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I am same height and similar weight. I am doing 1450 on non lift days and 1600 to 1650 on lift days. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm in stage one and no weight loss or gain yetFood poisoning=the worst. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Tough week. Did stage 2b workout last night, Bulgarian split squats are a total burner. Are you supposed to use barbell? I used dumbbells for first time around.
Looking at diet and cals again I'm 5'5" around 150, age 49, set cals at 1450 since I saw a weight gain in stage 1 when I used the book formula. Can any of you here advise on cals, since you've been at the program longer?
Thx...appreciate any feedback!
good deal - and we are close in age too. i have a partner!! awesome :-)0 -
Wow rocky, 3 inches in 2 weeks? That's amazing! My lower belly is taking forever to budge
I'm 2/3 this past week. Met and surpassed my protein goal of 110g , drank all my water, but totally forgot that my new third goal was no sweets. A coworker brought me sweet potato pudding and it was after I ate it that I remembered my goal :grumble:. Anyway it was yummy :blushing: .
Ok ladies, I'm about to ramble, please bear with me. So basically I've been looking at photos of women at different bf % and figure I'd like to be about 24%. To do that, I've determined that I'd have to lose 13 more lbs, assuming that I continue to lose fat and lean in the ratio I currently am. What's the problem? Well I just don't have enough muscle to look good at that weight. Right now I'm about 29%+ and my boobs and butt have shrunk considerably (and yes those are important to me and they weren't big to start with).
Based on all I've read, I'm thinking I will have to suffer through looking flat and go ahead and drop the weight which should take about 3 1/2 months under optimal conditions. Then start a small clean bulk until I'm back up to 27% and start cutting again. Rinse and repeat until I'm satisfied with my look, which for me means a semi-flat tummy and a nice firm round butt. BUT I'm getting married in December (did i tell you all that?) and don't want to look like a stick in my wedding dress.
OR I could just do a body recomp. This of course sounds the best in theory, but the problem is it's a really slow method. One person I found online who did it took 2 YEARS to achieve sufficient muscle. I just don't want to have to be doing something for that long. PLUS I'm planning to try for baby # 2 next year. But can I survive months and months of looking emaciated? I really don't know. So confused right now.
Sorry again for all the rambling, kinda just going through all this in my head to make a decision.0 -
Sunshine, my measurements have been all over the dang place since I started again in February. For awhile, I was doing 1700 on non lift days and 1900 on lift days. This week, I changed it to 1600 on non lift days and 2000 on lift days. Run two days a week for 30 minutes or less and don't eat back the calories. Those are my "margin of error" calories :laugh: Without a food scale, I've decided I need the cushion.
I'm 5'6" and my waist is 26 inches but my hips are 42.5 inches My ring size is a 4 (no joke) and my feet have shrunk over the last couple of years. My last known weight was 133 lbs. In February, I guess?
I'm a pear shape, hypothyroid, hashimoto's kinda girl. I wouldn't worry about the 4 lbs in Stage 1 and I would say that 1450 is too low.
I got through Stage 4 last year but wasn't diligent about protein intake and was eating fewer calories. This time, I'm eating more, pushing the protein, and performing far better.
wow great to hear such good results from you. and thanks for replying! so you are 133 at 66" that sounds pretty healthy. i'm afraid to eat more since i am 65" and 150 lb. really feel that i have 20lb of fat to lose and wondering if the heavy lifting is the right thing right now. struggling mentally with this since the scale isn't moving and the inches are shifting around but really no net loss. i have some pix downloaded to my profile, feel free to add me to see - would love some input on this.
i was telling pmagna this too - i need clarity on what program is going to be best for right now. not sure that it's NROLFW since i still have so much fat to lose. but i'm open to suggestions.
btw i had graves disease years ago - beat it since then, but it was a nighmare, they had to make me hypothyroid for awhile which resulted in a big weight gain (part of what i'm still struggling to take off!). hope they have you on a med cocktail that's working! :-)0 -
Sunshine, to put things in a little bit more perspective re calories etc, I'm 4'9, weigh 89pds and try to eat at least 1600-1700cal a day to maintain. At least... some days I'm under, some days I'm waaaay over
:drinker: I aim for 1g/pd of protein, but exceed that fairly easily - the only good thing about being small lol
My losing weight calories were about the 1400-1500 mark.
