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that being said...
Ok does anybody know what is going on with the ab work in the later stage? I was laying out my planner for stage 5 last night and was scratching my head at 3 set of FOUR crunches. Seems like a complete waste of time. I usually push 10 but I have no idea what Schuler's thinking is here.
Abs are my trouble area, so it will either be NROL4ABS or NROL4L next for me.0 -
Sam, i thought the same and ended up totally customising it. See my post on the subject in the stage 5 thread if you like, it was about 2 weeks ago.0
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Thanks Jen. I was reading it yesterday LOL0
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I'm a bit puzzled about stage 7, looks like the B set is a quick superset of 4 different exercises with 30 secs between each set- how am I supposed to swap the weights around on my dumbells/barbell and catch my breath in that time?!?
I'm thinking of splitting them into 2 supersets of 2 (instead of all 4), so I can pair something without weights (like pushups) with something with weights, so I don't need to be adjusting my plates non-stop, how does that sound?
In other news, went out to dinner and ate a ton, so I'd better be on form tomorrow when i start this stage!0 -
Stage 7 ---FOUR sets of 15-20 reps!!:noway: How in the world are we gonna do that without decreasing weights? or keep our weight and take as long as it takes to get it done.
I have pulled a muscle in my right quad or I'm super sore. Feeling good though. I get weary of this workout especially during TOM. I love the structure.0 -
Such young babes.... I am 40. It feels like I aged over night. I can't remember when getting out bed wasn't a pain. (ha! double play on the word pain ) I lay there now dread moving.
Off to the gym for Stage 4 WOB1
OMG I'm listening to y'all in your 30s and 40s talking about DOM and stiff and sore... I'm 60 and I roll out of bed every day! It takes me a good 30 minutes to psych myself up to start the workouts cuz I KNOW what I'll feel like later! I don't feel so bad about all these aches and owies, and Beeps, I like the company too.
I haven't lifted since Tuesday. My kids have been here from Ohio for the week, our days were crammed full and while I did get in a whole lot of walking, I had zero time to lift. I'm going to start in the morning with Stage 1 #4A.
I have to say though that my right quad is still pretty sore, and lunges especially are hard to do correctly on that leg. I don't want to injure that thing, likewise, I'm don't want to wimp out on it either. Anyone else have that situation, and how did you know when enough was enough?0 -
Being a little stiff and sore is ok. You have to understand your body and know what is just muscle tenderness and what is an actual injury. If it's just a DOM effect. then working out will actually make it feel better.Such young babes.... I am 40. It feels like I aged over night. I can't remember when getting out bed wasn't a pain. (ha! double play on the word pain ) I lay there now dread moving.
Off to the gym for Stage 4 WOB1
OMG I'm listening to y'all in your 30s and 40s talking about DOM and stiff and sore... I'm 60 and I roll out of bed every day! It takes me a good 30 minutes to psych myself up to start the workouts cuz I KNOW what I'll feel like later! I don't feel so bad about all these aches and owies, and Beeps, I like the company too.
I haven't lifted since Tuesday. My kids have been here from Ohio for the week, our days were crammed full and while I did get in a whole lot of walking, I had zero time to lift. I'm going to start in the morning with Stage 1 #4A.
I have to say though that my right quad is still pretty sore, and lunges especially are hard to do correctly on that leg. I don't want to injure that thing, likewise, I'm don't want to wimp out on it either. Anyone else have that situation, and how did you know when enough was enough?0 -
I don't think my pain is DOM because it doesn't hurt until I do a lunge or squat. After resting today, I hope it will be fine by tomorrow.
sue, I agree with Sam, we just need to listen to our body. it's better to be "safe than sorry".0 -
I'm listening to my body right now, it's calling me rude words for doing stage 7 this morning. a total of 60 lunges each side, plus 60 romanian DLs = totally seized up glutes and hammies! Pain..... still stretching but it's getting worse.
Definite day off tomorrow.0 -
I don't think my pain is DOM because it doesn't hurt until I do a lunge or squat. After resting today, I hope it will be fine by tomorrow.
sue, I agree with Sam, we just need to listen to our body. it's better to be "safe than sorry".
I'm thinking mine isn't either. I'll see how I feel doing squats tomorrow, though they haven't been hurting, only the lunges when I'm leading on my left leg and dropping my right knee.
Owie Jen! Manic hope yours clears up.0 -
Sue if it's the one knee, you may want to have it checked out or try a brace for it to prevent injury.
