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  • Pmagnanifit
    Pmagnanifit Posts: 665 Member
    Dna can I get the recipe?

    Beeps you got this

    Runza it sounds like a nice evening with your hubby

    Jo my DH is like yours in terms of exercise
  • dnamouse
    dnamouse Posts: 612 Member
    Pmag, it's not exact, so play around with it lol

    1 can coconut milk or cream
    approx 1 tbsp tapioca flour (arrowroot) or something similar that will help with thickening
    approx 20 billion probiotic thingys (that equated to about 2-3 capsules for me, you open them and use the powder inside.

    (yeah, I am so technical with these things :tongue: :laugh: )


    Heat up milk/cream to just before boiling. Mix in flour.
    Allow to cool a little, transfer to a clean container and then stir in probiotic.

    I have an EasiYo container (basically a great big thermos), so I put boiling water in that and put in the container with the yoghurt mix and let it do it's thing overnight (8-10 hours). In general terms, you just need a place to keep it warm overnight. A friend has wrapped hers in a towel and left it by the kid's heater overnight and apparently that worked a treat as well. I've also seen a glass container used and it left in an oven on the 'keep warm' setting.

    Put in fridge in the morning until cool. And then eat!

    Obviously, cream will be a thicker yoghurt than milk. It's all a bit of trial and error really.
  • DouMc
    DouMc Posts: 1,689 Member
    Welcome back Sue. I hope you had a good holiday. Have you gotten your shoulder checked out? I hope its nothing serious.

    Jo, your squat PB is amazing!! I am looking forward to doing back squats again and seeing what I can lift but at the end of stage 1 it was very little.

    bepee, congrats on 365 days logging! what amazing commitment!

    I weigh in almost every day too. Not sure why I bother since the scale hasn't been moving since November. But yesterday I weighted myself and I am down 2 lbs!! I weighed in again this morning and I am still down (the last time I lost a pound the next day the scale went back up and stayed there) so I'm pretty excited about that.

    Red, how is the yoga going for you? I am sick of running too and having been doing it since stage 2, now I am just going for long walks on my non lifting days. I have been considering doing yoga but I can't find any free videos on the internet that aren't really annoying to listen to. Does anyone have any suggestions? ...oh never mind, I just found the Tara Stiles one that you mentioned before!

    Jo, your description of talking to your other half about exercise stuff made me laugh. Thats exactly what it is like for me. I talk and he nods and say something along the lines of 'yes dear' while I'm jumping up and down with excitement shouting 'BUT I ALMOST DEADLIFTED MY BODYWEIGHT!!!' He just doesn't get it. He does tell me he's proud of me but he is not too interested in the details. Doesn't stop me from dissecting every gym session at him when I get home though! :smile:

    dna, the yoghurt sounds delicious!
  • marieann82
    marieann82 Posts: 150 Member
    Jamaica- Awesome work sticking to your goals. Keep it up!

    Beeps- When is "diner en blanc"? Cannot wait to hear about the secret location.

    Bepee- Awesome commitment to MFP and logging. Very inspiring!

    Redlipstick- Today is day 6 of whole30. So far I am doing very well. I went through a slight "Kill all the things" stage on day 2 but since then I've been really chill. I would love some crockpot recipes! Thanks!

    Samantha- So glad your mammogram came back with good results. I just went in for my first because I felt a lump. It really isn't that bad--not as bad as I have heard. They ended up doing an ultrasound and now I need to go back for a biopsy. I am trying not to worry until I have something to worry about--but waiting until Monday is a drag.

    Two more workouts in phase 2. I will have to take a 48 hour break from working out after my biopsy but I will start Phase 3 when I have been cleared. Good luck, ladies. Keep lifting heavy things...
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    marieann, diner en blanc is TOMORROW!

    Soooooooooo, tomorrow I won't lift and tomorrow will be ALL ABOUT preserving the white-ness of my outfit, lol! No spillage! Likely will only eat protein bars to make sure no stains!

    Monday and Tuesday were perfect! Low-calorie! Weight-training! And walking in the evenings!

    So, going for the 3-peat, TODAY.

    BOOM!

    Go lift heavy things, gals!!!!
  • BarbellCowgirl
    BarbellCowgirl Posts: 1,271 Member
    Marieann, I hope you get good results. Keep trying not to stress!