With the book, they were roughly my calories given, maybe the book was a little more... seriously why couldn't I be just a couple of inches taller?? :grumble:
In the end, I picked a number, did that for a couple of weeks and redid the same process over a couple of months until I found a nice little range that seemed to work
Something must be working because I've put on a little weight (only about 2pd-ish allowing for fluctuations), but I still happily and comfortably fit in my skinny jeans and my tummy isn't too bad. I want more muscle and I want it now dammit! :bigsmile: :laugh: (please note 2pd/1kg-ish looks and feels a lot different for vertically-challenged folk LOL)
wow sounds like you've had some great results and are able to eat quite a bit for your size!
i've been playing with the cals - but as you can see from my post above, i am really lacking good direction on this because i can't get past the 20 lb of fat. i'm continuing with the program for the time being.
i hear you on the flat tummy!!! i have an island of fat (thanks to my 2 daughters!) that hasn't budged since February.0 -
wow great to hear such good results from you. and thanks for replying! so you are 133 at 66" that sounds pretty healthy. i'm afraid to eat more since i am 65" and 150 lb. really feel that i have 20lb of fat to lose and wondering if the heavy lifting is the right thing right now. struggling mentally with this since the scale isn't moving and the inches are shifting around but really no net loss. i have some pix downloaded to my profile, feel free to add me to see - would love some input on this.
Where did you get 20# to lose? Is that based on BMI, measuement based body fat %, or a body comp test? I genuinely fely I had 20# of fat to lose and a fairly accurate body comp test informed me I had 10.8# of fat to safely lose.0 -
Don't forget your challenge scores this week, ladies! This is the last week!
I'm 1/3 this week. I didn't even try to hit my macros- just didn't care. I still averaged 140 grams a day, but my % was way off (only like 27%). Cals were the same- I just ate too much.
I nailed my 3 lifting sessions though!0 -
Sunshine, forgive me if I've already said everything I'm about to say. What are your goals? Do you just want to lose weight? Or do you want to lose FAT? If you just want to lose scale weight, then heavy lifting doesn't need to be included in your routine. But if you want to lose mostly fat, change your shape, and see your strength increase, keep lifting. Lower your cals a bit if you feel they're too high. Losing fat is all about eating at a deficit- finding the right deficit can be really hard. The problem with cals is they are very dependent upon the individual. I am almost the same size as you and I eat over 2000 cals a day to lose. But I'm also 30 years old, I have a large yard to tend to, 4 horses, 3 very young kids, and a big house to clean. So I stay pretty busy even when I'm not lifting. And thyroid/medical issues definitely play a role. The calories in NROL4W were too low for me. I like the Scooby calculator better- it's more specific about activity levels. Also, most calculators do not take into account BF%. If you have a higher BF% than average for your weight, height and age, you may not be able to eat as much as the calculators will tell you. Don't give up on lifting. Many of us found it took a lot of trail and error to find our "sweet spot" for losing fat, but still gaining strength.
Also, don't underestimate the role of enough sleep and other stress factors in your weight loss. I find that stress and lack of sleep (increased cortisol) can mask weight loss for weeks at a time.
TL;DR: Caloric deficit is very individual. Eat at a reasonable deficit to lose fat and strength train to maintain muscle and create shape as you lose.0 -
Wow rocky, 3 inches in 2 weeks? That's amazing! My lower belly is taking forever to budge
I'm 2/3 this past week. Met and surpassed my protein goal of 110g , drank all my water, but totally forgot that my new third goal was no sweets. A coworker brought me sweet potato pudding and it was after I ate it that I remembered my goal :grumble:. Anyway it was yummy :blushing: .
Ok ladies, I'm about to ramble, please bear with me. So basically I've been looking at photos of women at different bf % and figure I'd like to be about 24%. To do that, I've determined that I'd have to lose 13 more lbs, assuming that I continue to lose fat and lean in the ratio I currently am. What's the problem? Well I just don't have enough muscle to look good at that weight. Right now I'm about 29%+ and my boobs and butt have shrunk considerably (and yes those are important to me and they weren't big to start with).
Based on all I've read, I'm thinking I will have to suffer through looking flat and go ahead and drop the weight which should take about 3 1/2 months under optimal conditions. Then start a small clean bulk until I'm back up to 27% and start cutting again. Rinse and repeat until I'm satisfied with my look, which for me means a semi-flat tummy and a nice firm round butt. BUT I'm getting married in December (did i tell you all that?) and don't want to look like a stick in my wedding dress.
