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One more thing: I am a severe asthmatic. So, one of the reasons I have steadily focused on cardio is because, for me, my cardio health is KEY to my long-term lifelong survival.
It's not a joke - I *do* need cardio!!!
I also rely on cardio to: de-stress, sleep better, etc., etc.
It is why, despite my best efforts, my Saturday long-cardio routine remains intact.
I'll always try to keep 1 x weekly cardio. And, yes, I missed the Tues/Th/Sun cardio I was doing for several years, too.....we'll see how my (continuing) experiment turns out!0 -
It is a generated workout based on goals, like today was shoulders. I did the workout but then did extra from muffintopless website, now I feel like I did something!0
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Are you ladies doing any HIIT cardio on your non-lifting days? I have to admit..I TRY to be consistent with going on the off days, but sometimes I just dismiss it altogether. Haha. And this is coming from a former cardio junkie!
Yes, I do. But like Beeps said, it really makes me hungry. I didn't like cardio when I first started, so I had no problems just doing the lifting 3X week. However, we've recently moved and I'll do intervals or steady on our little country road and it is sooo relaxing. That being said, I haven't lost any quicker (maybe even slower) than just doing lifting. However, there are several women who are doing NROL4W and training for marathons/half-marathons as well. Just depends what your fitness goals are, I suppose.
LB2LL, congrats on the DL! That is some serious lifting!
I am 6/7 for the Streak Challenge. Really happy about his. I did take measurements and I am down another 1/2" everywhere. This includes my STUBBORN thighs that are the very last to go. AND this is even with them being sore from Monday's workout.
I've lost nearly 2" from each thigh since beginning NROL4W! Fitting my thighs into sz medium pants is something I haven't done since I lost weight after having my second child and was 10LBS LIGHTER.0 -
I ABSOLUTELY do cardio along with NR! I have posted about this before, but I am a long distance runner (no, not a marathoner, but a half-marathoner) so I incorporate running in with my lifting. It USUALLY looks like this:
M: lift, 3 miles of treadmill intervals
T: elliptical
W: lift, row machine intervals
Th: off day
F: lift, 3 miles of treadmill intervals
S: long run (6-13 miles depending on where I am in my training)
Sun: elliptical
on days I don't lift I have to do cardio to: help my DOMS and sleep! no exercise = no sleep for me.0 -
HI all
Thanks for all the tips - I watched loads of youtube before doing my (light) DL today and it really helped. :drinker:
Everyone's doing so well - it's great encouragement :-D
And I'd just like to say that I hate Lunges - hate hate hate, and I had to do BW ones, and they were soooooooo hard.
HATE HATE HATE. :mad:
But I think other than that I could really like this lifting lark. Off to stretch some more - then a nice walk to the pub - that will help with my DOMS :laugh:0 -
Also, I do cardio since I"m still doing some road races this year so I do need to run. Also, for me it's not about the scale and losing weight. I'm happy with where I am (for once) so for me this is more of a maintenance/doing what I enjoy type of dealio.0
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I do cardio on my off days, and I always run for 10 minutes right before I lift. Helps warm my body and get my heart pumping. I am still running road races and will be running in a 5k next month, so I have to keep it up. I have noticed that the NR is really helping me with my speed and strength in my legs.0
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Are you ladies doing any HIIT cardio on your non-lifting days? I have to admit..I TRY to be consistent with going on the off days, but sometimes I just dismiss it altogether. Haha. And this is coming from a former cardio junkie!
YES!!
The first time around I didn't add cardio. (well, some but not enough to make a difference. ) I became stronger but I didn't lose fat. This time around , I am focusing on form, fat loss, and strength.
If you are looking to lose fat, I highly recommend adding cardio or it's possible you won't see the results you want.
I have a goal of fat loss/measurement loss. I am about to do workout B6, so I have read ahead to stage two, and I was thinking maybe I should start doing interval cardio at least two times a week (to take advantage of my gym membership, and to keep me out of the cupboards after work - my danger time). I think I will start with some HIIT cardio as of next week (Tues and Thurs/Sat or Sun) and see how I go. I do like to mountain bike for fun as well, but need to get out on the bike a bit more before summer ends (I am in the Southern Hemisphere) - daylight savings is on April the 7th this year (I think).