    DouMc, I hope the weight stays off! I hate the scale, but I still step on it way too often.

    Runz, enjoy your date!

    Jo, so you squatted more than your body weight? That's amazing! My squats are my worst lift.

    I'm trying to decide whether to lift today or tomorrow. I think tomorrow works better in terms of scheduling. I should probably do some HIIT today.
  • jamaicanlady
    jamaicanlady Posts: 878 Member
    beeps, yes you will lose those 15lbs! I'm there with you! (Although for me it's about 10 I think) And I love your "try it out Tuesday" idea. I'm going to incorporate that into one of my workout days. There are exercises I've never tried but would love to.

    runz, don't care about the scale?? Blasphemy I tell ya! LOL! MAJOR props to you. As you mention it, think I will try some P90X Yoga today. Let's see if I can survive 20 mins of it.

    jo, my BF sounds like your husband. He plays soccer once a week and that's it. I convinced him to buy one of those all-in-one gym thingys because he has no interest in going to the gym at all. But he doesn't even use it! Ah well. I'm hoping when we live together I can get him to do more.

    marieann, sending good vibes your way!

    And for you ladies who think your husbands are not listening, that's what I thought about my BF too. He looks bored when I talk about nutrition and macros and squatting with proper form and all that other stuff. And he hates how I weigh everything. But surprise surprise. Last night he told me that when he was at work yesterday, some of the ladies were talking about losing weight. One lady was lamenting that she had been working out for 3 weeks now and hadn't lost even one lb. So he told her that I TOLD HIM that losing weight/fat is 80% your diet and 20% exercise. He also goes on to tell them how I weigh my food and keep a log of it all. In relaying the story to me, he actually sounded pretty proud of me!!! Amazing. I'm still in shock because to see his face when I'm weighing my food, you'd think the food scale was his sworn enemy.
  • jamaicanlady
    jamaicanlady Posts: 878 Member
    Anyway, the past 3 days (Sun-Tue) have seen me on a carb overload. And I don't mean brown rice and sweet potato. I'm talking about cookies, potato chips and doritos. Why does pre-menstrual cravings (PMC) happen? Anyway, TOM arrived last night and I no longer feel like I need chips or I'm going to cry. I think I'm going to start preparing for PMC by baking clean protein-filled cookies right before. Despite having a bad start to the week, I'm not writing it off like I usually do. Going to fight to make up for it the remaining days I have.
  • Semarshman
    Semarshman Posts: 19
    HI Everyone,
    Just a quick question. I am almost finished phase 1, and am just reading about phase 2. So I understand there are the lifting routines and the HIIT routines. Are we supposed to do a lifitng routine and a HIIT routine at every workout? Do we split them up? Do HIIT in the morning and Lift in the afternoon? Or do one on Monday and one on Tuesday?

    Thanks
    Sarah
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    BBCowgirl....I don't even do squats anymore! As soon as I discovered that my lack of progress has more to do with my body-mechanics (i.e. short torso and long limbs) AND that this lift didn't do ANYTHING for my butt, I decided to put "squat time" into moves that actually benefitted MY BODY. I remain jealous of all the HUGE squatters out there....I won't be one of 'em....

    jamaican...wow, if your bf IS listening, then you have to be DOUBLY sure that what you are saying is ACCURATE/COMPLETE, lol!! Yikes!

    I am OFF carbs....totally off....and, while it is ALWAYS a struggle that first day or two....after that, I find it is totally smooth sailing and the cravings for sugar (and salt) go all the way to the basement, for me. One more day...maybe 2....and I'll be GOLDEN.

    Semarshman - I think if you read through stage 2 it specifies where you do the HIIT. (Having said that, I did HIIT on my "off-lifting" days because I had NO energy to do it on lifting days....but I do NOT think that is what the NROL4W program calls for)
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    Sarah, Doing the HIIT on the second is fine if that's how your schedule allows. Later books encourage more cardio on non-lifting days. I have days where I skip the interval training and do zumba instead or the next day. In other get it in whenever you can. It is recommended that if you do Intervals or cardio on a lifting day, that you do it AFTER lifting so that you put max effort into lifting.

    I was short on time last night so I did my 45 minute routine in 30. Not sure how it actually happened. Warm up was less than 5 minutes, no cooldown, and not resting or stopping.
  • Ali_momof2
    Ali_momof2 Posts: 478 Member
    Jamaican, thats awesome that your BF listens & is proud of you. I try to avoid talking to mine about it.

