2021 One day, or today. You decide

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  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,472 Member
    Happy New Year everyone and sorry for not checking in earlier! Thank you all for thinking about me and for checking I was OK!

    Things are just awful here in the UK and I've felt so stressed with it all. I am terrified at work. You have probably heard we have a new more infectious strain, so it's not even clear how much the vaccine will work - however I have had one dose! But don't know if/when I'll be getting a second dose. I'm feeling quite isolated, to be honest. And of course have been comfort eating!! Which doesn't help! I had actually been pretty good through the pandemic at exercising, did gain weight at the beginning but had lost it. I think it's the fear and stress - which is no excuse, but just a reason.

    So lovely that you can still see your granddaughter, Suzy!

    It has been cold here too, but not as cold as with you, Snoozie! But I haven't been out much for a few days as it's seriously icy. Lots of people have had falls and I almost did a couple of times. Today it's just sleet.

    Good to see you logging. I need to do something and get to grips with it! Unfortunately, practically nothing I buy comes in packets so no bar codes to make it easy. I will need to make a plan .... but will start right now by eating more veg and less of other things and I will try to avoid snacking in the evening! I did the 800 calorie a day diet last year and that did work very well.
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Vail, don’t be down on yourself for stress eating. My gosh! Just look at what you’re going through. I’m so sorry you’re feeling isolated but it’s totally understandable. How is your son? Can you FaceTime or zoom with him? I’m up for a group zoom if y’all want to branch out. Just let me know! We’re all thinking of you and sending hugs!
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    edited January 2021
    Here’s a pic of who I’m hanging out with today. I hope it makes you smile.
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    She has discovered how to stick out her tongue. Lol
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Morning!!

    oh my gosh Suzy... what a sweetie!!! Sticking out your tongue is a valuable skill when you're a kid it will serve her well for a long time LOL..

    I just saw your post OMG CONGRATULATIONS on your weight loss this week... well done YOU!
    i HOPE you are doing the happy dance with your little grand daughter right now.. excellent work on your part and great results!!!

    Vail - yes I've been watching things around the world and have seen how bad your country is..ours is getting wildly out of control here too now, over 4K new cases every day and even tho i've been staying home for months im still scared when i HAVE to go out.. they are even considering a curfew now and i'm so frustrated at all the morons who are keeipng this virus spreading around the world. I'm very glad you have had at least one dose of the vaccine and fingers crossed they have scheduled you for the 2nd within the recommended time frame (i think its around 3-4 weeks?)

    As for the isolation.. I can totally relate. I am lucky that 2 of my friends have started the virtual wine therapy chats once a week for me.. but truth be told... as much as i crave the human contact, sometimes its hard because they are not following the rules - they think if they "only" go see their sister or their daughter its ok.. we are in the "same household only" mode since November) and sometimes listening to them, its hard to keep my face from showing how i feel hearing about the visits. They aren't holding the big gatherings but they seem to think they can "bargain" with the virus and just do "one or two" people outside.. well if all 14 million of us ALL think that... it explains the insane rise in numbers, right??

    So between the feelings of isolation, anger at those breaking the rules, frustration at being kept at home because of them, yada yada.... there are moments i think im gonna lose my mind. And that's when i turn to the bag of chips or plates of nachos etc.. so yup its a vicious circle.

    As you know i have always found the logging to be a huge PITA; being able to scan is the only thing that makes it bearable but like you i have a lot that cant be scanned. I know you mentioned before that you kept a food journal - maybe that would work better for you than trying to log or at least be less frustrating, but still give you the picture so to speak.

    I follow a webinar thing on FB called My Weight what to know, it's a live event every few weeks and they had a psychologist on there talking about how our frontal lobe responds to stress by kicking the "caveman" gene up a few notches.,, survival mode has us reaching for those comfort foods to soothe us, but the after effects when we do add MORE stress (we feel guilty for eating those chips or cookies or pizza or whatever) AND the frontal lobe stays engaged constantly pushing us to survive whatever is stressing us out.. so she was saying while we do have to take some personal responsibility for our actions, we also have to be KIND to ourselves during these unprecedented times.. (as Suzy said above).