I do really need to clean up my diet though. I have been reading the Eat More 2 Weigh Less forum and am thinking I might need to eat more to see a loss in the long run. I had eaten a low cal diet (approx 1000cal per day) for about 6 months and saw fantastic results, but encountered some massive stress and dived into the sugar and fat and piled on a whole lot in the next six months - since then I have been eating at about 1200-1400cal, but I think I might need to up it to about 1700 or even 1900.....ah so confused and worried about gaining. Anyone on here doing the Eat More thing with New Rules?
I will be having my one month weigh in and measurements next Monday, and I am terrified that I won't be seeing any of the results I want, although I have made strength gains.... please excuse my vent.0 -
FEBRUARY STREAK CHALLENGE:
Beeps2011 daily work-outs
samntha14 <daily cals + daily work-outs
suelegal daily work-outs
manic4titans <daily cals of 1400
LB2LL daily work-outs
emgel stick to slow carb diet
jenniet04 daily work-outs
chubbycowgirl NO weighing on scale
mcbellnz 1-per-week cheat meals ONLY
sara4159 <1,800 calories per day
katwhelton daily macros
gadenni daily protein of 110g
tennesseeleig 4 work-outs per week (3 weights)
blacknivory 3 NROL4W work-outs per week
lcuconley daily work-outs
Alright, ladies, its time to give me your WEEK 1 RESULTS.
Right. I am not too sure how to report mine. I had a beer last Sat and one on last Sunday at the car racing, so I am counting that as a cheat meal. I was meant to have my cheat meal tonight but I shall forgo it due to my previous actions.
Can I count that as a 5 out of 7? Or should it really be 0 since I didn't really only have one cheat meal in the week?0 -
since then I have been eating at about 1200-1400cal, but I think I might need to up it to about 1700 or even 1900.....ah so confused and worried about gaining. Anyone on here doing the Eat More thing with New Rules?
Yes. I was eating at TDEE - 10%. I just started lifting this week and upped my calories a bit more because I was starving and per the NROL4W book recommendation.0 -
mcbellnz - I think you will find a lot of people on this forum "eat more to weigh less" just because they take in the right number of calories. You should calculate your TDEE - 20% (try the scooby calculator, that is pretty accurate). I am only 5 feet and I eat between 1800 and 2000 calories a day my TDEE is between 2300 and 2500 (although it gets close to 3000 on the weekends). You also need to fuel your body with enough calories to see strength gains.
I just can't imagine 1400 calories is enough on a lifting program like New Rules.0 -
since then I have been eating at about 1200-1400cal, but I think I might need to up it to about 1700 or even 1900.....ah so confused and worried about gaining. Anyone on here doing the Eat More thing with New Rules?
Yes. I was eating at TDEE - 10%. I just started lifting this week and upped my calories a bit more because I was starving and per the NROL4W book recommendation.
Do you mind if I ask if you have much fat to lose? I weigh about 148lb (67kg) and have a scary body fat percentage of 34% - so I have lots to lose - aiming for below 24% body fat - even got down to that when I lost weight the low cal way - but I was only 115lb (about 52kg) - oh how I wish I was there and starting New Rules....anyway, according to my crude calculations even though I have gained 15kg, only 10kg of that extra weight is flabby extra fat!!!0 -
FEBRUARY STREAK CHALLENGE:
Beeps2011 daily work-outs
samntha14 <daily cals + daily work-outs
suelegal daily work-outs
manic4titans <daily cals of 1400
LB2LL daily work-outs
emgel stick to slow carb diet
jenniet04 daily work-outs
chubbycowgirl NO weighing on scale
mcbellnz 1-per-week cheat meals ONLY
sara4159 <1,800 calories per day
katwhelton daily macros
gadenni daily protein of 110g
tennesseeleig 4 work-outs per week (3 weights)
blacknivory 3 NROL4W work-outs per week
lcuconley daily work-outs
Alright, ladies, its time to give me your WEEK 1 RESULTS.
