Trying to Concieve

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  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    I'm right there with you @pezhed. 6dpo and been having cramping on and off on my right ovary for a few days. I know there isn't any way it means anything this early but putting it all in my fertility friend app anyway (for my Pregnancy write up after I get my positive :) )

    It's starting to go crazy over here. But I have a friend coming for the weekend so that should help me out unyil at least Sunday night!
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    Definitely feeling PMS coming on. Could have ripped someone's head off this morning when there were dishwasher-safe dishes in the sink this morning. Ah well, lessons learned this cycle to try out next cycle.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    My back pain has flared up and spread to the other side. Was in tears this morning, and stayed home today. Took a Pregnancy test and for the first time was releaved it was negative because that meant I could take some heavier pain pills. At 8dpo it's early for a positive....but I can't sit, stand, bend, twist or walk without pain and didn't want to take the meds without knowing for sure. This is very emotionally trying as I was so hopeful for a positive this cycle and am now conflicted. How can I survive a Pregnancy? :(
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    Ah I'm so sorry @Kirstie155. Is there any other way to treat it than with heavy pain killers? I don't think you could do any damage at this point if you are pregnant. I think "drink 'til it's pink" applies to most things that are eventually no-nos. I hope you feel better ASAP. Is there anything like acupuncture you could try out? I don't know if it really works but it seems to help alleviate some people's issues.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Thanks pez. I have an appointment with my spine doctor on Monday. Nothing to do until then but take it easy, and try to stay comfortable with the pain pills. I'm hoping my condition hasn't worsened, and I just messed it up doing something somehow. A worsening condition would mean surgery? Not sure how I can be pregnant and still function. I don't know how acupuncture would help...
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    Ah yeah I don't know if it would help where surgery is required (or if it would help at all). I just read some people use it for short term pain relief, but it also might be more mild pain than making-you-cry pain. I've never done it but my brother actually has it done on one of his dogs who has a tumor! Glad you have an appointment on Monday and I SO hope you don't have pain all weekend long!
  • SheilAnneSmith
    SheilAnneSmith Posts: 202 Member
    Oh no @Kirstie155 I'm so sorry to hear it's hurting again. I hate just dealing with mild cricks and such, I can't even imagine dealing with that kind of pain. I hope your appointment goes well on Monday.

    Hope everyone has a good weekend! It's been a crazy week here, I'm exhausted and ready to catch some extra sleep this weekend. Our 2WW officially starts today, I'm trying to keep a level head about it and not get my hopes up too much, however, I'm really happy with the attempts we got in.

    Anyone tired or seen the idea of slicing up a fresh pineapple the day of ovulation and eating it over the next 5-6 days? Supposedly the bromelain in the pineapple (and core) can help with implantation. My husband rolled his eyes and told me I was reading too much crud online when I grabbed one at Costco last weekend. But hey, I like pineapple, so what's the harm in trying it.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Sheila, I have heard of and even tried the pineapple thing. You have to eat the core, that's where the bromelin is. When I tried the pineapple thing...last cycle, I think...my o day shifted by 3 days so my timing of eating it was off. You are supposed to stop eating it at 5dpo bc it can screw w implantation. Tasty experiment :)

  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    So my doctor had a family emergency and will be out of town until Thursday. I've sent the past 3 days in bed, in pain and am not going in to work today. Yesterday I did a test drive to a store about a mile away to see how I could drive. I was in tears when I got there because sitting and lifting legs (the pedals) is the most painful part. When I do see my doctor, I will need asking him about surgery. I had a really hard day yesterday, spent a lot of it sobbing, angry and scared. At 10dpo I got a negative test again, but was able to take pain pills. If I am pregnant, the choice is made and I will have to live with it. If Im not....I can get surgery. Major spine surgery that takes months to heal from, and what the internet says is 12-24 months recovery before Pregnancy should be attempted. I turn 34 in a few weeks, and this was our 4th cycle trying. We wanted two babies. I'm too young for this :'-( I don't see how I can take care of myself, a child, or my household this way though.

