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Did you decide against Stage 6 Jen? I've lost track!
Haven't quite decided about going back to stage 6 yet Maggie (I didn't have time for it before stage 7/hols), i'll be all over the place this summer, might do it after that, before stronglifts, but i'm so keen to start that I'm not sure!
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So many of us are coming up on the end and getting ready to go our separate ways. I hate to see you leave. We need to keep the daily chat going, or start a new group or something for "lifting chicks"0
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Did you decide against Stage 6 Jen? I've lost track!
Haven't quite decided about going back to stage 6 yet Maggie (I didn't have time for it before stage 7/hols), i'll be all over the place this summer, might do it after that, before stronglifts, but i'm so keen to start that I'm not sure!
How are you liking it?
Actually, I'm really liking it. Got my first significant DOMS from it, so I know I'm working hard.0 -
I don't really think anyone has to "leave" this thread just because they have "graduated" (and moved on....) from NROL4W!!
Stick around, samntha, I'm going to....0 -
Ooooh I can tell I added weight! DOMs that I've never had before. I am sore in places I didn't think I had! Owie! <G> Yea it's a good sore, but sore! I will try lifting tomorrow, Stage 1 4B - my last 2 set work out and I want to do it! But I will see how I feel in the morning.
My other news is that the surgeon recommended by my gyn and my internist has agreed to see me and will do the surgery. I have to call tomorrow to make an initial appointment. Once we talk, I'll have a better idea when and how long I'll be down etc. I'm not really worried about the surgery and I will be relieved to have this whole thing behind me. This has been going on for too long.0 -
yall better stick around!! You know me, I'll sabotage myself around TOM if yall aren't here to kick my butt into reality.0
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Doesn't it make sense having deficit of at least 500 every day for the past 2 months (with the exception of maybe 3 days at maintenance) a person would have LOST weight? This is killing me people! The deficit is calculated per body media.
I don't wanna go hungry but that is the ONLY way I have lost weight. I eat 1200 and don't eat exercise calories but once I start eating more I gain it all back. So does that mean my body requires only 1200?
UGH! Why does this have to be a struggle! I have a couple friends(in real life) who are dropping weight like crazy. Yes they are eating bird size portions and I don't want to be like that. I like food .
Tomorrow I will finish up stage 4. Take a week ish break from lifting and do some cardio. and yes, I know. It's not about the scales.
I just needed to rant because it doesn't make sense. 0 -
Oh NROL4W how I am missing you, first of all I was away last week and the little local gym near by didn't have any free weights, so I thought OK one week won't hurt just keep walking and running everyday and then pick it up when I get back, Monday this week should have been first day back on it and then bam! FLU!!!! its Thursday now and the fever has finally broken, just feel so weak and all I want to do is exercise exercise *crying face*!!!
thank you mini rant over
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morning all.
I have a question on Stage 2 - I will be starting this stage on Monday and I am SO looking forward to it.
My question is Do you still do this stage 3 times a week, or only 2 times a week?
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Girl, seriously, had this same conversation with myself last night. First, I did NOT weigh myself because like I need any more motivation to not continue? But I *did* take measurements and am still hanging onto that .75-1" I've GAINED on my already ginormous thighs since mid APRIL (they look worse in real life that picturesDoesn't it make sense having deficit of at least 500 every day for the past 2 months (with the exception of maybe 3 days at maintenance) a person would have LOST weight? This is killing me people! The deficit is calculated per body media.
I don't wanna go hungry but that is the ONLY way I have lost weight. I eat 1200 and don't eat exercise calories but once I start eating more I gain it all back. So does that mean my body requires only 1200?
UGH! Why does this have to be a struggle! I have a couple friends(in real life) who are dropping weight like crazy. Yes they are eating bird size portions and I don't want to be like that. I like food .
Tomorrow I will finish up stage 4. Take a week ish break from lifting and do some cardio. and yes, I know. It's not about the scales. I just needed to rant because it doesn't make sense.). It's bull.
I'm skipping stage 6 (may do the program again next year and include it depending on where I am fat wise) and if I do Stage 7 once, I'll finish over Labor Day weekend. I'm planning on doing Stage 7 twice because it seems much more of a fat burning stage plus I firmly decided last night that I"m doing Insanity when I'm done with this. I'm going to Mexico the week of October 21st and I want as much fat gone as possible and if I do Stage 7 twice, the timing will be perfect for the rest week between month 1 and month 2 of Insanity. I should finish it around Thanksgiving and then I'll circle back around to a lifting program. I mentally feel better with this plan. Haha!