I am 6 for 6...will be 7 for 7 after my soccer game tonight!! Sounds like a lot of us are doing pretty well this week!
mcbellenz, I would give myself a 6/7 if my only cheat was 2 beers...0 -
Are you ladies doing any HIIT cardio on your non-lifting days? I have to admit..I TRY to be consistent with going on the off days, but sometimes I just dismiss it altogether. Haha. And this is coming from a former cardio junkie!
I do spin to make sure I am getting some interval training in. Soccer is kind of interval training, too...I want to be "fit" in many different ways, so i also do "long slow cardio" by running. I am having a hard time fitting in my yoga, though...0 -
LBLL2 - tell me more about what you did on your "interval sprint" day...I need to start something like that to prep for outdoor soccer season!0
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Here is the sprint workout I do when I'm stuck on the treadmill. I can't just run an even pace on the DREADmill otherwise I get incredibly bored. I have a hills workout but I'm not remembering the timing to write it. I can post it later if you want. It's killer.
Sprint:
0-5 min: "warm up" - between 6.0-6.5 setting
5-7 min: increase to at least 7-7.5 setting
7-8:30min: increase to at least 8.0-8.5 setting
8:30 - 10min: 8.5-9.0 setting depending on how you feel and where you were at previously
10-15: recovery (generally I will run at about 6.5 for 2.5min and then increase it for another 2.5 before speeding up)
I generally do this for 3 miles but have done 5 on a day I was feeling energetic lol. If you have an even mile goal, say, 3 mile goal and use the speeds I suggested usually your second set of sprints will end right around 2.3-2.4 miles. I generally do a 7.0 speed recovery for about 0.3 mile and then ramp it up again finishing off with a speed of 10 for 0.2 miles.
Also, the speed is completely up to you. I never originally thought "Hey sprinting at a 10 sounds great." I worked up to that point (and no it's not great, borderline vomit inducing). The main point of this is to be switching up speeds and pushing yourself.0 -
since then I have been eating at about 1200-1400cal, but I think I might need to up it to about 1700 or even 1900.....ah so confused and worried about gaining. Anyone on here doing the Eat More thing with New Rules?
Yes. I was eating at TDEE - 10%. I just started lifting this week and upped my calories a bit more because I was starving and per the NROL4W book recommendation.
Do you mind if I ask if you have much fat to lose? I weigh about 148lb (67kg) and have a scary body fat percentage of 34% - so I have lots to lose - aiming for below 24% body fat - even got down to that when I lost weight the low cal way - but I was only 115lb (about 52kg) - oh how I wish I was there and starting New Rules....anyway, according to my crude calculations even though I have gained 15kg, only 10kg of that extra weight is flabby extra fat!!!
mcbellnz - I'm at about 27.5% body fat, by the Covert Bailey calculation anyway. And I'm aiming for anything below 25%. But I'm nearly 50 and 5'6" so at my goal weight, my body fat is projected to be about 24 point something. I weighed 152 on Sunday prior to beginning lifting and I'm going to try not to weigh for a month because I don't want to freak out, I'd rather lose an inch first before finding out that maybe I gained. Really, the scale is not the biggest thing for me now, I could live with myself if I stayed this weight but decreased body fat % (I keep repeating that to myself, it is a funny battle in the mind about that scale).
So, before lifting, I was eating 1750 cals and losing at a slow rate. Now I am shooting for 1800-2000, TDEE estimated at 2100. I'm allowing myself to eat up to maintenance if I am that hungry. But this may settle out a little bit as I get used to lifting, maybe. I'm just going to see how it goes initially and adjust if necessary.0 -
mcbellnz - I think you will find a lot of people on this forum "eat more to weigh less" just because they take in the right number of calories. You should calculate your TDEE - 20% (try the scooby calculator, that is pretty accurate). I am only 5 feet and I eat between 1800 and 2000 calories a day my TDEE is between 2300 and 2500 (although it gets close to 3000 on the weekends). You also need to fuel your body with enough calories to see strength gains.
