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@rachietuk I know how you feel, exactly....I keep in mind what I am going for...a healthy BF% and a smokin body. As the little muscles show themselves I am reminded that if I don't eat enough or burn too much those little bundles of joy I have worked so hard to maintain will get weak and sad looking. I try to remember that I started this book for a reason, keep at it because in the long run, you will come out the victor...
edit to say, that I don't think it is a competion between friends, but your body will be stronger, faster and leaner0 -
Hey everyone...so, I did a spin class today and am looking forward to wrapping up stage two tomorrow. How strict are you guys about the 48 hour thing? I worked out at 5p on Sunday, but I want to workout at 5a tomorrow.
So, I decided to wait to lift until tomorrow. Today I did an interval workout on the treadmill.
Rachie - hang in there! There is a difference between looking good in clothes and looking good out of them. We are going for firm, not just skinny!
Manic - did you and your family love Disney world? We've never been.0 -
lcuconley - just to answer your question anyway: I lift when I can! Ideally I lift M W F, but as my work schedule gets switched SO often it is common that I lift two days in a row. For example, my lifting days this week are Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. I figure I just gotta get it done when I can!
Did Stage 4B3 today. It was all so exhausted for some reason and the reverse lunge from box with forward reach had me panting and I could NOT use my higher weight today! At least I did it! Finishing Stage 4 is only taking me twice as long as it should...
I also have a ten miler in a few weeks that I am not at all feeling prepared for. BUT I bought new workout shoes (yes! another plug for barefoot running!) - I got the Merrell pacers dash glove. lovin them so far, first run in them on Thursday night with the puppy.
Rachie - i totally hear you! Two of my friends just started weight watchers and one of them dropped 5lbs in a week! of course, she wasn't happy when I pointed out it was a lot of water weight. Also, they both are looking noticeably thinner...but they have both been on weight watchers before! so this i weight they have taken off before...which means it will come back again bc they are just on vlcd and not at all paying attention to fueling their bodies (one of them is a long distance runner!)0 -
Snow day here. Tuesdays are my day off from NROL4W and usually too busy to get in any other kind of exercise. But now I have all day available, so I will probably do C25K and introduce an incline so I can prepare for my outdoor 5K next month!
@rachietuk -- I know! Now that I'm three weeks into this and the scale still hasn't really moved, I find myself itching to do something more to make all this weight go away. NOW. But... I love that I can run up my stairs! I run up almost every single time because I still can't believe I can do it without collapsing into a heap! We're clearing out our basement so we can finish it (and set up some free weights, LOL), and I can actually carry HEAVY stuff across the house! I used to just look at something and automatically ask my husband to move it for me. Now I just grab it and go. WHAT?!?! I'd LOVE to be in a size 14 or lower, but I love even more that I can move the d@mn basement around without help. I'm giddy at the thought of being able to help put up the drywall!
@ lcuconley -- my husband is following the body weight program from NerdFitness, but only on weekends. Though this past weekend, he ran instead, then worked on the basement with me. It kills me that he works in the same building as a huge fitness facility that focuses on free weights, but doesn't want to check it out (time, funds). I'm going later this week, since he won't! I think he'll catch the bug soon enough. He might even build me a power cage once we make room for it.
ETA: Oh man!! While I was typing this, my two boys POPPED my exercise ball! They were trying to draw arrows with colored pencils to show which part was the top. Argh! I better go find something to keep them busy while I shower...0 -
Controversial or not, the calories in NROL4W did NOT work for me. I gained weight (fat) through that program. Truly, I was simply eating too many calories. When I dropped the calories down, and continued weight-training 3 x per week, the fat came off.
So, be wary of the "EM2WL" philosophy. Unfortunately, it does NOT work for every BODY....sometimes you have to go back to the basics - calories in v. calories out is THE secret to weight loss. And, lifting weights is THE secret to make sure that the weight you are losing, in a calorie-deficit, is FAT loss (and not muscle loss).
Just sayin'.....0 -
Cphan, I didn't know those were "poppable" ... ha!
Beeps, I hear you on your "controversial" view. For 2 months straight I started eating just about everything back and logging simple walks, etc. and I felt like I was forcing myself to eat just because that's what I "should" be doing. No. I cut everything (workout vs. non workout days) by around 200+ cals and I am feeling more myself and my pants are fitting MUCH better now. I hear you that it isn't for everyone. Do I think people should starve themselves? No. But I also don't think eating a lot works for everyone.