    So your decision to increase your veg and work on your evening boredom grazing (me too btw) seems to me like an excellent idea - and will give you a specific goal which will in turn give you a bit of control in a world where we have very little...

    So I say a group hug is in order lol... it's good to know we're all here for each other !!!

  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,472 Member
    Group hug!

    Gorgeous picture, Suzy, and yes, it did make me smile! Thank goodness for babies in all of this. They don't seem to be so badly affected and are just getting on with their job of bringing joy!

    A group Zoom would be fantastic, if we could ever co-ordinate it!

    I do have some contact with people on Zoom/Skype, and actually although it's not the same as face to face, it's a good substitute. Even phone calls are good. I think I partly feel isolated due to not knowing anybody in my specific situation (of being particularly vulnerable and in a risky job).

    As I'm living alone, I'm allowed to "bubble" with one other household, which has been fantastic as it means I can see my son! He is working on a covid ward, so I'm being careful, but it's good to know it's within the rules. Technically we are the same household and so could get close and hug, etc., but we're not doing that because of the risk. But it's nice to be in his presence at times, lol!

    Thanks for the advice on comfort eating, Snoozie. It helps to understand it. I'm finding it's not even boredom, it tends to be late at night and feels a bit compulsive to be honest. I feel on edge until I do it. The survival thing makes sense. It's as if I feel something bad will happen if I don't eat. I'm wondering now if it's almost related to a winter SAD type thing, as it's last thing at night, as if I'm eating before hibernating! Which reminds me that I bought one of those SAD light boxes - I will put it on right now! Maybe the answer is going to be the old trick of going to bed a bit earlier to avoid that danger point!
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Vail - i'm so glad you get to bubble with your son!! We are allowed to hook up with another family if solo as well, but all my friends have big families lol ... so there's no room at the inn!

    One of my good friends who is being super careful like me and following the rules (we met before Christmas in the parking lot of a train station in our cars so we could stay apart and still yap) has suggested a walk next week if the snow holds off... they recently opened a golf course near us as a trial run over the winter and as you're walking on the course itself, there is ample space to keep well apart to walk (most trails are too narrow to be able to do it) so i'm looking forward to that.. i'm tired of my own company!!

    i found your comment about the compulsion and being on edge if you dont eat intersting for sure because im trying to wean myself off potato chips.. it may sound goofy but during this pandemic i have literally been eating a large bag almost every day... (yup i'm admitting that here and now)... and if i dont have any in the house, i start feeling twitchy and on edge.. almost like an addiction. I actually went almost a week without any, and then i thought ok i can buy them and just have them here.. knowing that should be enough. But no... sigh.. i ate the damn thing. So i know i can't have them in the house... but i dunno how to deal with the twitches except to go cold turkey... i decided i was going to allow myself a bag a week.. so technically i guess that was my bag for week one... uh huh.

    anyway i hope the SAD light box works!!
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Thanks for the congrats Snoozie. I can’t imagine how many calories I must have been eating before for me to be able to show a loss now. The logging really is helping me to make some better choices though.

    When you know that you have some availability for a zoom let us know, Vail. I’m on the Eastern time zone so I think that’s five hours behind you? I think it would be awesome to put some faces with names. I think I’ve been chatting with y’all online for five or six years now! Wow!

    I’m so glad you get to see your son, Vail. It’s got to be scary for you in your job but also as a mom with him working with COVID patients. They’re telling us that the current vaccine is effective for the new strain. I certainly hope it is. Stay vigilant!

