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I walk between 8000 to 10,000 steps a day and I am not sure what activity level to select?
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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    Light active
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,676 Member
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    Is that including deliberate exercise or just daily life?
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,659 Member
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    Arguably either lightly active or active. The 10K is definitely on the active side of things.

    That said you would NOT also include whatever activity gets you the 8-10K in your separately metered exercise activities.

    And you would monitory your trending weight over a period of 4-6 weeks and compare your results to what your logging predicts so that you can decide if your chosen activity level is reflecting reality based on your logging habits and personal makeup
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    aqwersd wrote: »
    I walk between 8000 to 10,000 steps a day and I am not sure what activity level to select?

    Is a daily activity tracker involved that is also syncing daily calorie burn to MFP?

    If yes - select Sedentary even though that is obviously not true - MFP will correct it's rough estimate with your tracker's likely better estimate.
  • aqwersd
    aqwersd Posts: 5 Member
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    Is that including deliberate exercise or just daily life?

    It’s just daily life
  • pkweier
    pkweier Posts: 349 Member
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    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,345 Member
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    Lightly active.
  • pkweier
    pkweier Posts: 349 Member
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    Lightly active.

    Thanks
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,659 Member
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    pkweier wrote: »
    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
    Lightly active.

    ?

    Daily activity of 10K to 13K (without the step based activity being explicitly added anywhere else) would best be described as somewhere between the top half of active and bottom half of very active using MFP's activity factor calculations.

    Whether that can be fully eaten or not depends on how close the person tracks to average values and the quality/effectiveness of their food logging.
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,345 Member
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    pkweier wrote: »
    Lightly active.

    Thanks

    I was answering the OP. Sorry. :blush:
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,345 Member
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    PAV8888 wrote: »
    pkweier wrote: »
    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
    Lightly active.

    ?

    Daily activity of 10K to 13K (without the step based activity being explicitly added anywhere else) would best be described as somewhere between the top half of active and bottom half of very active using MFP's activity factor calculations.

    Whether that can be fully eaten or not depends on how close the person tracks to average values and the quality/effectiveness of their food logging.

    Agreed 10 to 13k is active to very active. My previous reply of lightly active was not in regards to that question.
  • pkweier
    pkweier Posts: 349 Member
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    pkweier wrote: »
    Lightly active.

    Thanks

    I was answering the OP. Sorry. :blush:
    .

    Sorry
  • pkweier
    pkweier Posts: 349 Member
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    PAV8888 wrote: »
    pkweier wrote: »
    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
    Lightly active.

    ?

    Daily activity of 10K to 13K (without the step based activity being explicitly added anywhere else) would best be described as somewhere between the top half of active and bottom half of very active using MFP's activity factor calculations.

    Whether that can be fully eaten or not depends on how close the person tracks to average values and the quality/effectiveness of their food logging.

    Agreed 10 to 13k is active to very active. My previous reply of lightly active was not in regards to that question.

    Thanks
  • pkweier
    pkweier Posts: 349 Member
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    PAV8888 wrote: »
    pkweier wrote: »
    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
    Lightly active.

    ?

    Daily activity of 10K to 13K (without the step based activity being explicitly added anywhere else) would best be described as somewhere between the top half of active and bottom half of very active using MFP's activity factor calculations.

    Whether that can be fully eaten or not depends on how close the person tracks to average values and the quality/effectiveness of their food logging.
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    pkweier wrote: »
    I also have a question my steps between 10000-13000 are on top of my normal life activity. I have my setting on MFP the lowest due to most of my work day is sitting. I have my map my walk synced to MFP although I don't trust the calories it gives me. I have been thinking of changing my activity level to lightly active and NOT eat back the step calories. Trying to maintain at 140. Would this be a good idea
    Lightly active.

    ?

    Daily activity of 10K to 13K (without the step based activity being explicitly added anywhere else) would best be described as somewhere between the top half of active and bottom half of very active using MFP's activity factor calculations.

    Whether that can be fully eaten or not depends on how close the person tracks to average values and the quality/effectiveness of their food logging.

