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Sam, I think it's that way with everyone. You live so close and take it for granted. What is Madame Tussaud?
Not sure if I can workout today. I want to complete some projects while I have all my boys at home today . Today is my leg workout. My favorite workout and I kinda don't want to miss it.0 -
LBJewel, actually I put on 4 pounds - all those inches lost are completely from NROL4W and any other heavy lifting I did.
I really intend to get serious about a cut but everytime I start I have a day where I am ravenous and then can't seem to get back at it! I average between 1500-1800 cals and stay right around 162-163 - losing weight used to be so easy for me, but that was way before menopause - the older I get the more difficult it is to get any pounds off.
Mary's description of the difference between static lunge and the split squat is accurate. Also, when you do the static lunge you want to remember to get your front leg out far enough so you're using your quad to push back up. The split squat for me was more out of the hamstring glute area.
My trainer held me at 7.5 on the snatches - it's a range of motion lift, not a weight one. if you go too heavy, you can hurt your shoulder and that's not a good thing. Same with the YTWL (later stages)
And I never was able to get much weight on with that reverse lunge - holding them out in front of me is a real challenge!
Mary I know just how you feel. Hang tight, that outfit will fit!! You're really working hard at it. I have a couple of suits that I keep hoping will fit, but never do - always too tight thru my thighs. Bleh...
Sam I wish I'd known, I would have booked it down the street to Mme Tussaud's - I am literally around the corner!! Mary, it's a wax museum!! Oh and next time there aren't any bars for DLs, do SLDL w/ DBs instead! I get a huge kick our of grabbing 65# DBs and seeing the faces of the boys watching me! It's a serious hoot!!
Breeze, I'm going way back to last week to say congrats on your #2 loss - that's totally awesome.
Cowgirl hope you're having fun!
Beeps are you going to any of the other islands? Mike & I bought 6trips on the Island Hopper plane and went to Kona (the active volcano island) and Maui. If you can do it, it's so worth it!! Oh and don't miss turtle bay over on the north side of Oahu (very near Bonzai pipeline) I swam with HUGE sea turtles!
Today was spin day. Yikes it just kills me! She's tough, lots of resistance and up and down and up and down on the pedals the whole time! I was already sore from yesterday's deads, my butt is so achy today!!
Tomorrow is military press - and here's info about 5/3/1
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/how_to_build_pure_strength
http://www.jimwendler.com/2011/09/531-for-a-beginner/
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/hardcore-look-at-jim-wendlers-5-3-1-powerlifting-system.html
http://www.strstd.com/0 -
I hate to just jump into this thread but I have some questions about S2B that I will do tonight.
1. how long does this take? With A I worked out for a whole hour with a 10 min warm up on the elliptical.. B looks a lot longer. I need to know since I have a baby in the daycare.
2. The lateral Flexion has 4 different options? Which should I start with?? the hanna side flexion 1 I assume (looks easy enough)
3. I have a workout worksheet for NR that I got somewhere on MFP, it says Interval Training 15 min (1 min hard/2min recovery) what is that referring to??
4. On planks or Prone Cobra if you can make the full 60 sec what is rule for resting and starting back to finish??
Thanks!
I lost 10 lbs so far with NR and several inches so im excited to continue with it!~0 -
SUe It was a last minute decision to go. I sent you a FB PM earlier today. We go all the way into Manhattan, home of some of the best food on the planet, and my kids wanted McD's. At least I was complimented. The guy behind me in line totally eye balled me and and asked how I keep my figure. I said deadlifting my body weight :laugh:
No gym for me tonight. I am EXHAUSTED from the walking. 10 blocks up, 10 blocks down and then the tour of the wax museum. My little guy was out before the train started moving. Also, my trap is KILLING me. I can't even turn my head properly. What the hell did I do to it?
Ok crogers, let's see if we can answer some questions for you.
1. stage 2 60-75 minutes depending on how fast you blow through your reps and rests. A lot of people did their intervals the next day. Now your warm up should look more like the book warm with pre-lifting stretching. Limit the time on the elliptical. Save it for your intervals.
2. with the side flex, give each a try and see what feels natural to you. I always preferred swiss ball side crunch.
3. For your intervals you can do whatever you want. You can run on the treadmill, the elliptical, the rowing machine, bike, hell you can do kettle bell swings, box jumps, knee to stand, there's a never ending list. whatever you choose to do, do it hard for one minute and recover for two...OR do it hard for 20-30 and rest for 30-40 secs.