    As far as the nighttime eating? I’ve started getting in bed early and reading. I’m lazy enough that I won’t get up and walk to the kitchen and I won’t eat in bed because...eeewww. Lol. Yesterday I was so hungry and it wasn’t time for dinner so I had a hot cup of chai tea. It seemed to help. I’m worried that the eating before bed will become a habit for you and we all know that habits are hard to break. Maybe a new nighttime routine? I’d tell you to choose veggies instead but let’s be realistic, that’s not what your brain wants. I hope the light helps.
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    edited January 2021
    Ugh! I’ve been hungry all day! I just want to eat everything in sight! Nothing seems to help. Maybe I’ll try the hot cuppa again. This is ridiculous.


    ***Update*** Four hours later and I freely admit to completely blowing my calories today. Oh well. Today apparently was not THE day. I’m not going to let it get me down. I’m back on it tomorrow. The only good thing is that I did log every bit of it. I need to figure out a way to handle hunger days though.

  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Morning.. I'm still on my first coffee so i don't know how coherent this will be lol..

    Suzy omg... that was so ME last night!! (ALTHO it was the night before i ate my way thru the kitchen)..

    but last night I was actually on track to hit my calorie goal for the very first time; i logged my day in the morning and when i saw my plan i was like omg.. 1474 cals.. (my daily one is set to 1400). So i went into the day pumped.. i stuck to the plan and i even got in a lovely long walk and had a nice dinner.. and even had my cookie after dinner as planned.. i was feeling pretty smug by then..

    By 8pm i was peeling an orange.. by 830 I was rooting thru the cupboards desperately looking for SOMETHING.. but there was nothing junky.. i SWEAR i opened every cupboard at least 3 times, moving cans rummaging around.. i had some tortilla chips but that wasn't going to cut it... i was like a SEAL on a mission.. and i was getting angrier by the minute when i couldnt find anything!! i even opened the freezer - and my eyes darted to some chicken wings left from my NYE feed.. it was probably around 930 then.. i started calculating how long to pre heat the oven, how long they would take to cook, yada yada... and it was too much WORK to make those.. i shook out a handful of chocolate chips while i rummaged some more..

    i finally gave up around 10 and sat and pouted on the couch... and the fire alarm went off in the building LOLOL.. WHICH just annoyed me even more because it went on and on and on and the concierge kept coming on the speaker yelling "attention..attention...attention.." (which they always do updating the fire dept is on the way etc.. our alarms go off frequently btw) anyway.. after listening to the ear splitting horn in my unit for almost 40 min i was so crazed i wanted to pop those wings in and add some spring rolls and other crap still in the freezer lol... seriously ... but i was too tired by then so i just went to bed...hungry and angry LOL..

    But I was hungry a few times yesterday .. i honestly think its because my tummy is used to so much more food coming in - so im just gonna have to get used to being a bit hungry now and then... i also realized im going to have to make sure i have some quick and healthier snacks like veg and dip or a small chunk of cheese on hand to keep me from hitting starving before meals - because thats something else i notice.. when i'm starving i of course eat a lot more, gulping it so fast because im starved and i just keep gulping without thinking about am i full - i am like the energizer bunny in a bad way.. i jsut keep going and going lol.

    But then i hopped on the scale this morning and was down a little for the first time in a long time - so i decided for me i'm going to do the check in anytime i lose rather than once a week.. i think im going to need seeing that to stay consistent and keep me positive..

    So Suz.. remember one day is just like one tree in a forest.. and since weigh loss is linear one day won't derail you from this week, or next week or this month.. we're doing so much better than we have over the past year right now and we're making progress, and that's what we're looking for right?? Not perfection just progress!! hugs
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    P.S. that same shrink that was talking about the frontal lobe reacting to stress by kicking up our "need to eat" mode..