    Thanks
  • cheryldumais
    cheryldumais Posts: 1,907 Member
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    I chose sedentary and then I use the calories awarded to me for my steps. That worked for me.
  • shannonprovenzano2812
    shannonprovenzano2812 Posts: 60 Member
    edited January 2018
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    Wow I'm shocked by the replies. According to Livestrong, anything under 5000 is considered Sedentary. Anything between 5000 - 7499 is lightly active. Anything between 7500 - 10000 is moderately active, and anything over 10000 is considered very active. This makes sense to me as 10000 steps a day is 5 miles!

    Where did the other posters read otherwise out of curiosity?

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/171629-how-many-steps-per-day-to-lose-weight/
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,464 Member
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    I suggest you set to sedentary and sync your step tracker. MFP will make all the calorie adjustments needed. Or you can pick active and get no extra calories.
  • cheryldumais
    cheryldumais Posts: 1,907 Member
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    I generally get 8000 to 10,000 steps 6 days a week but since the rest of my day is sitting I just figured it made more sense to use the calories for my steps as I earn them. My weight loss in the first year averaged 1.4 pounds per week. That was at 1200 calories a day plus about half the step calories. I'm 61 years old tho. Now at my maintenance weight I get about 125 calories a day for my steps. It motivated me to move. I didn't read this anywhere I just felt it made sense not to count the calorie burn twice.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Wow I'm shocked by the replies. According to Livestrong, anything under 5000 is considered Sedentary. Anything between 5000 - 7499 is lightly active. Anything between 7500 - 10000 is moderately active, and anything over 10000 is considered very active. This makes sense to me as 10000 steps a day is 5 miles!

    Where did the other posters read otherwise out of curiosity?

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/171629-how-many-steps-per-day-to-lose-weight/

    Many don't realize they are talking apples and oranges.

    Be aware that rarely are external sites discussing activity levels using the same 4 levels as MFP which is one of the few that doesn't include exercise in them.

    Most external sites are talking about the 5 TDEE levels from the good old (1919) study by Harris of BMR fame.
    For instance - MFP has no Moderately Active level,

    MFP has a FAQ that touches on steps for their levels - when you use their app and enable steps to adjust calories.

    But even there - steps merely calculates out to a distance.
    It's the distance with time and mass that gives good calorie estimates.
    You could have 10K grocery store shuffle steps and not be above Lightly Active.
    You could have 7K hard running steps and be into Very Active.

    Most with activity trackers that sync to MFP discover positive calorie adjustments start getting added at 3-5K steps depending on distance - when set to Sedentary.

    Oh, and walking any steps on apples and oranges cuts the distance drastically.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,659 Member
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    You quotes livestrong, I quotes Pubmed :wink:
    (i). <5000 steps/day may be used as a 'sedentary lifestyle index';
    (ii). 5000-7499 steps/day is typical of daily activity excluding sports/exercise and might be considered 'low active';
    (iii). 7500-9999 likely includes some volitional activities (and/or elevated occupational activity demands) and might be considered 'somewhat active'; and
    (iv). >or=10000 steps/day indicates the point that should be used to classify individuals as 'active'.
    Individuals who take >12500 steps/day are likely to be classified as 'highly active'.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715035

    In either case, you will notice that we have FIVE (5) activity categories covering 0 to some nebulous amount above 12,500 in the case of Pubmed, and 0 to 10,000 in the case of your Livestrong article.

    MFP, however, has FOUR activity categories. And really, other than bragging rights, there is ZERO deep meaning to what each activity category is called. If humans were wired differently, MFP would call their activity levels: 1.25xBMR, 1.4xBMR, 1.6xBMR and 1.8xBMR, because that is all that the labels sedentary, lightly active, active and very active really translate to: the number of calories you're expected to burn if your activity level matches the label.

    0-4000 sedentary
    4000-8000 lightly active
    8000-12000 active
    12000-16000 very active
    add extra exercise activity when higher.

    Most people tend to actually spill over to the next higher category slightly earlier than at the top number indicated.
    The type of steps, how often they occur during the day, etc, all factor in.

    It *IS* easier to just connect a smart pedometer... especially since MFP by default actually expects you to log exercise activity separately. Smart pedometers take step variability and timing into better account and issue an adjustment to what MFP expects you to burn.