Soooo.....I did the first workout of stage 5. Yeah that was pretty intense. Tough driving stick when you can't feel your legs. It took a full 1.5 hours doing the 4 sets, but my BWM times are way down. Who'd'a thunk! Would I be totally wimping out if I use the incline press machine because I got the 30dbs up with a bit of a struggle, but I felt I could do 35, but had nobody to help. I really don't feel comfortable asking some random guy walking around to help me. Pretty sure he'll think I'm hitting on him LOL
Not nearly as intense as stage 7 though. WOW Jen, yeah rest up and maybe have a good soak.
I do have to say that I LOVE going to the gym at 5pm on a Sunday. NOBODY was there. Though the place was a mess and still took a minute to find my dbs.
We are going to Six Flags again tomorrow. I think the water park this time. Lots of walking and standing in the sun, but maybe I'll get a chance to soak in a nice hot tub as well
PS: if you are now or have finished Stage 5, come visit me other in the thread. I'm lonely over there
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I have an idea for you , Sam! Repeat stage 4 and a few of us will go to stage 5 with you. :laugh:0
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Damn, these stage 2 workouts are killing me. I'm wondering how sore I'll be for these other stages y'all say are whoopin your behinds!
The last two workouts I've been sore for THREE days. I've made some pretty super increases, and my lunge replacements are pretty serious, but three days? Jeez. My foam roller has been getting tons of action lately. I'm wondering if it's because my protein has been sporadic lately. Huge numbers one day, then piddly numbers the next. Urrg. Probably.
I'll never do it again, body. Promise.
Have fun at six flags, Sam. I'm JEALOUS. Love waterparks somuch!0 -
THanks funbun and Maniac. I'm always super sore the first week of a stage and then it tapers off. I AM feeling it today though.0
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I'm *still* too sore to lift, today.....I did lift on Friday and felt good. By Saturday, my IT band was saying, "HUH??" and yesterday, my IT band just was soooooooooooo sore. I think if I push it, today, I'm gonna rip that band. So, I need to give it another day. That depresses me, but I really do NOT want to be injured.
I am finding Stage 7 to be a REAL BEAR.....yes, I've gone WAY down in all my weights, to make sure I can get in all the reps. Yes, it *is* a true cardio work-out as my heart rate just climbs, and climbs, and CLIMBS, until I'm dizzy and have to take MUCH longer rests (than the suggested 30s). I think it's a good stage....I'm learning about my body and what it can do. And, yes, push-ups, pull-ups and chin-ups were also my goals for NROL4W. I'm not there, even yet.
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Still, once I'm done Stage 7, I'm actually going to just TRY a pull-up (nobody watching!) and try push-ups from the floor to see if I can do more than 4 of them in a row. (I know I can do 4.)0 -
I didn't roll on Friday, following my work-out - just plain forgot. So, I *know* that is one reason my IT band just bit the dust. The other reason is that Friday's work-out included "squats with heels on plates" - a move I've never done. So, there I am, deciding to plunge my "*kitten*-to-the-grass" in a show-off way (because I only grabbed 15 lb DB's and felt like a sissy with those).
I *know* my body was NOT prepared to do 60 reps of *kitten*-to-grass....simple as that. And, my IT band has just suffered ever since. I'm glad I don't have to do that particular work-out for 3 more times, lol.
But, today's work-out should have included lunges - and I just don't think I can do 60 proper lunges given my IT band. So, I wait.
Bummed out. A walk outside it is!0 -
I can tell I have been increasing weights and pushing myself. I CAN'T GET ENOUGH TO EAT! That's a good thing, right?
Beeps, what is IT? I'm sorry you are having a horrible time. OH, and you WILL get that pull up. :flowerforyou:0 -
"The iliotibial (IT) band is a tough group of fibers that run along the outside of the
thigh." (from google)
TOO SORE.0 -
learning2fly - welcome!!! There is a good mix of people in this group so you will get a lot of varied answers in regards to cardio. I do very little cardio - walking or yoga 2-3 times a week.
Misery loves company - so glad I'm not the only one thats sore. Finally started feeling less sore over the weekend, just in time for workout 4A2 this morning. Hopefully those lunges don't do me in again.