Heyyyyy all! Last night was my second A workout of S3. I love S3. LOVE. It's TOM so I'm headache-y and nothing seems to help but I made it through the workout last night and stuck to my meal plan. I'm hoping I can buck up and get in a 3.5 mile run tonight. The thought of bouncing around with this headache really isn't that pleasant though...0 -
Rachie, I was there all throughout the program. If you are losing inches, you are moving in the right direction. Losing weight the right way can be frustrating. Its much slower than the yo-yo dieting so people don't notice. Remember you CAN drop inches without losing much weight. I have the same measurements that I had when I was 10lbs lighter before I had my 3rd child.
However, I will say that when I stall on weight loss/inches loss, I am eating too much. Like Beeps said, the calories in the book are a guideline. It's great to eat to fuel your workouts and prevent muscle loss and the theory of EM2WL WILL work for everyone, but our bodies all operate differently. If you are frustrated and feel like your progress isn't what you want, try adjusting something (lower cals by 100/day, do a little more light cardio on rest days, make sure you're measuring your food exactly, etc). You have to go by what your body responds to and what makes you feel good. Good luck!
CP, I'm convinced nothing in my house is safe. My kids can ruin ANYTHING!0 -
We go to DW every year. I need a new vacation spot but I am outnumbered. oldest daughter is down there working in the College intern program so we visited her. Planning another trip in May for son's graduation trip and visit daughter too.
Yes, Beeps, we both learned eat more doesn't help. I gained 6 pounds during the program. I love the program, but I am adding more cardio and eating less.
The best compliment I got during the program, a guy walked passed me while I was squatting or deadlifting and said "strongest lady in the gym." :bigsmile: However, I didn't lose weight and my shoulders became wider. I had to increase a shirt size. Hopefully, it evened out my pear shape a little bit.0 -
I did catch up with "Mia" at my gym, yesterday....I would put her in her early 20's, and I caught her, out of the corner of my eye, probably 2 or 3 months ago...doing NROL4W!!
So, whenever I see her at the gym, we usually stop and do a quick "chat" before getting back to our work-outs.
Anyway, yesterday she showed me her Stage 5 progression! She isn't happy having "the body matrix" back, but she was POUNDING OUT THE BIG WEIGHTS because it's only 4 reps. Her one-arm overhead squat was AWESOME! She was using a 15 lb DB on top, a 30 lb DB on the bottom and her squat was SO F'ING DEEP it wasn't even funny.
She looked GREAT!! And, I stopped to TELL HER SO...........0 -
omg @ DW "every year"....there are NO words.
Thankfully, we are in year 2 of a 5-year moratorium on theme-parks. I hope we stretch it to 7 years, actually....0 -
omg @ DW "every year"....there are NO words.
Thankfully, we are in year 2 of a 5-year moratorium on theme-parks. I hope we stretch it to 7 years, actually....
YES :grumble: Don't get me wrong, I love the place too. But going every year and sometimes twice a year like this year, it has lost the magic for me.
Tmi: TOM is here. My plans were to be back in the gym today since I have all bags unpacked and laundry done. The fatigue has been too severe the past 2 days to do anything extra.
OH, update on my back. I've been taking Lodine 2xdaily. ZERO pain in weeks.0 -
Very true. I eat at a high calorie level but it's still my TDEE. Some people lose doing cardio, I'm not one of them. Sometimes experimentation is he only real way o find what works for you.Controversial or not, the calories in NROL4W did NOT work for me. I gained weight (fat) through that program. Truly, I was simply eating too many calories. When I dropped the calories down, and continued weight-training 3 x per week, the fat came off.
So, be wary of the "EM2WL" philosophy. Unfortunately, it does NOT work for every BODY....sometimes you have to go back to the basics - calories in v. calories out is THE secret to weight loss. And, lifting weights is THE secret to make sure that the weight you are losing, in a calorie-deficit, is FAT loss (and not muscle loss).
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I don't know how people do DW every year. The one year nearly killed me. 3,500 for 5 days. It takes my over two years to save that much. I'm sure I could do it cheaper, but where's he fun in that? We LOVE theme parks. Six Flags GA is practically in our back yard, well less than an hour away. This year we will do a quickie vacation to Bush Garden hopefully. time will tell.omg @ DW "every year"....there are NO words.
Thankfully, we are in year 2 of a 5-year moratorium on theme-parks. I hope we stretch it to 7 years, actually....
YES :grumble: Don't get me wrong, I love the place too. But going every year and sometimes twice a year like this year, it has lost the magic for me.