    She also mentioned that even thinking about what to make every day can be a stressor (ya big surprise) lol. but one way to avoid some of it was to have a morning routine where you have the same thing every morning for breakfast - it takes the stress of trying to think about what to have off the table..

    only problem with that is, im not one of those people who can have the same thing every day lol.. but right now??? I'm hungry and i'm wandering around wondering what to have for breakfast LOL.. and i AM stressing!! ha..
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Oh Snoozie, the picture you paint of your mad dash looking for snackies! Lol. I don’t mind being hungry but yesterday it was just that big black hole of hunger. I think you’re right and my stomach is trying to get used to less food. I also figured out that I wasn’t keeping busy so I had nothing to occupy my mind. Today is going better.

    I am one of those people who can eat basically the same thing every day for breakfast and even lunch. I like not having to think about it. I hate thinking about food all the time. Will we ever get to the day where it’s just not that important anymore?
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    I had a sort of epiphany this morning when I stepped on the scale. I completely wasted two days on my good health journey with mindless eating. This morning I’m almost back to where I was Friday morning. Mentally, when I show a loss and record it I have this feeling like I can splurge a bit because I’m not recording my weight again for another week. Then I spend two or more days just trying to get back to where I was before I can start making progress again. I’m sabotaging myself every time. So, I’m thinking that I need to record my weight every other day or something like that. Not give myself time to “celebrate” a loss in an unhealthy way and then have to recover from it. What do y’all think? Do you ever have this issue?
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Suzy.. i am absolutely the same with the self sabotage.. as soon as i see a loss my head says reward yourself .. with crap... ????? it makes NO sense at all why i do it.. logically you would think showing a loss would spur me to keep doing well and being on track... but emotionally for whatever reason i still think that..

    I think i need to remember that saying about dont reward yourself with food if you're not a dog!!

    I was reading a bit about the self sabotaging.. seems we aren't alone and there are a myriad of reasons we all do it and most of us have different ones, but some that seem the most common bouncing around in our brains are not having changed some old bad habits to new ones, not feeling worthy of the weight loss, struggling with delayed gratification when it comes to food yada yada.. i don't know the exact reason i do it and im not sure i wanna dig deep enough to find out to be honest lol.. but i do know that if it's just a habit, i can change it..

    so i'm glad you posted that... the next time I find myself about to sabotage my loss, I am going to try to remind myself.. its just a habit and one i need to break.. it's worth a shot anyway cause i'd much prefer to think it's just a bad habit i can change than to pay for a shrink to find out why LOL...

    I DO hop on the scale every other day at least.. precisely for that reason - to keep me focused on remember my goal is to LOSE weight.. and for me checking every other day helps me see i'm doing ok or straying...




  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,472 Member
    Thank you for the advice, both of you. You are so right about habits, Suzy. Although it's not even a habit so much as a compulsion ... I'm not sure what's going on psychologically except that I'm stressed. Maybe just that craving for short term reward, and the evening is when I'm most tired and less able to resist.

    Thank you for your confession about the crisps and rooting through the cupboards, Snoozie - it makes me feel better! That is so like me at the moment! Yes, I bought treats with the idea of rationing too. I'm all for having the odd treat. But not good if you're feeling the way I am at the moment! I don't seem to be able to resist and ration it! I did try putting the treats in a different room, jus so that it's more of an active decision to go and get them. That used to work, but now I find myself making that active decision every night, lol. Or I won't get treats, but I will make a snack, either way I'm eating.

    So annoying because I've managed in the past with this, and even recently was losing weight. I've got out some recipe books and have been making healthy, nutritious meals. But it doesn't stop me wanting to eat too much!
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Just a quick note but Vail I had to laugh when you said you put them in a different room - I actually put the bags of potato chips in a closed armoire in my sunroom so I couldn’t see them thinking that would help and no it did not ...be back in a bit From computer easier to type
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Oh the games we play when trying to keep ourselves from snacking! I had ordered some Dutch food from a catalog back in December and had completely forgotten about it. We lived in the Netherlands for a couple years and fell in love with some of their treats. Well....it arrived yesterday. Surprise! We now have the most delicious aged Gouda and almond cakes and snack crackers. Those almond cakes were actually calling my name last night. Loudly! I ate three of them yesterday. THREE! Two of them were late night snacking. So I totally understand where y’all are coming from. If it’s in the house, I’m eating it.