OR I could just do a body recomp. This of course sounds the best in theory, but the problem is it's a really slow method. One person I found online who did it took 2 YEARS to achieve sufficient muscle. I just don't want to have to be doing something for that long. PLUS I'm planning to try for baby # 2 next year. But can I survive months and months of looking emaciated? I really don't know. So confused right now.
Sorry again for all the rambling, kinda just going through all this in my head to make a decision.
I'm in the same boat- my BF% is very similar and my "goal" is 22%. However, the bewbs are really shrinking and my ribs barely have any fat on them (to the point that the hubs keeps commenting on it). Thighs and lower belly are still there. I know I won't have the muscle to look like I want to at 22%, but I'm too impatient for a recomp. My plan is to continue cutting until I get to 22% (probably Fall) and then do a slow bulk over the Winter. Then cut again in the Spring.
However, I also think that if I lose these last 10lbs slowly, I may be surprised at what muscle is left when I get to 22%. So I'm just going to have to see what happens when I get there.
If you do it right, you might have time to be bulking and putting some muscle and fat back on by the time your wedding gets here?0 -
I' HOOOOME! and so don't want to do anything even though that's what happened last week. I need a vacation from my vacation. the staying up late, sleeping in, eating junk is catching up with me.
Cowgirl you can give me a big FAT ZERO for last week. :bigsmile:0 -
Pudding, your workout schedule looks good to me. Just be aware that true HIIT affects your muscles very similar to the way lifting does. You may find doing it on non-lifting days will affect your recovery. But it may not. Just something to consider.
Rocky, those are awesome results!
Everyone else, keep lifting!
I found out I can get a DEXA for $100 at a nearby radiology clinic. I'm thinking of doing it to give me a better idea of where I'm at and what my goals should be.
In the NSV department, I was trying on some clothes at a store yesterday and caught a glimpse of my butt in the mirror and thought,"Is that my rear?!". It's looking smooth, firm and lifted. So in spite of lack of scale progress, changes ARE happening in the mirror!0 -
I' HOOOOME! and so don't want to do anything even though that's what happened last week. I need a vacation from my vacation. the staying up late, sleeping in, eating junk is catching up with me.
Cowgirl you can give me a big FAT ZERO for last week. :bigsmile:
I hope you enjoyed yourself! Post-vacation hangover is the worst! You look great!0 -
Hi Y'all I hope everyone's weekend was great!
Sunshine- I hope you recovered quickly, and gosh the rest have you have been so busy!
Today is my 35th Birthday, and I celebrated all weekend out of town! I had lots of NSV's this weekend! The first is I bought a size Large shirt!! I can't remember the last time that happen!
Anyway today is also my 1 year mark (of my first 20 lb. by my birthday goal I set January, 2013) so really 1 year, and 5 mos! I decided to count from my first victory not the day I chose to start, because my first victory lead to my first revelation!)
I did not want to be the person I was 5 mos. before that, and took the bull by the horns!
Now 1 year later I have manage to keep off my first goal, and then some! I have changed my outlook on my lifestyle, and my goals!! I am thinking about writing on success stories forum today, but wanted to share personally with the group that has gotten me to a VERY HAPPY PLACE!
First let's start with measurements (I now realize these are so much more important to me than the scale)
I wanted to wait until today to avoid getting discourage, and to give me an OMG! moment: (I got it!)
Jan. 2013
Neck: 17 1/2 in.
Under Bust: 44 in.
Natural Waist: 45 inch
Hips: 44 in.
Today:
Neck: 16 in.
Under Bust: 37 1/2 in.
Natural Waist: 38 in.
Hips: 41in.
* I have gone from a size 22/24 tops, Size 20 jeans, 44 C Bra, and not being able to wear an 18 inch chain necklace to:
Size 14/16 top (XL) although this weekend I was able to buy a size (L)
Size 12/ 14 jean (really depends on cut, and strech, but most I own have a little stretch so size 12 most often)
Size 38 C bra (but I need to be measure again now all the way on the smallest hook, and could still be tighter)
No problem (other than it has to be real gold) wearing an 18 inch chain
I would have like to see the scale below 200 lbs. , but as of this morning it's 205 lbs.
I have learned this is SOOOOOO NOT important to me: I started lifting in Oct. 2013 at around 210lbs. so not really a whole lot of movement scale wise, but
THIS:
MEANS SOOO MUCH MORE THAN ANY SCALE!!!