    I'm having a really hard time right now, you guys.
  • jennamae102
    jennamae102 Posts: 179 Member
    Oh @Kirstie155 I am so so so so sorry for what you are going through. That pain sounds incredibly awful, and I hope you are able to see your doctor ASAP to discuss options. You are right though, you have to take care of yourself first and foremost. I hope your hubs is a calming presence and helping you through this. Sending all my positive thoughts your way.
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    @Kirstie155 all the virtual hugs to you! I'm so sorry you have to go through this pain and I hope the doctor can get you in ASAP. If you have to wait a while to continue TTC, your family will be better off when you can function without debilitating pain. The sooner you can get surgery, the sooner it will be over. More hugs (gentle ones)!
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    AF is finally due tomorrow, though technically could be as late as Friday. I tested on Saturday at 10dpo with a first response with negative result but part of me is still holding out hope despite my obvious PMS symptoms and negative test. Trying not to obsess today. Work focus, engage!
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    @Kirstie155 I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this! Lots of hugs and positive thoughts sent your way!
  • SheilAnneSmith
    SheilAnneSmith Posts: 202 Member
    @Kirstie155 So sorry you are having to deal with this all. Thoughts are with you, I hope you're able to get the treatment you need to heal and that everything works out. How frustrating.
  • Alioth
    Alioth Posts: 571 Member
    edited July 2017
    @Kirstie155 Praying for you for pain relief, healing, and peace of mind as well as body
    @pezhed Good luck. :smile:

    So, getting the hang of OPKs still. Having to POS twice a day is a pain in the butt. I'm so bad at it! Lol. Especially if I'm half asleep! I may need to look for a long handled coffee scoop or something better to catch pee with. O is supposed to be tomorrow, but no sign of it. Work has been stressful. I need to hire some new emps since everyone keeps going on vacation. Aaah, this week is flying by!

    So, getting serious about dietary changes to help conception:
    I cut out allergy meds in case it's drying up CM. I am laughing at myself sneezing all over the house and sniffling at work.
    I stopped taking asprin in the afternoon for my achy feet in case that's a problem.
    Making myself drink at least 2 cups of water a day-no diet coke or coffee mid-afternoon.
    I am trying to limit the coffee down to 2 cups a day.
    Trying to take prenatal and fish oil and calcium at dinner in the evening. But it's hard to remember since I eat dinner anytime from 5 pm-10:30pm if at all due to work. If I take the prenatal or fish oil in the morning, it makes me super queasy though.
    Trying the pillow hips elevation thing after BD. It doesn't seem to work well though? Has made for some hilarious moments! :blush:
    So many adjustments!
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    @Kirstie155 any improvement with the pain?
    @Alioth good job making those changes! That is a lot to do in one month and I'm impressed!

    Today I took a test (negative) and promptly placed an order for a BBT thermometer, OPK strips, and What to Expect Before You're Expecting haha. The book was due to an argument the husband and I had this morning when I asked to him to refrain from the sauna and THC consumption until we conceive. He thinks changing lifestyle is going too far until it's been a few months. I think he is resistant at first but ultimately hears my concerns around being proactive. Of course now he wants to order a microscope to perform his own sperm count analysis...sooo...we'll see how this goes ahah. That's what happens when you try to get your scientist husband more engaged in the process I guess.
  • SheilAnneSmith
    SheilAnneSmith Posts: 202 Member
    @Alioth I hadn't even really thought about the allergy medications, I know I checked if they were OK in pregnancy, but didn't consider TTC. I'm allergic to my darn cows, if I forget a dose my eyes itch like something awful. I take a Claritin every morning, I guess if we don't have success it's something I'll have to address. I'll have to either find an alternative or maybe use Pre-seed to compensate. I still get EWCM, so hopefully it doesn't hinder my CM enough to make a difference. I have a annual doctor's appointment on the 25th, perhaps I'll discuss it with her then but hopefully I'll have a BFP before that and it won't matter!

