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My two cents---everyone (except us of course) is apparently crazy.
That girl hit the officer. Really?? When I was young if we even talked back we would have been suspended from school. Not even the worst of us would have refused to leave a classroom and for gosh sakes it was a high crime just to have GUM.
Anyway, a couple of young guys (around 18) were fooling around in McDonald's last Friday evening I believe and when they left a man in his mid-30's went outside after them and yelled at them for misbehaving. He pistol whipped one of the guys and shot the other one. That guy is in ICU in critical condition and may never walk again if he survives. The shooter has already bonded out.
I am happy to stay home a lot! You never know what may be coming your way.
Take care my friends.
I also hope we hear good news from Jeri soon.
Hugs.
Lin0 -
Hello All,
My appointment went very well. The results of the MRI are good and the examination by my doctor was good too. Hurray. It is a little scary as lobular cancer, which Val has, doesn't always show up on tests too well. But my doctor did a thorough exam so I should be fine.
Speaking of Val. Good news, bad news. Tumor markers are down again but she suffers from horrible fatigue. They will cut her dosage again and hope to find a sweet spot to balance the cancer treatment and the fatigue. Here's hoping.
Ed and I got our flu shots today and on Friday we are heading up for the weekend to the area where I grew up. We'll visit family and have fun. Time to get away for a bit again.
Have a great evening.
Jeri0 -
I totally agree the disagreeable arrogant girl should be punished, but I also believe it sets a dreadful example for our people in uniform to display such loss of control as to throw a chair/desk containing a living being down and about with such force. Do I know what I would do? Not really! In some ways perhaps we have become a society of enablers??? Anyway, I must share with you that SANDY's poem has been the subject of tremendous conversation with so many people I don't even know stopping me to say thank you, some with tears in their eyes! I guess we all reacted similarly when SANDY printed it the first time!
PHOEBE, we all hope you will be safe driving all over creation! Here in Florida, we are losing much of the agricultural reserve to builders and new communities. No more roadside stands with beautiful produce. Just these huge McMansion communities spreading all around. But there is still a dearth of decent east/west routes, and probably driving a rig here would be very frustrating as traffic has become very heavy.
Must get some sleep as my cleaning helper comes tomorrow morning and I have much to prepare. At least I got the bed made. I cannot stand ironing any more and must figure out what to do about Mike's shirts and pants! I used to have some metal pant dryers that stretched pants and put a sharp crease in them, so perhaps I should check to see if they still exist! Have a good sleep everybody...
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I agree with you Buzz on the officer. He was out of his mind. Doesn't matter what caused him to lose it, a professional is trained to remain in control. In today's climate, I suppose I'd have called a parent to come and get her. Next would be police removal or worse, and deserved, an ambulance to take her for examination for mental illness possibly from some kind of abuse. I wonder how many teenagers behaving that way are Not mental?!
Time for a nap, yay!
Phoebe0 -
Last word from me. Every kid now knows, hey we don't have to put our cell phones down or stand up and go to the principals office when told. We have rights. However, when little innocents like Robbie start school, remember his future teachers are facing a classroom that probably holds one or two concealed knives or guns in today's climate. I most definitely wouldn't like to be a teacher in today's world. Was the policeman wrong in the use of excessive force, of course, maybe hand cuffing her to the desk temporarily and confiscating the phone would have been more appropriate.
It's unbelievable that things are now so out of control that we have police parading schools to protect the majority of children.
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Not the last word, ignore me but I can't resist a few musings. When my dad was 9 in 1911 he was caught taking a clock to pieces under his desk and putting it back together again. He got the cane. Today he would have got a pat on the head by a head of state and called a genius.
Anne at the age of 10 forgot her bible, she got the cane. Today she would have been sent to a counsellor because the poor child has got so much on her mind it's making her forgetful.
Mike at the age of 10 was being bullied. He and a friend made one of those paper water bombs beloved of small boys. They went to a window of the second floor above the outside door and dropped it on the bully. Unfortunately their timing was off and it hit the principal instead. They both got the cane. Today they would be viewed as potential future officers in the army and sent to Afghan etc.
In each case, each child was told by their loving parents serves you right, you won't do it again. We didn't.