4. REsting between plank/cobra is 60-75 secs. per the book. If you're ready to go sooner, do it. Also, if you don't want to be doing those for over a min. (It can get tedious an time consuming) you can do plank progressions make them harder instead of longer.0 -
Yep, I agree with Sam on all especially the plank . In the NROL4abs he doesn't recommend over a minute.
What do yall think of this: A calorie is a calorie. OR is it? I stepped on the scale this am. Major bummer. Not one pound gone but I've kept my calories low. I know yall think this is crazy but i really have to starve and do cardio like mad to lose a pound a week. I don't want to do that anymore because I always gain it back.0 -
Manic, I'm having a heck of a time managing my weight and figuring out calories. I don't know what to tell you. I wouldn't care so much if I was losing inches or if my clothes fit. Photos aren't helping either.0
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Runz, it sucks ! LOL I have seen some inches come off but that stoooopid scale........
Apparently, I have the metabolism that rivals a slug.0 -
Only oahu this trip. We did maui last year and i did 2 days on the big island 13 years ago.....i would like to go back there, for sure.
I did 45- or 50- minutes of "strong curves" workout, yesterday. Using 20 (full) water bottles, in a duffel bag, for weight.
Today was 5 hours at a water-park. Pure cardio.0 -
Beeps, way to make it work and your vacation sounds AWESOME!!.
Mary I love you STOP starving yourself. you're too light to be set to a pound a week.
No gym, letting the trap rest today. I doubled my pillow last night and it isn't in constant pain today.0 -
What's a trap?
I set my calories to 1400 earlier this week and decided I just ain't gonna do it. I think years WW messed up my metabolism. I'm going back up to 1800 next week and I'm going run more. Been slacking off in that department.
I ran this morning with a friend. She's new to running so it was easy for me. But, hey, I was moving and burning calories and earned a cupcake. Gonna go lift heavy now.
I think Workout B in Stage 3 is kinda dumb. Anyone else feel this way?0 -
Trapezius is a long muscle in the back..
What does every one think about a calorie is a calorie? Can I eat 1200 calories of carbs, junk, etc and lose weight? Or zero carbs, processed foods, etc and lose weight? or a good balance? Is a calorie a calorie or not? I've read some say yes. some say no.0 -
I am new to lifting heavy and read the NROL4W from the library last month. I get gym access Oct 1st!
How will I know what weights to try to start with? any injury prevention tips anyone can share?
excited but nervous to start just trying to gather info from all you amazing woman who are lifting heavy!
oh also do you think nrol4w is a good program to start with?0 -
<<<--- I took this yesterday in Hawaii! My tummy is very white because I only wear tankinis in public (due to my uncomfortability with all tummy baby stretch marks!)0
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At this stage MAry a calories is no longer a calorie especially if you are on limited calories you need to pack your calories with as much nutrition as you can and make sure you're getting an adequate balance of protein fat and carbs especially with all of your activity.
BEEPS!!!! Rock on chica. You are looking ripped. Look at those tiny hips. Your midsection is what dreams are made of. The body recomp was a complete success!
The trapezius connects the neck and shoulder. and run down the spine. I was having trouble turning my head. The only thing I did different was using the stupid smith machine, although it has been giving me serious DOMS the last few A workouts. I think I may need to have a trainer check my form, but I've been doing these lifts for a year and half without a problem.
Ash, New Rules is an AWESOME program to start! It really teaches you the fundamentals of lifting and will change your mindset about all things diet and exercise. I think there may be a topic on the main discussion page for links to lifting videos. Watch the videos practice the movements before hitting the gym. Focus on form to avoid injury the weight will come. As far as where to start, you're just going to have to pick something up and see how it feels. If it's too light pick up something heavier. If it's to heavy, pick something lighter. Walk up to the barbell on the squat rack at your gym and use it as a benchmark. (45lbs)
I was super lazy today. Never got out of my PJs and started working on proofreading a manuscript (exciting new freelance job in the making I hope). Felt so good after a wonderfully busy week. Too much work and fun
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Just started Stage 1 today, hopefully will see this through to the very end! Nice to meet you all.0
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Beeps, you look awesome!0
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Ash, above all, focus on form. Make sure you can do everything perfectly with body weight before you up your weights on anything. Watch some videos on how to do the exercises. I had never picked up a barbell before I started NROL4W and I had amazing results.
Beeps, you look incredible! That is what hard work looks like!
Mary, I tend to think that a calorie is a calorie. Your body will burn it or store it depending upon the energy balance. However, how those calories affect your body's chemical balance I'm not sure we can really say. We know that we need proper macronutrients and micronutrients for bodily functions- you won't get enough of those if you get the majority of your cals from processed junk. If you're not getting any green leafy veggies, no whole foods, and low amounts of protein and healthy fats, your body will suffer in some way. I notice it in the form of feeling tired and poor workouts. I think we underestimate the importance of getting all of our vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc when we're just looking at calories. But those are just my thoughts- I ate horribly this week and I am feeling the effects!