    I'm 6dpo right now, we rocked the efforts this month but I am trying to not think about it so I don't get my hopes up. It kind of puts me in a pessimistic frame of mind, but I'd rather be pleasantly surprised then disappointed. We BD'd 4, 2, 1 days before O, then on O day and 2 days after for good measure. I am hitting the road Friday, headed to the Oregon Coast and won't be home until late Sunday. It should really help me fight temptation to test earlier than I should by not being home. AF is due on the 20th.

    While I avoid testing too early, I'm giving 3 of my cows pregnancy tests tonight. It's pretty cool, they've developed an ELISA test where you can draw blood 28 days after breeding and find out results the same day. It's a lot faster and cheaper than having a vet out to palpate or ultrasound them at 2-3 month bred.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Hi everyone. Thanks for the well wishes. I am doing much better pain wise, icing my back and wearing my brace (plus 4 days in bed) and I am now able to work and drive again. I have an appointment with my spine specialist tomorrow morning, so hoping he can give me a clue why this happened, order another mri or give me another shot in the back. Hoping he doesn't say I need surgery...because this weekend I bawled my eyes out thinking that I'd have to have a fusion (scary, expensive, painful, recovery!) and the consensus on the web is you should delay ttc for a year after a fusion, or it can screw up your hardware. Im in a better headspace today, and not so "this is the end of the world, and my life as I know it." I was also afraid I was pregnant, and unable to take meds, have mri/xrays, surgery, another epidural. I was afraid the pain would only get worse until I gave birth and would be on bedrest during and after the birth. It was a rough few days. Thought about messaging you all a few days ago, but I was really in a bad place...didnt want to bring all you hopeful ladies down! Doing much better now, and really do appreciate you all thinking of me.


    13DPO and spotting. I have taken tests everyday except today (to make sure I could take the meds for pain) on to cycle 5 I suppose. Feeling conflicted about whether or not we should continue to try. BD is hard on the back...

    Good job making all of those changes Liz! I also take my prenatals and fish oil at night, no fishy burps, I just leave the bottles on my night stand and take them before I go to sleep. My nails look amazing! Amanda, your husband sounds awesome! Way to go, taking charge of this process :smile: the extra information is fantastic to have! Are you on Fertility friend yet?
    Shelia-I hope your cows are pregnant, at least someone will be! lol >.< and your timing was fantastic this month, fingers crossed for you!
    I have an appointment with my midwife (is she my midwife if im not pregnant?) on Tuesday. I made this appointment awhile ago in case we weren't pregnant yet, and if we were it could be my confirmation/check in appointment. Sooo wondering if I should keep it with all this other stuff going on, or cancel. We've been trying for 4 months, hubby is 34, Im about to be 34. I want answers if there is a problem asap! Not sure if I should push it back or not. Thoughts?
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    edited July 2017
    Baby dust to everyone!

    @Kirstie155 I hope your appointment with your spine doctor goes well and that you get the relief you need! Also, I'd say keep the appointment with the midwife since you mention wanting answers and wanting to know if there is a problem.
  • Alioth
    Alioth Posts: 571 Member
    @pezhed You are gettin' hard core! Hope the hubs has fun with his microscope.

    @SheilAnneSmith I don't know if allergy meds really matter unless one's CM is really dry. But I thought I'd give it a try. Half a Mucinex a day instead to encourage things. I'm frequently dehydrated b/c of my bad habits. Hope the TWW isn't too bad for you. Have fun with the cows!

    @Kirstie155 Thanks for the encouragement! The fact that you are still focused on encouraging others while dealing with chronic pain is amazing! It's good to hear you are recovering a bit. If you ever do go the fusion/surgery route, I would research your hospital of choice thoroughly. I have two friends who got MRSA in their back from back surgery in the local hospital here. (Case in point why I want to cross state lines if I have to be in a hospital to one with a better rating.)
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Thanks everyone. Surgery is off the table for now, there are other options available to me :)

    My visit with the spine doc last week was actually really disappointing. He told me since we were ttc, he wouldnt do any treatment for me, and didnt even really listen to my concerns about whether ttc right now is the best idea for me.