I've noticed the same thing on the amount of people in later stages dwindling. I plan on switching to stronglifts in October after I've completed New Rules. I really like the bigger compound lifts. I was actually just considering switching after Stage 5, but I committed myself to completing this program when I started it, so I will see it through. There is plenty of time to do other programs - this is for life, right!0 -
OK, so who is still here doing the later stages (6 and 7) other than me, Beeps and Missmaggie? Hope there's a few of us! I'm not going to defect to Stronglifts until I've got this b******** nailed.
I had to google IT band too, strangely I've never hurt there. However I currently have the worst glute/hammy DOMS i have EVER had. Can barely stand up/walk if i sit still for too long. Foam roller is not an option, it's tooooo painful. And now I'm on 4 x 12 hour night shifts with no time for even a gentle walk (even if i could, lol). That was from stage 7 WO1. Workout 2 can wait till Friday i think.
Will just have to sit here all night and roll around on my butt muscles a bit!0 -
OK, so who is still here doing the later stages (6 and 7) other than me, Beeps and Missmaggie? Hope there's a few of us! I'm not going to defect to Stronglifts until I've got this b******** nailed.
I've just met someone new in the Stage 6 thread. Yippee!!!0 -
I only did 1/2 of Stage 6 - I just kept re-injuring my left shoulder/neck/back region. So, I moved onto Stage 7. I do want to get back to Stage 6, when I'm done Stage 7, though.
I'm glad you gals are toughing it out! I think it's worth it!0 -
I hope my bottom half is least a size smaller when I'm finished with this . So far the only size that has changed is my shirts and that INCREASED.
Beeps, I looked the IT up because I thought maybe that's what I have. My pain is on the middle of my outer quad. I bombed the Bulgarian split squats. 2 sets and I was done. It only hurts on lunges and squats. It doesn't affect my knee so it isn't the IT band. Must be a pulled /strained muscle.0 -
"The iliotibial (IT) band is a tough group of fibers that run along the outside of the
thigh." (from google)
TOO SORE.
Oh that's exactly what is hurting me! Right leg right side slightly front. So I will go find a foam roller, but please explain what's the best way to use this to ease this!0 -
Mary - have you considered seeing a chiropractor? Could be any number of things related to that as well. When my hips are out of alignment I can get pain down my legs.0
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Ha, this is the DOMS thread right now--it's only 12 hours after I finished my first stage 4 workout and I'm already feeling the lunges in my glutes. I love that feeling (might not love it tomorrow when walking down stairs is a nightmare).
I have outer thigh/hip issues too--on my right side. Deep tissue massage helped a lot--I had 2 full days with no pain after my last massage. Wish I had the money/time to do that more often (like every week). But I should stretch much more on my own, too. There just isn't enough time in the day for all the stuff I want to do for my body!0 -
Mary - have you considered seeing a chiropractor? Could be any number of things related to that as well. When my hips are out of alignment I can get pain down my legs.
No, I really haven't thought about it. Maybe if I get my kids fixed and back together there will be time for me. Youngest child has an orthodontist appt tomorrow, Wednesday son must take Residual ACT test, oldest child is still having issues with the tonsillectomy, and Friday we are going to the beach. So somewhere in there I must do my workouts and clean house ((sigh)).
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Glad to see all of you toughing out the end and hanging in there...even if we all are in different stages.
My husband used to do deep tissue massage for race recovery. He loved it, but like you said too expensive to do to often. There was a place right next door to his old job, but now it's not worth the time or expense for him...so he makes me rub his legs every night.
We spent the day at a water park and let me tel you that carrying those heavy tubes up ALL those steps was a hell of a workout. After doing BWM yesterday my thighs were screaming at me. I'm sure I'm better off though then just sitting around and getting tight. Back tot he gym tomorrow and I'm so excited to be able to do Zumba on my new schedule. I may keep it like this in the fall when I go back to work.0 -
Woke up, hurts to walk, went to gym, struggled through workout. Raised some weight but not much for 5B1. Thighs are SCREAMING! hurt to bend over with legs pushing on the back extension apparatus. Partial Squats were a joke. Raised YTWL to 7.5 dbs for 15lbs woo hoo on that at least. OWWWWWIEEEEE
I'm logging my workout in the stage 5 thread for prosperity, those ladies in the future who may want to know.0 -
I cannot wait to get to the next stages of this workout! I'm only in stage 1 and I already feel like a beast at the gym! LOVING NROL4W! However, I have been getting killer cramps in my calves? (esp when doing step-ups in the leg I'm not working) and then again at night while sleeping. Any thoughts on why and how to get rid of it?0
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