Sam, I have a lot of problems with my left trap. Try foam rolling it. It seems to help mine. Sounds like you had an awesome day!
Had a girls night out. Thank goodness I fasted a good part of the day. Too much food not enough moving.
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I had problems with that ol' trap thing at the beginning of summer. My right side bothered me.
I've done some soul searching and reevaluating and have decided to calculate my TDEE and subtract 15% for my daily calorie goals. I'm still going to log my workouts but I will input 0 calorie burn on lift days. Days that include running will be logged and I will eat those calories if I wanna. This will put me at 1600 per day. I can live with that.
Beeps, how long before you saw results? I'm like you that I'm not really focused on pounds but I want to recompose my body.0 -
This body is now 20 months in the making. I liked the lifting in NROL4W, but, until I focused on eating MUCH less food than Lou Schuler gave me, I had too much body fat.
I still want to be <20% body fat - and I am not there, yet.
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How much less food are you eating than what the book gave you? I just started and would also like to see those results but was under the impression I had to eat more to achieve them.0
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Kanras everybody is different. I eat more Beeps eats less. You have to find your own balance.
ANd Welcome to the group
I will be a domestic goddess today. SAdly I have to travel for groceries. My local stores have for some reason stopped carrying my veggie brands even though I live in an area that has a fairly high vegetarian population. I guess they don't shop at my stores lol. Off to Wegman's I go.0 -
Yos! I'm on my last day of my TOM and I just shrank overnight! I knew this was a rough month but dang! The scale is down (I know, I'm obsessed) and my hips are down :drinker: Maybe I won't have to shop for new pants after all! Tomorrow I will take official weekly measurements.0
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Kansas, I agree with Samntha that you have to find what works for you.
This is the group for NROL4W, so I will try not to hi-jack about the book's eating philosophy.0 -
I am friends with Alwyn on fb. I asked a particular question (don't remember) , but I do remember his answer. He said, "NROL4W is about strength. It is not a weight loss program." BUT several women in this group did lose weight . I am not sure but many of them can correct if I am wrong. The women who did lose weight were sedentary before NROL4W.0
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That is a correct statement for me. I believe most people who are mostly fit and active already, most likely won't lose too much weight, but will end up strong with nicely defined muscles and a few lost inches
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My interest in NROLFW is mostly about getting stronger. Losing inches/weight would be nice as well, but there are other exercises I can do for that. I care more about how my overall body looks than whatever the scale says personally.0
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I have been lurking here for a while now, thought I would jump in...I am one week into stage 2, I have only lost 3 lbs since starting but have gained muscle and lost body fat. I am eating a lot and found the calories in the book way too low for me. I eat 2000 on rest days and 2300 on lifting days... Seems to be the magic numbers for me but took a while it find out.
Kanras, you are definitely going to get stronger:)0 -
Welcome, glreim! Way to go on the gains and losses!
I'm down .75 inches in my hips :glasses:0 -
yay Runz!!!
I'm in pain today. My neck/shoulder felt ok yesterday, but I slept badly due to an inferior pillow and now I hurt again. I think this may be a cardio week
Welcome gireim!0 -
That is a correct statement for me. I believe most people who are mostly fit and active already, most likely won't lose too much weight, but will end up strong with nicely defined muscles and a few lost inches
I gained weight. Not significant #s but I gained. That said, I also lost very significant inches and really got much stronger than I've been in years - all at 60-61 yo.
Welcome new folks! I hope you love this program. It was such a groundbreaker for me. It showed me that I can indeed be strong as an older woman and that the scale doesn't mean a thing. Ok, it does, but it's not the answer to everything.
YEA Runz!!!
Although for the most part I agree a cal is a cal, I personally do much better staying low carb. I've tried carb cycling and put on weight. Carbs and me just do not mix - I get stupid cravings that I can't control well. I also see that I have to get my cals down if I want to get rid of this body fat. EMTWL doesn't work for me - although I workout often, the rest of my lifestyle is very sedentary, and, Mary, like you, I have the metabolism of that same slug. It's gotten worse since I went through menopause.
So - I say as the others have - find what works best for you. If you aren't getting the results you want, and you've given it some time, switch it up. try IF or eat more protein and fewer processed foods, things like that. You just don't know until you do it!
Tomorrow is squat day for me! YEA! I love me some squats!0
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