    He said I had options if I stopped ttc, but when I agreed (we'd only be out one cycle) he said he needed a typed, signed letter from me stating that I am not pregnant and will not continue to try under his care. Hm, weird. Ok, whatever, gimme a waiver and I'll sign it and get my appointment....Nope, he wont take it today! I need to really think this over, go home and talk with my husband. Are you effing kidding me? I get angry and leave, upset that he is treating me like a child and not allowing me to make an appointment for treatment. I get to work, type up a letter and fax it in. I call a few minutes later and they say they didnt get it. I call back 2 hours later, still didnt get it. Both times they flat out REFUSE to schedule the appointment for the next procedure until they have this letter. WTF? Like I get it, have me sign a waiver or take a preg test before you do the injection, but WTF you wont let me make an appointment AT ALL until you get this stupid letter (not a formal medical waiver?!) they said they'd call as soon as they got it from the fax (I have fax confirmation) this was Thursday, and its Monday now. I am so done with this doctors office.

    The procedure has to be done while I am in pain. Its a nerve pain diagnosis, they put numbing stuff on nerves that they think are causing the pain. If the injection works, they know where the pain is coming from, and can burn those nerves (a separate injection at a later date) so that Im not in pain anymore. It has to be done while Im hurting...or else they can't diagnose where the pain is coming from. Well, its been 10 days since my back went out on me, and everyday I get better. By the time I get scheduled I dont think I'll be in pain anymore. FW starts again this weekend. Im not going to stop trying if I dont have this on the schedule, bc who knows when it will go out again? UGH so frustrated!!

    In other news, did some laundry, vacuumed, swept, and put some polyurethane on some shelves Saturday...and that was it! With loads of breaks in between each activity. Yesterday I was so lazy, and watched FIVE lifetime movies in a row. I feel guilty for being so lazy, but hubby encouraged me to just take it easy :) Really hoping to get back to walking this week, and getting back to normal.
  • Alioth
    Alioth Posts: 571 Member
    @Kirstie155 Wow. Sorry this was all so frustrating. Glad you're feeling better and better in spite of these loons!
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    @Kirstie155 that sounds BEYOND frustrating to deal with! Good luck getting them to confirm an appointment this week, and don't be ashamed of a lazy day. We all need those every now and then.

    I am feeling so hopeless regarding TTC. Today is cycle day 39, and until now, 35 days had been my longest cycle--but only one in the past 5 months had been that long. If I O'd when I think I did, not having my period makes no sense, at least when coupled with all of my negative pregnancy tests. I just want my next cycle to start so I can start doing all the things I planned for TTC. My husband thinks I'm pregnant which is making me feel extra bad. I can't imagine that so many HPTs could be falsely negative. I'm annoyed that my body is doing this to me.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Ugh Amanda, I cant imagine having 39 day cycles! That totally sucks, having to wait so long to try again. Hang in there, this cant last forever!
  • SheilAnneSmith
    SheilAnneSmith Posts: 202 Member
    Two of the cows are confirmed pregnant at least, but 2 more to check this week! One I'm waiting on showed some signs of not being pregnant while I was out of town and too far way to breed her again. So, until I draw blood Wednesday on her I'm stressing more about her impending pregnancy than mine...okay, that's a lie. I'm losing my mind over waiting for a sure answer to both.

    I should be about 11dpo, tested this morning and BFN. I don't even know where my brain is at, my gut feeling is that we aren't pregnant and I'm trying to start looking towards the next cycle. I noticed the tiniest of spotting this morning when checking cervical position, makes me think AF might be on the early side this month, it's shown up at 25 days before so not a surprise, it's usually more like 26-27 days. I'm planning to start tracking BBT this coming cycle.