That's all and I'm off! Before I get in more trouble,
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My two cents, I agree with everyone, the cop used out of control force on that girl. All he had to do was grab her shirt collar
and pulled her up out of the chair and out. I think he was trying to make a point on what he did but it back fired. Unfornately,
look what Isaac and Robby will have to deal with when they start school in the higher grades. Very scary for their parents.
I remember being in grade 6 and the teacher, a male, took this tough kid and threw him up against the lockers. The
teacher still kept his job and nothing happened. Remember those days!
Leaving this afternoon for Kristina's apt. in Toronto and staying overnight. Friday morning going to the Yoga Retreat
and a 4 hour drive to Kingston and then on to Wolfe Island for the Retreat. Same place we went to in July but a different
topic, How to Heal Yourself. Should be interesting, always learning something. Vegetarian meals all weekend.
Dave is going up North to the cottage with his two buddies and closing up the cottage.
We had some scary weather last night, high winds and lots of rain. Calming down a bit now. Well better get on my bike
and so some exercise before I leave.
Have a great weekend.
Shirley
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SHIRLEY, I really fear for those two little innocent and much loved babies, Isaac and Robbie and all the other little ones entering today's schools. What are parents supposed to do, put their little ones in private schools and their parents in the poor house. I believe the officer pulling her by the shirt collar wouldn't have done much good, she appears to be hanging onto the table or arms of the chair. Clapping the handcuffs to her arm and chair and leaving her where she wanted to be, wet pants and all until leaving time might have created an inkling not to repeat the offence, not to mention the onlookers!
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Hello sneakers, interesting discussions lately! My daughter is a teacher in the local high school, I taught in a community college for years, my husband was president of a small college for his entire work career. Education seems to be the profession that is common all across our family lines. To that end let me bring up some things to consider...
The students of today do not have the lovely 1950s school experience we had. No art, music, drama, or debate clubs. Sports participation costs $1,000 per sport, per season. The information a kid is to master today is about double what we used to be required to master. They spend 1/3 less time (hours) in school. They are required to take constant tests so the school can keep getting fed aid. They come to school from single family homes, (if indeed they have a home) they are hungry, tired, and drugs and alcohol and tobacco and violence is part of their everyday life. As much as 60 percent of kids are homeless and live by "sofa surfing" at friends houses. A cell phone is the lifeline to kids nowadays. It is their security blanket, it is their social life, it is important ownership. It is their family tie. Make no mistake about it...it is hard being a kid now. Most kids are not privileged to have a real childhood. Sex and the ugly realities of the world is pushed into their face as babies. I know I sound like one of those wimpy liberals. I have seen first hand some pretty heartbreaking circumstances. I just wanted to throw in some experiences from my family. Ending with this...take a wild guess how many parents show up at parent teacher conference sessions. You would be wrong if you guessed any number at all. Many times, no one shows up. We live in interesting times.
Patsy
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Thanks PATSY for putting forward another viewpoint, and in all honesty I know very little about the American system. I guess me and my family were privileged to have mainly a British school education and my grandsons a Canadian one after you clarified the situation in the States!
So I apologize if my limited views caused you or anyone else distress.
One thing though, how on earth can the children you describe afford a cell phone, tobacco or drugs? We certainly couldn't, nor my grandsons!
Anne0 -
On the one hand, I share the information that I still own only my clamshell cell phone which costs me $15 every 3 months; the one I was forced to purchase when Hurricane Wilma knocked out our phone and electricity for 21 days 10 years ago!!! It is used strictly for emergency and I now have something like 253 minutes on it, as the unused time is carried over! No pictures, no nothing, just barebones telephone calls if we have car trouble! So I, too, wonder how these kids pay for texting, photos, etc. I often wonder who teaches them priorities, and how will they learn to handle adulthood and its responsibilities? No wonder there are so many mass killings. I realize how insulated our living quarters are now, and I guess I'm grateful there are guards! PATSY, thank you for taking the time to bring many of us up to date! Did all this happen prior to TV violence or were we simply unaware?
Mike is continuing to receive therapy here at home, and I will exercise along with him, as I'm turning into a lump also! I gave him the POEM to read, and he in turn told the therapist he could not exist without me! I am not ignoring everyone today, simply grabbing time before preparing for dinner. I gave my cleaning gal a bunch of Mike's shirts to iron at her home, and breathed a huge sigh of relief! Small things like this may help me feel less overwhelmed. Must run. Hope we hear from JERI and JACKIE soon,... and better news from BARBIE. Hugs to all... Buzz 0 -
Happy Thursday!!