SO really ladies this is a THANK YOU! FOR EVERYTHING! I will keep going I am hoping by next birthday to see a flat tummy, and even more muscles!!
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Sunshine, forgive me if I've already said everything I'm about to say. What are your goals? Do you just want to lose weight? Or do you want to lose FAT? If you just want to lose scale weight, then heavy lifting doesn't need to be included in your routine. But if you want to lose mostly fat, change your shape, and see your strength increase, keep lifting. Lower your cals a bit if you feel they're too high. Losing fat is all about eating at a deficit- finding the right deficit can be really hard. The problem with cals is they are very dependent upon the individual. I am almost the same size as you and I eat over 2000 cals a day to lose. But I'm also 30 years old, I have a large yard to tend to, 4 horses, 3 very young kids, and a big house to clean. So I stay pretty busy even when I'm not lifting. And thyroid/medical issues definitely play a role. The calories in NROL4W were too low for me. I like the Scooby calculator better- it's more specific about activity levels. Also, most calculators do not take into account BF%. If you have a higher BF% than average for your weight, height and age, you may not be able to eat as much as the calculators will tell you. Don't give up on lifting. Many of us found it took a lot of trail and error to find our "sweet spot" for losing fat, but still gaining strength.
Also, don't underestimate the role of enough sleep and other stress factors in your weight loss. I find that stress and lack of sleep (increased cortisol) can mask weight loss for weeks at a time.
TL;DR: Caloric deficit is very individual. Eat at a reasonable deficit to lose fat and strength train to maintain muscle and create shape as you lose.
i'm probably perseverating on this too much. just don't want to waste time. tired of the island of belly fat that's on my stomach! LOL
my goal is to lose the extra fat and if not build muscle then at least keep the muscles i have. 20lb of fat still seems like a lot of fat to lose. with the amount of fat that's left question is simply whether it's more effective to take it off with cardio/light weight training shred or continue with heavy lifting program.
and, you're right, it's trial and error with cals. not sure about others but tough for me since i'll find a reason to eat if i can. on the other hand 1450 on a lifting day with HITT - could not stick to this yesterday way too hungry by dinner.
i'm impatient what can i say. i want immediate reinforcement for efforts made. heavy lifting is a long term proposition - and much more complicated to implement. almost like you never know what you could be doing wrong.0 -
wth just read your post nancyrosey - congrats, that's AWESOME!!!
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Hey Nancy Rose thanks for sharing!
Nice results
Sunshine if you just want to start whipping off 20 pounds to start with do something six days a week that gets your HR 65 to 70% of your max for 45mins to an hour and eat at a deficiet to start with (10 to 20% below maintence and don't eat your exercise caloires back). Once you got that down then throw in some HIIT and replace two days a week with weight traning if you want to change your shape. Of course this is just my humble take on it.
I lost a pound! :happy: So that's three total since starting my 2 week challenge. I am one pound away from goal just working the program now. I am forgoing lunch time HIIT so I can lift later. IT's raining here and my hair was straighten yesterday so no outdoor stuff today. I need good hair tomorrow. 0 -
Cowgirl good job getting all your lifting in!
I am a 3/3...for results !0 -
Hi!
I am back from Europe....won't be lifting until Wednesday....will just pick up where i left off!
Great photos/measurements going on, in here!
BOOM!0 -
Beeps Welcome back! Pictures?0
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wow great to hear such good results from you. and thanks for replying! so you are 133 at 66" that sounds pretty healthy. i'm afraid to eat more since i am 65" and 150 lb. really feel that i have 20lb of fat to lose and wondering if the heavy lifting is the right thing right now. struggling mentally with this since the scale isn't moving and the inches are shifting around but really no net loss. i have some pix downloaded to my profile, feel free to add me to see - would love some input on this.
Where did you get 20# to lose? Is that based on BMI, measuement based body fat %, or a body comp test? I genuinely fely I had 20# of fat to lose and a fairly accurate body comp test informed me I had 10.8# of fat to safely lose.
good question, sorry i missed it before - body fat according to the fat-0-meter thingy at the gym is 31.7%. when younger PK (previous to kids) i always weighed around 130. since i'm currently around 150 i figure 130 is a good number for me to strive for0 -
I have TONS of pictures.....but this site isn't picture-friendly (ie like facebook), so it will have to wait until i can post them to photobucket and shrink 'em.....zzzzzzzzzzzz......0
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Good grief. I had to open a separate tab to catch up on reading and responses :laugh:
Thanks to the balls to the wall roast I made yesterday, my protein will be 144 g today :drinker:
Barbell, I hope to see my butt in a mirror someday and be totally impressed :laugh:
Nancy, those losses are so very dramatic! So funny how the scale barely moved.
