermittent fasting, more through circumstance than intentionally. Recently, it's not unusual for me to only eat one meal a day (besides my BPC). I've been busy, the fat is satiating, and I try not to eat after 7pm.

This morning, I held tough! I actually rubbed some oil on my belly as I was getting dressed and talked out loud to it, squeezing my curves and pointing out how many snacks that we had stored already! The ludicrousness of the moment was enough to distract me until I got to work.

@4031isaiah
Christine, I don't worry about slowing my metabolism. I have plenty of fat stores . Also, it's my understanding that while slowing metabolism can happen, that it takes awhile on very low calorie diets, like 800ish for weeks or even months.

You can do this! There are a lot of kinks. But since I've keto adapted, it's much easier to deal with my cravings and even though I go off plan about once a week, I haven't binged in almost three months (I have an eating disorder). It's been so worth it for me.

LOL! You tell that belly who's boss. Not it!

When I got hungry on other eating plans, "hangry" was the word alright. Frantic, anxious, excruciating. I'm not going to lie and say when I started out doing IF on keto that it was a breeze, but I didn't kill anyone or make them cry. I was irritable toward the end of my fasting window, but it wasn't so bad. I did a lot better when I did IF with the BPCish keto-coffee. I was able to make it till about 2:30 or 3 pretty regularly. I think it's good to do some when you have a hang on keto. It helps you realize what real hunger is. And it's a powerful feeling to know YOU are in control. That you are finally mastering your hunger that you let run rough-shod over you before.

Speaking the truth !! It's amazing that when I was doing typical SAD how hungry I would get between meals etc....now that I'm integrating IF as well as Fast days into my Keto /LCHF program I feel so much more in control!!!

4031isaiah wrote: »

JodiSW wrote: »

@baconslave

Great ideas! I was prelogging for awhile and it really helped. I haven't been recently so need to get on track. Thanks for the reminder!

When I was really pushing it, I logged M-F on Sunday and prepped meals accordingly...this only lasted about a month before I came to my senses that this was a bit whacko!

After reading your post I realized that I've been intermittent fasting, more through circumstance than intentionally. Recently, it's not unusual for me to only eat one meal a day (besides my BPC). I've been busy, the fat is satiating, and I try not to eat after 7pm.

This morning, I held tough! I actually rubbed some oil on my belly as I was getting dressed and talked out loud to it, squeezing my curves and pointing out how many snacks that we had stored already! The ludicrousness of the moment was enough to distract me until I got to work.

@4031isaiah
Christine, I don't worry about slowing my metabolism. I have plenty of fat stores . Also, it's my understanding that while slowing metabolism can happen, that it takes awhile on very low calorie diets, like 800ish for weeks or even months.

You can do this! There are a lot of kinks. But since I've keto adapted, it's much easier to deal with my cravings and even though I go off plan about once a week, I haven't binged in almost three months (I have an eating disorder). It's been so worth it for me.

Congrats Jodi! It sounds like you're doing great! I love coming to this thread and seeing how people are doing and what their plans are for success.

For now, my plan is to just fake it 'til I make it. I know I'll get there, I just have to get there.

4031isaiah wrote: »

JodiSW wrote: »

@baconslave

Great ideas! I was prelogging for awhile and it really helped. I haven't been recently so need to get on track. Thanks for the reminder!

When I was really pushing it, I logged M-F on Sunday and prepped meals accordingly...this only lasted about a month before I came to my senses that this was a bit whacko!

After reading your post I realized that I've been intermittent fasting, more through circumstance than intentionally. Recently, it's not unusual for me to only eat one meal a day (besides my BPC). I've been busy, the fat is satiating, and I try not to eat after 7pm.

This morning, I held tough! I actually rubbed some oil on my belly as I was getting dressed and talked out loud to it, squeezing my curves and pointing out how many snacks that we had stored already! The ludicrousness of the moment was enough to distract me until I got to work.

@4031isaiah
Christine, I don't worry about slowing my metabolism. I have plenty of fat stores . Also, it's my understanding that while slowing metabolism can happen, that it takes awhile on very low calorie diets, like 800ish for weeks or even months.

You can do this! There are a lot of kinks. But since I've keto adapted, it's much easier to deal with my cravings and even though I go off plan about once a week, I haven't binged in almost three months (I have an eating disorder). It's been so worth it for me.

Congrats Jodi! It sounds like you're doing great! I love coming to this thread and seeing how people are doing and what their plans are for success.

For now, my plan is to just fake it 'til I make it. I know I'll get there, I just have to get there.

