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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,160 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/








  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/








    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/ not exactly impressive but not a placebo either. Seems to work like Tribulus and Yohibie in that it works only with those with low sperm count and testosterone but is extremely expensive relative to more far more effective pharmaceuticals such as chromed and Novadex.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,160 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,160 Member
    edited October 2016
    usmcmp wrote: »
    Can we get back on track with talking about recomposition rather than steroids and testosterone please. It might be a good time to start a new thread on ashwagandha.

    @usmcmp that sounds good. Since ashwagandha is used by some for building muscles and losing fat at the same time without the use of steroids where do you suggest to start a new thread about increasing athletic performance without the use of steroids or a current thread that might be applicable?

  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
    usmcmp wrote: »
    Can we get back on track with talking about recomposition rather than steroids and testosterone please. It might be a good time to start a new thread on ashwagandha.

    @usmcmp that sounds good. Since ashwagandha is used by some for building muscles and losing fat at the same time without the use of steroids where do you suggest to start a new thread about increasing athletic performance without the use of steroids or a current thread that might be applicable?

    Debate section might be a good place to discuss supplementation.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    Actually, lean body mass (LBM) is NOT aka muscle.

    It's merely everything that is not fat mass (FM).

    Doesn't mean the body doesn't burn more calories handling increased water weight (increased blood volume, interstitial water, water attached to glucose in muscles, ect) - but it also is a far cry from saying increased muscle.

    Start a cardio program in the summer you can increase 4-6 lbs water weight during a normal study period merely from increases in needed water volume.

    And that's why recomp isn't even totally about gaining muscle and losing fat.
    Gaining LBM of any sort usually improves metabolism slightly, and while doing it fat can drop slower.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

    Regulated? That's an odd word to use in the suppliment world; do you mean standardized?
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

    Regulated? That's an odd word to use in the suppliment world; do you mean standardized?

    Unregulated supplements could have other substances added to them.
  • Sloth2016
    Sloth2016 Posts: 846 Member
    edited October 2016
    DebSozo wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

    Regulated? That's an odd word to use in the suppliment world; do you mean standardized?

    Unregulated supplements could have other substances added to them.

    In the United States for example, the FDA is responsible for regulatory compliance of both dietary supplements as well as food and drugs. The legal regimes applied to these two categories differ. For the first, the FDA investigates and takes action against any supplement found to be mislabelled or adulterated in the market place. For food and drugs, the FDA conducts inspections of manufacturing facilities to insure that mislabelled or adulterated products do not reach the market place. Additionally, in order to be marketed as a drug or with a qualified health claim, e.g., "cures XYZ" the manufacturer must secure FDA approval by demonstrating with evidence from clinical trials that the substance does indeed effect XYZ in a statistically significant population. You can read more about this here: http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited October 2016
    DebSozo wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

    Regulated? That's an odd word to use in the suppliment world; do you mean standardized?

    Unregulated supplements could have other substances added to them.

    They often do; have you seen the tests results when journalists send them to labs? It's rather scary and there is virtually no regulation or oversight on suppliments unless they make medical claims. The industy has too many congressmen in their pockets.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,160 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    griffinca2 wrote: »
    And as a note: most women don't get big--there are a few exceptions. If women do get big they are either eating lots of protein and/or taking something. Benjammmin is correct; weight training will help you reach your strength and aesthetic goals and increase your metabolism.

    Generally if women are getting big, it's not due to protein, but rather anabolic steroids. They just don't have the ability to get big with such low levels of testosterone. Even with men, it would take years of training and bulking to get real big.

    So perhaps this is why some use ashwagandha to help develop more muscle mass and cut fat at the same time? I take it for arthritis mentioned below because it about took out the rest of my pain that cutting out sugar and all grains did not completely address.

    https://steroidal.com/steroids-news/ashwagandha-root-increases-testosterone-40/

    https://anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

    This happens to be the brand I now use. KSM-66 extract is all I plan to use going forward but it is sold under many different brands. The first that I got was from Organic India which is just ground root but I found on one body builder site they preferred the KSM-66 standardized extract over just ground root. I found the same thing to be true in my experience. Must of my muscle had atrophied way over the past 40 years as I moved less and less due to joint and muscle pain but is now redeveloping without a work out plan because I am moving more and eating better on LCHF since I eat very little highly processed food any more.

    https://drtami.com/the-untold-testosterone-story-for-women/

    This doctor seems to think ashwagandha can raise testosterone in women which was news to me because I have read it can't.

    sensible-alternative.com.au/female-hormones/10-best-herbs-for-women

    #6 in the above article talks about how ashwagandha may help women but it does not mention testosterone.

    http://www.garmaonhealth.com/more-muscle-testosterone-calm-with-ashwagandha/

    "As reported by ergo-log.com, researchers at the ICMR Advanced Centre for Reverse Pharmacology in Traditional Medicine discovered that participants in the study (12 men and six women, aged 18 thru 30) averaged an increase in lean body mass (aka, muscle) of a bit less than 4.4 pounds, and their fat composition decreased by more than two percent."

    These six women above I gather added muscle and cut fat in this 60 day study using ashwagandha in this trial. Dosage details are in the article.

    everydayhealth.com/low-testosterone/guide/women/

    It talks about the organs use to make testosterone in their bodies. I still am not sure how ashwagandha works in women but the links below cover that subject.

    https://zliving.com/wellness/natural-remedies/6-amazing-ways-in-which-ashwagandha-benefits-women

    globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-amazing-benefits-of-ashwagandha-root-for-women/

    If you actually have interest in the effects on test, get it from a reliable source, not blogs interpreting the data.

    https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/


    Either way, it's going to have a limited impact at best as it relates to this topics. There are far better dietary plans and supplements over something as unregulated as Ashwagandha.

    Thanks for the link and I joined the Ashwagandha discussion. I moved from the unregulated raw root version to the KSM-66 version of ashwagandha because its values are regulated.

    ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/why_ksm66.html

    Regulated? That's an odd word to use in the suppliment world; do you mean standardized?

    Philemon was the first to mention 'unregulated in this thread I think.

    As far as I know all supplements are 'unregulated' at