Tmi: TOM is here. My plans were to be back in the gym today since I have all bags unpacked and laundry done. The fatigue has been too severe the past 2 days to do anything extra.
OH, update on my back. I've been taking Lodine 2xdaily. ZERO pain in weeks.0 -
Rach - keep doing what you're doing! I know it must be hard watching your friends drop weight like that. But slow and steady wins the race! I did not follow the New Rules calories. I kept mine at 1550 and ate back exercise calories. I lost weight steadily doing that. I'm still figuring out my TDEE. I don't want to believe it's "only" 1800, but given my age and height, I may have to accept that reality. I don't think I can eat more to weigh less either. So far at 1600-1650/day, I've plateaued. :-/ I found that I lost more JUST doing lifting and not a lot of cardio too, btw.
I go into the office one day a week -Tuesdays - and I was determined to run on my lunch hour today. Packed up all my stuff, left my desk at 11:30 to beat the lunch crowd, got to the gym, and realized I had forgotten my friggin running shoes!! It all worked out though. I ended up running at 7:30pm and because it was getting dark, I ran fast (for me).
I haven't been to DW in YEARS -- since college actually. Have only been there twice in my life. I would love to take my kids, but we haven't been able to afford it. I can see how it could get old every single year though.
TOM here too. I went crazy nuts eating yesterday. Back on track today thankfully.0 -
Cphan - I always do a 1.5 incline on the treadmill. What are you going to do?
Kmsair - I am totally with you on not wanting to believe my TDEE is going to decline as I get "older"...it's just going to keep me going on the workout side, I guess0 -
I'm going to start with a 1.0 incline and try 5 or 10 minutes of running to see how I do. I didn't get a chance to try it today. Do you find that 1.5 translates pretty close to outside running?0
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cphan - that is what I have heard. However, I can run SO much faster on a treadmill, I am not so sure.
great wrap-up to Stage 2 today. I felt really strong. Hopefully, Stage 3 on Friday am. Two kids have basketball tourneys this weekend, so I will be very hard to get to the gym on the weekend.0 -
I've never been to DW
Cphan, I have also heard that about the incline and do it every so often. I think it's more that, very rarely will you run a completely flat run outside so always having a bit of an incline will sort of mimic that. I run quite a bit faster on the treadmill than outside though as well. Also, the pullback is annoying. I'm hoping to start limiting my time on the treadmill once it warms up.
Today I will be doing S3B2. I am really loving this stage! Last night I was supposed to do a 3.5 miler but TOM won big time. Oh well. I do pretty good on most days so I'm not going to let it bug me. I will get back with the running on Thursday. Plus by then my shoes should be in! Then only two weeks to break in shoes and actually train for this race.0 -
Hey, Ladies! Sorry I have been MIA for a while. Still doing Stage 2, but have had quite a bit of personal stuff going on.
I have a question....I did S2A3 last night and felt a pull at the top of my left knee while doing the lunge. Put on some Icyhot before bed and took some Advil. Still feels pretty tight today and a little sore. Has this happened to anyone else? What did you do?
ETA: I felt the pull on the knee that was on the bench, not the leg that lunged.0 -
manic - glad that back pain is done, for you. I had supper last night with a gf who fell, landed on her back, and has been in constant pain since (going on 2 months). She flew to another city, had an MRI, and is going at the end of April to yet ANOTHER city, to have a non-surgical "ozone" treatment and, if that doesn't help her blown disk (it needs to heal...), then she's headed for surgery.
She is a lifter and has been on NO exercise since this happened - doctor's orders! Now, at least, she can walk up the 6 flights of stairs to her office, but that is IT.
I think it would be TERRIBLE to just NOT be permitted to do ANY exercise!!
Anyway, today I lift!0 -
So, May 30 it is. Write that date down. That is the date that I OFFICIALLY leave the "last 10 lbs" club and join "maintenance".
HURRAH.0 -
Woo Hoo. GO BEEPS!! You go this.0
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To all the Stage 3-ers: more power to ya. I hated that stage!! The A workout was cool, but I did. not. like. the B workout.
I'm kind of ready to finish New Rules. Stage 7 is hard and tedious with the zillions of reps. I lifted this morning (6am - woo!) and completed the 4th workout: 2 more to go and I'm DONE (unless I decide to repeat which I probably won't). It's such a short workout, but I'm so tired after I can't do anything else. So the plan is to run tomorrow (4 miles) and lift again on Friday.
jcjs - welcome back. not sure what to say about your knee. I had knee issues during the intial stages, but I think (hope?) my muscles and tendons got tighter or maybe my form got better. For whatever reason, my knees are not bothering me. Hopefully you just pulled something and it'll heal up quickly. Of course if it continues to bother you, see your doctor!