My personal opinion on the cop who manhandled the girl is I am glad he is fired. I do understand she was out of control but with all the police brutality in the news lately, there has to be other methods. As someone else noted it is interesting that no one put the video of her and what she might have done to provoke him but regardless there was no reason to slam her. I too, appreciate Patsy's view of the kids of today and teachers are paid to be teachers not babysitters. Of course their behavior starts at home, but if there is no discipline or in some instances not even a parent, it is no wonder we have such problems. My school days back in the 40 and 50's was so different and part of that is that I went to a Catholic School for grade school when it was about a $1.00 a month. My high school days were not as good as I really didn't like school and was not a good student and ended up quitting school which I have always regretted. Of course if a teacher had called my mother or father I would have been more afraid of them than the teacher. I still think there are a lot of good kids but all the news just reports the bad stuff. End of my soapbox.
Robby and I both napped this afternoon and I am glad since my friend might be coming over to watch Blacklist.
She leaves by ten to pick up her daughter from work otherwise I would tell her to leave so I can go to bed. lol
Have a great evening, mine is on the chilly side, so I will be using the fireplace.
Sandy
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hugs Jeri0
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Heading for my bed but checking in to see what you're all up to first! More than halfway through my treatment now and apart from a little discomfort and an annoying habit of snoozing in the middle of tv drama series I'm following in the evening, I'm fine! Oh yes, then there was the incident at the toll bridge I have to cross every day to get to the hospital where I found myself in the wrong lane and at an unmanned booth because it was for cars with tags only that open the barriers automatically. I had to endure a man wearing high viz jacket and clutching a clipboard giving me a lecture as the queue behind me began to trail back across the bridge. At first I was tempted to scream at him that I knew I'd made a mistake so just take the cash and open the damn barrier but then decided probably better to play dotty old lady who didn't know better and thereby keep my blood pressure down.... it worked!!
I'm finding your comments about that video fascinating because I live in a different culture and am struggling to understand what a police officer would be doing in a school classroom in the first place. In my opinion kids lacking discipline in the home which is where it all starts are probably craving guidelines and consistency and that responsibility is getting passed on to schools whether we like it or not. I can well believe Patsy's point that parents often don't bother to turn up to parent evenings no doubt due to lack of interest or having to work all hours to survive so their children don't stand a chance and if they spend hours playing violent video games on their computers or watching porn they're skipping childhood and going straight into an adult world they are too naive to understand or appreciate the consequences of their actions. For all that I'm sure the majority of kids are well adjusted and responsible human beings but it's the violent anti social behavior that receives media attention.
Patsy ~ Having spent nearly 20 minutes trying to turn the clock back in my car and this after 4 days thinking about it, I did smile at your comment about you and John driving along with handbook at the ready. I've owned my car nearly 8 months now and still haven't found my way around things like the air conditioning, not that I'm in need of it in our climate! Goodness knows what will happen if I get a puncture although I suppose I should at least find out where the spare is!!
Sandy ~ You've got it in one.... going home to parents after misbehaving at school was a terrifying thought, not that I was ever struck but the threat was there and that was enough!!
Buzz ~ That poem was a Godsend wasn't it, not only for your group but to somehow open up a channel of communication between you and Mike that had been getting clogged. How wonderful that he was able to voice his appreciation of you being in his life... something to hold close to your heart for the days that throw up wobbly moments.
Anne ~An incident in a school in Scotland has left a 16 year old boy dead after a classmate, and I use that term loosely, stabbed him. It seems the victim was extremely popular, quiet and thoughtful so goodness only knows what happened but sadly we have similar disfunctional kids turning to violence in the UK but with knives rather than guns.
Shirley ~ I do well remember those days at school!! When I was at junior school (ages 5 to 11) we had a teacher who would regularly hurl one of those wooden blackboard dusters at any child he thought wasn't concentrating on his lesson and he'd aim for an ear or nose too!! It didn't do any of us long term harm and as adults we'd laugh about it. Enjoy your retreat and come back refreshed and supple as a rubber band!!