So.......anyone actually done Insanity? My husband is doing it now and damn, it's pretty brutal looking! I'm kinda scared!0 -
morning all.
I have a question on Stage 2 - I will be starting this stage on Monday and I am SO looking forward to it.
My question is Do you still do this stage 3 times a week, or only 2 times a week?
Thanks
Claudette
Still 3 times a week. I'm on Stage 4 right now which is exactly like stage 2 except for the rep/set count. It's my favorite so far. I have made so much progress on these lifts because of gaining some balance!0 -
cool thanks.
I am going to hire a trainer at the gym to go over all of the exercises in this stage as it would seem my form was incorrect with the lat pull down and these exercises seem a little more intense and I want to avoid any possibility of injury.0 -
Doesn't it make sense having deficit of at least 500 every day for the past 2 months (with the exception of maybe 3 days at maintenance) a person would have LOST weight? This is killing me people! The deficit is calculated per body media.
I don't wanna go hungry but that is the ONLY way I have lost weight. I eat 1200 and don't eat exercise calories but once I start eating more I gain it all back. So does that mean my body requires only 1200?
UGH! Why does this have to be a struggle! I have a couple friends(in real life) who are dropping weight like crazy. Yes they are eating bird size portions and I don't want to be like that. I like food .
Tomorrow I will finish up stage 4. Take a week ish break from lifting and do some cardio. and yes, I know. It's not about the scales. I just needed to rant because it doesn't make sense.
You may need to eat more! There is a similar topic going on on the NROLFW Facebook group (awesome ladies!). You need to fuel your body in order for it to do what it needs to do! 1200 calories sounds super low!! What type of foods are you eating? Are those 1200 calories coming from carbs and sugars? Or are they high protein/healthy fat calories?0 -
I'm doing the 12 workouts for Stay 7 instead of 6, only because I don't know what to do next and haven't had time to plan it out! I love the structure of this program, though I will admit I cheated myself on the lunges last night
I may do the last five workouts, but skip lunges and step-ups..
I know it's not how the program is intended, but i get so frustrated with them!0 -
manic - like it or not, you have to PRIORITIZE.
1. Do you want to decrease the number on the scale?? Then I suggest you eat between 1,000 - 1,200 calories per day, do cardio like crazy, and your scale number will drop. Oh, you'll be skinny, but you won't have any muscles. And, whenEVER you start eating more calories, your weight will bounce RIGHT BACK UP.
2. Do you want to change your shape??? Then I suggest you get off the scale, permanently. Start fueling your body FOR your work-outs. Get your HEAVY lifting in (to exhaustion) and ease up on the cardio.
Take your medicine, manic.....this is TOUGH LOVE BEEPS comin' out!!0 -
cushy - I did 3 x per week at every Stage, except Stage 7 (my current stage). I cannot do 3 x per week with these circuit-style work-outs. My body just needs more recovery time.0
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jnh - I'm kind of convinced you keep measuring the BIGGEST part of different body parts, and the BIGGEST part (of course), keeps moving around. If you measure at the EXACT same spot, time after time, THAT is where the reductions will happen (imho). Legs, for me, are DIFFICULT. I measure mid-thigh by hanging my arms down my side and wherever my middle finger rests, that's where I measure. So, I *believe* that is the same spot, every month. But, where do I measure my upper thigh?? I'm betting that moves around every month. Same with calves.....how do I KNOW it's the "same" spot every month.....can't. It's probably off by 1", or more, in either direction, every time. LEGS are TOUGH to measure!
Belly, too. My fitness challenge demands say, "measure at smallest part of waist". Well, that's probably moving around, a bit, every month. And, second, it says, "measure at biggest part of waist" - huh? That, for SURE, is floating around every month. So, instead, I've decided to measure RIGHT at the belly-button....that sucker is staying in the same spot every time, lol.0 -
I was out for drinks with some of my gf's about 10 days ago. One of 'em had indicated she'd "quit working out". I said, 'why???' - since her shape had changed, DRAMATICALLY, in the last year (she WAS heavy lifting - but NOT doing compound exercises, she was using machines - and she WAS doing TONS of cardio). Her response, "my calves grew to the size of softballs...."
Ummmmm, something is WRONG in that equation. I'm convinced that if she had done something like NROL4W, her calves would have remaind proportionate to the rest of her shape-change. Instead, I'm betting her "machines" ended up doing TONS of calf work, and not a lot of upper leg work, or torso work. So, yes, she developed ONE muscle over-the-top.