I just can't imagine 1400 calories is enough on a lifting program like New Rules.
I am 5ft 3 (161cm) and if I imput the scooby calculator with moderate exercise (for New Rules) and a -20% cut, it tells me my TDEE is 2228 and 20% cut would be 1782. I have recently changed my mfp goals to 1700cal per day (which tells me I will lose 0.0lb per week - lol) and have set my macros to 15% carb, 45% protein, 40% fat .....but really, I have no idea what I am doing. I do eat a few more carbs on lifting days (in the form of fruit), but if I get too heavy into the sugar and baked goods/chippies I can just not stop, so it is best not to start.
ETA: My body fat is done by calipers by my personal trainer - not sure how accurate that is, but it is a benchmark anyways.0 -
I am 6 for 6...will be 7 for 7 after my soccer game tonight!! Sounds like a lot of us are doing pretty well this week!
mcbellenz, I would give myself a 6/7 if my only cheat was 2 beers...
Nah, I gotta be harsh otherwise I will never toe the line. The two beers occurred on two seperate days. I shoulda just had two beers on one day
). It was wonderful though, having a cold cold beer at lunchtime on a hot hot day (30 deg C, both days). 0 -
The NROL4W formula is pretty much the same as EM2WL. The concept of EM2WL is more individual. I lose easily when I STICK with a 20% cut. For me it is 1800-2100 cals/day. I second that Scooby's calculator is very accurate. It is very close to what my BodyMedia gives me. 1400 cals would just make me feel tired and weak. The problem with upping cals is that you might see an increase in scale weight in the beginning and get discouraged. Just stick with it, lift, and reassess after a while. I'm reading stories of women who take 6 weeks or more to start losing again after upping their calories.0
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ETA: My body fat is done by calipers by my personal trainer - not sure how accurate that is, but it is a benchmark anyways.
Calipers done correctly is supposed to be more accurate than the tape measure, but I use my estimate as a benchmark as well.0 -
The NROL4W formula is pretty much the same as EM2WL. The concept of EM2WL is more individual. I lose easily when I STICK with a 20% cut. For me it is 1800-2100 cals/day. I second that Scooby's calculator is very accurate. It is very close to what my BodyMedia gives me. 1400 cals would just make me feel tired and weak. The problem with upping cals is that you might see an increase in scale weight in the beginning and get discouraged. Just stick with it, lift, and reassess after a while. I'm reading stories of women who take 6 weeks or more to start losing again after upping their calories.
Eeek six weeks till you start losing - although it has been eeek 4 months of gaining and eeek 2 months of maintaining this excess fat, so really, do I have anything to lose by giving it a go - I think not.
I shall aim for 1700 cal from today (focussing on whole foods except for my protein shake), hopefully I will not podge out before my measure on Monday, and then if I can continue New Rules, while eating TDEE-20% for a month before my next measurements, hopefully I will see some results! Must be much more vigilant about tracking my cals - I have been on a staycation for the past 6 days, so have been a bit slack.
Cool to hear the EM2WL is similar to the book - which also tells me to eat (for fat loss) 1617cal on nonworkout days, and 1872 on workout days - so 1700 per day should be about right - although I must remember that I seem to get hungrier the day after lifting, rather than on the day itself.
Sounds like a plan to me!0 -
One more thing: I am a severe asthmatic. So, one of the reasons I have steadily focused on cardio is because, for me, my cardio health is KEY to my long-term lifelong survival.