Well it's now almost midnight and I can hear the rain beginning to pour outside so I will get myself off to bed. Hello to Lin and Marie, Barbie and Jeri.
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hugs Jeri
From me too Jeri! Glad for positive news. I hope you are enjoying yourself a bit now.
Did laundry today, then chopped lots of vegetables and made my own little salad bar for lunch!! It was more fun than putting everything together in the bowl. You miss some of the lovely colors!! I had leftovers for supper this evening and in between I watched a webinar, cleaned and cut up some celery, cooked my usual combo of onion, garlic and mushrooms. Then messed about a bit making some steel cut oats (it was oatmeal day today). Added pumpkin pie spice, Ceylon cinnamon and when it was done I added a can of pumpkin purée. I put it in the refrigerator to cool. I am thinking of taking out a serving tomorrow and adding grated apple.
Well, time to move on. I just watched the Charlie Brown classic--The Great Pumpkin. Love it! I am watching another webinar soon.
Hugs to all. See you soon.
Lin
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Lol Jackie! We wanted to give a man's car a jumpstart, it took longer than expected because we didn't know how to open the hood. Had to look it up in the manual. Took forever to find our fog light switch., even looking in the book! Guess they didn't expect anyone to be so blind.
Traveling, Phoebe0 -
Droping in to say Hello Dear friends.
Marie0 -
Oh Lin! I am so glad you mentioned The Great Pumpkin. One of my favorites as well. I love all Charlie Brown specials. The cartoon strip was so wonderful. I get weepy thinking that it is no more. Not sure if you ever saw the cartoon strip called For Better Or Worse. It was about a Librarian and her family. The artist is from Oregon. Wonderful little family humor situations. I always felt Charlie Brown cartoons were philosophical treaties on American life. Okay! I know I am sounding a bit like a dork.
Your oatmeal combo sounds too delicious! I am making oven sweet potato fries and green bean, mushroom, onion casserole with a grilled chicken breast for John. As you all can see, John hasn't given up meat. Nor will he ever.
Jackie! Once again, you are an inspiration. Positive thoughts equal positive results!
Anne: dear friend, we are all like you. We are all concerned about our youth and their education. We fear for our law inforcement professionals. We want the best for our schools and teachers.
Phoebe: how wonderful to help people out on the road. John would help but I would be of little use to anyone in need of assistance. Unless they someone to wring their hands and whimper...oh no! Not useful normally.
We are expecting a huge storm this weekend. 9 to 12 inches of rain with wind. We will doubtless loose power and the kids will not be out trick or treating. I think we are as ready as we can be.
Patsy
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Good morning everybody! I watched a Canadian programme last night and the new theory is, we put on weight because of bad bacteria or microbes in our gut increasing and killing off our good microbes, now there's food for thought, no pun intended! Anyway, after watching an hour of artificial gut demonstration at Guelph University (glad I'd eaten for the day) the answer was as usual, eat your veggies for good bacterial increase and consequential calories being consumed, and lay off the hamburgers, sugar etc. which the bad guys love, increase in number and don't contribute anything. It was all based on thin and fat mice, or a very thin aboriginal tribe who live on the fruits of the land. Same old same old really. I think I've got it right because the old eyelids started drooping near the end.
PATSY love, I know we all want the best, and I know we are all very worried about what the future holds. I shouldn't have twittered on so especially knowing you are a teacher and it must have been frustrating for you trying to teach your expertise and knowledge to some un responding youth. Well, the old world has stumbled along without my help so far, so I'll go back to MY old self and leave the world to it.
Yes JACKIE, you ARE an inspiration to us all. So calm, so level headed, and as Patsy said, positive thoughts equal positive results.
Well girls, now I've climbed off the old soapbox, hopefully for good, I shall amble off to the "organic garage" for more parsnips, beetroot, broccoli, etc to feed my little pet microbes of which I've apparently got a whole zoo full down there waiting to be fed. Ugh!
Anne (the subdued)
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Just stopping by to say how excited I am that our new washing machine will be delivered sometime within the next 3 hours. I've never been so excited to get to do laundry. Right now, my 2 sons and I are all negotiating for washing machine time today!
Jeri - So happy to hear your appointment went well. I'm sure that must be a welcome relief.
Anne - I very much enjoy feeding my little microbes. I have all sorts of goodies in the fridge for them!
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