Chat room - what's on your mind?
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@Curvykinkycurls I saw that news, but it was only an abstract at a conference (could be less than solid). Personally I’m not tempted to fast (prefer frequent and regular meals).
@Maya440 I hope your starting to feel better.1 -
@Curvykinkycurls regarding that piece of news about intermittent fasting and heart issues, I have to wonder what kind of diet the participants in the study were on. Because IF is very popular amongst the keto and carnivore communities! I would bet money that the heart complications they found are linked to diet more than IF. Personally after getting off keto and switching to mostly pescatarian (before going vegan) while still doing IF my cholesterol went down and my pre diabetes numbers went back to healthy and I’m no longer pre diabetic.
@Maya440 im sending you all the healing vibes!! I hope you feel much better soon.
I’m having a heck of a period and today was the first day I went over calories but I still tracked it all and I pushed myself to do a little basketball though I got way too nauseous and had to head home early. Not every day will be perfect.3 -
Oh and @Curvykinkycurls i switched to merry people boots for outdoor work because they have arch support and it doesn’t flare up my plantar fasciitis. I’m able to wear them all day with no pain. Definitely a great investment.1
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chelseynikole9618 wrote: »@Curvykinkycurls regarding that piece of news about intermittent fasting and heart issues, I have to wonder what kind of diet the participants in the study were on. Because IF is very popular amongst the keto and carnivore communities! I would bet money that the heart complications they found are linked to diet more than IF.
Nah. I'm pretty sure it was because they used nylon socks instead of cotton or wool....
It would be interesting to read more about this result to know whether or not it had any merit, but criticizing it without knowing the details is a fool's errand. My bogus suggestion it was about socks is just as valid as any other until/unless details are provided. Why assume that just because something is popular that it's healthy? And... IF is a way of eating, so if it's linked to IF then it is de facto linked to diet.
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@chelseynikole9618 I’m also back in period nightmare territory. It’s almost the only thing that derails me and the last two days were super derailed in terms of overeating in the evenings without tracking. I really hate this every month, because it makes me feel defeated and out of control. My feeling is that this month was extra bad, because I was already exhausted and running on fumes going in.1
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Thanks all for your thoughts. I do agree, I'm sceptical of the information I've read so far, there's not enough information about the individuals age/diet/health/hereditary conditions and we can all only do our best and make choices we feel fit with our own wellbeing and lifestyle.1
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@Curvykinkycurls I don’t understand how fasting can be bad for the heart. It is something the human body is designed for. I always see it as going into the freezer for ressources once in while, not just in the fridge. And it helps reduce the insuline resistance. But of course, it is better to be careful if you don’t feel confident.
Thank you all for your best wishes. I had to cancel the hiking trip after all. I am feeling far better but it would not have been reasonable. The stiches will be removed tonight, I hope it is not too painful.
Sorry to hear periods derail you ladies ☹
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So today I had to take my daughter to a classmates birthday party. There was vegetarian pizza (nothing vegan) and an open beer bar for the parents, but I made sure to eat some filling healthy vegan tacos before I went and brought my own sparkling zero cal drink so I wouldn’t be tempted to eat/drink socially. It was a huge NSV for myself.
Hope everyone is doing well!
I’ve hit a bit of a stall in my weight loss. In the first 2 weeks I dropped 9 pounds but the scale hasn’t moved since, and I’m on day 35. Wondering what to do next to try and get the scale moving down again or if I just need to be patient and trust the process.
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@chelseynikole9618, I'd endorse "be patient and trust the process", at least for another couple of weeks.
One common pattern is to drop weight fast during the first couple of weeks, partly fat but partly water (from the change in eating patterns). Then the next couple weeks can be rebalancing of the water weight/water retention, which masks continuing fat loss on the scale. That's especially likely if the person has increased exercise alongside cutting calories, since increased exercise tends to increase water retention.
On top of that, if you have monthly cycles, hormone-related water retention shifts can confuse matters further. (That's why it's common advice here to women to compare body weight at the same relative point in at least two different monthly cycles in order to assess weight loss rate.)
Essentially, it's looking like 9 pounds loss in about 5 weeks, which is almost two pounds a week on average - that's a good rate, overall.