(I didn't see softball size calves on her on the day I saw her, either. Plus, she smokes....she wasn't gonna get too far for too long with ANY program, imho.)0 -
jlhudy - I'm glad to read that you are doing the 12 work-outs in Stage 7.....I want the company. I want the shared misery.0
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Girl, seriously, had this same conversation with myself last night. First, I did NOT weigh myself because like I need any more motivation to not continue? But I *did* take measurements and am still hanging onto that .75-1" I've GAINED on my already ginormous thighs since mid APRIL (they look worse in real life that picturesDoesn't it make sense having deficit of at least 500 every day for the past 2 months (with the exception of maybe 3 days at maintenance) a person would have LOST weight? This is killing me people! The deficit is calculated per body media.
I don't wanna go hungry but that is the ONLY way I have lost weight. I eat 1200 and don't eat exercise calories but once I start eating more I gain it all back. So does that mean my body requires only 1200?
UGH! Why does this have to be a struggle! I have a couple friends(in real life) who are dropping weight like crazy. Yes they are eating bird size portions and I don't want to be like that. I like food .
Tomorrow I will finish up stage 4. Take a week ish break from lifting and do some cardio. and yes, I know. It's not about the scales. I just needed to rant because it doesn't make sense.). It's bull.
I'm skipping stage 6 (may do the program again next year and include it depending on where I am fat wise) and if I do Stage 7 once, I'll finish over Labor Day weekend. I'm planning on doing Stage 7 twice because it seems much more of a fat burning stage plus I firmly decided last night that I"m doing Insanity when I'm done with this. I'm going to Mexico the week of October 21st and I want as much fat gone as possible and if I do Stage 7 twice, the timing will be perfect for the rest week between month 1 and month 2 of Insanity. I should finish it around Thanksgiving and then I'll circle back around to a lifting program. I mentally feel better with this plan. Haha!
So.......anyone actually done Insanity? My husband is doing it now and damn, it's pretty brutal looking! I'm kinda scared!
My husband is. I won't, I think I would feel overwhelmed trying to do both.
I have the same issue too. I actually have been looking at the group Eat More to Weigh Less ( http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less )because I'm convinced I've wrecked my metabolism over the years due to all the crazy crash diets and eating so stupidly. I'm not quite daring enough to eat the way they suggest yet, but honestly, I just don't lose weight. I am hovering between 158- 161, and it's as frustrating as all get out. Yup, lifting is changing my shape but I want to get 20 pounds off and nope it's not going anywhere. So for the moment, I'm just not worrying about it. Once i get through NROL4W, I will see what has happened. It may be that all the new muscle will increase my metabolism enough that I begin losing weight. If not, I'll talk to a doc and see if there's something else going on wtih me.0 -
Oh NROL4W how I am missing you, first of all I was away last week and the little local gym near by didn't have any free weights, so I thought OK one week won't hurt just keep walking and running everyday and then pick it up when I get back, Monday this week should have been first day back on it and then bam! FLU!!!! its Thursday now and the fever has finally broken, just feel so weak and all I want to do is exercise exercise *crying face*!!!
thank you mini rant over
Sorry, girlie! I hope recover quickly. The program will be there when you regain your strength. The flu is nothing to play around with it. Get better and then worry about the exercise. If you come back too soon you'll be down again.
I understand you want to get back at it. I am not fussing at you. :flowerforyou: Just saying, get better and then we'll kick your booty. :bigsmile:0 -
cushy, I do it 3 times a week. Never decreased the amount of days UNLESS life got in the way that week.
Jnh, it's frustrating, isn't it. I go through this every few weeks. LOL
jihudy, oh , I am not eating 1200 calories right now. I was saying that's what I did previously to lose weight. While lifting, I eat around 1300-1700. I never try to go above 1800. Each day varies.
Thanks, Beeps. I needed your butt kicking. I am also repeating stage 7. I hope to do it before my vacation in Sept. Of course, yall will be finished by then.