Beeps - Woo hoo for maintenance. You're SO close!0 -
I'm not sure I'm remembering this correctly, but I REALLY liked Stage 3 and Stage 5 of NROL4W...I think it was 2/4 that wasn't my favourite. And, I did do Stage 7, twice....just to see if I could actually "up" my weights in that second go-round. Mind you, I *never* did the 30-sec rests....my heart was pounding and I pretty much was in the 45-60 sec rest club.
I *still* haven't finished Stage 6! I only did 1/2 of that stage (suffered an injury - never went back to Stage 6 and just picked up at Stage 7).
So, what's your plan for post-NROL4W, kmsai??0 -
lb2ll - can't wait to join you in stage 3! I am going to get new shoes soon, but i think I am going to try emgel's advice. I would like to try the barefoot thing for both running and lifting.
kmsai - wow...you are so close!! I hope you hang around like beeps!
Beeps - May 30. got it!!0 -
So, I thought it might be fun to start a question of the day in this group to get to know each other better. I will start with tomorrow's question, but anyone can pose a daily question.
Thursday's question: did you go to college? where?0 -
Holy crap, there's a whole lot here again! I hope I remember everything!
Mary, I would die! Every year? I did Disneyland in CA 1 time and that was more than plenty. But I really glad your back is feeling better!! Yea!
Rachie, I'm 60, and I have a relatively sedentary lifestyle despite lifting 3x/wk. I just don't have time for much more than that so my TDEE is slightly less than 1700 according to Scooby. That's with little exercise. I eat 1500 cals on low exercise non-lifting days and 1800 +/- on lifting days or if I happen to get more exercise in. I have put on 3 pounds or so since starting the program and although everyone tells me that they see a big difference and yes I am in a size smaller pants, I haven't lost loads of inches and I still have a whole lot of fat to convert. I am sticking with this for the time being because I want muscle and I know I have to feed muscle with protein and cals and so that's what I'm doing. The real deal for me is accepting that I'm 60 and nothing does anything fast anymore! Sometimes it's frustrating, but I know I'm doing the right thing for me for right now. I love lifting, I love the feeling of hitting form and moving big weights. It's satisfying enough for me for now. I might change my mind in another month and decide to cut cals, but for now, nope.
Beeps! Maintenance! How great! I'm so happy for you! And I'm with you, I really loved Stage 3, and now looking forward to Stage 5! I was supposed to start Tuesday but we got wacked with snow yet again! Bleh... But I lift tomorrow! I'm looking over my logs from 3 and getting ready for bed now!
Sam, I LOVE your profile pic! You look awesome!
Emgel, your schedule sounds like mine! I think it's great that you get those runs in and still make room for lifting too! I'm not a runner but I sure love to hear about it!0 -
I hated stage 3 & 5. Dang BWM.
K, you can do it! I did a total of 7 or 8 workouts and decided that was enough. Too. Many. Reps.
Beeps, wow! That must be an amazing feeling to be so close to goal.
Sue, you are such an inspiration.
Sam, you are looking amazing. You are much lighter than me, but I think we are body type twins. It's nice to see there's hope for me!
Icuconley, good idea. I received my BSN from The University of Oklahoma.0 -
Stage 3 B1 this morning. Although I am loving stage 3 so far, A is my fav. The YTWL thingys are tough. I started out thinking, wow, these are nothing and finished thinking, wow, these burn.
I am feeling stronger with each stage. I will concentrate on this at the moment, and not my inch/weight loss. Of course I need and want to lose inches/weight, but something is working. I pick up heavy things, and it feels great.
I went to college in England, in the town I lived in. It feels like a long time ago.0 -
lcu: Nice idea! I went to college the first time at a branch of the University of Kentucky. I quit because I decided to get married. 16 years later, I'm back! I've almost completed my AA Degree with Transfer and will be attending either Western Kentucky University or Brescia University. When I'm finished, I will have my Bachelors in Business with an emphasis on HR (hopefully before I'm 40..lol!) Still deciding on my Masters....
I've been in the field for years and have had tons of training, but never the degree to back it up. I'll admit it's been hard, but I get to show my kids a valuable lesson.
Excited to hear about all the other ladies!! :happy:0
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