I read this and immediately thought "for the zombie apocalypse".0 -
Yeah....for the zombie apocalypse, lol!!0
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I am 6/7. Total fail yesterday due to my husband's emergency. I am going to scarce for a little while at least as far as posting here. He woke up yesterday and couldn't take a deep breath without pain and coughing. Had heavy pressure in his chest. I told him I wasn't leaving for work until it was gone and he agreed (that scared the crap out of me - he usually poo poos my worry). About 15 min later he told me to call the ambulance and our little house was invaded by all this firemen and policemen and paramedics. They started oxygen and he immediately felt better. His EKG was odd but not heart attack odd. So whoosh off he went to the ER, where he had a chest XRay and CT scan and about an hour later a pulmonary surgeon came in and said you have a collapsed lung, I'm going to put a chest tube in to drain off the air. I left, once he inserted the tube Mike's lung inflated and began working just fine. So.. the reason it deflated is because Mike has bullous emphysema (we found out that out yesterday) and this cyst-like thing has encroached the bottom 1/3 of his right lung and he needs big surgery to remove it.
ACK!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
So I am camped out in his hospital room trying to work and not worry and be supportive. He's doing well, the tube is uncomfortable but the swelling has gone down and the pain is subsiding. He's doing these exercises to increase his lung strength. The leak has to stop before they will do the surgery, if possible.
This morning I want to the gym and lifted. I really needed it - I took out my frustrations and tension on those weights, bumped it all up, did extra reps and wore my butt out and I ache now but it feels good to ache.
I'll be back sometime tomorrow.0 -
rachie - you'll love Stage 2. I PROMISE.
Beeps don't lie to the girl! :laugh:
Seriously, I hated Stage 2 because of all the fussy single leg split leg stuff but it works and I'm stronger for it. And now here I am at Stage 4 and repeating all those fussy single leg split leg things and I'm stronger still.
You'll love to hate it rachie!0 -
Beeps - thanks for the info about the step ups!
Today was cardio for me... weights tomorrow before work. Working 3 day weekend again
But will hopefully just do some of my quick little yoga routine at home saturday & sunday then weights again monday.
I worked out every day this week - super proud of that!!! And you know what my reward was? I gained 5 pounds!!! WTF?!? Been eating very good this week... perhaps I will have to start being strict and logging again - I just really am afraid to become obsessive about it again and cut my intake too low like I did before.
Anyways... love the motivation I get reading the boards!!!0 -
Ok, so things aren't looking so great for hitting my calorie goal today - have had my breakfast, lunch and pre workout snack (small apple and protein shake made with water - I don't really consume milk) and have only hit 823 cals so far.... I do have a cooked chicken drumstick waiting for me at home for after my workout, and I have a protein bar I could chow down to get that protein up....or I could make another shake.
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hit my goal today !! whew!! 25 cals to spare. It would have been less but hubby knows I love spinach artichoke dip and ordered it for an appetizer.
Sue, I liked stage 2. I reserve to take that back this time around :bigsmile: 2nd time around I might throw a hissy fit in the gym.0 -
this was me last year. I was 160 at 34% BF. I'm now 142 at 24% BF. I started at 1400 cals in stage one and by the end was eating at or above maintenance, between 1850 and 2300 cals daily. I haven't lifted in a number of weeks and I'm only hungry for about 1600-1900 with regular cardio sessions. I'm just not as hungry without the lifting. Also, my scale weight hasn't changed in months, but I 'keep loosing pant sizes ( I carried all of my fat in my legs so it's where the drop in BF is most noticeable, and I swear my feet are smaller lol. Don't be afraid to fuel your body. You need itsince then I have been eating at about 1200-1400cal, but I think I might need to up it to about 1700 or even 1900.....ah so confused and worried about gaining. Anyone on here doing the Eat More thing with New Rules?
Yes. I was eating at TDEE - 10%. I just started lifting this week and upped my calories a bit more because I was starving and per the NROL4W book recommendation.
Do you mind if I ask if you have much fat to lose? I weigh about 148lb (67kg) and have a scary body fat percentage of 34% - so I have lots to lose - aiming for below 24% body fat - even got down to that when I lost weight the low cal way - but I was only 115lb (about 52kg) - oh how I wish I was there and starting New Rules....anyway, according to my crude calculations even though I have gained 15kg, only 10kg of that extra weight is flabby extra fat!!!
Streak challenge. Calories 7/7 and workouts goal reached.0
