4031isaiah wrote: »

I haven’t been in ketosis in a long time. I’m still doing IF, tracking and eating keto friendly foods, it’s just been lazy keto, more low carb than anything but I’m wanting to get back to the real deal. I want the bad keto breath and whole 9 yards.

Any suggestions for getting back there quickly? I’ve heard it’s harder for people who’ve been at it awhile.

@4031isaiah - sounds like you're well on your way to being fat adapted, which honestly, long term, did WAY more for me than being deep in NK...

What @Fvaisey said above - exercise to burn through any remaining muscle glycogen. Getting super strict with total carbs, not net, below 20. No AS for a week or 2 (can keep you out). No fruit. No booze. None of any of the things that you can tolerate better with fat adaption but that might hinder actual ketosis... Maybe an egg fast to kick things back off? Or a fat fast of any kind? Where you're 80-85% fats just to burn off any residual road blocks?

But honestly, what specifically are you looking to gain from getting hard back into keto? 70% (or more!) of those same benefits (aside from the medical things, like seizure prevention, etc.) are available to someone doing legit low carb (under 75-100 or so...) with no funny business... You can react difference to things that some folks. Maybe you can handle half a banana, but it would kick me out. Maybe I can handle a piece of "leaded" cake, sans frosting, but it would knock you right out. Everyone responds differently...

If you can tell us what specific facets you miss, we might be able to give better advice to regain those specific ... benefits?

4031isaiah wrote: »

KnitOrMiss wrote: »

4031isaiah wrote: »

I haven’t been in ketosis in a long time. I’m still doing IF, tracking and eating keto friendly foods, it’s just been lazy keto, more low carb than anything but I’m wanting to get back to the real deal. I want the bad keto breath and whole 9 yards.

Any suggestions for getting back there quickly? I’ve heard it’s harder for people who’ve been at it awhile.

@4031isaiah - sounds like you're well on your way to being fat adapted, which honestly, long term, did WAY more for me than being deep in NK...

What @Fvaisey said above - exercise to burn through any remaining muscle glycogen. Getting super strict with total carbs, not net, below 20. No AS for a week or 2 (can keep you out). No fruit. No booze. None of any of the things that you can tolerate better with fat adaption but that might hinder actual ketosis... Maybe an egg fast to kick things back off? Or a fat fast of any kind? Where you're 80-85% fats just to burn off any residual road blocks?

But honestly, what specifically are you looking to gain from getting hard back into keto? 70% (or more!) of those same benefits (aside from the medical things, like seizure prevention, etc.) are available to someone doing legit low carb (under 75-100 or so...) with no funny business... You can react difference to things that some folks. Maybe you can handle half a banana, but it would kick me out. Maybe I can handle a piece of "leaded" cake, sans frosting, but it would knock you right out. Everyone responds differently...

If you can tell us what specific facets you miss, we might be able to give better advice to regain those specific ... benefits?

I don’t have a specific reason other than breaking the pattern of doing well for awhile, slowly and unnoticeably slipping back into bad habits and not realizing what I’ve done until it’s too late.

I still have 35-40lbs to lose and I know the reason I’m not there yet is because of the slippery slope I’ve been going up and down for months.

@4031isaiah - Then I personally would work on getting to the root of your back-sliding - and addressing those specific issues...

Craving this because you ate that? Figure out why you ate/wanted the first food. Avoid the first one to avoid the second one.

Not logging faithfully so losing sight of "gateway carbs" or small ones to add up? Track again!

Missing specific foods? Find swaps that hit the nutrient or composition craving. Or, if necessary, have a very small amount of something, just enough to kill the craving, and hop right back on plan.

Hungry at odd times? Not staying full long enough? Make sure you are getting enough protein, enough fats, enough calories at once! Getting enough fluids?

Snacking or eating when not hungry? Journal, do therapy, etc., but figure out why you're stress or boredom eating, etc.

Too tired to cook? Make sure you have "back up" convenience foods...hard boiled eggs, lunch meats, canned/tinned foods, etc. Make a back up plan, because we all have times we don't want to cook, etc.

Too much exposure to the wrong foods being tempting? Get rid of them. Help your family get healthier, too. Keep any necessary foods (for others) in different areas for less "traffic" from you!


The best part is that you know how to make it work - you just have to dial in on the reasons!

@hillarymouse - Do you have your keto recipes at the ready? I know several of us have saved up holiday recipes!