Hang in there, I'm guessing you'll see a scale drop soon!2 -
@chelseynikole9618
It depends a bit on the specifics (eg how you’re eating activity calories back, how fast do you plan to lose - i.e., what’s your deficit). I’m also on the slow loser side (it’s a lifestyle change) and often plateau for several weeks before losing. It can take some time finding the right deficit and approach to figuring in exercise calories. Patience is helpful, especially considering cycle related changes as well (I was almost five pounds heavier after my last period, a few days later, 3.5 are already gone again, but 1.5 remain…it’s not unusual to have a pretty large range as a female).1 -
@AnnPT77 & @henridw2095 thank y’all for this! I am going to just stay patient. Considering I had a 9 day weird extra period when I first started this lifestyle change, and just ended my Normal period, AND I’ve been exercising every day since I’ve started this journey, I know these are all factors to consider.1
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Hey, look what came in the mail!
Now to get cracking on some new recipes, lol.
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@Trillium54 excited to hear what you will try first! I do love the vegan parmesan substitute on page 27 (I think).0
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@henridw2095 : I found that recipe! It has nutritional yeast in it--something I have never used before. I'm not sure I can find it but will go looking as it seems to be in a fair number of recipes. What does it do?0
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Trillium54 wrote: »@henridw2095 : I found that recipe! It has nutritional yeast in it--something I have never used before. I'm not sure I can find it but will go looking as it seems to be in a fair number of recipes. What does it do?
It has some umami flavor. I like it. It also has fiber and is actually a complete protein. I'm sure you will be able to find it. I buy it in bulk, but I've seen it in packages at Trader Joe's. It's a byproduct of the brewing process.0 -
Trillium54 wrote: »@henridw2095 : I found that recipe! It has nutritional yeast in it--something I have never used before. I'm not sure I can find it but will go looking as it seems to be in a fair number of recipes. What does it do?
It has some umami flavor. I like it. It also has fiber and is actually a complete protein. I'm sure you will be able to find it. I buy it in bulk, but I've seen it in packages at Trader Joe's. It's a byproduct of the brewing process.
It also usually has vitamin B-12 added, which you would need to supplement if fully plant-based, so look for a brand that has the B-12 unless you're already supplementing that in some other way.
It's very useful: It can be sprinkled on or mixed into a lot of things, as well as being used in recipes.
Some people describe the taste as "cheesy". I like it myself, too.0 -
@Trillium54 Agreed with others, nutritional yeast is worth finding, both for the nutrition and for the flavor…I sprinkle it on lots of things too (scrambled tofu, for example), but also pasta, and avocado toast.0
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I use Bragg’s nutritional yeast, that’s the only one I can ever seem to find at the grocery store. Though I know Bob’s Red Mill makes one too. I use it often in creamy pasta dishes!0
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I’m on day two of what I think is a sinus infection. This spring season my allergies are worse than ever. I’m bummed because I haven’t been able to work out, ten minutes on my new stair stepper and I was so winded because I cannot breathe through my nose at all 😭 what sucks too is that when my seasonal allergies are bad, it causes me to have allergic reactions to certain foods like nuts, peppers, and anything spicy - I’m talking puffy face, red flush, itchy throat, puffy tongue- the whole thing! Today I had an awful reaction to a spicy black bean patty.
On the plus side, I am taking this as an opportunity to go back on an elimination diet to identify trigger foods as someone who suffers from food allergies and chronic inflammation due to auto immune issues! Hope everyone is having a good day and has a great weekend 😊2 -
Oh so sorry for you @chelseynikole9618
I hope it doesn't last too long1 -
Thanks @Maya440
I appreciate it! Honestly I’m on day 3 and finally caved and got some over the counter meds and it’s helping a lot. Along with coconut water and the miso soup I just made. I should be better soon.3 -
@chelseynikole9618 : I hope you're feeling better!
Thanks for all the info on the Nutritional Yeast. I went to the store and saw exactly one brand, lol. I live in the sticks. I didn't get it because it was flakes not the ground up kind and I was kind of confused--again. It probably doesn't make a difference I would think, tho. I might order some online.1 -
Trillium54 wrote: »@chelseynikole9618 : I hope you're feeling better!