    Sorry you're having issues with the doctors @Kirstie155. I hate stupid crap like that and doctors seem to be the worst. I feel like they are so often rude, dense and have no lick of common sense. I am glad your back is feeling better at the moment though.

    On that note....I am pretty anxious about the annual doctors appointment I have scheduled for the 25th. I need to talk to her about TTC, but after bad experiences with the last doctor I had being rude and unprofessional, I don't have much trust in telling any doctor anything. Story is with the last one that: I was switching from a combo birth-control pill I tried for a year and didn't like, back to a progesterone only pill which is slightly less effective and has no room for error in taking it and the doctor rudely said something along the lines of, "Well, what if you get pregnant?" in a way that made you feel like it was a horrible thing (I'd been married for 3 years already at that point) or that she was insinuating that I'd want to end a pregnancy if it happened. Then she followed that up with "well, maybe given that your husband is 45, you don't want kids any way." It was super rude and unprofessional, left me so shaking mad. Then I proceeded to have very bad experiences with the whole medical group she worked for when my mother-in-law was sick and with a workers comp claim with their quick care clinic. They darn near have a monopoly on health care options in our town, but I was able to find a small place independent of them and switched a year ago, but I've only seen this new doctor once and don't have a good feel for her yet. She seemed nice last year, but it was a super quick visit and we didn't get into much beyond the bare minimum to renew my birth-control prescription. I hope she's not condescending about weight still higher than it should be or my husbands age and is willing to help me make a game plan for future if things are slow to happen.

    Sorry for the long post, it feels good to get out worries in the open and since I switched jobs last year I don't have the close friends from the old job around that I can talk to about these things.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    @Kirstie155 I'm sorry that your doctor's office is incredibly frustrating but I am glad to hear that at least there are other options for you besides surgery! Also, don't feel guilty, with everything going on you need a rest day! I hope you enjoyed all the movies! =)
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    @SheilAnneSmith that doctor sounds so crummy! I hope your new doc ends up being nicer. It sounds like she might be! Fingers crossed for you!

    AF showed finally in the middle of the day today. I'm so relieved to know what's going on and looking forward to the next cycle of trying and, yes Kirstie, using Fertility Friend! BBT thermometer is on the nightstand ready to go starting tomorrow!
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Sheila, that sucks that you feel like you dont have options for doctors :/ living in traffic central DC metro, I have tons of options. I hope you like your other doctor better-and yay for the pregnant cows!

    Thanks Kayla! Got back to walking yesterday, and it felt pretty good. I am also writing a "pain diary" to help me figure out what causes more pain, and what relieves it.

    Amanda, sorry to hear about your period :/ but now you can start your next cycle, and try again! Yay for FF! Temping takes some getting used to, so just keep that in mind. My first week I kept forgetting to use it, and my temps were all over the place because of that. It takes awhile, but you'll get used to it :)

    FW is expected for this weekend! My college girlfriend is coming to visit...so I guess it will either be sex everyday planned, or more relaxed and just see what happens. Hubby has issues with completion when drinking, and we always have some when we have friends over!
  • SheilAnneSmith
    SheilAnneSmith Posts: 202 Member
    Well, I'm out. I'm quite sure it's more than spotting and AF is here a couple days early.

    I'm going to add in BBT tracking in this month as well. Looks like with the shift in days, only 1 of our attempts was actually before ovulation, oops. At least we are well practiced!
  • pezhed
    pezhed Posts: 885 Member
    @Kirstie155 thanks for the heads up on temping! Hopefully it won't take too long to get used to it. It felt good to track my first temp this morning but I was so paranoid about even moving to get the thermometer from the night stand. That's too bad about the timing of your friend's visit, but hopefully you can get some successful attempts in. Morning sex is good too if alcohol dampens things at night!

    @SheilAnneSmith Sorry you got your period too. Hopefully you can nail the timing down this cycle!
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