    I’m taking my dad to get his Covid vaccination tomorrow. I’m really hoping they are organized and we can get in and out but I’m not very optimistic. It will most likely be May before I’m eligible for it. My mom’s appointment is next week. My daughter is convinced that she has it even though she tested negative. Her school told her to quarantine anyway so she’s home until next Tuesday. She’s been pretty sick since last Friday but is feeling a bit better today.

    I went back to the foot doctor yesterday. I’m so tired of my foot hurting. She gave me another cortisone shot and I’m supposed to stay off it as much as possible for the next two to four weeks, depending on how it feels. No walks more than 15 minutes at a time. I’m to wear this little splint thing except for when I’m asleep. If this doesn’t work then she said the next step is surgery and I’m not a fan of that idea. I absolutely know that losing weight is the key for my foot and my knees. Why isn’t that important enough of a reason for me to stop eating? I’ve got to keep TODAY in mind, not someday.
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    I’ve not met my calorie goal even once in the past week. Obviously I chose “one day” instead of “today” this entire week. That changes now. I CAN do this!
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    waving a quick wave...as I run out the door to go home! Stay well everyone!
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,472 Member
    Waving back! Looks like you are busy! Hope you're finding some me time, and managing to keep safe.

    Suzy, I love a good aged Gouda. I think because it's so flavourful you eat less, or at least that's my theory until I start eating and can't stop! I also visited a local cheesemonger yesterday and picked up a couple of yummy cheeses. I'm trying to remind myself if I'm going to eat cheese I need to be eating less of other things, lol!

    I hope your daughter is better soon. There are some false negatives with the tests, so she could well have had it. Good news about your dad getting an appointment. I was extremely lucky to get mine so early on - I was due to have one soon anyway as a frontline health worker, but I think I got it early because a batch had been defrosted and needed to be used up that day. Unfortunately our second doses have been postponed, but I'm thinking we still probably have some protection.

    You must be so frustrated with your foot. I hope the splint sorts it out. It feels like it has been going for ages now! It's true about losing weight being so good for you, but it's just so difficult to do! I know perfectly well that the best things I could do for my health is lose weight and exercise, but I'm so half-hearted at both!

    Anyway, I'll try to keep "one day or today" in my mind. I think part of my problem is that I think it's OK if I slip up today as long as I'm back on it tomorrow, lol! I'm going to try turning it round and trying to think that if I stick with it today then I'm banking a slip-up for tomorrow, if needed.

  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    sorry i couldnt come back.. i overdid the exercise thing with some overhead presses and ended up messing up both shoulders.. could barely move my arms yesterday but today have better range of motion so hopefully fine by tomorrow.. stupid move on my part tho

    Suzy i really hope the shot and splint and STAYING OFF your foot will fix it so you can avoid surgery!! im glad your parents are getting the shot; and hope to god your daughter is recovering well whether it was COVID or something else...

    we are now in a stay at home order since yesterday - altho frankly we've been in supposed lockdown since November but sure as hell didnt seem like anyone was doing it.. even with the SAH ORDER there is no enforcement and no consequences, unless its a private party being held or a business caught with too many people - and as long as there are no consequences people will just keep being stupid. But I can't control that so i try not to let the anger and frustration build up too much.

    Vail im glad you were able to get your shot.. i think there may be a prob here with the 2nd dose happening within the allotted 3-4 week time frame? They have said that about 21 days AFTER your first dose, you are pretty good for immunity but 2nd dose is vital .. at first they were holding back vaccines here to ensure everyone who got the 1st could get the 2nd within the set time, but then decided better to give everyone 1 shot at least.. so am hopeful as the vaccines keep coming in they will be able to do the 2nd within the time frame for everyone

    its kinda a miracle i think tho.. that we actually have a vaccine already... I was just thinking yesterday i can't believe it's been a year since we first went into lockdown.. an entire year.. and its worse now than then... seems sometimes its just not real.. but the fact we do have a vaccine in such a short time is truly miraculous when you think about it..