Thanks for all the info on the Nutritional Yeast. I went to the store and saw exactly one brand, lol. I live in the sticks. I didn't get it because it was flakes not the ground up kind and I was kind of confused--again. It probably doesn't make a difference I would think, tho. I might order some online.
Flakes should be fine IMO. It kind of dissolves.
Not sure if this applies to you in the sticks, but I've noticed that nutritional yeast will be stocked in different places in different stores, sometimes even multiple places in the same store (possibly with different brands in each place). I've seen it near spices/seasonings, in vegetarian/vegan foods sections in stores that have that as a section, and in various places in supplement stores or aisles (protein, vitamin, sports supplement sections, that I can recall). It can be in health food stores, grocery stores, drugstores.
Online is reliable, though!2 -
I also only use the flakes…they disappear or add nice texture if sprinkled on something cold.1
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I prefer the flakes, but often will buy the smaller stuff if it's on sale.1
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@AnnPT77 : Oof, did not think of a health food store! We have a couple here--I'll see if the yeast is available. And if it is, it has the B vits.
All: From all your responses (thank-you!
) I think I might try the flakes now, lol. 1 -
I too use the flakes! I didn’t realize there were other kinds lol. 😂
I’m finally feeling better. It was a nasty sickness though. Ready to get back to some normal workouts tomorrow.
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So good that you are feeling better.
I have stopped counting calories recently (this weekend) and I am focusing on my nutrition plan, tracking on paper.
I don’t want to gain weight. I will see how it goes.
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I haven't stopped tracking in the six plus years since I started.
Sometimes I have to make estimates. I do wilderness travel, mostly by raft but also by canoe. We share meal prep. I used to go on a dive boat for five days in the summer, and food was provided. When I'm on a trip like that, I just make a guess. I have a couple "recipes" in my diary for "Rafter Rations" and "SCUBA Diver Rations" that are just a mix of fat, carb, and protein. I log that in lieu of actually trying to parse out meals for a week or a month. If I eat out, I try to guess what I eat since it's just ONE meal. Otherwise, anything I make myself gets logged more meticulously. I use a food scale for almost everything.
My calorie expenditure goes up and down day to day, so I also log my activity. I actually let a tracking device do that.
So I'll probably always track. I bet you if I stopped, I'd gain weight (fat). I'm not going to make that bet because I'd have to stop tracking, and the risk is too high.1 -
I still track most of the time (year 8 of maintenance). During loss and early months of maintenance, I tracked like it was religion. (I'm glad I did, because my personal logging data told me that MFP is waaaaay off in its calorie estimate for me. That's not common, but it can happen.) I tried a week or two without logging at one point, and it was kind of a train wreck. (I'm not saying it would be for anyone else. This is definitely n=1 territory.)
I'm profoundly an undisciplined hedonist, want to eat every single delicious calorie I'm entitled to . . . but I want to keep at a healthy weight, because that greatly improves my quality of life vs. being obese. Counting helps me balance short term happiness with long term happiness.
If I don't log, one of two things happens: Hedonist me eats too much, therefore cr*ps on future me (I did that for decades) . . . or anxiety about gain makes me eat less than I could, so I lose weight - that's not bad in itself, but it hacks off my inner hedonist (retrospective FOMO?).
For me, logging balances those two tendencies very conveniently.
These days, I do skip some days that would be wild estimates, or occasional days where I'm very busy or the like, but those aren't the usual thing. I know that the majority of my days will cause the majority of my outcome, so I log most days.
I also like having the nutritional detail, so I can hit my goals there most of the time: 100g protein minimum, 50g fat minimum, 400g fruit/veggie minimum (ideally more like 800g), 25g fiber, hit the MFP-tracked micros on average over the week, balance MUFAs/PUFAs with sat fats, balance O-3 and O-6, get some food-sourced probiotics. Logging keeps my eyes on those prizes.
As a vegetarian, I know that good nutrition requires slightly more conscious thought than it would for even whole-foods-ish omnivores. Besides that, I'm a data geek in other ways. (That's my nature, but it was amplified by my profession.) The "measure what you want to manage" platitude works well.
Others will differ, and that's as it should be. 4