    Everything I say is wrong & he knows it all since he's been lifting so long so I don't bother anymore unless I have a quick question & I'm not near my computer. Lets ingnore the fact that he's been dieting for I don't know how long & he's not getting anywhere, he's diet is crap. He doesn't keep track of anything, hates veggies & the amount of ketchup or bbq sauce he pours on everything is ridiculous, but he says American food is too bland for him.

    I tired an different HIIT, strength, kickboxing workout yesterday that nearly killed me. I didn't even have time to finish it & I workouted for an hr. Now I'm sore and I hope it doesn't affect my lifting tonight.

    Sarah, thanks for asking the question. I'm getting close to stage 2 and I didn't read anything about the HIIT yet. I should get reading so I know what I'm doing.

    Beeps, I hope you have a fantastic time at your diner, if worse comes to worse just spray some scotch guard all over and you can just wipe it right off :laugh: :drinker:
  • DouMc
    DouMc Posts: 1,689 Member
    Jamicanlady, that is very sweet that your boyfriend was so proud of you. it's nice to hear something like that when it seems that the person is sick to death of hearing you go on about weight loss (or at least that's how I feel!)

    Beeps, have fun at your dinner!

    Quick question: does anyone have trouble with their wrists while doing front squats? my wrists have hurt the last couple of times I have done them but today I couldn't finish the last set. I didn't go up in weights so I don't know why it was worse today. Could it be my form or just that my wrists are weak and I need to work on them?
  • suelegal
    suelegal Posts: 1,282 Member
    Thanks for the welcomes everyone, I feel like the prodigal sister!

    You all have such great stuff going on! JamaicanLady how totally cool! My hubby is very supportive and listens when I talk about what I'm doing so I know how great that feels!!

    Beeps have fun!! I'd be spilling too tho!

    Like Beeps, I did HIIT on different days than my lifting. I actually did a 45 min spin class on Tues and Thurs. That class has been cancelled, I hope temporarily! We'll see what happens.

    I have been going through a bout of insomnia - waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to get back to sleep. I sleep so poorly anymore and quite frankly, I just can't function well. I've opted to grab the extra sleep, but I'm planning to get to the gym tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed that I get better sleep tonight!

    My food has been much better these past few days and I'm logging better too so I'm getting back to a happier me! And Beeps as you know, I'm a low carber from way back - I feel so much better when I'm not eating breads, pastas or potatos.
  • 1LadyKate
    1LadyKate Posts: 78 Member
    beeps-what do you do instead of squats? I too have long legs and short torso.


    I was able to do the entire 1.A workout without mods. :bigsmile: and I used the "big girl bar" for my squats.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    I did complete my work-out at lunch. I am super-tired....not gonna lie. And I am super-hungry.

    :sad:

    But, I am totally anti-food and so I am drinking crazy amounts of water and praying bedtime arrives super-soon!!

    My white dress arrived today! (Thank goodness!) So, diner en blanc is *on* for tomorrow....I will take this evening to beautify myself....my toes, for sure. And also my hair (which has to last not only through the workday tomorrow, but also through the actual evening event!)

    No walk tonight....it is super-hazy and super-smoky out (from forest fires 1 province away!)....terrible for my asthma.

    Tomorrow no work-out....but, I will snap some pictures from diner en blanc and you'll be SO happy to see THOSE!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    Kate8610- on the advice of Brett C. ("the glute guy"), I sub in weighted hip thrusts, weighted glute bridges and single leg back extensions (on a rotational basis) whenever I encounter "squats" in my work-outs.

    I do more hip thrusting than anything...in fact, I totally forgot about back extensions (cause they moved the machine....), but did do those Monday and tuesday of this week.

    If squats work your glutes - KEEP 'em and keep doing 'em! for me, they don't hit my (lazy) glutes at all - it's all quad work...and I do NOT need bigger quads. I totally need bigger glutes (I must say, I don't really worry about pancake butt anymore....)
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    sue - I am deep into day 3 of NO carbs, NO sugar. And, today is headaches, queasiness, lethargy AND HANGER.

    Blech.

    But, 2 more days, and I'll be whistling dixie!! No more cravings and I expect all my belly bloat will be gone.