Sue, I joined that group but I just don't know if I can eat 2000+ calories. That's how I became overweight. People were gaining 10 pounds and inches. Mentally, I can not do that. That would really send me over the edge.0 -
Beeps, I'm measuring decently close to the same spot but really, the bottom line is that no part of my thigh should be 27". I do think I've lost some in my lower thighs (maybe) but they're definately looking better. My shorts are fitting tighter though because of those damn saddle bags!0
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Jnh, where do you measure for thighs? I measure right below the saddle bag and The trainer told me to measure the saddlebag with the hips. (of course, he didn't use the term saddlebag :laugh: He is more tactful than that)
Wish I could afford liposuction. The saddlebags would be GONE!0 -
Maniac, Check out my diary. Yes there is some very "unclean foods" on there still. But I AVERAGE 2k DAILY!! 15 lbs 16 inches gone. You may want to listen to what the "eat more" people have to say. I got on the scale today because I felt light this morning for some strange reason. Since TOM I was up about 2 lbs. Back at 145.2. I have exactly maintained for 2 months eating at maintenance. Go figure LOL I eat back EVERY calorie. And I managed to loose another inch total during stage 4. Beeps is 100% correct about measuring in the SAME spot every time. TRicky to do.cushy, I do it 3 times a week. Never decreased the amount of days UNLESS life got in the way that week.
Jnh, it's frustrating, isn't it. I go through this every few weeks. LOL
jihudy, oh , I am not eating 1200 calories right now. I was saying that's what I did previously to lose weight. While lifting, I eat around 1300-1700. I never try to go above 1800. Each day varies.
Thanks, Beeps. I needed your butt kicking. I am also repeating stage 7. I hope to do it before my vacation in Sept. Of course, yall will be finished by then.
Sue, I joined that group but I just don't know if I can eat 2000+ calories. That's how I became overweight. People were gaining 10 pounds and inches. Mentally, I can not do that. That would really send me over the edge.
I'm actually feeling pretty down today. I needed you guys to talk me off the ledge so to speak. If I were a drinking woman... Unfortunately I am a chocolate woman. luckily there is none in the house. Yes I have great results I guess, but with hyper focusing on myself and my body and what I need, everything else fell through the cracks. I lack the ability to juggle and I just don't have the energy. So While I decided to make 2012 about ME, I find that I've neglected my responsibility at HOME. Kids are a mess, house is embarrassingly a mess, can't remember when I last balanced my check book or organized my budget and I just got an estimate for $3500 worth of dental work on my FIVE-YEAR-OLD WTF!!! Needlessly to say I am feeling whoa-fully inadequate and just a little depressed.0 -
jnh - are you sure your thighs are getting bigger?? Maybe your butt/saddlebags are LIFTING, and therefore more girth (as opposed to sagging, right?)
manic - I disagree with your trainer. I measure my hips by going RIGHT around the TOP of the hip bone. That sucker isn't going to move. So, I find it everytime and measure there. Remember, if you KEEP measuring at the WIDEST area, that means you are MOVING YOUR MEASUREMENTS AROUND. (Yanicka had an AMAZING post about this a few months back, with diagrams showing what she meant, and everything.....maybe I'll go ask her to come post it here.)
samntha - OFF THE LEDGE FOR YOU! *Balance* is the BANE of us ALL! It's okay to be "working on YOU" - you matter most and you come first. As your happiness quotient increases, you'll start turning your attention back, outward, and it will ALL BE RIGHT THERE. Right where you left it. Waiting for you. Precious you!!!!!!0 -
.....although I will comment that I think $3,500 of dental work on a 5-year-old would be a clear "no" item, for me - unless it was a life-or-death repair issue!0
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Sam, take a deep breath. The housework will ALWAYS be there. Your health and family take priority over that. $3500 dental work? What kind of dentist are you going to? that seems pretty steep for baby teeth. I get another opinion and ask about alternatives.
I am up to 159 today. That doesn't make me happy at all. I did have chinese buffet yesterday so it has to be the sodium.
Beeps, I guess I can start measuring at the hip bone. NO reason not to .0 -
jlhudy - I'm glad to read that you are doing the 12 work-outs in Stage 7.....I want the company. I want the shared misery.
Hmm I made a post and it disappeared, hope this one doesn't come up twice.
Anyway Beeps/jlhudy, I've decided to be brave and do 2 rounds of stage 7 too. It will take me up to my break in mid aug. My problem is I am inherently lazy and thus HATE cardio (which stage 7 kind of is). So please please please don't let myself talk myself out of it next week when I finish the first round!0 -
Jnh, where do you measure for thighs? I measure right below the saddle bag and The trainer told me to measure the saddlebag with the hips. (of course, he didn't use the term saddlebag :laugh: He is more tactful than that)
Wish I could afford liposuction. The saddlebags would be GONE!
I've always measured at the biggest part. Probably not terribly scientific but I figured the biggest place would always be the biggest place? See where the muscle ends and it looks like a totally different person's leg on the top half? About right there...
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