    I haven't logged the past few days because of my shoulder and because i've basically been living on toast and pb.. but i havent been eating a lot of crap just because i dont have any at hte moment lol... and i have told myself getting some isnt an essential trip - i will wait til when i have to go get something for real and hopefully by then.. i wont want it anymore.

    My goal is for 4 lbs a month.. which is 1lb a week.. i think my focus is also going to have to be on just eating less of whatever it is... im still eating a LOT in a day .. whether healthy or not... so thats one good thing about the logging is being able to see that.. and hopefully will help me see i just need to eat less.. i would normlaly be playing pickleball a few times a week over the winter and doing 2 classes a week - and i was just holding at my weight when i was doing that... so figures that if im eating the same amount and not moving.. its going up.

    so that's what i'm going to try to focus on for a bit.. the "are you really hungry or just bored" idea... because frankly the answer most times right now is i'm bored out of my mind lol

    hang in there guys.. let's remember that we need to be kind to ourselves no matter what.. we got enough stress going on so no recriminations - while keeping in mind our goals and what we want to get for ourselves .. hugs all around



  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Yep, eating more and moving less seems to be my norm now. I’m definitely more aware of how much I’m eating and I’ve cut down a lot. I would have been fine if I hadn’t gotten that darn package of treats. Lol. I’m still trying to stay busy to deal with the eating because I’m bored trap that I fell into over the weekend. Today I’m tackling bathroom cupboards that have been neglected for years. Y’all wouldn’t believe how much junk we’ve accumulated in there. I’m feeling more focused today on eating less and healthier.

    Having a vaccine so soon really is incredible. I’m just hoping that it works as well as they say. It’s also kind of scary because of the lack of experience with it but we need help. This isn’t just going to go away on its own. I hope your second dose is available soon, Vail. Also that people wise up and actually Stay At Home, Snoozie.

  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    Just checking in, Hatters.

    How’s the shoulder, Snoozie?

    How’s the late night snacking going? Any better for everyone? I’ve started just getting into bed early and reading to stop me from wandering into the kitchen. I’m still not meeting my calorie goal every day but it’s getting better.

    I hope things are leveling off or even getting better at work for you, Gail and Vail.

    Hang in there everyone! Sending virtual hugs!
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    Sorry about your shoulders, Snoozie. It is so frustrating when you do it to yourself.
    I feel that way when I over extend my back while exercising then have to still go to work.

    Suzy , I hope your foot is better with the shot and splint and no surgery needed.
    Mine has been better. Stretching the arch and then using compression boots helped mine. Not sure if we had the same problem or not, but I was told to roll my foot over a frozen bottle of water could help. Haven't tried it yet. I have the frozen bottle, just not the time to think about trying it.

    Vail, glad to see you are okay. It is so hard to stay coped up without the urge to eat showing it's awful face. If I am stuck inside , it's all I do. I ramble in and out of the kitchen getting a bite of this and then a bite of that trying to find what it is that I am wanting. Never succeeding cause I'm not hungry at all ......just BORED! lol

    The Scale was nice to me today....must have gotten tired of hearing me swear at it.... 2 lbs down......if I can HOLD ONTO IT...I need to lose 3lbs more to be at the very least back under 200 lbs. I have been trying soooo hard to curb my nighttime eating after getting off at midnight. If I can keep it up it may be promising, fingers crossed xx


    take care everyone.
    G
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    morning all

    Gail glad to hear all is well in your world and huge congrats on the loss! i have no doubt you will get those additional 3 gone soon! I can totally relate to the bored eating, believe me!