    I plan on not introducing any carbs until AT LEAST August 10....at least. If my plan works well, maybe I will just stick to it!!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member
    DouMc - have you made sure that your wrists are exactly in the right position for front squats???!? I find that front-squatting is sooooooooooo very particular for placement of hands, placement of bar on body-front, elbows WAY held high, etc. So particular. Make sure you have good form....seriously - make sure someone is watching you do it (that knows what they are doing) and can help you with form. My guess is this is a "form" issue.

    Be VERY careful with wrists!!!! If it was just forearm pain, I'd think you were just needing to strengthen forearms....but wrist pain?!?!? Totally different story!
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,150 Member

    I was short on time last night so I did my 45 minute routine in 30. Not sure how it actually happened. Warm up was less than 5 minutes, no cooldown, and not resting or stopping.

    Holymoly. THAT'S BOSS!

    BOOM!
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member

    Jo, so you squatted more than your body weight? That's amazing! My squats are my worst lift.

    Yep, sure did. I'm about 119lbs at the moment, squatted 138 :-) Would be totally cool to squat 1.5 x bodyweight but that's a hell of a way off. Only just managed to get above 60kg which I reached last year. Then totally backed off squats and almost had to start again :sad:

    My squats and DLs are my heaviest lifts and tend to match each other. I am a little behind on my DLs as my back felt a bit squiffy the last few times so didn't push it and focused on form. I also struggle with the bigger weights and form on the squats as I have to focus so much on engaging my core..... I can't get so low either, not because my legs can't do it but because I'll tip backwards off balance. So the heavier weights I don't get so much range of motion, but I certainly feel them working my glutes, so I'm happy. I will never be able to achieve the *kitten* to grass squat! I'm also favour the wide leg stance, I seem to balance better. But we are all different!

    So much chat on here since yesterday! Great workouts ladies.

    Front squats? My enemy. I don't need them in my life right now, lol. But I can understand the wrist issue. My wrists are weak too - sorry I don't know how to improve them!

    Beeps enjoy your dinner.

    Lifting for me today.... then working on my resume again..... out of enthusiasm for all that crap....
  • Pmagnanifit
    Pmagnanifit Posts: 665 Member
    Dou I had wrist pain too when I increased my front squats too fast. I tried a different grip where your wrists are crossed. You might have to google front squat variations because I can't describe it well. In the end I deloaded a lot like thirty pounds and worked on form. I still use the regular technique now
  • Pmagnanifit
    Pmagnanifit Posts: 665 Member
    Jamaica- nice attitude keep your focus for the week

    Beeps your focus is on too- hope the dinner is fun

    Marieann- try not to stress the wait I hope it will all be reassuring

    Jo nice squat. Have you tried stretching right before the squat?? I saw someone with a fifteen minute warmup for the squat and he squatted like three hundred. So now I repeat a few stretches (just before the biggest exercise of the day cause I don't have four hours to spend at the gym) and my mobility is better.

    I am skipping one workout this week. The colonoscopy really wore me out. It was normal. My pt has a new treatment for me which involves using electric current through muscle. I have a unit to try at home. Maybe it will be "the cure"

    Marieann was it hard for you to do whole 30? Preparation shopping etc
  • DouMc
    DouMc Posts: 1,689 Member
    DouMc - have you made sure that your wrists are exactly in the right position for front squats???!? I find that front-squatting is sooooooooooo very particular for placement of hands, placement of bar on body-front, elbows WAY held high, etc. So particular. Make sure you have good form....seriously - make sure someone is watching you do it (that knows what they are doing) and can help you with form. My guess is this is a "form" issue.

    Be VERY careful with wrists!!!! If it was just forearm pain, I'd think you were just needing to strengthen forearms....but wrist pain?!?!? Totally different story!

    Thanks Beeps. I reread the description in the book and I think the problem is that I am not pushing my elbows out enough so the bar is resting entirely on my fingers and my shoulders aren't taking any of the weight. I will practice just holding the bar correctly and see if i can get the form right.
  • dnamouse
    dnamouse Posts: 612 Member
    DouMc, when I first did the front squats it was really hard to get the right position. I did a lot of sessions with just the bar to try and get it right - doesn't help that it's a normal sized bar and my hands, fingers and arms are tiny and short lol

    If you use a squat rack, walk up to it like normal and put your hands into position. Notice where your arms, elbows & shoulders are and adjust until they are correct. Once you get it, you'll wonder what took you so long lol but it really is a bit fiddly to get right.
    I was short on time last night so I did my 45 minute routine in 30. Not sure how it actually happened. Warm up was less than 5 minutes, no cooldown, and not resting or stopping.