Thanks so much Christie. It's been a long struggle. And sorry I called you Christine...I know it's Christie.

It's like my logical brain is negotiating with someone in the throes of delusion most of the time...[/quote]

I also feel I'm in the throes of delusion at any given moment!!! My biggest truths when I go through a weight loss phase are logging honestly to a tee, and restricting my calories as well as carbs. Yes, I have a couple years of logging that back this up, sadly. I keep it under 20 carbs as well and get busy handling all the 'eat me" carb talk that goes on in my head. If I do these things I start losing again. When I let up or get sloppy I stop losing or stall or gain.
And that's what a life time of yo yo dieting does for you fitness pals! Have a good food day all!

JodiSW wrote: »

Christine, I don't worry about slowing my metabolism. I have plenty of fat stores . Also, it's my understanding that while slowing metabolism can happen, that it takes awhile on very low calorie diets, like 800ish for weeks or even months.

My own personal experiences belie this a bit. Generally, it's when you make a change by over 300-500 calories daily consistently. You'll burn it that high for a week, your body will get the drift and start lowering the metabolism to balance. It may take it another month or so to get there, but it will catch up and stall eventually.

So, if you were eating 2000 calories a day regularly or more, then dropped to 1500 to 1700 a day without stepping down slowly, your metabolism will still burn at the 2000 calorie intake rate until it realizes you aren't eating that anymore, then it will either pause until it can evaluate what you are doing, or it will gradually slow until things level out.

The body aims for homeostasis, so it's looking to balance what you're doing to stay steady. That's why we have to work to lose weight, etc. I know this doesn't happen with everyone, and for folks carb or calorie cycling it doesn't really apply, but that's because it's not consistent. When you're consistent, the body adjusts to keep up. When you're all over the place the body might pause to take stock. When you're intentionally cycling, the body will up things, then slow them, etc, and that kind of change CAN be good, if you've restored some metabolic flexibility.

Remember, too, that we can't tell the body where to burn fat from or when to burn it, it will do it's own thing...

ChoiceNotChance wrote: »

LOL- Loki. Right now Loki is whispering in my ear that there are brownies in the lunch room. Leave me alone and send your brother my way!!!

I know, right? It IS Thor's Day after all. We could definitely use an improvement in the "scenery."

So I'm in the middle of a water fast, and I can't believe it's been 48 hours....so far so good.....I will probably break my fast tomorrow morning sometime, depending on how I feel. I'm surprised how energetic I'm feeling !

LOL at the little Loki demon that sits on your shoulder - have you guys seen the comic about the Blerch? It's here - http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running - the artist is talking about when he goes running but I find the Blerch follows me around too!

I hope everyone's had a good week! I've finished university for the year now (yay!) and the takeaway on Tuesday night went well - I had tandoori chicken tikka and it was yummy. It's funny because before this WOE I would have ordered a curry, rice, naan bread and poppadums and eaten the lot. This time I ate my single portion of chicken and thought 'Actually, I don't need any more food now'. I love feeling so much more in control of my hunger and what I'm eating

I'm down 1lb from the start of the week, so not the biggest loss but still better than the stall I was on before so I'll take it I'm catching the coach to London later today and am going to aim to just eat as well as possible while I'm down there and hopefully stay keto. We're staying in a hostel that provides free breakfast, but in my experience this is usually toast and cereal so I might have to fast through until lunch on just coffee Oh well, we'll be doing loads of walking, so I'll get my steps in at any rate!

The plan is to start an egg fast on Monday next week and continue until Friday, so if anyone would like to do it with me add me/message me! I'm still wondering about calories as all those eggs, cheese and butter seem to add up to quite a lot?

New day, keto strong. Been on target all week. Tonite is dance/ drink/happy hour nite. So, after monitoring this for about two months i find that i will retain water til sunday or monday due to the liquor, but as long as i stick to my keto script it wont affect my overall progress at all. This is good because i finally found a place where i can let my hair down for a couple hours, make some new friends - so important for me as a new, single empty nester - get in some exercise via dancing and not go horribly off track with my keto life. It seems like the only downside is water retention for 2-3 days and while i dont like seeing it there on the scale ...it is predictable and consistent and it all goes away by Monday morning. Ahhhh, finally some fun for me.

4031isaiah wrote: »

This morning I enjoyed the most delicious bullet proof chai latte ever! I basically just use the bulletproof coffee recipe with black tea instead and then added spices… Yum!

I love chai, but have not attempted to replicate the spices and add it to black tea! What kind did you add? I m anxious to try it !!