    Suzy also hope your foot is responding to the treatment; I wish i could motivate myself to tackle the chores i never got to in the FIRST lockdown lol.. but i still have no interest sadly!

    i've been struggling the past week with the shoulder issues but i think now it actually stems from my neck because one day its the left shoulder/arm i can't move.. the next day its the right.. yada yada... i know at some point there were some issues with discs in my neck and i've been spending a lot of time at my laptop, which i know from my working days - the "turtling" of my neck happens the longer i'm on it..

    Our family fitness challenge is going well but its a lot of work keeping everyone motivated and coming up with different themes and keeping them engaged and interested lol.. but its not like i have anything else to do .. the funny thing is i've been googling a lot about fitness challenges and fun fitness stuff for seniors (my aunt is 74) .. and so the data mining gods are responding with ads all over the place for all kinds of stuff for seniors ... no matter what screen i'm on theres an ad there for either fitness or seniors, and my FB feed has all these suggested posts from fitness places - where everyone is 19 and climbing mountains lol.. so i either feel old and decrepit with the young uns, or resenting everything telling me i'm a senior hahah..

    I've been doing better with the boredom crap eating simply because i dont have anything in the house right now... i'm trying to go cold turkey with the chips... i have no control at all if they are here and while it sounds funny, its scary in a way just how many i was eating!! so my plan to wean myself off wasnt working so its cold turkey time now lol.. I think its been 5 days now without - not that i'm actually counting ive just not bought any

    on that note.. remember earlier i said i ran across some thoughts on why we self sabotage when we're doing good... and one of them was that we havent ditched some bad habits.. i started thinking about that.. and its kinda true for me in different ways.. one example.. every time i have a tuna sandwich, i HAVE to have chips on the side.. i've done that since i was a kid and my dad would serve it that way.. so habit wise.. if i think i should have tuna for lunch.. if i dont have chips in the house, i automatically change my mind... same goes for the evening boredom eats..like clockwork around 730 or 8 i start grazing... not of of any kind of hunger as we know.. but it has honestly become a habit.. a few other things have since come to mind that i realize contribute to my sabotage; because its become a habit too as soon as the scale makes a move, it's habit to "reward" myself with a treat... hmmm

    anyway.. im looking into this a bit more for myself.. i got a book online from the library called atomic changes.. tiny changes, remarkable results. Its pretty boring LOL.. but i'm flipping thru it and some of the ideas are interesting; about how with enough practice, our brains will pick up cues that predict certain outcomes without even consciously thinking about it..


    and how once habits become automatic, we stop paying attention to them. so you need to be aware of your habits before you can change them.. So more about not focusing on goals, but focusing on changing bad habits that are keeping you from reaching that goal (i.e. if its weight loss or fitness or businesss or whatever)

    Anyway.. there are some interesting points - one being you don't need to change the behaviour to start... the first step is just to be on the lookout for them...

    its about just simply becoming aware of bad habits... and it can help to speak a bad habit out loud when you become aware of it.. .. like if you go grazing at 8pm out of habit... and take a cookie... just saying out loud.. "im about to eat this cookie but i dont need it. Eating it will cause me to gain weight" reinforces that the grazing its just habit .. theres no judgement, its just recongizing that some actions with food responses are just habit.. (it doesnt mean you won't still eat the cookie lol) but by becoming more aware of what are just habits.. you can start to change the behaviour..

    Anyway its something to do lol.... cause unlike suzy i am not motivated to clean hahaha..
    I have been eating better but the scale isnt moving at all... thats ok tho.. i know my portions are still too big even if healthier so it will catch up :)

    Right now that i've bored everyone to sleep - i got nothing else lol... i AM enjoying the videos from that seniors site i posted Suzy..there are all kinds of different ones she does on there, i did a barre one yesterday for the first time .. it was nice to try and i was able to do it and good to try something different... and thAT one involves both stretch and strength training so i get 2 in 1 LOLOL... but our family challenge i'm running has helped me too get used to doing some exercise every day... so that's a habit i want to keep doing for myself.. its not like i dont have time these days.. sigh..

    hugs all around .. we have to believe better times are ahead so just keep hanging in and know we're all here for each other!!
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    You can do it, Gail! Two pound loss is awesome! Well done! I’m sure you’ll get that three pounds off in no time. What a great feeling it will be to be back under 200! Focus on that when your late night munchies hit. Getting off work at midnight has got to be so challenging.