    I may have taken this as a challenge.... :wink:
    I did my 5A workout this morning (inc warmup, BWM & cool down) in 51 minutes :bigsmile:
    My legs feel like like they may die and my arms are jellified, but it was good fun :laugh:


    I have discovered something. I need to work out every day. Not necessarily for ages, but at least a 15 minute HIIT or something. Otherwise my brain is pretty much liquified. Yesterday I took as a rest day (and did have to run errands with the kids), and I struggled to get through the day.
    I've also been forcing myself to eat breakfast a couple of days a week, and I've found I ALWAYS go over - I literally have the munchies all day, even with a high protein & fibre breakfast. Not good while the kids are home and there are packets of yummy snacks all over the house.

    Weekends don't count as I'm always doing something - running around to kid's sports, organising things, doing yard work etc, so they are all okay. It's just those 1-2 rest days during the week. They get seriously rough.

    So I'm thinking I'll just go back to eating how I feel again (ie, no breakfast during the week unless I am actually hungry), and save the breakfasts for the weekends when it's usually everyone together as a family with a big cook up of bacon & eggs & coffee and sometimes pancakes :drinker:

    I just really seem to hate eating in the morning. And I'll smash out some form of quick exercise on my 'rest' days. Give that a go for a few weeks and see how I feel then :smile:
  • bepeejaye
    bepeejaye Posts: 775 Member
    It has rained and rained - am in heaven!!

    So I did not go out to the gym. I worked with my Bowflex machine, then on the elliptical...
  • Pmagnanifit
    Pmagnanifit Posts: 665 Member
    Beepejaye you seem to really like the rain

    I went to a movie with my kids and drank an icee- it was a thousand calories.
    Anyone else eat/drink something and then get shocked by how calorie dense it is??
  • DouMc
    DouMc Posts: 1,689 Member
    1000 calories? Ouch! I hope it was worth it!

    Thanks for all the advice on the front squats. I will work on my form and make sure I am holding the bar correctly. yesterday I gave up on them and just did back squats because I was afraid of hurting myself.
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member
    I went to a movie with my kids and drank an icee- it was a thousand calories.
    Anyone else eat/drink something and then get shocked by how calorie dense it is??

    Far out! This is why generally no, I wouldn't eat something without knowing what it was. This is also because I'm celiac so can't eat without knowing ingredients!! I did make the mistake of eating a GF slice of choc orange cake at McDonalds though..... thankfully I only ate 1/3 as when I logged it one slice was almost 900 cals! Madness!

    I do stretch before squats - and warm up with lighter weights than my 'working' lifts. No where near 300 though! Jeez, who has time for that?!

    I upped my DLs to 132lbs today - hurrah. Matched my PB from NROL4W. Only 6 reps but felt ok. Finally felt my legs engage! Really need to watch my form with these now, really notice the difference once you go past bodyweight. Anyone else have that?
  • DouMc
    DouMc Posts: 1,689 Member
    I went to a movie with my kids and drank an icee- it was a thousand calories.
    Anyone else eat/drink something and then get shocked by how calorie dense it is??

    Far out! This is why generally no, I wouldn't eat something without knowing what it was. This is also because I'm celiac so can't eat without knowing ingredients!! I did make the mistake of eating a GF slice of choc orange cake at McDonalds though..... thankfully I only ate 1/3 as when I logged it one slice was almost 900 cals! Madness!

    I do stretch before squats - and warm up with lighter weights than my 'working' lifts. No where near 300 though! Jeez, who has time for that?!

    I upped my DLs to 132lbs today - hurrah. Matched my PB from NROL4W. Only 6 reps but felt ok. Finally felt my legs engage! Really need to watch my form with these now, really notice the difference once you go past bodyweight. Anyone else have that?

    I also hit 132 on my deadlifts on Monday. it felt awesome! I'm not quite at body weight yet but should get there in the next week or so. I freakin love deadlifts! I just feel so badass lifting that much. And progress on them is so quick considering that I started 3 months ago with just the bar. I still find my form is ok but maybe i'll have to pay more attention to it once I get to bodyweight and beyond.