Sunshine, I agree with Rocky. You can run that 20 lbs off super fast. I certainly did. Even 11 years later, I'm using 5k training runs and I run intervals. Lots of people use C25K. I use 5K101 on iTunes.
Now, I lift. Except one of the ab exercises has to go. Gave me a butt rash last week. I think I'll do good ol' curls instead.0 -
My protein is 65 at the moment. Supper time will bump it to 87 and I'll still have plenty of room for a snack.
I am wanting to step on the scales but it will just give me an excuse to binge. I am feeling down and out . My oldest daughter is still giving me grief. Our family is broken and the family can't recover. She doesn't realize her actions affects us all. We all are suffering from her early 20's mentality of "it's my life".
Can't wait to see pics , Beeps. Every decent pic of me my eyes are squinting either from the sun or wind. (as you can see in profile pic)0 -
Hey Nancy Rose thanks for sharing!
Nice results
Sunshine if you just want to start whipping off 20 pounds to start with do something six days a week that gets your HR 65 to 70% of your max for 45mins to an hour and eat at a deficiet to start with (10 to 20% below maintence and don't eat your exercise caloires back). Once you got that down then throw in some HIIT and replace two days a week with weight traning if you want to change your shape. Of course this is just my humble take on it.
I lost a pound! :happy: So that's three total since starting my 2 week challenge. I am one pound away from goal just working the program now. I am forgoing lunch time HIIT so I can lift later. IT's raining here and my hair was straighten yesterday so no outdoor stuff today. I need good hair tomorrow.
Rocky, I don't mean this to come off as disrespectful or snarky, but numerous studies and trainers will tell you that weight loss is about calorie deficit. It has nothing to do with keeping your HR in a particular zone or burning a certain number of cals during a workout. You could completely quit exercise and still lose weight as long as you are eating at a deficit. I think there's also some compelling research that is indicating that the traditional "cardio" is not nearly as effective for fat loss as everyone thought it was. Working out 6 days a week most definitely will make it so that you can eat more, but many certainly don't have time for that and need the most effective workout for a short amount of time. Again, not trying to be argumentative, but there's nothing magic about working out 6 days a week and getting your heart rate in a certain "zone".
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_hierarchy_of_fat_loss
I like the way Alwyn explains it in the above article.0 -
Nancy, great results!!!
Beeps, can't wait to see your pics!
Manic, I hope things with your daughter will get better or resolve soon. It's amazing how much one person's decisions can affect an entire family.0 -
NancyRoseyCheeks - AWESOME!! And Happy Birthday! :flowerforyou: It was my 35th birthday last week over Mother's Day weekend :happy:
My backside aches from split squats, but I'll turn around and do it all again later LOL
I'm not doing the intervals at the moment because my time is limited with work being busy etc, but I'm managing to get in some long walks with some friends (apparently I am their motivation to keep moving lol) which will have to suffice. I may do the BWM though - up to redoing Stage 3 now, and my times last I did it were around the 2.30 mark, so should be okay (fully expecting to feel almost dead after the first time back though lol).
Challenge, I give myself 2/2 (seeing as I'm not doing PLP at the moment). Diet is not too bad, even with the cakes I baked last week :laugh: :drinker: I'm hitting protein quite well, although I could probably drink a little more water, and I'm managing my 3x lifting and my walking each week
My TOM is due next week. And I'm in the grumpy PMS phase - enough said
And I think Polly may have dust allergies. She's been sneezing a lot since the tradies were here on Friday - they were cutting stone and I think the dust doesn't agree with her. Everything has been wiped down at least twice, but I'd say there's still some floating around. I'll have to keep airing out the rooms downstairs for a while longer.0 -
Cowgirl, that article was exactly what I needed. Thanks so much! I can really complicate the **** out of things)Hey Nancy Rose thanks for sharing!
Nice results
Sunshine if you just want to start whipping off 20 pounds to start with do something six days a week that gets your HR 65 to 70% of your max for 45mins to an hour and eat at a deficiet to start with (10 to 20% below maintence and don't eat your exercise caloires back). Once you got that down then throw in some HIIT and replace two days a week with weight traning if you want to change your shape. Of course this is just my humble take on it.