    Snoozie, I’m hoping the videos you’re doing will help with your neck/shoulders. I’ve had excruciating neck pain before because of extremely tight muscles and sitting at an awkward angle for long lengths of time. It’s no joke. I recommend getting a tennis ball and putting it in the toe of a long sock. Then you place it behind your neck/upper back where it’s really sore. Hold onto the top of the sock to keep it in place and then lean against a wall to give yourself a deep massage in that tight muscle. It really does help.

    Bad habits and emotional eating are what got me into this shape. I’m going to really try to analyze why I’m eating to see how much is habit and/or comfort and how much is hunger. Have any of you looked at Noom or know anyone who has? I’m wondering what it really is. I’m thinking it’s kind of what you’re talking about with habit awareness. I just know I don’t want to spend the money. Lol.

    My husband’s family is planning an April 10 memorial service for his mom. It will be outside at the graveside but we would still have to travel to get there. It’s twelve hours by car and we do it in two days or we fly. I’m wondering what things are going to be like by then. Maybe we will all have our vaccinations by April?
  • Time2LoseWeightNOW
    Time2LoseWeightNOW Posts: 1,730 Member
    I know Snoozie! ....a sandwich is so lonely all by itself!! Can you stomach pork skins? no carbs

    oooohhh...air travel... I don't know...to close for comfort.


    scal es showed .02 loss lol I will take it! at least not a gain.

    The outloud reasoning before eating sounds like it could work.

    Stay well all!!
    G
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    Suzy i don't know ALL that much about noom - except that it's basically the same idea - its teaching you to replace bad habits with good ones.

    you still have to log your food, weigh yourself and check in with your group; the idea behind the whole thing is to teach you how to figure out your own triggers or cues in things like boredom or stress eating, etc and to make you aware of \w'hat you are eating by using color codes, i.e., when you log a meal it will assign green yellow or red codes to what you ate.. the idea being green is better and that seeing a lot of red will make you aware of just how much "red" you are consuming in a day.. and also supposed to make you aware of what treats are actually "worthy" for you - so you can still have treats, but you have to differentiate ones that are just "so so" to you, and one that is "i love this i must have it".

    so for me.. not worth forking over money for what i pretty much already know.... but like any other plan, it may be the right thing for you and obviously has worked for many..

    TY for the tennis ball sock thing.. i actually have a lacrosse ball my physio had me get (its not as squishy as a tennis ball i gather) and im supposed to use it everywhere with the pressure thing on the muscles - til it doesnt hurt any more.. the problem is at first it hurts like hell of course... so i kinda gave up on it... but i may give it another go with the sock... they didnt tell me about that part and the ball often drops on me lol... so ty for that



  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    I think I’m having sympathy pains for you, Snoozie. I woke up with a painful neck. Lol. Probably slept wrong.
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,464 Member
    while i appreciate the "support" Suzy - thats not the area i want it in!! So sorry about your neck... ow ow ow!!
  • suzyqholland
    suzyqholland Posts: 1,371 Member
    How is everyone doing? Staying safe and healthy, I hope. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t get bored and mindlessly eat. I take a few days off from cleaning and work on my parent’s scrapbook. I was completely lazy one day and binge watched Bridgerton on Netflix. That day I definitely went over my calorie goal. It proved to me that when I’m not busy, I eat out of habit and boredom. So the habit I need to change is being idle.

    How’s your neck/shoulder pain, Snoozie? I hope it’s better.

    Big hugs all around Hatters! Take care!