I lost a pound! :happy: So that's three total since starting my 2 week challenge. I am one pound away from goal just working the program now. I am forgoing lunch time HIIT so I can lift later. IT's raining here and my hair was straighten yesterday so no outdoor stuff today. I need good hair tomorrow.
Rocky, I don't mean this to come off as disrespectful or snarky, but numerous studies and trainers will tell you that weight loss is about calorie deficit. It has nothing to do with keeping your HR in a particular zone or burning a certain number of cals during a workout. You could completely quit exercise and still lose weight as long as you are eating at a deficit. I think there's also some compelling research that is indicating that the traditional "cardio" is not nearly as effective for fat loss as everyone thought it was. Working out 6 days a week most definitely will make it so that you can eat more, but many certainly don't have time for that and need the most effective workout for a short amount of time. Again, not trying to be argumentative, but there's nothing magic about working out 6 days a week and getting your heart rate in a certain "zone".
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/the_hierarchy_of_fat_loss
I like the way Alwyn explains it in the above article.0 -
I will give myself 2/3 for last week. Protein was pretty much as good as it's going to get being a veggie, and I did all my workouts. Mindless evening eating still occurred though :P
Did my first stage 2 workout today and I loved it! OMG, the lunges with rear foot elevated had my hams on FIRE! Here are my numbers so I can compare any increases once I'm done this stage:
FSPP: I started super light since I've never done those before and want to get the positioning right. It feels so dang awkward in my upper body. Definitely have to work on that. I used a preloaded barbell that had ten pounds worth of plates and believe the bar on its own is ten pounds so 20 pounds total I think. I want to double check on the weight of just the bar to know for sure. I can definitely go heavier once I get the upper body form down but that bending of the elbow feels so awkward!
Step ups: used an empty Olympic bar (so 45 pounds). This is down 10 pounds from where I finished the stage 2 step ups but for some reason today the balance challenge of the empty bar on my back felt tough enough!
DB 1 point row: I used 10 pounds dumbells at first but they were much too light so I switched to 15s for the second set. Still maybe a bit too light but I want to get the balance down right. I will likely try the 20s on Friday. Five reps on each side felt like so few.
Static lunge: 15 pounds DBS and I was really pushing to get through the last couple of reps. Sweating like mad and screaming hams. So good!
Push ups: Ugh, I hate you! They aren't getting any easier for me and I am still stuck on ones at about 30 degrees. And no way can I do them without my arms/elbows flared out to the sides; it just ain't happening
Planks: 60 seconds wasn't too tough. Manageable.
I had to modify the cable horizontal wood chop as my gym doesn't have a machine to do that so I did them on the floor with a medicine ball (8 lbs) as suggested in the book. Too easy, so the second set I did with a ten pound DB on the stability ball. Much more challenging cause of balancing on the ball but much more effective. Going to move to a 12 pound DB on Friday.0 -
Thee goes the thread blowing up again. Nancy, AWESOME!!. BEeps and Manic, PICTURES. Manic, You beat for protein today I'm at like 50. Damn you mac & cheese, and churro, and rice cakes etc. Did I mention TOM lol.
Since we're throwing out cals here. I'm 5'6" about 143 and I'm down in measurements to what I was at 128lbs. ergo, I'm very happy with my weight and I threw my scale away. The tightness of my pants is all the indication I need. Regardless, I eat about 1900 on non-lifting days and well over 2k on lifting/exercise days. When I was in weight loss mode, I consistently lost .5-1lb per week at 1600.
I'm on my feet almost all day, but nothing strenuous like cowgirl. The ONLY cardio I do is my weekly zumba class and the occasional interval swim. Extreme cardio is a good way to deplete your muscle mass. You might lose fat, but at what cost? LAst thing I want is to be one of those tooth pick chicks with no *kitten*.0 -
OH yall want to know something totally out of character for me?
You know I loathe step ups, right? I did them on my own my accord. :bigsmile:
Thanks, Cowgirl. I had a "chat" on fb with her (our only means of contact). She doesn't want to come home. She has it in her mind that I control her and if she came home I would do it again . :noway: So I must accept the fact that my oldest child doesn't want to be a part of our lives and I am moving on.0 -
Sorry you're going through that w your daughter manic - your bond with her growing up but have been super strong for her to push into adulthood with such hurtful force! Hard. I have a 16 yo and the process is already starting, so I can imagine what you're going through. :flowerforyou:
Samantha thanks for the details on your cals - helps a lot!0
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